As for cheap x86 compatible chips, I don't see AMD or Cyrix (or Intel for that matter) playing in the enterprise,
Since you're a Compaq distributor, you may want to look inside some of their systems from time to time. Many of their "enterprise" systems are powered by Intel chips (which by default are x86 compatibles).
In fact, the overwhlming lion's share of compaq enterprise systems sold are x86 based.
The original author is totally free to choose a license.
If the author chooses the GPL, he is removing choice from the next level of users--they MUST redistribute the source.
But if he chooses BSD, he is removing choice from users two levels down. If the first tier of users didn't redist the source (since they don't have to), the second tier gets zilch.
I happen to think that forcing redistribution on the first tier is less onerous than removing source access to the second tier....and I think you do, too.
For instance, suppose MS used some BSD code in NT, but modified it a little so it didn't work quite how you wanted. Wouldn't you be a little frustrated that you (the 2nd tier user) couldn't modify the source to work correctly especially since you CAN modify the originals?
Wow...that's big. If Compaq gives up on the Alphas to concentrate on their core PC business, then it's just ceded a big chunk of the server market to Sun, IBM and the other mega-server makers.
So here's a question: is there any way Linux can take advantage of this possibility by touting Linux alternatives? I'm curious.
Now at most universities, that may be a relevant response. But what you fail to realize is that a Hack at MIT is not vandelism, nor is it dangerous. Why? Because it is carefully engineered. After all, what is MIT famous for, if not it's engineering skill? The hacking community at MIT is quite sizable, and they have established many guidelines on how to execute a safe and respectable hack. Also, a hack such as this was not the result of a last minute decision to go do something fun. It most likely involved weeks of preparation to get it JUST right. Think about it. If that hack weren't engineered to perfection, how could they have possibly scaled the dome, one of the most visible locations on campus, deployed a hack over the whole thing, and escaped, without being sighted by the campus police?
Why not use the Cartesian Burro-Friendly License? It works as a standalone license or in combination with other more headache-inducing licenses. See http://www.revoltingdevelopment.com/cbfl01.html for details.
I think that it can be a *GOOD* idea to put them near the porn. When I go to the local shows, or stores I always peer into the porn shelves to see what's nude er.. new. I say put a few copies of the distros there and see if they sell. If they do, keep it up, what does it hurt?
>>Hmmm.... at the MicroCenter in Santa Clara, CA, Linux is displayed quite prominently. Slackware and FreeBSD may be near the porn. However, they're not in boxes, anyway. RedHat and SuSE have been sold in MC for a long time....
At the Best Buy near where I work the boxes for Redhat 5.2, 6.0 and Caldera distros are the first thing that you walk into when you enter the store.
I just need to find 3 friends to go in on RedHat 6.0 with me.
I keep hearing how the BSD license is "more free". That's true, but misleading.
Would it be a good thing if I were free to deny you your First Amendment rights? No. My freedoms end where your freedoms begin.
I need to be forced into the small inconvenience of re-releasing my modifications to afford others the major freedom of seeing the source.
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It's not like Linux just takes the GNU tools and gives nothing back. Alot of the effort spent in expanding the current GNU utilities, and developing new GNU programs are due to peoples involvement in Linux.
BTW, when Linus started Linux, there were other free c compilers other than gcc, which was the main piece of GNU software Linus used at the beginning. The existence of the GNU tools sped up the development of Linux, but it still could have occurred without them. Heck, he could have used the BSD tools instead.
-buffy
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Posted by JoeyRamone:
Question is, would you be able to use Linux without all those wonderful toys GNU gives us ????
Personally I don't think so, but hey that's just me:-)...
Isnt Loki making a LinuxPPC version of Civ before the Macos version come out? If so, I bet they will be making PPC versions. And did you notice "ERIC'S ULTIMATE SOLITAIRE" will be ported! Myth2, Quake1, and Erics! Those are like the only 3 games I play on my mac. DROOL DROOL, now when R5 comes out I shall be even happier.
I for one am really dissapointed. Why more strategy titles? Wasn't Civ enough? I'd really prefer an action game for a change of pace (besides quake3 of course). Myth looks pretty fun, but it's been out for ages on my friend's Mac, so who really cares...and Railroad Tycoon? Couldn't they have switched gears and done a differenet type of game hsving completed Civ: CTP? I'm just puzzled as to why they would keep selecting games from the same genre over and over.
More commercial software is always a good thing with Linux. I don't subscribe to the RMS view of "ooh, it should -all- be free.", because it would take a hell of a lot of opensource effort to do a polished game - the artwork etc needs a great deal of effort and coordination.
I haven't looked at CivCTP for linux yet, but the bugs in the Windoze version were horrible (my flatmate gave up in disgust and returned the game), so hopefully those problems will have vanished (they seemed to be copy-protection related).
Anyway, much joy and happiness to the world - things can only get better.
Me and a freind were just talking about this book no more than an hour ago. We were joking about how a book called open sources should be open sourced. Weird!
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As a longtime FreeBSD user and bigot, I can proudly say that www.freebsd.org is an absolutely awesome resource the linux community would do well to copy outright.
Don't you think "sellout" is a little strong? I mean really, he never did (or is now, for that matter) design Star Wars to be the blockbuster that it's sure to be. Read an interview from four years ago. He never really wanted to make another Star Wars. Some may say that he's finally given up under the pressure and "sold out". But think about it.
Is it really seeling out to wait an entire decade, then make an entirly new movie with his own money?
>>Just how do they plan on prosecuting anyone for Spam when this company has not incurred any damages for the spam, the user or the owner of the original server did...
In the US, all you need to do is come up with a good slogan and you can win in court. I can see it now Johnnie Cochran in civil court against a spammer "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, If they sent you an e-mail and you didn't ask, they gotta pay cash. If YOU didn't ask, THEY gotta pay cash. One last time, if you didn't ask, they gotta pay cash. Thank you, no more your honor."
Good night Mr. Spammer. Not to mention the high ration of fraudulent spammers, and in the US telemarketers can be forced to pay civil penalties for calling you after you've told them to remove you from their list.
>>Please allow me to point out that the first wave of "Star Wars" collectable stuff did not show up until after the first movie had been out for a while. It was only after the studio realized they had a mega-mega hit on their hands that they started with the merchandising.
Ummm, not the studio it was George Lucas who was behind all of the merchandising of the series. That was a part of the deal he struck with the studio.
It was LUCAS. Not that I blame him or think that it's bad or anything, who wouldn't have done the exact same thing? But he's no shining example of the starving artist who cares only about his artistic vision making it onto the screen. Just like everybody else he wants to pay the bills and feed his kids.
I was but a young lad when Star Wars first came out, but if I remember correctly, there were juice glasses, action figures and fast-food tie-ins before Empire even came out. Lucas sold out to marketing a long time ago.
However, he didn't sell out to Hollywood, a distinction that I think is missed here. He retained creative control and didn't bow to the studios' whims. THAT makes him a rebel. And all the Jedi burritos in the world won't change that.
Now...let's hope, after all this, that Phantom Menace is a good movie. Opening night, 8 p.m., I already have my tix.:)
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Posted by The Incredible Mr. Limpett:
What I want is a graphical browser that has java capabilities, can do frames and secure transactions. That's all. fast and furious.
No spell checking, no email, no newsreader, no html editor, no graphics editor, no auto complete. Does anyone make this?!?!?!?
Why do they just keep getting bigger and slower? Is it that hard to program a small FAST browser?? without all that intgerated crap?
I've tried Opera, Lynx (too hard to find text only web pages anymore), netscape, explorer...are there any others out there for Windows/Mac/Linux that fits this bill?
---- "Wars, conflict, it's all business. One murder makes a villain. Millions a hero. Numbers sanctify."
The US government has known how to program people since at lease the 1960's. The perfect example is in the military. During WWII, some reports say as many as 80-90% of our service men did not fire their weapons in a combat situation. In order to overcome this the military did studies to find out why. They came to the conclusion that there was a resistance to kill other people hard wired into the human mind. What they did was train men to act automatically instead of thinking about it. The act of firing a rifle at an enemy soldier's head can't be delayed by thought. To this day the military forces of countries around the world are trained using the information collected by that research.
What can be used to overcome the resistance to kill is a trained response to a stimulus. You see the outline of an enemy soldier, you fire at it. Men are trained for weeks that when you see a foreign shape, you shoot it. No thought, no contemplation of right or wrong, just instant action. This has been done for over 30 years.
Granted this isn't low level programming, but if the point of programming is to determine behavior this is certainly a valid concern.
Do you know what MK Ultra was/is?
World governments have been interested in programming the human brain for along time.
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Posted by d106ene5:
As for cheap x86 compatible chips, I don't see AMD or Cyrix (or Intel for that matter) playing in the enterprise,
Since you're a Compaq distributor, you may want to look inside some of their systems from time to time. Many of their "enterprise" systems are powered by Intel chips (which by default are x86 compatibles).
In fact, the overwhlming lion's share of compaq enterprise systems sold are x86 based.
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
The original author is totally free to choose a license.
If the author chooses the GPL, he is removing choice from the next level of users--they MUST redistribute the source.
But if he chooses BSD, he is removing choice from users two levels down. If the first tier of users didn't redist the source (since they don't have to), the second tier gets zilch.
I happen to think that forcing redistribution on the first tier is less onerous than removing source access to the second tier....and I think you do, too.
For instance, suppose MS used some BSD code in NT, but modified it a little so it didn't work quite how you wanted. Wouldn't you be a little frustrated that you (the 2nd tier user) couldn't modify the source to work correctly especially since you CAN modify the originals?
Posted by Mike@ABC:
Wow...that's big. If Compaq gives up on the Alphas to concentrate on their core PC business, then it's just ceded a big chunk of the server market to Sun, IBM and the other mega-server makers.
So here's a question: is there any way Linux can take advantage of this possibility by touting Linux alternatives? I'm curious.
Posted by Rivendell:
Now at most universities, that may be a relevant response. But what you fail to realize is that a Hack at MIT is not vandelism, nor is it dangerous. Why? Because it is carefully engineered. After all, what is MIT famous for, if not it's engineering skill? The hacking community at MIT is quite sizable, and they have established many guidelines on how to execute a safe and respectable hack. Also, a hack such as this was not the result of a last minute decision to go do something fun. It most likely involved weeks of preparation to get it JUST right. Think about it. If that hack weren't engineered to perfection, how could they have possibly scaled the dome, one of the most visible locations on campus, deployed a hack over the whole thing, and escaped, without being sighted by the campus police?
Posted by the.big.cheese:
Why not use the Cartesian Burro-Friendly License? It works as a standalone license or in combination with other more headache-inducing licenses. See http://www.revoltingdevelopment.com/cbfl01.html for details.
Posted by MrKurtz:
Sunday, the Borders in my neck o' the woods had:
Debian 2.0 (only one, though)
Caldera 2.2
SuSE 6.1
Slack 3.6
RH 6.0
The CompUSSR a few doors down had the standard Caldera/RH/Applix selection -
and SuSE 6.1 for $29.95. $20 less than Borders.
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
I think that it can be a *GOOD* idea to put them near the porn. When I go to the local shows, or stores I always peer into the porn shelves to see what's nude er.. new. I say put a few copies of the distros there and see if they sell. If they do, keep it up, what does it hurt?
LK
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
>>Hmmm.... at the MicroCenter in Santa Clara, CA, Linux is displayed quite prominently. Slackware and FreeBSD may be near the porn. However, they're not in boxes, anyway. RedHat and SuSE have been sold in MC for a long time....
At the Best Buy near where I work the boxes for Redhat 5.2, 6.0 and Caldera distros are the first thing that you walk into when you enter the store.
I just need to find 3 friends to go in on RedHat 6.0 with me.
LK
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
I keep hearing how the BSD license is "more free". That's true, but misleading.
Would it be a good thing if I were free to deny you your First Amendment rights? No. My freedoms end where your freedoms begin.
I need to be forced into the small inconvenience of re-releasing my modifications to afford others the major freedom of seeing the source.
Posted by Buffy the Overflow Slayer:
It's not like Linux just takes the GNU tools and gives nothing back. Alot of the effort spent in expanding the current GNU utilities, and developing new GNU programs are due to peoples involvement in Linux.
BTW, when Linus started Linux, there were other free c compilers other than gcc, which was the main piece of GNU software Linus used at the beginning. The existence of the GNU tools sped up the development of Linux, but it still could have occurred without them. Heck, he could have used the BSD tools instead.
-buffy
Posted by JoeyRamone:
:-)...
Question is, would you be able to use Linux without all those wonderful toys GNU gives us ????
Personally I don't think so, but hey that's just me
Posted by JoeyRamone:
Eeeeehhhh,
Is it just me, or is that some sort of violation of Intel property ??
Posted by mizzer:
Isnt Loki making a LinuxPPC version of Civ before the Macos version come out? If so, I bet they will be making PPC versions. And did you notice "ERIC'S ULTIMATE SOLITAIRE" will be ported! Myth2, Quake1, and Erics! Those are like the only 3 games I play on my mac. DROOL DROOL, now when R5 comes out I shall be even happier.
Posted by OGL:
I for one am really dissapointed. Why more strategy titles? Wasn't Civ enough? I'd really prefer an action game for a change of pace (besides quake3 of course). Myth looks pretty fun, but it's been out for ages on my friend's Mac, so who really cares...and Railroad Tycoon? Couldn't they have switched gears and done a differenet type of game hsving completed Civ: CTP? I'm just puzzled as to why they would keep selecting games from the same genre over and over.
-W.W.
Posted by Tempt:
More commercial software is always a good thing with Linux. I don't subscribe to the RMS view of "ooh, it should -all- be free.", because it would take a hell of a lot of opensource effort to do a polished game - the artwork etc needs a great deal of effort and coordination.
I haven't looked at CivCTP for linux yet, but the bugs in the Windoze version were horrible (my flatmate gave up in disgust and returned the game), so hopefully those problems will have vanished (they seemed to be copy-protection related).
Anyway, much joy and happiness to the world - things can only get better.
Posted by Futron:
Me and a freind were just talking about this book no more than an hour ago. We were joking about how a book called open sources should be open sourced.
Weird!
Posted by d106ene5:
/.'d.
As a longtime FreeBSD user and bigot, I can proudly say that www.freebsd.org is an absolutely awesome resource the linux community would do well to copy outright.
PS - Its yet to be
Posted by heaven is falling:
To the people who voted "deserved":
If I could strangle you I would.
Posted by Wookie Trainer:
Don't you think "sellout" is a little strong? I mean really, he never did (or is now, for that matter) design Star Wars to be the blockbuster that it's sure to be. Read an interview from four years ago. He never really wanted to make another Star Wars. Some may say that he's finally given up under the pressure and "sold out". But think about it.
Is it really seeling out to wait an entire decade, then make an entirly new movie with his own money?
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
>>Just how do they plan on prosecuting anyone for Spam when this company has not incurred any damages for the spam, the user or the owner of the original server did...
In the US, all you need to do is come up with a good slogan and you can win in court. I can see it now Johnnie Cochran in civil court against a spammer "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, If they sent you an e-mail and you didn't ask, they gotta pay cash. If YOU didn't ask, THEY gotta pay cash. One last time, if you didn't ask, they gotta pay cash. Thank you, no more your honor."
Good night Mr. Spammer. Not to mention the high ration of fraudulent spammers, and in the US telemarketers can be forced to pay civil penalties for calling you after you've told them to remove you from their list.
LK
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
>>Please allow me to point out that the first wave of "Star Wars" collectable stuff did not show up until after the first movie had been out for a while. It was only after the studio realized they had a mega-mega hit on their hands that they started with the merchandising.
Ummm, not the studio it was George Lucas who was behind all of the merchandising of the series. That was a part of the deal he struck with the studio.
It was LUCAS. Not that I blame him or think that it's bad or anything, who wouldn't have done the exact same thing? But he's no shining example of the starving artist who cares only about his artistic vision making it onto the screen. Just like everybody else he wants to pay the bills and feed his kids.
LK
Posted by Mike@ABC:
:)
I was but a young lad when Star Wars first came out, but if I remember correctly, there were juice glasses, action figures and fast-food tie-ins before Empire even came out. Lucas sold out to marketing a long time ago.
However, he didn't sell out to Hollywood, a distinction that I think is missed here. He retained creative control and didn't bow to the studios' whims. THAT makes him a rebel. And all the Jedi burritos in the world won't change that.
Now...let's hope, after all this, that Phantom Menace is a good movie. Opening night, 8 p.m., I already have my tix.
Posted by The Incredible Mr. Limpett:
What I want is a graphical browser that has java capabilities, can do frames and secure transactions. That's all. fast and furious.
No spell checking, no email, no newsreader, no html editor, no graphics editor, no auto complete. Does anyone make this?!?!?!?
Why do they just keep getting bigger and slower? Is it that hard to program a small FAST browser?? without all that intgerated crap?
I've tried Opera, Lynx (too hard to find text only web pages anymore), netscape, explorer...are there any others out there for Windows/Mac/Linux that fits this bill?
----
"Wars, conflict, it's all business. One murder makes a
villain. Millions a hero. Numbers sanctify."
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
The US government has known how to program people since at lease the 1960's. The perfect example is in the military. During WWII, some reports say as many as 80-90% of our service men did not fire their weapons in a combat situation. In order to overcome this the military did studies to find out why. They came to the conclusion that there was a resistance to kill other people hard wired into the human mind. What they did was train men to act automatically instead of thinking about it. The act of firing a rifle at an enemy soldier's head can't be delayed by thought. To this day the military forces of countries around the world are trained using the information collected by that research.
What can be used to overcome the resistance to kill is a trained response to a stimulus. You see the outline of an enemy soldier, you fire at it. Men are trained for weeks that when you see a foreign shape, you shoot it. No thought, no contemplation of right or wrong, just instant action. This has been done for over 30 years.
Granted this isn't low level programming, but if the point of programming is to determine behavior this is certainly a valid concern.
Do you know what MK Ultra was/is?
World governments have been interested in programming the human brain for along time.
LK
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
no one said he can't. he just shouldn't. I can use my computer to transmit filthy foulmouthed flames to slashdot, but that doesn't mean I should.