but is not to be recommended since it leaves you feeling like you've had a sexual encounter with a Santa Gertrudis Bull lubricated with battery acid.
So what's not to recommend? I mean of course only a *genuine* Santa Gertrudis, and also most definitely not that crappy store-bought battery acid. That goes without saying.
Do you really think that a year before Apple was sitting around and said "Hey, let's make a map!" ? And the notion that "any imaginable task" on the computer can be done faster with a keyboard and mouse is just plain silly. 25 years ago you'd have been one of those guys who were claiming that using a mouse was ridiculous and that "any imaginable task" was better done on the command line.
There are many companies that would gladly spend a billion dollars to get that improvement. If $25M a year was all it took it would have been done already.
By those definitions no one could rationally be an atheist, making it a useless notion. Those definitions seem to have been written from a religious point of view.
Somebody else's speculation instead of your own does not a citation make. Apple is being hurt by the production shortfall. They're losing some sales because of it and pissing off people who are waiting.
That you can't see a trend right before your very eyes
Take some of your wisdom. If you think in any way that iPhone 5 sales are somehow faltering, when they are selling every single one they can build, and have a waiting list for those not yet built, you are delusional.
It's Android that's in trouble. Google has ceded true control to the carriers, they are Samsung's bitch, and now HTC can take Aliyun, iPhone it up, and start chopping away at Android's underside.
It's always been much lower than the general population's rate. By a huge margin. But I don't know how revealing that is. These are young people with jobs. the overall rate in China is close to 15 per 100k per year. Foxconn has more than a million workers, and there have been how many suicides? 18? (I'm not sure). But whatever the number it's a tiny fraction.
I'm not saying it's a good job to have. It's just not so bad you'd want to kill yourself rather than, say, quit and go home. That seems a more likely outcome.
We weren't. But you knew that. I answered a specific question, and it was about the flagship phone, which changed during the quarter.
Samsung sells an incredibly large range of phones. That's how they killed competitors like HTC. I'm sure there's an office somewhere dedicated solely to keeping track of what's in their product line.
That's not really the same thing. The flagship phone changed during the quarter in question. Apple also sold another 5 or 6 million 4's and 3GS's, but obviously they don't belong in the answer either.
I don't get the Samsung cheering in this thread. I can certainly understand Apple bashing. Apple is eminently bashable, and deservedly so in several ways. But what's to like about Samsung in general? They are definitely not "the good guys." Is it some sort of "my team" thing?
x-CIA people tend to be unpleasant to deal with typically...
How many do you know? I don't know any, or at least f I do they don't tell me. I do know some unpleasant people. Maybe I should ask them if they're ex-CIA.
Maybe. It depends on production. They'll sell every one they make, but how many can they build? Right now production is not where they had hoped. Once production is solved then they'll sell a crazy number, but not until then.
How did the GSIII fare against the iPhone 4s plus the iPhone 5 numbers? Seems to me to be a more fair comparison....
Add a little over 5 million. So 21.2M vs. the GS3's 18M.
4th quarter sales will be whatever number they can build. Considering that they are selling every one they make, their "market share" is as high as it could possibly be.
That said, I've been buying AAPL puts (the right to sell at a given price) this week, as none of this matters in the short run.
It will take Apple some time to gets its production run rates up to where it has a chance to meet demand. In the mean time that's putting an upper bound on sales.
On a side note, many people dismiss Apple as just a "marketing" company, and yet Samsung will spend a whopping $11B on advertising this year, while Apple will spend a whopping $11B on machinery and production equipment.
What, you think Apple just calls up and places an order, as if it were Chinese takeout? Apple owns more than $10B worth of manufacturing equipment. They line up the suppliers, they figure out how to build things. It's taken a tremendous cumulative effort.
The IOS and Mac OS X set of products I have are the most useful tool I have ever owned. if I have to pay a little more and tolerate some annoyances that's still true. Do I wish some things were different? Of course. But in many small ways it just makes my life a little easier and a little more pleasant. I've been programming computers since 1979, and this era feels like a whole new world.
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You're undergeneralizing.
So what's not to recommend? I mean of course only a *genuine* Santa Gertrudis, and also most definitely not that crappy store-bought battery acid. That goes without saying.
"It was shorter than I expected and I didn't care for the surprise ending. Was that guy even anywhere *in* the play earlier?"
Do you really think that a year before Apple was sitting around and said "Hey, let's make a map!" ?
And the notion that "any imaginable task" on the computer can be done faster with a keyboard and mouse is just plain silly. 25 years ago you'd have been one of those guys who were claiming that using a mouse was ridiculous and that "any imaginable task" was better done on the command line.
How do you know you're not one of the 13?
There are many companies that would gladly spend a billion dollars to get that improvement. If $25M a year was all it took it would have been done already.
Do you have a reference for that? I'd really like to know, but as far as I can tell, nobody who actually knows has said what the disagreements were.
That's a lot of typing for something you hate to tell. So A+ for the selfless effort.
Technically, he's not quite certain that he didn't, but only quite certain that he probably didn't.
Which is probably true. (heh).
By those definitions no one could rationally be an atheist, making it a useless notion. Those definitions seem to have been written from a religious point of view.
I see what you did there.
Somebody else's speculation instead of your own does not a citation make. Apple is being hurt by the production shortfall. They're losing some sales because of it and pissing off people who are waiting.
Take some of your wisdom. If you think in any way that iPhone 5 sales are somehow faltering, when they are selling every single one they can build, and have a waiting list for those not yet built, you are delusional.
It's Android that's in trouble. Google has ceded true control to the carriers, they are Samsung's bitch, and now HTC can take Aliyun, iPhone it up, and start chopping away at Android's underside.
The movie studios used to own the theaters
I'm not saying it's a good job to have. It's just not so bad you'd want to kill yourself rather than, say, quit and go home. That seems a more likely outcome.
We weren't. But you knew that. I answered a specific question, and it was about the flagship phone, which changed during the quarter.
Samsung sells an incredibly large range of phones. That's how they killed competitors like HTC. I'm sure there's an office somewhere dedicated solely to keeping track of what's in their product line.
Were there any that were very close and under-polled that he got right? If we're selectively tossing out results those should go as well.
You can build some pretty swanky casinos with a 2.4% advantage.
I don't get the Samsung cheering in this thread. I can certainly understand Apple bashing. Apple is eminently bashable, and deservedly so in several ways. But what's to like about Samsung in general? They are definitely not "the good guys." Is it some sort of "my team" thing?
How many do you know? I don't know any, or at least f I do they don't tell me. I do know some unpleasant people. Maybe I should ask them if they're ex-CIA.
Maybe. It depends on production. They'll sell every one they make, but how many can they build? Right now production is not where they had hoped. Once production is solved then they'll sell a crazy number, but not until then.
Add a little over 5 million. So 21.2M vs. the GS3's 18M.
4th quarter sales will be whatever number they can build. Considering that they are selling every one they make, their "market share" is as high as it could possibly be.
That said, I've been buying AAPL puts (the right to sell at a given price) this week, as none of this matters in the short run.
It will take Apple some time to gets its production run rates up to where it has a chance to meet demand. In the mean time that's putting an upper bound on sales.
On a side note, many people dismiss Apple as just a "marketing" company, and yet Samsung will spend a whopping $11B on advertising this year, while Apple will spend a whopping $11B on machinery and production equipment.
I don't know what came over me. I won't let it happen again. Slashdot has standards, after all :-)
What, you think Apple just calls up and places an order, as if it were Chinese takeout? Apple owns more than $10B worth of manufacturing equipment. They line up the suppliers, they figure out how to build things. It's taken a tremendous cumulative effort.
The IOS and Mac OS X set of products I have are the most useful tool I have ever owned. if I have to pay a little more and tolerate some annoyances that's still true. Do I wish some things were different? Of course. But in many small ways it just makes my life a little easier and a little more pleasant. I've been programming computers since 1979, and this era feels like a whole new world.