If I walked into the Apple store intending to buy a PowerBook with a 10-gallon jug full of pennies, I would have received the exact same reaction. The guy was obviously a jackass who wanted to "stick it to the man," and the man stuck it to him hard.
Right. That guy was an ass who got what he wanted: attention.
Best Buy: That'll be $200 Man: OK here's one hundred two-dollar bills Best Buy: Sorry we can't take that many small bills Man: Sorry that's all I have Best Buy: Please pay in another way Man: No Best Buy: Please leave Man: No Best Buy: Leave now Man: No I want my purchase Best Buy: Cops pls Cops: Please leave now Man: No Cops: You are arrested for trespassing Man: I'm telling the Internet
So in other words, the "comming generation" is to MySpace as our generation is to Geocities. The Internet* survived Geocities; it can survive the "blogosphere"; and it can survive MySpace.
* By which I mean "the group of elitists on the Internet who wish there were literacy and knowledge requirements to use the Internet," also known as "Usenet."
The operative word is standby. You aren't guaranteed to get on a plane with a standby ticket, but you are with a first-class ticket (or a regular coach ticket, of course).
That's exactly the sort of mentality that keeps Linux off the desktop at companies. Sample question you'll hear at the company-wide mandatory mutt training session:
How do I set up a meeting, viewing everyone's schedules at a glance, reserving an available room and projector, with mutt?
Not many Slashdot users pay for the privilege of subscribing, and even then we don't necessarily pay much. I read Slashdot frequently and my $5 worth of tokens has lasted well over a month by now. If you force every channel to fend for itself, you're going to end up with channels that end up pandering to a mass market instead of focusing on a niche. Instead of having 500 channels for $60 a month, you'll end up buying the ten most popular channels for the same price -- and when another channel comes along that you like, the price rises again.
Personally I prefer to use Yahoo Groups as mailing lists, filtered appropriately, by changing my group options to "receive individual messages." I can even respond to posts by e-mail without going through the awful web interface.
Both of those methods will bring you back to the URL listed in the address bar. If you're using a JavaScript application where everything's done with DOM manipulation, your session will return you to the home page / login page of an application where you must let your web browser offer to log you back in.
I still like pluggable authentication modules, virtual memory, and signals -- you know, stuff that's been around for decades that people are only starting to attempt to reimplement in JavaScript.
And when Firefox crashes due to some JavaScript it didn't like, it takes down your mail client, your newsreader, your word processor, and all your other "applications" with it. I wish Firefox would run every window in its own process like IE does; it would make Firefox feel less "snappy" but it would do wonders for crash resistance.
That's true. Google isn't the only company who uses the term "beta" for long periods of time. The article in the summary also mentioned Microsoft and Yahoo! as examples.
Thank you for explaining why Google News doesn't display advertisements. Now explain why Google can't remove the "beta" tag and admit that Google News is a miserable failure.
Google also maintains a cache (non-beta, might I add) which serves up entire web pages that Google keeps on hard drives for as long as it likes -- and if you're a webmaster you have to opt out of the program. The cache is ad-supported inasmuch as it is a part of Google's ad-supported web search. How does Google get away with that?
Google News is in beta because it hasn't been improved in three years. "Beta" doesn't mean that a product is not distributed for profit; it just means that its creator doesn't want to hear griping from its user base.
It lets you play games on the Internet in a centralized, integrated way. Having used both Live and several PS2 online games, I'll take Live any day of the week. With Live, you sign up once and you're set for life*; with the PS2 you have to create an account and log in to every vendor's servers. Live 360 also lets you download free trial versions of games you can buy for a reasonable amount of cash. (I still don't understand how classic games like Gauntlet and Joust ballooned up to 35 MB on Live when their old ROMs are so tiny, though. Can't you d/l the emulator once and the ROMs later?)
* As long as you pay the reasonable fee, of course.
In five years, Slashdot commenters/editors will mock Google the way they mock Yahoo! today. Google will be evil in the eyes of some, there will be zealots who preach both extremes, and there will be other companies (Google cast-offs among their employees) that will be doing the next generation of Cool Stuff.
Slashdot is basically a tech gossip site. If something's not new and fun, it doesn't get attention here.
After the PS3 hits, the Xbox 360 with HD-DVD drive will show up on the market. For $400 it seems like a decent buy to get a good game system coupled with one of the first HD-DVD players. I sure hope I can trade in my UMD movies to get them on HD-DVD!
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BBSes did this more than 10 years ago and UNIX's "w" command does something very similar.
User Doing Logged in
generic-man Playing LORD 15 mins ago
d00d Reading mail 20 mins ago
amigarox Chat 30 mins ago
As a former SysOp, I don't know what the big deal is here.
If I walked into the Apple store intending to buy a PowerBook with a 10-gallon jug full of pennies, I would have received the exact same reaction. The guy was obviously a jackass who wanted to "stick it to the man," and the man stuck it to him hard.
Right. That guy was an ass who got what he wanted: attention.
Best Buy: That'll be $200
Man: OK here's one hundred two-dollar bills
Best Buy: Sorry we can't take that many small bills
Man: Sorry that's all I have
Best Buy: Please pay in another way
Man: No
Best Buy: Please leave
Man: No
Best Buy: Leave now
Man: No I want my purchase
Best Buy: Cops pls
Cops: Please leave now
Man: No
Cops: You are arrested for trespassing
Man: I'm telling the Internet
So in other words, the "comming generation" is to MySpace as our generation is to Geocities. The Internet* survived Geocities; it can survive the "blogosphere"; and it can survive MySpace.
* By which I mean "the group of elitists on the Internet who wish there were literacy and knowledge requirements to use the Internet," also known as "Usenet."
The operative word is standby. You aren't guaranteed to get on a plane with a standby ticket, but you are with a first-class ticket (or a regular coach ticket, of course).
From: generic-man
To: Seumas
Subj: Meeting tomorrow at 5?
Are you free tomorrow at 5?
That's exactly the sort of mentality that keeps Linux off the desktop at companies. Sample question you'll hear at the company-wide mandatory mutt training session:
How do I set up a meeting, viewing everyone's schedules at a glance, reserving an available room and projector, with mutt?
Google's gaming console BETA is a JavaScript engine. Here's Super Mario Bros. in JavaScript.
Good thing December 25 is also the first night of Chanukah! :)
Not many Slashdot users pay for the privilege of subscribing, and even then we don't necessarily pay much. I read Slashdot frequently and my $5 worth of tokens has lasted well over a month by now. If you force every channel to fend for itself, you're going to end up with channels that end up pandering to a mass market instead of focusing on a niche. Instead of having 500 channels for $60 a month, you'll end up buying the ten most popular channels for the same price -- and when another channel comes along that you like, the price rises again.
You're reading it upside down. It's an inside joke to the guy's logic class.
/\!!/\
ViiV ->
"AND!! AND"
They already do that. Here's the RSS feed for a group called "overlib." You don't get the full content of posts, but it's useful for getting notifications of new posts.
Personally I prefer to use Yahoo Groups as mailing lists, filtered appropriately, by changing my group options to "receive individual messages." I can even respond to posts by e-mail without going through the awful web interface.
Both of those methods will bring you back to the URL listed in the address bar. If you're using a JavaScript application where everything's done with DOM manipulation, your session will return you to the home page / login page of an application where you must let your web browser offer to log you back in.
I still like pluggable authentication modules, virtual memory, and signals -- you know, stuff that's been around for decades that people are only starting to attempt to reimplement in JavaScript.
And when Firefox crashes due to some JavaScript it didn't like, it takes down your mail client, your newsreader, your word processor, and all your other "applications" with it. I wish Firefox would run every window in its own process like IE does; it would make Firefox feel less "snappy" but it would do wonders for crash resistance.
All those less-popular channels sure do suck all right. They're only watched by fringe groups like nerds.
That's true. Google isn't the only company who uses the term "beta" for long periods of time. The article in the summary also mentioned Microsoft and Yahoo! as examples.
Thank you for explaining why Google News doesn't display advertisements. Now explain why Google can't remove the "beta" tag and admit that Google News is a miserable failure.
Also, how can Google display the entire text of web pages which it didn't write nor was it explicitly authorized to mirror without "opening themselves up for copyright infringement"?
Psssst! It doesn't matter! Google's not the only company that drags betas on forever; the article also talks extensively about Microsoft!
Google also maintains a cache (non-beta, might I add) which serves up entire web pages that Google keeps on hard drives for as long as it likes -- and if you're a webmaster you have to opt out of the program. The cache is ad-supported inasmuch as it is a part of Google's ad-supported web search. How does Google get away with that?
Google News is a web site which does nothing more than link to other news sources, reproducing tiny portions of a story.
Slashdot is a web site which does nothing more than link to other news sources, reproducing tiny portions of a story and serving ads alongside it.
If Slashdot manages not to get sued, why is Google News stuck in this legal quandary you made up?
Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.
Google Images: no ads. Not beta.
Gmail: Ads. Beta.
Google News: No ads. Beta.
Flickr: Beta. Pro accounts cost money.
Google News is in beta because it hasn't been improved in three years. "Beta" doesn't mean that a product is not distributed for profit; it just means that its creator doesn't want to hear griping from its user base.
It lets you play games on the Internet in a centralized, integrated way. Having used both Live and several PS2 online games, I'll take Live any day of the week. With Live, you sign up once and you're set for life*; with the PS2 you have to create an account and log in to every vendor's servers. Live 360 also lets you download free trial versions of games you can buy for a reasonable amount of cash. (I still don't understand how classic games like Gauntlet and Joust ballooned up to 35 MB on Live when their old ROMs are so tiny, though. Can't you d/l the emulator once and the ROMs later?)
* As long as you pay the reasonable fee, of course.
Please consult the Linux Hardware FAQ.
LINUX HARDWARE FAQ
Q: Does (new, interesting bit of hardware) work in Linux?
A: No. Start writing drivers, you slacker.
In five years, Slashdot commenters/editors will mock Google the way they mock Yahoo! today. Google will be evil in the eyes of some, there will be zealots who preach both extremes, and there will be other companies (Google cast-offs among their employees) that will be doing the next generation of Cool Stuff.
Slashdot is basically a tech gossip site. If something's not new and fun, it doesn't get attention here.
After the PS3 hits, the Xbox 360 with HD-DVD drive will show up on the market. For $400 it seems like a decent buy to get a good game system coupled with one of the first HD-DVD players. I sure hope I can trade in my UMD movies to get them on HD-DVD!