Yahoo's death knell for me was when del.icio.us no longer worked for me on a normal web browser, barely a couple weeks after yahoo bought it out. Even now, after a few years, the only way it works is if I put a browser in "private" mode. Which um, feels weird. That said, if there's anything I wish would work out for yahoo, it's Other Space - which, they put zero effort into making that available on my TV. Why do I need to plug my laptop into my AVR to watch a freaking show? Or trick yahoo into thinking my AVR browser is acceptable. Why pretend you're making TV content but not put effort into making it available on TVs? Yeah, horrible leadership.
Maybe the rest of them can see that they, and Apple, have all done a lot more for China and they, unlike Apple, don't want to draw too much attention to it only to look like hypocritical oafs that would rather do China's bidding so that political dissidents can be silenced, than to do something where it almost (but not quite) would make sense to do something like this in a free society. Fark Apple, trying to pretend they have a moral high-ground here. Maybe we should just ask China for help hacking the phone, since Apple gave them the source code, back doors, and manufacturing of the device...
My wife has a Volt, and it's actually a pretty good car - great features, etc. Only major complaint is the microsoft part of it - stupid dash crashes frequently, does odd things, can't be made to not automatically play music from your phone when all you're bloody trying to do is plug it in to charge, etc. Seriously, can be listening to the radio already, plug in your phone, BOOM - randomly picks something from your phone and autoplays it. Because autoplay of removable media has worked out so well for Microsoft operating systems for so many years, I guess...
I'd settle for a dollar for every person that doesn't even know what a copyright is - I'm less greedy, that way. Be a bit easier to determine, less room for subjectivity. Probably 95% of your amount, regardless.
Most web servers do that automatically. I'd be willing to bet that 99.999% of the web servers in use do, actually. Even the ones that can't do SHA-1 anymore, still have multiple levels they support; the server should negotiate for the highest shared level. Why is this being painted as some sort of innovation Facebook has miraculously engineered? (Effectively) every single web server and web browser out there is already doing this...
the word you're looking for is "force," not "include." I started using Linux in 94, and I stopped when it was too much of a hassle to stay away from systemd.
Well while the two of us might be acclaimed economists, so hey who knows, obviously someone out there thinks Amazon is doing ok since the amount of money Bezos made this year alone would put him in the top 10
"making more money than Amazon in the cloud business" - you clearly don't know where AWS came from. They already had that infrastructure in-house for their own stuff, and just decided to make it cheaper for themselves and make a bit of money off the engineering effort. IE, if you're going to figure out how much they're "making" you need to also figure out how much they're saving. There's not much to Azure, and for a large part it's actually just MS cannibalizing itself. AWS was a completely new market segment for Amazon, they're not just shifting some of their own customers from one thing to another thing.
except jobs was still starting with a rabid fanbase still in place, very strong in academia. Why is that important? Because at that same moment, things were being pulled from academia to The Rest Of Us. Case in point: Myspace was already around with a large user base, Facebook was just college students. Facebook (full of people using macs) opened the doors to The Rest Of Us, and boom - now it's practically illegal to not have a facebook account. Same bit, the positioning was still very much there. So where's Yahoo's positioning? Well, old farts that were too lazy to spend the time giving people a new email address to use...yeah, that's about it. People who didn't like it, but were too lazy/stubborn to change. I mean for fark's sake, whenever I go to Yahoo I get these auto-play audio ads; they've literally trained me to not go to their website if I'm doing something important. They're actively killing themselves.
Yahoo Screen has a cute/fun show called/,a href="https://screen.yahoo.com/other-space/">Other Space, have been patiently waiting for season 2...
The show has Milana Vayntrub in it - the woman in the AT&T commercials, for people who go crazy over women in commercials. She wasn't why I watched the show, but she did a great job.
You should become a user and experience the change, before saying such things. I'm not complaining about promoted tweets, or even ads. Those are obviously needed, for a revenue stream. I, and any other twitter users I know that have this out-of-order crap, are complaining that the implementation is bad ("while you were away" doesn't actually know when I last checked my feed somehow, thus shows me things much further in the past than while I was away) and it promotes stuff for which they're not making any money. Literally, there's a particular person on my twitter feed that is admittedly very attractive, yet...I really only want to see her chronologically. I don't want her posts pushed to the top over and over (especially in the "while you were away" section) when I know her personally and I know she's not promoting it. They're not doing it for revenue. They're simply trying to do a particular new sorting method and they're implementing it *horribly*
There has to be a happy medium, somehow. Back when we were customers, there were limited options. Nowadays, there are so many potential customers that were you to suggest one particular site be somehow forced (such as so many try to force Facebook membership...) you'd be walking down a very dangerous path. The only way for us to be customers again at this point would be for the gov to pass laws protecting our private information, but unfortunately...that ship has sailed.
it's not a lack of resourcefulness, I'm simply working from home a lot lately and not seeing anyone; a week of not shaving, and I have a thick beard. Sorry. And since when does riding a harley make someone a hipster? I'd never owner a single-geared bike, nor even call it by a cute name; prior to my birth someone invented the concept of multiple gears on a bicycle, and when I go biking I appreciate being able to change those gears. I've lost track of what people with an extremely limited view of what I do and who I am will then use to declare me or anyone else a "hipster" though, probably because I'm too old or too uninterested in such things. It's also irrelevant - "while you were away" does not show me things which happened "while I was away" - it consistently shows me things I've already seen, yet which were posted days ago and are now at the top of the feed for some idiotic reason. A crappy idea is one thing, but a coupling it with a really crappy implementation...
Nope. I do currently have a beard, but it's because my right arm was destroyed in an accident I had on my harley a few months ago. I check twitter when I want to find out if a comedian I like has a show in the next day or two, which means I might check it a few times in a particular day but then not check it again for a few weeks. Checking it in the morning, just to have bloody Kate Quigley's boobs all over by the afternoon again when Erica's post goes into hiding somewhere 5,000 posts down (despite being posted 5 minutes ago, to Kate's posting yesterday) means I am no longer getting from Twitter what it gave me before. And imagine a new Arab Spring, where the posts get hidden by some stupid posts you already farking read days before and is suddenly "while you were away" again? Thanks for playing, though. (ps I do make craft mead, and want to make a meadery, so if you want to call me a hipster based on not liking Twitter's crappy implementation of a crappy idea, fine)
Isn't it a bit ironic, don't you think, for there to be a slashdot discussion about a website that dramatically changes a loved posting and discussion format, into one that is widely despised, despite overwhelming feedback against the change? I remember back when I could see, in my profile, how many responses my posts had...and could easily find and respond to them...and when I wasn't given a teeny tiny little box into which to type my responses, with an entire empty webpage staring at me in all the other directions of the screen. And and and...get off my lawn, you damn kids!;)
Problem 1: they don't keep track across devices. If I log in from one web browser and see new notifications, it's not uncommon for me to then log on via a different web browser half a day later and some of those notifications are back to being new again. Bah. What does this have to do with this "news" from TFA? Apparently I was part of the "test group" unfortunately, because I've been getting this out-of-order crap for a long while. If I check twitter from my phone in the morning and catch up on everything, then in the evening I have to wade through a lot of "while you were away" crap that was posted days ago despite my having logged on hours before, and then I can't find what was actually posted since the last time I was logged on...that's not "confusion." That's a mix of "completely idiotic UX," "very poor backend tracking of what has already been viewed," and "extremely poor guesses as to what I might be interested in, elevating feeds in which I'm only marginally interested while obfuscating those in which I have a lot of interest." I suspect that third one has to do with how many likes/whatever the person has, but...sometimes people are interested in someone for different reasons. I follow comedians, and if personX is funnier than personY, but personY looks awesome in a bikini, then that doesn't mean I want you to blare personY's posts at me and hide personX's posts... I'm in SoCal, if I want to see a really fit girl in a bikini, I walk outside and look in any direction.
you seem to not be staying within the context of my response. Laws are being passed to improve cybersecurity, and GP said
"But at the same time, other European lawmakers are demanding back doors for law enforcement. So, which one wins? Can they use this rule to say "we can't install back doors because they're a security leak"?
It's not an either-or situation. It would be quite simple to have a law-enforcement role, which was then able to view certain specific types of data. To do that, you have to introduce the concept of roles-based-access. Tada, you've actually just improved security. One could very easily argue against the law-enforcement role having anything more than an incomplete auditing role; no need for them to turn off parts of the grid such as TFA mentions as an example, nor tweek the setting on your insulin pump. Show me even a *proposed* law asking for such types of access. Also, it might surprise you to learn (apparently) that you are not be the only person on Slashdot that has an IA architect-type role. There's many a project I've helped run where such requests have been made, and which we then made them pay for an overall cybersecurity improvement as part of the minimal auditing role that was given out.
Depends on lots of things. People mistakenly think cybersecurity only has to do with confidentiality - that's incorrect. It also has to do with integrity, availability, and non-repudiation. If the "back door" provides access to only certain types of data, and it doesn't allow the data to be changed, and it doesn't present a method for making the data less available, and it is still fully audited and the FBI can be shown to have accessed something when it did and to have *not* accessed it when they didn't, then we're 999,999,999,999,999 times better than where we are right now. Right now, there's no roles-based access control on any device anywhere, no auditing, no secure software design...not even a hint of threat modeling and such. I'm more anti-big-brother than most, but I'd certainly prefer an overall improvement which then will show with certainty when the gov accessed data, than what we have now. The idea that a "back door" means some sort of idiotic root kit to full un-mitigated access to absolutely everything, is not only false - but is also a very incomplete picture, if true.
::blink:: I started using Slackware in 95, have been on several Fedora UGs, and still have my "mother's day release" copy of the first time Redhat was made avail via media. Moved off Linux to OpenBSD after the stupid systemd crap. Did you not see the "android" and "apps that can't close" bit? The phone UX is being slammed into desktops/laptops, has been for years. I have a windows10 vm as a security researcher, but I certainly don't use it for anything...real...
Early on, apps could actually be stopped from within the app in a normal way. They started phasing that out, and hell - at this point, if you start youtube the best you can do is pause the video. You can't actually kill it - without going into the application manager and hitting "force stop" which always gives you a warning message that you could damage your application by doing so. Give me some other bloody method of closing the app, then. I remember when Ingress went from having a close button, to adding a method of switching profiles, and then removed the close button. You're assumed to be in an always-on, always-tracked world now. I'm happy to pay a bit of money for an OS that doesn't invade my privacy, thanks.
and just how is it that you secure a product that is constantly talking to systems on the internet, and doesn't have a way to disable such communication? An early beta of Win10 did this as well, I saw it - I was just curious what Win10 looked like, so I put it on something. After seeing that, I quickly removed it and any thought I'd ever use Windows for anything ever again.
I'm buying a massive house that is 1/3 the price it should be (ie, very good shape structurally, but is still half the price of per/square of "poor" quality; very high quality home, just hasn't been remodeled in many decades. Brand new roof though...heh). I'll be removing most of the sheetrock and replacing half of the wiring already, and am installing solar. I can't find a solar company that seems comfortable with DC circuits, low-voltage or otherwise. Coming off the solar it will be already DC; converting from DC to AC just to convert back to DC is likely why they claim the 20-40% loss - you're not losing in conversion just once, right? So then I just need some sort of power stabilizing factor - such as running through a battery or whatnot - thus why I clicked on this article at all. Any already know of a good book or resource with which I could inform myself before spending a good deal of money?
I've personally never understood the "why don't they do something about the..." argument. Why didn't white westerners stop Timothy McVeigh from happening? Why didn't white westerners stop Hitler from happening? Ok, have to stop asking why, I Godwin'd...but seriously, one has to have a very myopic view of the world to think/say something like that.
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Yahoo's death knell for me was when del.icio.us no longer worked for me on a normal web browser, barely a couple weeks after yahoo bought it out. Even now, after a few years, the only way it works is if I put a browser in "private" mode. Which um, feels weird. That said, if there's anything I wish would work out for yahoo, it's Other Space - which, they put zero effort into making that available on my TV. Why do I need to plug my laptop into my AVR to watch a freaking show? Or trick yahoo into thinking my AVR browser is acceptable. Why pretend you're making TV content but not put effort into making it available on TVs? Yeah, horrible leadership.
I think you mean newer servers running outdated software. But even that doesn't work, given how horrible of a security mess server2012 and win10 are.
Maybe the rest of them can see that they, and Apple, have all done a lot more for China and they, unlike Apple, don't want to draw too much attention to it only to look like hypocritical oafs that would rather do China's bidding so that political dissidents can be silenced, than to do something where it almost (but not quite) would make sense to do something like this in a free society. Fark Apple, trying to pretend they have a moral high-ground here. Maybe we should just ask China for help hacking the phone, since Apple gave them the source code, back doors, and manufacturing of the device...
My wife has a Volt, and it's actually a pretty good car - great features, etc. Only major complaint is the microsoft part of it - stupid dash crashes frequently, does odd things, can't be made to not automatically play music from your phone when all you're bloody trying to do is plug it in to charge, etc. Seriously, can be listening to the radio already, plug in your phone, BOOM - randomly picks something from your phone and autoplays it. Because autoplay of removable media has worked out so well for Microsoft operating systems for so many years, I guess...
I'd settle for a dollar for every person that doesn't even know what a copyright is - I'm less greedy, that way. Be a bit easier to determine, less room for subjectivity. Probably 95% of your amount, regardless.
Most web servers do that automatically. I'd be willing to bet that 99.999% of the web servers in use do, actually. Even the ones that can't do SHA-1 anymore, still have multiple levels they support; the server should negotiate for the highest shared level. Why is this being painted as some sort of innovation Facebook has miraculously engineered? (Effectively) every single web server and web browser out there is already doing this...
the word you're looking for is "force," not "include." I started using Linux in 94, and I stopped when it was too much of a hassle to stay away from systemd.
Well while the two of us might be acclaimed economists, so hey who knows, obviously someone out there thinks Amazon is doing ok since the amount of money Bezos made this year alone would put him in the top 10
"making more money than Amazon in the cloud business" - you clearly don't know where AWS came from. They already had that infrastructure in-house for their own stuff, and just decided to make it cheaper for themselves and make a bit of money off the engineering effort. IE, if you're going to figure out how much they're "making" you need to also figure out how much they're saving. There's not much to Azure, and for a large part it's actually just MS cannibalizing itself. AWS was a completely new market segment for Amazon, they're not just shifting some of their own customers from one thing to another thing.
except jobs was still starting with a rabid fanbase still in place, very strong in academia. Why is that important? Because at that same moment, things were being pulled from academia to The Rest Of Us. Case in point: Myspace was already around with a large user base, Facebook was just college students. Facebook (full of people using macs) opened the doors to The Rest Of Us, and boom - now it's practically illegal to not have a facebook account. Same bit, the positioning was still very much there. So where's Yahoo's positioning? Well, old farts that were too lazy to spend the time giving people a new email address to use...yeah, that's about it. People who didn't like it, but were too lazy/stubborn to change. I mean for fark's sake, whenever I go to Yahoo I get these auto-play audio ads; they've literally trained me to not go to their website if I'm doing something important. They're actively killing themselves.
Yahoo Screen has a cute/fun show called /,a href="https://screen.yahoo.com/other-space/">Other Space, have been patiently waiting for season 2...
The show has Milana Vayntrub in it - the woman in the AT&T commercials, for people who go crazy over women in commercials. She wasn't why I watched the show, but she did a great job.
You should become a user and experience the change, before saying such things. I'm not complaining about promoted tweets, or even ads. Those are obviously needed, for a revenue stream. I, and any other twitter users I know that have this out-of-order crap, are complaining that the implementation is bad ("while you were away" doesn't actually know when I last checked my feed somehow, thus shows me things much further in the past than while I was away) and it promotes stuff for which they're not making any money. Literally, there's a particular person on my twitter feed that is admittedly very attractive, yet...I really only want to see her chronologically. I don't want her posts pushed to the top over and over (especially in the "while you were away" section) when I know her personally and I know she's not promoting it. They're not doing it for revenue. They're simply trying to do a particular new sorting method and they're implementing it *horribly*
There has to be a happy medium, somehow. Back when we were customers, there were limited options. Nowadays, there are so many potential customers that were you to suggest one particular site be somehow forced (such as so many try to force Facebook membership...) you'd be walking down a very dangerous path. The only way for us to be customers again at this point would be for the gov to pass laws protecting our private information, but unfortunately...that ship has sailed.
*shakes tiny impotent fist of rage in your direction*
it's not a lack of resourcefulness, I'm simply working from home a lot lately and not seeing anyone; a week of not shaving, and I have a thick beard. Sorry. And since when does riding a harley make someone a hipster? I'd never owner a single-geared bike, nor even call it by a cute name; prior to my birth someone invented the concept of multiple gears on a bicycle, and when I go biking I appreciate being able to change those gears. I've lost track of what people with an extremely limited view of what I do and who I am will then use to declare me or anyone else a "hipster" though, probably because I'm too old or too uninterested in such things. It's also irrelevant - "while you were away" does not show me things which happened "while I was away" - it consistently shows me things I've already seen, yet which were posted days ago and are now at the top of the feed for some idiotic reason. A crappy idea is one thing, but a coupling it with a really crappy implementation...
Nope. I do currently have a beard, but it's because my right arm was destroyed in an accident I had on my harley a few months ago. I check twitter when I want to find out if a comedian I like has a show in the next day or two, which means I might check it a few times in a particular day but then not check it again for a few weeks. Checking it in the morning, just to have bloody Kate Quigley's boobs all over by the afternoon again when Erica's post goes into hiding somewhere 5,000 posts down (despite being posted 5 minutes ago, to Kate's posting yesterday) means I am no longer getting from Twitter what it gave me before. And imagine a new Arab Spring, where the posts get hidden by some stupid posts you already farking read days before and is suddenly "while you were away" again? Thanks for playing, though. (ps I do make craft mead, and want to make a meadery, so if you want to call me a hipster based on not liking Twitter's crappy implementation of a crappy idea, fine)
Isn't it a bit ironic, don't you think, for there to be a slashdot discussion about a website that dramatically changes a loved posting and discussion format, into one that is widely despised, despite overwhelming feedback against the change? I remember back when I could see, in my profile, how many responses my posts had...and could easily find and respond to them...and when I wasn't given a teeny tiny little box into which to type my responses, with an entire empty webpage staring at me in all the other directions of the screen. And and and...get off my lawn, you damn kids! ;)
Problem 1: they don't keep track across devices. If I log in from one web browser and see new notifications, it's not uncommon for me to then log on via a different web browser half a day later and some of those notifications are back to being new again. Bah. What does this have to do with this "news" from TFA? Apparently I was part of the "test group" unfortunately, because I've been getting this out-of-order crap for a long while. If I check twitter from my phone in the morning and catch up on everything, then in the evening I have to wade through a lot of "while you were away" crap that was posted days ago despite my having logged on hours before, and then I can't find what was actually posted since the last time I was logged on...that's not "confusion." That's a mix of "completely idiotic UX," "very poor backend tracking of what has already been viewed," and "extremely poor guesses as to what I might be interested in, elevating feeds in which I'm only marginally interested while obfuscating those in which I have a lot of interest." I suspect that third one has to do with how many likes/whatever the person has, but...sometimes people are interested in someone for different reasons. I follow comedians, and if personX is funnier than personY, but personY looks awesome in a bikini, then that doesn't mean I want you to blare personY's posts at me and hide personX's posts... I'm in SoCal, if I want to see a really fit girl in a bikini, I walk outside and look in any direction.
"But at the same time, other European lawmakers are demanding back doors for law enforcement. So, which one wins? Can they use this rule to say "we can't install back doors because they're a security leak"?
It's not an either-or situation. It would be quite simple to have a law-enforcement role, which was then able to view certain specific types of data. To do that, you have to introduce the concept of roles-based-access. Tada, you've actually just improved security. One could very easily argue against the law-enforcement role having anything more than an incomplete auditing role; no need for them to turn off parts of the grid such as TFA mentions as an example, nor tweek the setting on your insulin pump. Show me even a *proposed* law asking for such types of access. Also, it might surprise you to learn (apparently) that you are not be the only person on Slashdot that has an IA architect-type role. There's many a project I've helped run where such requests have been made, and which we then made them pay for an overall cybersecurity improvement as part of the minimal auditing role that was given out.
Depends on lots of things. People mistakenly think cybersecurity only has to do with confidentiality - that's incorrect. It also has to do with integrity, availability, and non-repudiation. If the "back door" provides access to only certain types of data, and it doesn't allow the data to be changed, and it doesn't present a method for making the data less available, and it is still fully audited and the FBI can be shown to have accessed something when it did and to have *not* accessed it when they didn't, then we're 999,999,999,999,999 times better than where we are right now. Right now, there's no roles-based access control on any device anywhere, no auditing, no secure software design...not even a hint of threat modeling and such. I'm more anti-big-brother than most, but I'd certainly prefer an overall improvement which then will show with certainty when the gov accessed data, than what we have now. The idea that a "back door" means some sort of idiotic root kit to full un-mitigated access to absolutely everything, is not only false - but is also a very incomplete picture, if true.
::blink:: I started using Slackware in 95, have been on several Fedora UGs, and still have my "mother's day release" copy of the first time Redhat was made avail via media. Moved off Linux to OpenBSD after the stupid systemd crap. Did you not see the "android" and "apps that can't close" bit? The phone UX is being slammed into desktops/laptops, has been for years. I have a windows10 vm as a security researcher, but I certainly don't use it for anything...real...
Early on, apps could actually be stopped from within the app in a normal way. They started phasing that out, and hell - at this point, if you start youtube the best you can do is pause the video. You can't actually kill it - without going into the application manager and hitting "force stop" which always gives you a warning message that you could damage your application by doing so. Give me some other bloody method of closing the app, then. I remember when Ingress went from having a close button, to adding a method of switching profiles, and then removed the close button. You're assumed to be in an always-on, always-tracked world now. I'm happy to pay a bit of money for an OS that doesn't invade my privacy, thanks.
and just how is it that you secure a product that is constantly talking to systems on the internet, and doesn't have a way to disable such communication? An early beta of Win10 did this as well, I saw it - I was just curious what Win10 looked like, so I put it on something. After seeing that, I quickly removed it and any thought I'd ever use Windows for anything ever again.
I'm buying a massive house that is 1/3 the price it should be (ie, very good shape structurally, but is still half the price of per/square of "poor" quality; very high quality home, just hasn't been remodeled in many decades. Brand new roof though...heh). I'll be removing most of the sheetrock and replacing half of the wiring already, and am installing solar. I can't find a solar company that seems comfortable with DC circuits, low-voltage or otherwise. Coming off the solar it will be already DC; converting from DC to AC just to convert back to DC is likely why they claim the 20-40% loss - you're not losing in conversion just once, right? So then I just need some sort of power stabilizing factor - such as running through a battery or whatnot - thus why I clicked on this article at all. Any already know of a good book or resource with which I could inform myself before spending a good deal of money?
I've personally never understood the "why don't they do something about the..." argument. Why didn't white westerners stop Timothy McVeigh from happening? Why didn't white westerners stop Hitler from happening? Ok, have to stop asking why, I Godwin'd...but seriously, one has to have a very myopic view of the world to think/say something like that.