Y'know, I thought that all of those terrible mmories of seeing RIP graphics were gone from my brain.
Lo and behold, an image formed into my head that will stay there like a train wreck for quite a while. That terrible, terrible grey, and the grey... and did I mention the grey? And why did everyone see fit to use yellow text on it.
For example, every day i read my online comics, and i have to wait for them to be downloaded, decomressed, the page to be formated, x10 ads to popup, etc. When I get into work, and click my sluggy link, it should pop up instantly.
Maybe you should buy enough RAM to locally store the Internet and get the processor and bandwidth needed to keep it in sync at all times.
You forget that the fastest hard drive you can buy today is still not as fast as the ROM in those old machines.
What's 'worse' is that the amount of code and memory that has to be transferred into RAM on your modern machine is far greater nowadays to handle all of the extra functionality.
There's a statement involving fruit that applies here.
A better comparison (though still not a good one) here would be the length of time it took to load 'Paperboy' on the C64 and 'Return to Castle Wolfenstein' on your gaming rig. Paperboy loaded *much* slower.
It's a different situation there as jewel cases have been used for so many things that were not CDs and Philips didn't seem to care.
Personally, I've seen DVDs, TurboGrafx Hu-Cards, and even bubble gum in the shape of CDs (I am not making this up, I got one in a christmas stocking as a kid) sold in jewel cases.
How many stores will let you open the jewel case before you buy the CD?
Here in Canada, both HMV and Future Shop (probably others as well) have listening stations where you can take any CD up to them and they will open it for you and let you look at it, read the liner notes, and listen to the CD in full, if you wish.
You do not make any commitment to buying it whatsoever in doing this.
I know for certain that the "Fast & Furious" and "Charley Pride" CD's do not.
So? Are they still referred to as CDs by the production companies? Are they labelled as CDs or Compact Discs in the stores? Are they in the CD or compact disc section of the store?
"Newly Released Compact Discs" said the sign above the products for sale...
Do you really think Philips would trademark the logo and not the name?
Really, I don't know and I have no idea how to find out, but I'm guessing that "compact disc" is trademarked as well.
Did you read what Lars was saying? He only wanted his rights. He didn't want his property taken away and controlled by people who are not him.
Isn't that what we want, too?
Just because Lars was bad at conveying it and became a poster boy for the RIAA, who had totally different motives, doesn't necessarily mean that he was wrong.
Everybody assumed that he was against downloadable music, but that was not the case. He just wanted to have the freedom to choose what is done with his property. There's nothing wrong with giving away the music, as long as it's the musician making the decision.
Of course, I say this as a musician who has allowed music to be downloaded through p2p. It's my choice, not yours. Also, I am in no way a Metallica fan.
I guess it's something with the version of SuSE you can install from the Internet (it's different than the CD version, isn't it? YaST not being free or something?), but it was truly horrible -- my friend thought the (text based) installation script was even more unintuitive than the Debian dselect interface.
YaST is only "not free" in that you're not allowed to redistribute it for money after you've changed it (ie: did a s/SuSE/your company/g) but everything else is fine, including burning copies and handing them out. The installer you used, YaST1, is under their YaST license you mention just like the graphical YaST2.
I concur about the YaST1 interface. I'm not a huge fan of it. Basically, they've turned their development resources to YaST2, their Perl-based graphical environment. They even provide a development environment for it including automated module generation scripts, a graphical dialog editor, and even a code documentation system (a la kdoc). You can create your own custom installer with it and even distribute it, but... well, read the license.
The trick is not necesarily to use the DVD/CDs (though I buy them for the convenience of the DVD, and even bought a DVD drive for my desktop mostly for it), but to use NFS instead of FTP. (only a couple of mirrors support this though). You should be able to use YaST2 then.
That said, I *hated* SuSE the first time I tried it. I then tried it again a few months later and liked it (SuSEconfig rocks). I always try a distro at least twice before making final judgements on it.
I've found that the user community is the coolest part, though. I'm on suse-linux-e and I never see an expert making snide comments towards newbies (you never even see someone say RTFM), which happens in way too many forums.
Here is a vote for Debian, one distro that will always be free.
I'm all for free software just as you are, but I would never advocate sticking Debian on computers for people who have never had a computer before. apt-get is extremely useful but do you really think putting it in the hands of the masses is a good idea? Look at the recent libpng thing (I know it's not a common occurrence, but...). You and I are able to deal with that sort of thing really easily, but most people are not like us.
If you want Linux on these computers, try the more user-friendly distros like Mandrake or SuSE. The latter now automatically sets up TV cards on the initial install.
I'm not saying these distros are perfect, but they're much easier to install and maintain *for the average user* than Debian, Slackware or Redhat.
Interestingly enough, these situations are exactly what that song is all about.
Read the lyrics here. It can certainly be said more eloquently, but the point is clear from the very beginning: "Halls of Justice Painted Green / Money Talking..."
If you like Nethack, check out Falcon's Eye. It's an SDL-based fork of Nethack with an isometric view. The graphics are quite nice and it even has a soundtrack.
If the author of ProgramX doesn't fix a security hole, then debian might, or redhat might, or suse might, and as soon as one does the others can grab their fix and incorporate in their distribution.
Absolutely. I remember when a recent (not too serious) hole was found *by* SuSE's security team (I don't remember the package, sorry). One of the primary reasons I run SuSE is because of their awesome security team. They borrow a ton of stuff from OpenBSD, and that's a good thing. I also highly recommend their security mailing list no matter what distro you use, and their security scripts are deliberately distro-blind (I've installed them on critical Red Hat servers at work, and they work beautifully).
I ran YOU (YaST Online Update) manually and I looked through all of the updates. They submitted the patch to the original developers before sticking new packages on their servers. The new version of that package from the original developers (ie: they applied SuSE's patch) was released three days later.
But that's not the most important thing. Am I screwed if SuSE dies? Hell, no. My number one reason for preferring open source is that I can get *anybody* to do the work for me, including myself.
I've said it many times before: price is not the issue, control is. Sure, I can get SuSE for free all I want, but I pay for it just so their packagers and bug-fixers get to stay on board.
I've been looking at this lately and Zope is an ideal solution.
Zope can grok anything if you can find/write a product for it. It can also search it using ZCatalog.
I downloaded the MSWordDocument product and it kicks ass. When you stick a Word document into the Zope database it has it's own 'type.' When you access the document it will, by default, render it in HTML (thanks to wvware) and display it, with a bar at the top with a 'download' link that retrieves the original document. What makes this even cooler is that, since Zope can extract the text, ZCatalog can give you a search interface.
I built a simple system with search in about five minutes using the web interface and DTML tags. No lie.
There's a similar product for PDF files and if I make one for StarOffice files, it'll be useful at the place where I work.
To top it all of, Zope has built in versioning. You can even do diffs between arbitrary versions. It also has webdav support so that Windows users, with 'Web Folders' and Linux users, with davfs, can open and save files, with locking and everything as if they were local.
All the little stuff is already there, too. User accounts and login handling is native, you can attach metadata to anything, and you can write scripts in Python, Perl, or PHP.
Needless to say, I highly recommend it.
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I love that one.
Someone at my office saw my screen one time and said, "cool, you have a slacker clock!"
Quite frankly, I'd prefer the version envisioned by Modern Humorist.
I mean, it looks cool and all, and I'd love to try one, but I can't see myself using one to get to work. My feet have been working so far, and this would probably be dangerous. I have visions of "Gingerites" constantly running into old people... The office I work in is next door to a casino, so there's no shortage of those around here.
Um, robots.txt should *not* be used for security reasons. That's just stupid.
It is best used to tell crawlers not to bother with pages that are simply useless to crawl. If I ran a site containing a text dictionary in one big html file, I should use robots.txt. If I had a script that just printed random words, I should disallow that too.
It appears that a *lot* of people here are forgetting exactly why MPlayer is distributed in source only.
There are no binaries on the webpage and it is indeed a violation of the GPL to provide them. If you read the GPL you'll notice that most of those rules apply to anybody distributing binaries.
Do remember that the whole idea of our little culture is not "ensuring the GPL is conformed to." It is "ensuring that we have the freedom of seeing and having the ability to modify source code."
The MPlayer guys, in fact, satisfy both, as long as they never distribute binaries. In the same vein, you are free to download, compile, and use MPlayer, but as soon as you distribute a binary, you violate the GPL.
It's an annoyance, but it's the only way to do it, unfortunately.
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Y'know, I thought that all of those terrible mmories of seeing RIP graphics were gone from my brain.
Lo and behold, an image formed into my head that will stay there like a train wreck for quite a while. That terrible, terrible grey, and the grey... and did I mention the grey? And why did everyone see fit to use yellow text on it.
Arrrgh, make it stop.
Yes, that's why Linux was first developed on Amigas.
Man, where would you *ever* get such an idea?
To the original poster: Linux *was* available back then. I ran SLS and, later on, Slackware on my 386DX-33.
Gstreamer has working aRts support now.
The Gstreamer guys would *like* to have more KDE integration and I really think that it would pay off big if both teams worked together.
You do know that they hired Sam Lantinga, right?
Now, they didn't hire him for Linux development, but if anybody can show how to do cross-platform game development in SDL, he's the guy.
The trademark laws are generally the same. Haven't you been paying attention over the past week?
Maybe you should buy enough RAM to locally store the Internet and get the processor and bandwidth needed to keep it in sync at all times.
You forget that the fastest hard drive you can buy today is still not as fast as the ROM in those old machines.
What's 'worse' is that the amount of code and memory that has to be transferred into RAM on your modern machine is far greater nowadays to handle all of the extra functionality.
There's a statement involving fruit that applies here.
A better comparison (though still not a good one) here would be the length of time it took to load 'Paperboy' on the C64 and 'Return to Castle Wolfenstein' on your gaming rig. Paperboy loaded *much* slower.
It's a different situation there as jewel cases have been used for so many things that were not CDs and Philips didn't seem to care.
Personally, I've seen DVDs, TurboGrafx Hu-Cards, and even bubble gum in the shape of CDs (I am not making this up, I got one in a christmas stocking as a kid) sold in jewel cases.
Here in Canada, both HMV and Future Shop (probably others as well) have listening stations where you can take any CD up to them and they will open it for you and let you look at it, read the liner notes, and listen to the CD in full, if you wish.
You do not make any commitment to buying it whatsoever in doing this.
So? Are they still referred to as CDs by the production companies? Are they labelled as CDs or Compact Discs in the stores? Are they in the CD or compact disc section of the store?
"Newly Released Compact Discs" said the sign above the products for sale...
Do you really think Philips would trademark the logo and not the name?
Really, I don't know and I have no idea how to find out, but I'm guessing that "compact disc" is trademarked as well.
Tell that to the German judge that granted an injunction against SuSE...
Did you read what Lars was saying? He only wanted his rights. He didn't want his property taken away and controlled by people who are not him.
Isn't that what we want, too?
Just because Lars was bad at conveying it and became a poster boy for the RIAA, who had totally different motives, doesn't necessarily mean that he was wrong.
Everybody assumed that he was against downloadable music, but that was not the case. He just wanted to have the freedom to choose what is done with his property. There's nothing wrong with giving away the music, as long as it's the musician making the decision.
Of course, I say this as a musician who has allowed music to be downloaded through p2p. It's my choice, not yours. Also, I am in no way a Metallica fan.
YaST is only "not free" in that you're not allowed to redistribute it for money after you've changed it (ie: did a s/SuSE/your company/g) but everything else is fine, including burning copies and handing them out. The installer you used, YaST1, is under their YaST license you mention just like the graphical YaST2.
I concur about the YaST1 interface. I'm not a huge fan of it. Basically, they've turned their development resources to YaST2, their Perl-based graphical environment. They even provide a development environment for it including automated module generation scripts, a graphical dialog editor, and even a code documentation system (a la kdoc). You can create your own custom installer with it and even distribute it, but... well, read the license.
The trick is not necesarily to use the DVD/CDs (though I buy them for the convenience of the DVD, and even bought a DVD drive for my desktop mostly for it), but to use NFS instead of FTP. (only a couple of mirrors support this though). You should be able to use YaST2 then.
That said, I *hated* SuSE the first time I tried it. I then tried it again a few months later and liked it (SuSEconfig rocks). I always try a distro at least twice before making final judgements on it.
I've found that the user community is the coolest part, though. I'm on suse-linux-e and I never see an expert making snide comments towards newbies (you never even see someone say RTFM), which happens in way too many forums.
I'm all for free software just as you are, but I would never advocate sticking Debian on computers for people who have never had a computer before. apt-get is extremely useful but do you really think putting it in the hands of the masses is a good idea? Look at the recent libpng thing (I know it's not a common occurrence, but...). You and I are able to deal with that sort of thing really easily, but most people are not like us.
If you want Linux on these computers, try the more user-friendly distros like Mandrake or SuSE. The latter now automatically sets up TV cards on the initial install.
I'm not saying these distros are perfect, but they're much easier to install and maintain *for the average user* than Debian, Slackware or Redhat.
Interestingly enough, these situations are exactly what that song is all about.
Read the lyrics here. It can certainly be said more eloquently, but the point is clear from the very beginning: "Halls of Justice Painted Green / Money Talking..."
Oops. Sorry. I automatically thought this was a PCMCIA card (bad reading on my part).
A Google search for a Linux driver for this *USB* interface turned up nothing, however.
It's not on this page so I don't think so.
Sorry...
Hey, Fr1st friend.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
If you like Nethack, check out Falcon's Eye. It's an SDL-based fork of Nethack with an isometric view. The graphics are quite nice and it even has a soundtrack.
I've wasted a *lot* of time with it.
Absolutely. I remember when a recent (not too serious) hole was found *by* SuSE's security team (I don't remember the package, sorry). One of the primary reasons I run SuSE is because of their awesome security team. They borrow a ton of stuff from OpenBSD, and that's a good thing. I also highly recommend their security mailing list no matter what distro you use, and their security scripts are deliberately distro-blind (I've installed them on critical Red Hat servers at work, and they work beautifully).
I ran YOU (YaST Online Update) manually and I looked through all of the updates. They submitted the patch to the original developers before sticking new packages on their servers. The new version of that package from the original developers (ie: they applied SuSE's patch) was released three days later.
But that's not the most important thing. Am I screwed if SuSE dies? Hell, no. My number one reason for preferring open source is that I can get *anybody* to do the work for me, including myself.
I've said it many times before: price is not the issue, control is. Sure, I can get SuSE for free all I want, but I pay for it just so their packagers and bug-fixers get to stay on board.
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Zope.
I've been looking at this lately and Zope is an ideal solution.
Zope can grok anything if you can find/write a product for it. It can also search it using ZCatalog.
I downloaded the MSWordDocument product and it kicks ass. When you stick a Word document into the Zope database it has it's own 'type.' When you access the document it will, by default, render it in HTML (thanks to wvware) and display it, with a bar at the top with a 'download' link that retrieves the original document. What makes this even cooler is that, since Zope can extract the text, ZCatalog can give you a search interface.
I built a simple system with search in about five minutes using the web interface and DTML tags. No lie.
There's a similar product for PDF files and if I make one for StarOffice files, it'll be useful at the place where I work.
To top it all of, Zope has built in versioning. You can even do diffs between arbitrary versions. It also has webdav support so that Windows users, with 'Web Folders' and Linux users, with davfs, can open and save files, with locking and everything as if they were local.
All the little stuff is already there, too. User accounts and login handling is native, you can attach metadata to anything, and you can write scripts in Python, Perl, or PHP.
Needless to say, I highly recommend it.
I love that one.
Someone at my office saw my screen one time and said, "cool, you have a slacker clock!"
Indeed.
Quite frankly, I'd prefer the version envisioned by Modern Humorist.
I mean, it looks cool and all, and I'd love to try one, but I can't see myself using one to get to work. My feet have been working so far, and this would probably be dangerous. I have visions of "Gingerites" constantly running into old people... The office I work in is next door to a casino, so there's no shortage of those around here.
Um, robots.txt should *not* be used for security reasons. That's just stupid.
It is best used to tell crawlers not to bother with pages that are simply useless to crawl. If I ran a site containing a text dictionary in one big html file, I should use robots.txt. If I had a script that just printed random words, I should disallow that too.
It appears that a *lot* of people here are forgetting exactly why MPlayer is distributed in source only.
There are no binaries on the webpage and it is indeed a violation of the GPL to provide them. If you read the GPL you'll notice that most of those rules apply to anybody distributing binaries.
Do remember that the whole idea of our little culture is not "ensuring the GPL is conformed to." It is "ensuring that we have the freedom of seeing and having the ability to modify source code."
The MPlayer guys, in fact, satisfy both, as long as they never distribute binaries. In the same vein, you are free to download, compile, and use MPlayer, but as soon as you distribute a binary, you violate the GPL.
It's an annoyance, but it's the only way to do it, unfortunately.