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Smart Mouse with E-Mail and IM Alerts

lilrock writes "CoolTechZone.com takes a look at the world's first smart mouse from Logitech, the MX610, that has e-mail and IM alert buttons. It also has auto turn on/off functionality as well. According to the article, 'All these standard features aside, what has us impressed are the e-mail and IM notification buttons. Though the idea behind them is simple, it's interesting how Logitech comes up with such exclusive features. Basically, you will have to configure the indicators to alert you when you receive an e-mail and/or an IM message from the person of your choice. The buttons will alert you by lighting up, and lead you directly to the message once you press them.' " Because I for one am constantly staring at my mouse when I have a gigantic monitor right in front of me. Cough.

225 comments

  1. Handy with a screen-saver by delphi125 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps some people use screen-savers, but would still like to have a visible indicator of when e-mail arrives?

    1. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by the_unknown_soldier · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A good idea, especially with IM. When you have 20 windows, and you have an msn/whatever window blinking at you annoyingly, having a button that will immediately go to that message sounds handy. It will stop the blinking very quickly! I like it.

    2. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by garcia · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Or are at work and are doing something elsewhere and aren't constantly looking at their screen. Perhaps they hide their taskbar alerts for AIM because they aren't supposed to be using IM clients at work. Their boss might know that a flashing taskbar item is an IM but a flashing mouse button might not be known yet?

      Other than that, I really don't see a use for it myself.

    3. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that would be more appropriate to place on the topside of a keyboard than on the mouse. Most mouses today are optical so there's a 'light' there already.

    4. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by Solra+Bizna · · Score: 1

      If the screen-saver is running, why is the person still at their computer, not to mention staring at the mouse?

      -:sigma.SB

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    5. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 1

      Does it work on a Mac?

      It'd be great if the blinky lights work with MacOS and Adium

    6. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by electronerdz · · Score: 1

      Maybe the person is doing paperwork. Or like me, I walk by my computer all the time. If I had a light that showed me, I could glance at my mouse for it, instead of going up to my computer and moving the mouse, waiting for the screen to turn on and brighten up. I think it is a good idea for email. A stupid idea for IM. I mean, it is only tied to one person? What if you were using Gaim, and had tabbed windows, where it could light up if any of them change and go to that window/tab. Not that it is going to work in Linux anyway.

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    7. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by EpsCylonB · · Score: 2, Insightful

      they should make it vibrate or something, maybe not vibrate that could interfere slighty with what you are doing but it could give off some touch sensory feedback

    8. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by aussie_a · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually (despite the unethicality of IMing at work when not allowed) you bring up a good point. People who play games often don't see the IM window (and having those pop-ups for everyone is annoying when trying to play a game). But if you get IM'd specifically by a person you want to talk with, you can stop the game.

      Having said that, it would make more sense for IM programs to add this functionality. A mouse is reaching a bit.

    9. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I have sounds for that. Personalized "ring-tones" attached to my contact list even. Usually good email plays a Klingon yellow alert, worthy email plays a Klingon red alert (and true warrior email blasts through my firewall, and slays my spam filters in personal combat...) Announcing email with mice would be dishonourable!

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    10. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Wait you can see your mouse?

      Mine get's put into the keyboard drawer, and with touch typing I barely even look at the keyboard and mouse , That's what the screen is for.

      Besides That's why my email notifier makes a noise, and my IM client reads IM's to me. So I don't have to pay attention to just one sreen at a time.

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    11. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by Dashing+Leech · · Score: 0
      "If the screen-saver is running..."

      Does anybody actually use screen-savers anymore with LCD screens? OK, some people still use CRTs, including me as a second monitor. But if someone still hasn't updated their monitor to "modern" technology, are they going to update their mouse? Who is the target audience?

    12. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      Who is the target audience?

      People with too much money to spend and not enough brains to spend it on something worthwhile. So I guess your average American fits at least one of the criterias ;)

    13. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      If they did that, I know people who'd like to get IM'd all the time! A whole new facet of netsex.

    14. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by Fusen · · Score: 1

      You say modern technology as if it's better, yet for performance and price reasons CRT is clearly the way to go

    15. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by flyingsquid · · Score: 1
      Or are at work and are doing something elsewhere and aren't constantly looking at their screen. Perhaps they hide their taskbar alerts for AIM because they aren't supposed to be using IM clients at work. Their boss might know that a flashing taskbar item is an IM but a flashing mouse button might not be known yet?

      Odds are, if you need to sit down and think hard to come up with circumstances where a new feature would be useful... it's not really all that useful.

    16. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by netsharc · · Score: 1

      Great idea! I think we know what Logitech will come up with next: a mouse that can play sound files!

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    17. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by larien · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I often come out of a full-screen game and find some IM messages which I hadn't seen... it's a pain and this kind of mouse would help me out with this...

    18. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 1

      The mouse or the flashing taskbar? Because I know that the flashing taskbar works fine in GAIM (but you need to enable it)

    19. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Who's using a screensaver on a CRT? The power saving function is good enough and turning the monitor off when you don't need it works even better.

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    20. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by bolo1729 · · Score: 1

      However, when a feature like this becomes popular, or at least known to the bosses, it will actually be easier for them to track down IM users. It is easier to notice a blinking mouse, than it is to to notice a blinking icon somewhere on the screen.

      My bet is, the mouse might be useful at night, when one works with lights out: the flashing button will be noticed even without looking at it.

    21. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by Ours · · Score: 2

      I've been using my keyboard's Scroll-lock LED for that purpose for a year now. When it blinks, I know I have e-mail. No need for fancy-pantsy mouse.

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    22. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by JonLatane · · Score: 4, Funny
      they should make it vibrate or something

      I can see the IM conversations now.

      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: do you like it?
      SexyMomma45: yes, yes, faster faster!
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      SexyMomma45: FASTER!!!!
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      DesperateMale1234: 1
      **You have been disconnected from the AIM network for abuse.
    23. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by tacocat · · Score: 1

      So... you sit in front of your computer starting at flying toasters waiting for someone to talk to you?

      Pathetic...

    24. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's only pathetic if you talk to the toasters and they ignore you.

      "What's that? Kill them all you say? By your command...."

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    25. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Off-topic, slightly...but I have an LCD monitor at work with "burn-out" a-la CRT! Infact, it's the quickest I've ever seen this on any monitor (only 6 months old). It was the source of embarrassment for me, as I insisted to my boss that it was not possible and that he was paranoid.

      LCD monitors are clearly not immune to the phenomenon.

    26. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Other than that, I really don't see a use for it myself."

      I dunno if I'm going to rush out and buy one, but I wouldn't mind having this particular mouse. I frequently walk past my desk and have a quick look to see if I have any messages. Since my monitor goes off after 20 minutes or so, I have to wiggle the mouse to get it back. If the mouse (or the keyboard) were to blink when I recieved a message, it'd save me that little step.

      I agree with the 'ho-hum' feelings towards it, but I wouldn't say it's useless.

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    27. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by znu · · Score: 1

      On OS X I just set up my IM client to use text-to-speech to announce sign-ons. So if I'm off playing UT or whatever, I still know when someone I want to talk to shows up.

      Actually, an indicator on the mouse would be completely useless to me. I have my machine on one of those computer desks with a slide-out keyboard/mouse tray, but I don't actually bother to slide it out; I leave it all the way in under the desk. As a result, I can't even see the keyboard or mouse.

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    28. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by emmaussmith · · Score: 1

      But, what "activities" at night in a dark room would I want to stop to have an IM with someone...

      I mean, you gotta have priorities.

    29. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by shellbeach · · Score: 2

      Perhaps some people use screen-savers, but would still like to have a visible indicator of when e-mail arrives?

      Except that these days most laptops have a dedicated mail led, and for those using desktops there's always the scroll-lock led free and available ... This is just a christmas gimmick, really.

    30. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by fractalrock · · Score: 1

      Too funny.

    31. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      AIM has the ability to set an audio file to play or a popup window to show when certain "buddies" come online.

    32. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by CableModemSniper · · Score: 1

      1) Screen Savers make pretty pictures
      2) I can have have a password for when I walk away from my computer.

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    33. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by leifm · · Score: 1

      It would seem unlikely to me that a workplace that forbids IM would allow you to carry in your own hardware, especially stuff like this.

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    34. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by NaDrew · · Score: 1

      Hey, how'd you get my IM log?

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    35. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by FlippyTheSkillsaw · · Score: 1
      A good idea, especially with IM. When you have 20 windows, and you have an msn/whatever window blinking at you annoyingly, having a button that will immediately go to that message sounds handy. It will stop the blinking very quickly! I like it.
      Yeah, because most people who read slashdot have clean desk to move the IM and email notifications to.

      Maybe they should have put a vibration unit in it, along the lines of a vibrating pager/phone. A speaker would be good, too.

      Heads this way and we're going to have a second monitor built into the mouse, though I do think it would be a good thing to have a low-power secondary ui device, whether it's a black and white LED-lit display or a series of low-resolution LCD panels like you'd find on an old graphing calculator.
    36. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by munpfazy · · Score: 1

      If you're a linux user, check out ixbiff:

      http://ixbiff.sourceforge.net/

      It maps keyboard LEDS to mail directories.

      Pretty handy, at least if you use your scroll-lock LED to check on your scroll lock status as often as I do.

    37. Re:Handy with a screen-saver by TheBunk · · Score: 1

      Miranda-IM has a plug in called Keyboard Flasher, which after you drill down to things allows you to set up your three keyboard leds to flash upon the receipt of a message. Been using it for a while, and I love it.

  2. Useful if it has a long range by Tango42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Because I for one am constantly staring at my mouse when I have a gigantic monitor right in front of me.

    As long as it has a long enough range, it could be useful to just take your mouse with you when you go away from the computer - to work on some paper based thing, prehaps.

    1. Re:Useful if it has a long range by walders · · Score: 1
      Because I for one am constantly staring at my mouse when I have a gigantic monitor right in front of me.

      This mouse will be useful for those of us who have screensavers. I currently have nothing that will log out of my screensaver to alert me of email/IM.
    2. Re:Useful if it has a long range by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you go to work on paper based things, do you really want to be alerted of every incoming e-mail/IM?

    3. Re:Useful if it has a long range by Tango42 · · Score: 1

      You might do. Not everyone wuold all the time, certainly, but there are plenty of situations where it would be useful.

      Prehaps you're doing some paperwork while you wait for someone to reply to your email so you can carry on with something else, so want instant notification.

    4. Re:Useful if it has a long range by berck · · Score: 1

      What, like a speaker?

    5. Re:Useful if it has a long range by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The mouse I'm using (bought by someone else) has multi-coloured LEDs in it, and a partially translucent shell. The colours slowly and constantly cycle through while the mouse is plugged in. It is quite noticeable when I am staring at the screen, and in fact it quite annoys me because one of the tones is the same as the colour the lights on my phone flash when it rings, so on a number of occasions I have been distracted by the thought that my phone is ringing.

      I don't like the idea that the buttons change function though - I can think of nothing more annoying than when I'm about to click something and I suddenly find my email opening instead!

    6. Re:Useful if it has a long range by Tango42 · · Score: 1

      "I don't like the idea that the buttons change function though - I can think of nothing more annoying than when I'm about to click something and I suddenly find my email opening instead!"

      They're different buttons...

  3. I'll bite by markdavis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, I'll bite to be the first: "But does it work in Linux?" :)

    It does sound like a great idea, especially if the LED is very bright. Right now, I wrote some scripts to play sounds at intervals when important Email messages come in. But sometimes it can be much more annoying than a nice LED.

    Every time you think the mouse is a dead deal, somehow Logitech does come up with something new and useful. And I will admit that I was one of those "what the hell is with this scroll wheel crap" people. And after a few months of using it, you would have to rip it from my cold, dying, RSI hands to get it away from me!

    1. Re:I'll bite by takeya · · Score: 1

      I'm sure it could work in Linux with enough work ;)

      I think this mouse is more of a novelty than a miracle. My computer already has the capacity to flash my Numlock, Capslock and Scrollock lights if I recieve an email or IM (I've only seen a few apps that take advantage of this), so a visual alert is readily available in most applications. It seems that Logitech is doing something very evolutionary here.

      I've been happy with my Logitech dual optical mouse for over 3 years now, it's never failed me once, and it doesn't even check for new mail.

    2. Re:I'll bite by generic-man · · Score: 5, Funny

      Please consult the Linux Hardware FAQ.

      LINUX HARDWARE FAQ

      Q: Does (new, interesting bit of hardware) work in Linux?
      A: No. Start writing drivers, you slacker.

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    3. Re:I'll bite by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      OK, I'll bite to be the first: "But does it work in Linux?" :)

      I know this has become a "joke" (and I use the term very loosely) here at slashdot, but the company most likely did a cost-profit anaylsis, and decided against providing Linux drivers. Until Linux gets more mainstream usage at the home, you can't expect everything to run in Linux. Until then, you'll have to continue to write your own drivers.

    4. Re:I'll bite by Council · · Score: 1

      On the computer I'm using right now, the mouse and keyboard are both out-of-sight in the tray. And I can't imagine looking at my mouse frequently while I'm using it.

      However, having it flash while I'm across the room could be worthwhile, so I wouldn't have to have the screen on to check basic stuff like that. Still, seems marginally useful to me.

      However, someone (jokingly) mentioned vibration. This seems like a really good idea to me, using more human input channels, with the one drawback that I bet a vibrating mouse is much harder to steer.

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    5. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would a driver for this mouse have to be placed in the kernel?
      That would limit the possibilities that a driver, if written, would
      be adopted. The mouse, then, would just be a three-button scrolling mouse at best.

    6. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, this guy can touch type. But he's a freak of nature according to Logitech who, if they believed the average dummy could learn to type by feel, could do a heck of a lot better than a button that lights up for incoming email.

      Isn't that kind of pathetic? Why not a one-hand chording keyboard/mouse/game controller combo?

  4. After a respecifiaction of the mouse by Hinhule · · Score: 5, Funny

    It now features a vibration instead of a light altert.

    In other news, female use of computers up 500%.

    1. Re:After a respecifiaction of the mouse by newell98 · · Score: 1, Informative

      You laugh, but I have a friend that recently bought a new cellphone because the new one "vibrates harder then my last one"

    2. Re:After a respecifiaction of the mouse by loakers · · Score: 0

      RFLmAO aww, caught me off guard on that one

    3. Re:After a respecifiaction of the mouse by Hinhule · · Score: 1

      Didn't listen to your perfectly logical response "I can vibrate" eh ;)

      I bet the conversation ended with "Call you later" too.

      (Sorry)

    4. Re:After a respecifiaction of the mouse by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Mod an iBuzz

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    5. Re:After a respecifiaction of the mouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You laugh, but does anyone remember the Logitech Ifeel?

    6. Re:After a respecifiaction of the mouse by linzeal · · Score: 1

      My ex-gf had hers tucked into her ass tight jeans and had actually distended the right pocket shoving it pretty darn close to the her glory hole. What is funny that most people who were calling her were her parents and relatives.

  5. API? by klingens · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Basically, you will have to configure the indicators to alert you when you receive an e-mail and/or an IM message from the person of your choice.

    And the $100 question is: will Logitech give out the API of this new feature freely, or will it be only usable with their "special" drivers in the latest Windows version du jour? Probably only with Outlook Express and MSN too.

    I have yet to see Logitech software that doesn't suck, and I never ever bought another mouse than a Logitech one. Good hardware, godawful software. Kinda like the stuff from MS come to think of it :)

  6. Where's the pr0n button? by scolby · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now that would be innovative.

    1. Re:Where's the pr0n button? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, I was gonna post something about the inevitable threads that were gonna pop up on this one.

      1) What I want is something simpler, not more complicated -- there are two many flashing and blinking things ruining my concentration already!
      2) Who in their right mind would design yet another interface type to deliver the same message?
      3) But can I make it work with linux?

      But the porn angle is always better. I'll form a company to take seed money for the following much needed productivity enhancement:

      The iPawed Onano pr0n keyboard and mouse!

      Features:
      1) Wireless connectivity
      2) keyboard optimized for one handed-operation
      3) 5-button sidescrolling optical mouse glides over the stickiest surfaces and still tracks your movements
      4) variable mouse sensitivity: seamlessly switch between sweeping movements and sniper precision.
      5) optional mouse vibrate keeps you in the game.
      6) Membrane keyboard for her pleasure
      7) 15 context-sensitive present keys with handy icons depicting the acts involved.
      8) additional keycap kits available: Hentai, BDSM, Fetish, and "Barnyard" schemes.
      9) "Boss" button clears the desktop and loads harmless "Tubgirl" image.
      10) 2 Fully powered USB ports on keyboard for attaching additional functionality.

  7. functionality should cease by anarcho_geek · · Score: 1

    perhaps a vibrator functionality is near? anyway, i dont see the point because i never stay up at night staring for that annoying little blue square in the corner. sometimes, a mouse should just be a mouse

    1. Re:functionality should cease by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would end in misuse like with cell phones.

    2. Re:functionality should cease by anarcho_geek · · Score: 1

      oh, don't even get me started on cell phone "toys". strange at best

  8. Spam? by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is someone spamming from CoolTechZone.com and gets accepted?

    The last two stories from CTZ were probably posted by the same user under different names, but what is common in both users is that they both specified http://slashdot.org/ as url (when clicking on their nicks). I don't think it's too far fetched to assume that someone is spamming with the intention to post inflammatory/poorly written stories to /. to drive ad revenue, apart from the editors of course.

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    1. Re:Spam? by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's too far fetched to assume that someone is spamming with the intention to post inflammatory/poorly written stories to /. to drive ad revenue, apart from the editors of course.

      Yes, but which editors are doing it? The CTZ ones, or the slashdot ones? Or perhaps in a crazy co-incidence, both? Slashdot benefits from controversial articles that piss off the readers, because angry readers post. Hell, they've done a pretty half-ass job with this one, and already they've gotten two extra posts from it.

    2. Re:Spam? by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

      Not just that, but a few years ago I got a free unknown-brand mouse with my order which already had an indicator for mail. Back then I found it a stupid feature and put the mouse with the others in case some user needed a spare one.
      This is far from something new.

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    3. Re:Spam? by squoozer · · Score: 1

      Don't we all...

      Visit this super hyper mega ultra amazing site!!!!!.

      Such is life when you try and eek out a living on line.

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    4. Re:Spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...they both specified http://slashdot.org/ as url (when clicking on their nicks). I don't think it's too far fetched to assume that someone is spamming with the intention to post inflammatory/poorly written stories..."

      If the website that people have set is any indication of what kind of person they are, one would have to come to the conclusion that since you have set www.cyberarmy.net as your website of choice, you're just a retarded script kiddie.

      Think before you speak.

    5. Re:Spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought exactly the same thing regarding that last idiotic article about windows "outselling" linux from CoolTechZone.com.

      The thing that made me think otherwise at the time is that i didn't see any advertising banners, etc. on their site when i browsed to the article last time, so i didn't see a payoff for them.

    6. Re:Spam? by sharpestmarble · · Score: 1

      Don't know whether or not I'm right, but...

      How do we know that the slashdot editors aren't giving them a homepage because those users don't have one? Does the slash code do that? Can the editors do that.

      'Course, you could have hit the nail right on the head, too.

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  9. Screen Savers? by Voltageaav · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Who cares about the people who still use screen savers? They probably still have those prnters where the paper has the holes on the side and the actual "floppy" disc drives too.

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    1. Re:Screen Savers? by Digi-John · · Score: 1

      I use a screensaver to lock my computer when I'm away--XScreensaver does the job nicely.

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    2. Re:Screen Savers? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Along with turning off the monitor an hour after you're gone, the electricity saved and the life of the monitor extended easily let you save up your money for your next new monitor.

    3. Re:Screen Savers? by Digi-John · · Score: 1

      Yeah. I've had this monitor for over three years now and it is still working as well as the day I bought it--when it finally gives up the ghost, I'll have had my money's worth. Maybe by then LCDs will be cheap enough that I'll consider getting one of them. Currently, I'm not willing to spend $200+ for a 17" LCD when I can get a 19" CRT for around $100--I'm a college student, gotta save the money. Maybe RIT will throw out some nice monitors one of these days...

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    4. Re:Screen Savers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I've got an IBM printer. An InfoPrint 3000, actually...
      I don't think there's a floppy drive on the RS6000 in that printer, but my trusty old IBM 6262 has a floppy drive...the same that was used in the original PS/2.

  10. Could Use the buttons for other stuff, if only by putko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although the article makes fun of the output LEDs/buttons, that isn't such a bad thing; if you could make them do what you want, it would be really neat. Especially for someone who does system administration, who needs to somehow prioritize various distractions.

    However, I went to logitech's site and discovered the following:

    They don't provide (at least I can't find it) details on how to talk to the mouse to use the buttons/LEDs for input/output. You have to use their "SetPoint" software, which only works under Windows. And maybe it doesn't work the way you want it to.

    So the mouse can't be used for other systems, and you can't program the mouse to work the way that you want it to work. Which is too bad.

    Even if Logitech provided "open source" software, that wouldn't help folks who want to really use the hardware for neat things -- they need the technical specs that the "SetPoint" authors used to make the software work in the first place.

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    http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_s tone_your_children/dt21_18a.html
    1. Re:Could Use the buttons for other stuff, if only by ThJ · · Score: 3, Funny

      I bet this is just the hardware engineers at Logitech going: - Hmm... Jake, we got two I/O pins free on our MCU. - You don't say... - Maybe we could hook something up to them? - No? Why? - Aw, come on! A pair of flashing LEDs. - Ooooh, LEDs... *drool*

    2. Re:Could Use the buttons for other stuff, if only by dianebrat · · Score: 1

      heck.. it would be nice if it even worked reliably IN WINDOWS!

      I have it and love it for the volume and mute function buttons, but the LED notifications were a nice plus, but they only work occasionally at best, and only with "approved software" so by using Trillian the IM LED is always dark.

      They really shot themselves in the foot having no configuration on the LEDs.

  11. Another intrusion by keraneuology · · Score: 1
    Several efficiency/organization experts have pointed out that email and IMs tend to be overused and abused: they tend to take the highest human IRQ and are constantly interrupting whatever else it is that you are doing. This little device can only further the problem.

    At the office it took some convincing but I finally managed to talk some people into setting their email poll to once every 30-60 minutes to give them time to finish one task before another task started up. They all report being much happier.

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  12. *Blink blink* by newell98 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because you can NEVER have enough blinking lights :P

    Seriously though, I doubt the software requires that much overhead, and the extra feedback could be usefull to some people. Personally I won't be buying one, but I can imagine that some people might find it handy.

    1. Re:*Blink blink* by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Funny
      Because you can NEVER have enough blinking lights :P
      http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM

      Now if we could only program the mouse to play Transiberian Orchestra's "Wizards in Winter"
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    2. Re:*Blink blink* by prichardson · · Score: 1

      I don't think we should program anything to play ANYTHING by Trabsiberian Orchestra.

      They fucking suck.

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  13. Where is RSS button? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    How about RSS?

  14. All we need now... by confusion · · Score: 2, Funny

    are some volume buttons and a treo style keyboard on the top of the mouse, and we can ditch the traditional keyboard altogether.

    Jerry
    http://www.cyvin.org/

    1. Re:All we need now... by ClamIAm · · Score: 2, Funny

      And then you can attach another, smaller mouse onto the first one for when you just need a mouse.

    2. Re:All we need now... by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      jst sv spc b rmvng vwls pncttn nmbrs nd mdfr ks

  15. Did they even test one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Unless the performance is truly horrendous on this mouse, which we doubt, this could very well be another successful product from Logitech"

    so...did they even test one? have they ever even seen one other than a picture? from the sound of things no. how do you review something you've never even used? oh wait...i know...logitech sent them a check.

  16. Useless, for the most part. by rspress · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My mouse could be neon green with 60 flashing lights on it and I would never notice it. I just went to the AT&T natural voice site and created a few female voice messages with the text I typed in to alert me of mail from certain people or business. Since she has an English accent it is different from my regular computer voice. I am using OS X so I just create a mail rule that will color the background of the message and then play the sound file for that person. Since I leave mail running in the background most of the day I will always know when I get an email from a person that I know, even if I am not looking at the computer.

  17. Less buttons and a bigger mouse please by foldedspace · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hey, Logitech! I'm a big guy with big paws. How about making a wired optical mouse with two buttons and one wheel that's about 50% larger than every mouse you currently make? These little buttons all over the sides and top just get in the way. I have the MX310 and it would be great if it was bigger and had 3 less buttons. You could make two or three sizes of the same thing and sell more mice that way. You know, instead of tacking on more garb... er um... features.

    Also, opaque plastic please. The old optical mice with the translucent plastic were annoying. Loud colors are wasted on me too.

    1. Re:Less buttons and a bigger mouse please by aussie_a · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, Logitech! I'm a big guy with big paws. How about making a wired optical mouse with two buttons and one wheel that's about 50% larger than every mouse you currently make?

      Why don't you just amputate your hands and get prosthetics? Sheeesh. People always expect companies to do all the work for them. People should get out of their chair and do something themself for once. Hell, I'm going to head over to your place right now and chop off your hands myself.

    2. Re:Less buttons and a bigger mouse please by grumling · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding? They can't even make an ergonomic mouse for people who are left handed. And it seems that people want mice with so many buttons that you can't move it without hitting something, at least that's all you see at Best Bye and Circuit Chitty anymore. Hopefully, they'll still keep the basic soap type wheelmouse for some time.

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    3. Re:Less buttons and a bigger mouse please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      For large hands and/or left handed mouse users who need to use terminal services clients to log in as administrator (and don't want to change the mouse control panel on the servers to mess up their co-workers), we've been having good luck with Contour Perfit mice.

      I personally love having both a middle button (for "open in a new tab" in FireFox) and a scroll wheel, although it did take a while to get used to using the thumb to scroll.

      I find I can pretty much ignore the forward/back rocker switch below the thumb, only occasionally triggering it by mistake in a program that listens to it.

    4. Re:Less buttons and a bigger mouse please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      all of them, or just the one?

    5. Re:Less buttons and a bigger mouse please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/less/fewer/

    6. Re:Less buttons and a bigger mouse please by Proc6 · · Score: 1
      Hey, Logitech! I'm a big guy with big paws.

      Well, there are other alternatives.

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    7. Re:Less buttons and a bigger mouse please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just make your own healthy food, for hackers and slackers alike.

    8. Re:Less buttons and a bigger mouse please by foldedspace · · Score: 1

      That was modded higher than my post and marked funny? He threatened me with violence and he gets modded up? I'm not taking the threat seriously, but no threat should ever be modded up!

      And to the idiot that suggested I need to lose weight. My hands are not fat. They're big from working with things like yard implements, dumbells and hammers and such. I'm also over 6'2" tall. Idiot.

      I suggested that Logitech make a larger mouse with fewer buttons, and because of my choice of words I get threatened and attacked? I'm going to stay away from this site for a while.

  18. Why the mouse ? by stud9920 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why the fuck would you want you fucking mouse to do this ? A mouse is there for interactivity in a GUI, or more generally to represent the analogy between hand movements and virtual movements.

    Why should the mouse ever check for email ? I have a programamble computer to do things like that.

    This is the worst case of slashvertisement ever ! I'm sad I'm not a subscriber so I could ask my money back !

    1. Re:Why the mouse ? by aussie_a · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Why the fuck would you want you fucking mouse to do this ? A mouse is there for interactivity in a GUI, or more generally to represent the analogy between hand movements and virtual movements.

      I never knew talking about mice could be so arousing... wait. That came out wrong...

    2. Re:Why the mouse ? by beuges · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree. If they really want to have their input devices provide feedback based on new mail, IM's etc, then surely a better device would be the keyboard?

      Almost every new keyboard I've seen already has a row of about 10 buttons at the top as shortcuts to email, etc. I would think an LED behind each shortcut button would make more sense - if you have new mail, the email shortcut would light up, and so on. Especially since the keyboard is generally directly below the monitor, and so is usually within your peripheral vision, even if you dont look at the keyboard as you type. My mouse is usually completely out of sight, and hardly used.

  19. *yawn* by SCHecklerX · · Score: 1

    who looks down at their mouse anyway? In the past, my mail server used to sit beneath my stereo anyway, so I just ran one of the keyboard LED programs you can easily find with a little bit of searching to see how many messages I had in my inbox when I got home. The server, of course, was headless. What I did was rip the logic board out of an old keyboard, drill some holes in a front drive bay panel, plug the 'keyboard' into the back of the computer using another hole drilled in the back, and voila..instant status lights on a budget. I used the other two for network traffic (the mail server happened to also be my firewall).

    http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=mail+led&section=pr ojects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

  20. Its for powersaving by jlebrech · · Score: 3, Informative

    So you know vital details, like you got spam when your screen has blacked out.

  21. Yuck by beforewisdom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only who dosen't want email or IM alerts?

    1. Re:Yuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So use one of the thousands of other mice out there that DON'T.

    2. Re:Yuck by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Ye s

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    3. Re:Yuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Am I the only who dosen't want email or IM alerts?"

      I think it's a bad idea too. I can just see the outcome of these things now: people unable to get work done because their e-mail/IM light keeps comming on every minute, and they absolutely have to surrender to the compulsion of checking their inbox just to find out it was only spam.

      These things could kill productivity as we know it.

    4. Re:Yuck by Chubby_C · · Score: 1
      I think that you are not the only one

      The mouse I have now is the Logitech Mx1000, this has everything that I would need from a mouse: cordless, good battery life, excellent tracking, tilt/scroll wheel, speed scrolling, back and forward buttons, and application switch.

      I don't need any more novelties on my mouse.

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    5. Re:Yuck by CyricZ · · Score: 1

      I didn't know that you suffered from impotency, Hal! I suffer from it, too.

      We should start a Slashdot Impotency Support Group. It could be a club for us men who suffer from soft cock.

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  22. Surprisingly Effective - With a catch by grimsweep · · Score: 4, Informative

    I picked up a MX610 to replace a mouse that just didn't meet my needs. Specifically, I wanted a mouse with plenty of programmable buttons that didn't require me to move my hand position.

    I'm surprised at how well the blinking catches my attention. When I'm using my laptop in class, a meeting, or the library, audio indicators are out of the question. On-screen indicators are great, but unless they're persistent, I often miss them. The MX610 does a decent job of letting me know I recieved an IM or an e-mail.

    The drawback? It's currently exclusive to M$ applications with no mention of further support. I have to use MSN messenger to talk to some of my friends, but I can't stand Outlook. >:(

    1. Re:Surprisingly Effective - With a catch by MooUK · · Score: 1

      There's always alternative MSNm clients availble, remember...

  23. Boycott This Device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until they make available ones for LEFTIES.
    We make up approx 10% of the population.
    How do they expect us to use the buttons on the side?
    Pah!

  24. Mac OS X... by VaticDart · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Does it work with Mac OS X?

    Oh wait, I don't care. Because both the email (Mail) and IM program (Adium) I use have nicely unobtrusive but conspicuous alerts in the Dock when a new message comes in. Adium also uses Growl notifications, if you want them.

    I'm a big fan of Logitech devices, but this sounds like a really bad idea. Between the fact that most people generally cover most of the mouse with their hand, and the simple fact that a mouse is not there to be looked at, I seriously think Logitech engineers may have been smoking something leafy when they came up with this one... lights man...

  25. Oh, come on. by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    As long as it has a long enough range, it could be useful to just take your mouse with you when you go away from the computer

    You and I both know that this is yet another attempt to get around M$'s single screen interface. Because M$ has yet to make virtual desktops work, most people don't have it and suffer desktop congestion. A brave few have ventured into the expensive world of dual monitors, but they are still limited to the screen space and that's not enough for them. Others, such as Nvidia, have done the right thing and made virtual desktops but the last time I saw one it was slow and crash prone as you can expect anything M$ wants to be "first" with. This goofy mouse is just another attempt to gain useful space. On any system using X and a decent window manager, you can get a popup for your IM and email and it works. On Winblows, the pop up might not rise to the top and could be lost in the congestion if it did. That's the reason they made this thing.

    --

    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

    1. Re:Oh, come on. by Voltageaav · · Score: 1

      I just use my 32" HDTV as my monitor and use my wireless keyboard and mouse while sitting on my couch. It gives me plenty of extra screen space. ;)

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    2. Re:Oh, come on. by evilneko · · Score: 1

      If you mean virtual desktops as in those provided by VirtuaWin for windows or the pager applet that's in practically every Linux desktop environment, then yeah, those are useful.
      That thing in E16, on the other hand, where you move the mouse to the edge and suddenly you get another desktop (without changing the pager..)... that's annoying as hell. I forgot what it was called. I disabled it as soon as I figured out which feature was causing that. :P
      VirtuaWin, btw, is stable, fast, and small. It may not offer fancy things like changing wallpapers on the other desktops, but is that really necessary? And I think there may be a plugin for that anyway...

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    3. Re:Oh, come on. by twitter · · Score: 1
      If you mean virtual desktops as in those provided by VirtuaWin for windows or the pager applet that's in practically every Linux desktop environment, then yeah, those are useful.

      Hey, what a nice workaround. It's amazing how random programmers can do a better job with windoze than Microsoft can. If Microsoft were free software, it might catch up to the Linux world in five to ten years. The question then would be why anyone would bother trying to fix all the underlying problems that give the system a 12 minute halflife on any network when they have a free system that works now.

      That thing in E16, on the other hand, where you move the mouse to the edge and suddenly you get another desktop (without changing the pager..)... that's annoying as hell.

      Increase your edge resistance and you will like it. Being able to slide programs off to the side without messing with a pager is very nice when it does not backfire often. Being able to move from one desktop to another quickly by mousing makes your desktop space more continuous feeling.

      You might also look into other cool e16 features. Their pager has yet to be matched, with very fast movement of thumbnails from one space to another. Between that and iconboxes, all of your running programs are at easy reach. Compare that to M$'s shitty little icon bar which gives you lots of tiny icons that are impossible to tell apart and have no space to open.

      VirtuaWin, btw, is stable, fast, and small. It may not offer fancy things like changing wallpapers on the other desktops, but is that really necessary?

      No, but it's easy to implement so why not? Having different backgrounds for different desktops gives me one more visual clue to where I left my work.

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      Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

    4. Re:Oh, come on. by evilneko · · Score: 1

      I'll have to give it a shot next time I have time to sit and tweak my linux box's yet-mostly-unused gui.

      No, but it's easy to implement so why not? Having different backgrounds for different desktops gives me one more visual clue to where I left my work.

      I think there's a plug in for it.

      Being able to slide programs off to the side without messing with a pager is very nice when it does not backfire often. Being able to move from one desktop to another quickly by mousing makes your desktop space more continuous feeling.

      I -think- VirtuaWin may have this already--I haven't used it in a while, been using bblean on my Windows machine. bblean has multiple desktops, so no need for virtuawin. VirtuaWin can switch desktops (don't know about dragging apps tho) by mousing as well, with or without a hotkey held down. I used to use shift, then move the mouse to the edge. It prevented any accidental switching.

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    5. Re:Oh, come on. by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      Microsoft has virtual desktops as of XP PowerTools, a free download from microsoft.com.
      I'd take dual monitors over virtual desktops any day though, as virtual desktops completely hide a window. If I'm not using it nor monitoring it for updates, why does it matter where it is? Dualies is the way to go, keep irc/aim/what have you on one monitor and game/a movie on the other, easily monitor stuff like this.

      On a related note I had the same idea re: notification when I got my Razer Diamondback that has a blue LED in it-- I thought they should use a multicolor LED and have the driver change color based on stuff like getting an im, or whatever else might want to notify you.

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    6. Re:Oh, come on. by cbreaker · · Score: 1

      Pfft. I use my Sharp 45" Aquos - LC-45GX6U @ 1920x1080@60Hz non interlaced. Unfortunately, it still gives me 120 less vertical pixels then the 23" HP monitor.. But it's fun to play counter strike on.

      Do you have the Gyration mouse? I got one some time ago and it's a really neat toy for when you're sitting on the couch. If not, check it out, it's the coolest mouse and it works as a normal mouse when you put it down on a flat surface too. The matching keyboard is cool too.

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    7. Re:Oh, come on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Moderators: Please note that "twitter" is a known fanatical sycophant whose obnoxious offtopic rants are legend here on Slashdot. It doesn't matter what the topic is, he'll find a way to scrape in some pointless Microsoft bashing. While nobody expects us to love Microsoft in any way, his particularly tepid style of calling anyone he replies to "troll" or "liar" or "fanboy" because he happens to disagree with whatever they're saying is well documented and should not be rewarded. If anything, twitter is the type of person that should not be part of the open source/free software community. He is an anathema to all that is good about free software.

      I'm posting this so that you (the moderator) have some context to consider twitter and not mod him up whenever he posts his filler preformatted rants about installing Knoppix or Mepis or whatever that unfortunately get him karma every single time and allow him to continue posting his trademark toxic crap (read on) day in and day out. You may consider this a troll - I consider it community service. And I ain't kidding.

      If you're a /. subscriber, I invite you to look through some of his posting history. I guarantee that you'll be hard pressed to find someone that is more "out there" than twitter. You'll also probably notice he's got quite an AC following. Don't just read his posts, make sure you go through the replies.

      To get an idea of what I'm talking about, check this post out. This is an article about email disclaimers. The parent of the post is complaining about the ads in the linked page and so on, and twitter actually goes off on a rant to blame it on Microsoft and recommend Lynx, because "is teh free".

      Here's another. In this post twitter not only calls the OP a troll but attempts to "tell it like it is" while making some vague argument about "GNU". Yes, if you're confused, you're not alone. The reply (modded +4) proceeds to simply destroy his bogus argument. You will notice he did not reply. This is what some people call "drive-by advocacy". A sort of I'll just leave you with my thoughts here and move on to the next flamebait kind of deal. In fact, he almost never replies because he knows that his fanatical arguments simply do not hold up to any sort of discussion. It's not that he's chosen the wrong cause - he's just going at it in a completely wrong way.

      Here's that drive-by advocacy and FUD in motion: twitter goes on about some topic and then drops the usual "oh and M$ is teh evil" because "WMP phones home" or some such. Called on his FUD, he then claims that WMP stores every song and movie you've ever played in a file, somewhere. Pressed further, he just sort of slithers out of sight, his FUD-spreading complete. This is not about some Microsoft technology that nobody likes anyway; it's about lying for the sake of lying. Way too many of his posts are exactly like this one.

      More? Just read though this post and the subsequent replies. I guess this stands on its own. Or these two. Or this one. Or this one.

      Still not convinced? This is what twitter considers "humour" while going about his daily "M$" routine.

      M

    8. Re:Oh, come on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Moderators: Please note that "twitter" is a known fanatical sycophant whose obnoxious offtopic rants are legend here on Slashdot. It doesn't matter what the topic is, he'll find a way to scrape in some pointless Microsoft bashing. While nobody expects us to love Microsoft in any way, his particularly tepid style of calling anyone he replies to "troll" or "liar" or "fanboy" because he happens to disagree with whatever they're saying is well documented and should not be rewarded. If anything, twitter is the type of person that should not be part of the open source/free software community. He is an anathema to all that is good about free software.

      I'm posting this so that you (the moderator) have some context to consider twitter and not mod him up whenever he posts his filler preformatted rants about installing Knoppix or Mepis or whatever that unfortunately get him karma every single time and allow him to continue posting his trademark toxic crap (read on) day in and day out. You may consider this a troll - I consider it community service. And I ain't kidding.

      If you're a /. subscriber, I invite you to look through some of his posting history. I guarantee that you'll be hard pressed to find someone that is more "out there" than twitter. You'll also probably notice he's got quite an AC following. Don't just read his posts, make sure you go through the replies.

      To get an idea of what I'm talking about, check this post out. This is an article about email disclaimers. The parent of the post is complaining about the ads in the linked page and so on, and twitter actually goes off on a rant to blame it on Microsoft and recommend Lynx, because "is teh free".

      Here's another. In this post twitter not only calls the OP a troll but attempts to "tell it like it is" while making some vague argument about "GNU". Yes, if you're confused, you're not alone. The reply (modded +4) proceeds to simply destroy his bogus argument. You will notice he did not reply. This is what some people call "drive-by advocacy". A sort of I'll just leave you with my thoughts here and move on to the next flamebait kind of deal. In fact, he almost never replies because he knows that his fanatical arguments simply do not hold up to any sort of discussion. It's not that he's chosen the wrong cause - he's just going at it in a completely wrong way.

      Here's that drive-by advocacy and FUD in motion: twitter goes on about some topic and then drops the usual "oh and M$ is teh evil" because "WMP phones home" or some such. Called on his FUD, he then claims that WMP stores every song and movie you've ever played in a file, somewhere. Pressed further, he just sort of slithers out of sight, his FUD-spreading complete. This is not about some Microsoft technology that nobody likes anyway; it's about lying for the sake of lying. Way too many of his posts are exactly like this one.

      More? Just read though this post and the subsequent replies. I guess this stands on its own. Or these two. Or this one. Or this one.

      Still not convinced? This is what twitter considers "humour" while going about his daily "M$" routine.

      M

  26. The time has come... by Hortensia+Patel · · Score: 1
    ...for Patel's Corollary to Zawinski's Law:
    Every input peripheral attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those peripherals which do so expand, however, are ignored in favour of ones which still have a clue.
  27. The LEDs are a good idea by ElectroBot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because I for one am constantly staring at my mouse when I have a gigantic monitor right in front of me.

    Most people don't stare at their mouse constantly, BUT a flashing LED on your mouse will be quite visible in your pheripheral vision. Actually it will probably be more visible then a small icon or text flashing in one of the corners of the screen. Our pheripheral vision is quite good at recognizing movement, bright colors and flashing light, all of which were very useful to our cavemen anscenstors and as still useful to us today.

    I think its a good idea, but some people might find this feature annoying after a while (e.g. teenagers who send messages per hour than speak sentences during the day).

    1. Re:The LEDs are a good idea by MooUK · · Score: 1

      It'll probably be noticeable - providing my hand's not in the way at the time. Considering that when you're using a mouse, your hand usually covers most of it, I can see possible problems.

  28. So Douglas Adams was right... by joyfulchicken · · Score: 1
    mice are the most intelligent creatures on this planet!

    I do find Logitech's idea quite interesting, but the parent raised a good point: small flashing lights on a mouse wouldn't be too useful because most people don't spend too much time staring at their mice.

    Still, it looks like a nice novelty item, and I wouldn't mind if Santa brings me one this year.

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  29. Email and IM's for Algernon? by OneDeeTenTee · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Cool!

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  30. Not so handy when playing games by Oldsmobile · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would not really apreaceate my mouse blinking (or vibrating for that matter) while I'm playing a game. And if I accidentally touched the IM button and it were to tab out of the game (which often crashes certain games btw) I would be really annoyed.

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    1. Re:Not so handy when playing games by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      I would not really apreaceate my mouse blinking (or vibrating for that matter) while I'm playing a game.

      It would depend on who the person was for me (assuming you can specify a particular person which the summary does suggest). Some people are more important then games.

    2. Re:Not so handy when playing games by lloydtesterman · · Score: 5, Funny

      > Some people are more important then games.

      Do you have links to support this?

  31. Not that simple by Nichotin · · Score: 1

    Well, if a company finds out that it will be expensive to support Linux, a Linux driver will still emerge somehow, given that the company is cooperating (by providing specifications) with third party developers who want to create open drivers.
    If they don't provide specifications, then the hardware will be ignored, unless there is a high demand among developers to have support for XXXX hardware. An example of this is the broadcom wireless drivers, which started out as a reverse engineering project.

    1. Re:Not that simple by markdavis · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

      Most people, myself included, don't expect hardware vendors to produce Linux "drivers". But there is no reason why said vendors can't release useful specifications and information so that FOSS developers can produce their own. It doesn't cost the hardware vendor anything, it takes little to no time, it causes no support liability, and it leads to increased sales and feelings of "good will".

      And as a geeky-Linuxy type person, how many non-geeky people ask you for hardware recommendations? I get asked constantly. And I can't recommend something I have not used. So supported hardware that ends up in our hands often, indirectly, leads to lots more sales than just for Linux platforms.

    2. Re:Not that simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, Logitech are not that kind of company, and refuse to "release useful specifications and information so that FOSS developers can produce their own" ( viz my useless dinovo mediapad ).

      Asshats.

  32. Big paws by orasio · · Score: 1

    Hey! guy with big paws!
    I have big paws too, and I have no problem with tiny mice.
    You just need to rest the lower palm on the desktop, and move the mouse with your thumb and pinky. I find I can use the mouse at a 1400x1050 resolution easily, without actually moving my hand. That way, you make a movement similar to typing , where you don't need to move your arms. Maybe, just maybe, big hands and tiny mice can get along well.

  33. Song: You keep me hanging on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You laugh, but I have a friend that recently bought a new cellphone because the new one "vibrates harder then my last one""

    http://www.homemade-sex-toys.com/cellphone/faq.htm l

    "# Can I use my cell phone vibrator in public?

    If you're discreet, and you think you can manage holding your phone in your crotch or stuffing it in your panties with no one noticing, go for it. However, most cell phones aren't totally silent when they vibrate, especially the ones that have more powerful motors. Unless you're on a noisy, jostling subway or a busy street, a persistent buzzing from below the belt might attract a few stares."

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  34. this is old news.. by tomcres · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/08/003425 2&tid=126&tid=99This was reported on /. over three months ago. Nothing to see here... move along..

  35. But does it go PING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously though, it would be nice if they would go back to the mouse style they had about 3 years ago. It was comfortable, and now they are some sort of weird ergo design that well, isn't... 2 buttons and a nice feeling scroll wheel is all I really need or want, other than a bluetooth model that is reasonably priced and works with a laptop built in b/t module.

  36. This is news.. by tomcres · · Score: 1
    This was reported on /. over three months ago. Nothing to see here... move along..

    I can't count... September was two months ago. No wonder I keep getting in trouble with the IRS :|

  37. Total lack of Linux support from Logitech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you run Linux, you can forget this.

    Logitech refuse to support using Linux with their products - just ask anyone with a DiNovo mediapad keyboard. All they have to do is tell us the protocol, which won't cost them a penny, but they won't. Asshats.

    1. Re:Total lack of Linux support from Logitech by value_added · · Score: 1

      If you run Linux, you can forget this.

      Wouldn't something like

      export MAILPATH='/var/spool/mail/xconsole "New mail."'

      be more appropriate?

  38. This is stupid by Megane · · Score: 3, Insightful
    How many of you have keyboards with E-mail buttons and LEDs? How many of you actually have the driver installed that makes them work? How many of you aren't even using Windows and couldn't install the driver if you wanted to? The only special button on the keyboard I have hooked up to a Windows box that works is the stupid suspend button, which I would never use, but it does get hit by accident sometimes.

    Yeah, the extra buttons on those common-as-dirt Compaq USB keyboards sure are useful when plugged into an OS X box. And now your hand will be between you and the lights most of the time. Oh yeah, and this will be real useful for left-handed mouse users.

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    1. Re:This is stupid by zlogic · · Score: 1

      I have a Genius keyboard with 12 extra keys. Guess what? All of tham are used.
      I've assigned about 7 buttons to control Rhythmbox (very convenient, especially if I don't want to look at the monitor), others are used to start Nautilus, Firefox, Evolution, Beagle etc.
      However I don't need more than 3 buttons on a mouse. What would be IMHO wiser is a second programmable keyboard (or simply with weird keycodes to be assigned stuff later in X.org) to be used as an app launcher and perhaps for actions like Undo, instrument choosing in Gimp, maybe some gaming commands.

    2. Re:This is stupid by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      I've actually using one of those keyboard on my Linux desktop, and it's great. Most of the extra buttons show up as odd keyscan codes, wich are easily mappable using GNOME's Keyboard Shortcuts app.

      I've got the media keys bound appropriately, and they tie in well with XMMS and totem. The volume and mute buttons directly control my master volume through GNOME's functionality. I don't use some of the buttons, but that's not a problem.

      The only thing I don't like is that some of the buttons, the ones that would be app shortcut buttons under Windows, don't seem to produce scancodes like the others, so I haven't found a way to bind them. The only clue I have is that the keyboard shows up as having two subdevices. I can only assume those buttons are on the other subdevice.

      I've never gotten the extra indicator lights to do anything, but if I knew how, they might be useful to tie in to scripts to indicate progress. (Like knowing what stage a kernel compile was in without having to check it, or knowing when input was required. IIRC, the suspend LED on this keyboard is amber, which would make it fairly visible.)

    3. Re:This is stupid by Akaihiryuu · · Score: 1

      With Linux/X11, and at least KDE and GNOME, you can program those extra keys to do whatever you want. Executing shell scripts, running programs, you name it. All you have to do is run xev to get the key codes that they generate. If they don't generate a valid keycode, you just specify them in your keymap file (I've never had to do that). I can use the "multimedia" keys on both my Logitech wireless keyboard and my laptop for pretty much whatever I want. I got the volume keys working in both KDE and GNOME the other day, it's not too difficult. For the KDE keyboard shortcut utility to work, it has to specifically recognize your keyboard...if not you have to do it manually via xmodmap, but it's possible, just more difficult. I didn't have to mess with xmodmap either.

  39. HP Keyboards do the same by rjforster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I worked at HP (the part that became Agilent) we had HP PCs with keyboards that included an email LED (next to the Caps, Scroll and Num lock LEDs). It also had some quicklaunch buttons but they aren't so interesting.

    It was really useful to not have to unlock the computer just to check if you had been sent that email yet.

    1. Re:HP Keyboards do the same by frinkillo · · Score: 1

      How about using tools like bl or ledcontrol for controlling the standard keyboard leds?

      I've done this before with bl+kmail for that same purpose and it's quite simple; so everybody can do that right now without having to spend money in a special mouse or keyboard.

      Cheers,

    2. Re:HP Keyboards do the same by rjforster · · Score: 1

      > How about using tools like bl or ledcontrol for controlling the standard keyboard leds?

      On a corporate PC? We both know how likely that is. It tends to be hard enough to get permission to run software other than what is issued on the PC (eg Office + erm, well just Office really), never mind switching away from the corporate desktop OS.

  40. Fatal1ty made me cry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I went to a tournament, and I had to play him, and I got beat bad. I was the best in my neighborhood, no one could touch me. When he crushed me, I cried, in front of my girlfriend too...

  41. All we need now is... by vrta · · Score: 1

    ... Walk-a-dog-Mouse.

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  42. DRM Mice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "They don't provide (at least I can't find it) details on how to talk to the mouse to use the buttons/LEDs for input/output. You have to use their "SetPoint" software, which only works under Windows. And maybe it doesn't work the way you want it to."

    Wow! Those mice must be pretty hard to reverse-engineer.

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  43. Obligatory joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, welcome our new smart mouse overlords.

  44. New mouse by squoozer · · Score: 3, Funny

    My mouse just failed so I went out and bought a Hyper Super Tech X40d2mfgv2 Extra III. It's the most amazing mouse ever. It has 104 programmable keys and three fantastic lights.

    Am I the only one that thinks mice are becoming a little over complicated? Three buttons and a scroll wheel should be enough to anyone :o)

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    1. Re:New mouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like, say, 640kb?

    2. Re:New mouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find the 8 buttons + vertical and horizontal scroll on my mx1000 quite useful actually.

      I have them programmed to switch Firefox tabs, close Firefox tabs, and do PageUp/Dn as well as each scroll direction.

      Like tab browsing, the extra buttons are something you don't realize you need until you've used it for a while.

    3. Re:New mouse by HeliumHigh · · Score: 1

      You should try Tabbrowser Extensions by Piro. True, Mozilla says its not a good extension, but it works well. It lets you scroll your tabs with a normal scroll instead of ctrl+tab :) I have mine set to minimize the window, alt+f4, and alt+tab among others :)

  45. iFeel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Logitech already did vibrating mice with their iFeel range (now discontinued). Only problem was software had to include support for it to be any use, the Unreal Tournament series of games is probably the only that still does.

  46. From the summary: by deacon · · Score: 1
    Because I for one am constantly staring at my mouse when I have a gigantic monitor right in front of me. Cough.

    Turn your head the other way.

    Cough again.

  47. Why? by connah0047 · · Score: 1

    Why in the world would a person want their MOUSE to notify them when they get an Email? The monitor? OK. Speakers? Sure. Mouse!? Come on. What would it do? Jiggle slightly?

    1. Re:Why? by connah0047 · · Score: 1

      and when you get spammed it breaks your wrist.

    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's been mentioned a couple time, but the main reason seems to be that you can see when you have a new IM or e-mail when you can't see your monitor, i.e. your screen saver has kicked in or your monitor has powered down.

  48. in the other news RIM announces a blackberry mouse by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    Why the hell not build a mouse right into your blackberry (I don't have one, I hate that product.) Then you'll have the mouse YOU ever wanted, but count me out.

  49. In very another news .. by ccozan · · Score: 2, Funny

    number of females deleting their spam filters increased with 1000%.

  50. Vibrating mouse has been done by JBlaze03 · · Score: 1

    Already been done by logitech http://www.dansdata.com/ifeel.htm

  51. Or alert from calls... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have mine set up to let me know when Commisioner Gordon is emailing. My blinking red phone stopped working and now we have an excuse to enter the 21st century. --Batman

  52. That's not that smart ... by Flambergius · · Score: 2, Funny

    The previous two post had to do with genetics/biology, so I guess I was a bit pre-conditioned ...

    Smart mouse with e-mail and IM alerts ... cool, they've genetically engineered a mouse to able to use email and IM ... neat trick, I get the IM, but the email asynchronous communication does require fairly high abstract thinking ability ... oh, wait.

    Seriously, for a moment I was alright with a mouse messaging with other mouses and reseachers.

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  53. Need for on off switch by Flying+pig · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One thing I have never understood is why wireless mice do not seem to have battery on/off switches. Although they go to a low power mode after a while, some of them get retriggered when moving around in a briefcase, and the battery life is shorter than it needs to be. Is a physical switch really that difficult?

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    1. Re:Need for on off switch by mungojelly · · Score: 1

      UI designers seem to have some sort of allergy to power switches lately. Nothing comes with a power switch anymore, even if there's every reason in the world that it ought to. <3

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    2. Re:Need for on off switch by wasted+time · · Score: 1

      Under my grubby paw sits a 2 or 3 year old Logitech optical scroll mouse for notebooks. It was the only one I could find with a power switch at that time but now almost all of their notebook mice have a similar feature. Some have a storage compartment for the USB dongle which cuts the power when stowed.

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    3. Re:Need for on off switch by colganc · · Score: 1

      Mobile wireless mice (the kind meant for laptops) have on/off switches.

    4. Re:Need for on off switch by earthbound+kid · · Score: 1

      Um, could you tell me where on my Logitech Mx900 Bluetooth mouse to look, because I've had this mouse for a year and a half and still haven't found a power switch. But surely, you wouldn't make a blanket statement unless you knew it to be absolutely true, right?

    5. Re:Need for on off switch by colganc · · Score: 1

      That's not one of the mobile specific mice. Like these: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/product list/US/EN,crid=2140,categoryid=415

    6. Re:Need for on off switch by linzeal · · Score: 1

      My mouse may not have a power on/off switch but it gets remarkable battery life. I think the new laser mice are more efficient than their LED predecessors.

  54. I just passed this up by Vermyndax · · Score: 1

    I was mouse shopping Friday and I saw this mouse. I almost bought it, but I passed it up because of the subconcious 70's-esque appearance. It just didn't strike me as interesting to have the lights either.

  55. mouse features I would like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    short list, random order and no idea if any of this is out there already, I'm still using throw away 2 buck corded jobbies..when I don't use thriftstore 50 cent mices..man am I cheap...

    built in biometrics-you already place your fingerprint on the thing, might as well make it function for security. You step away from the machine, take your mouse with you,slip it in your pocket, the computer locks down hard then, no other access until you get back close enough for the mouse to get detected again.

    A built in flashdrive-people use flashdrives for a variety of purposes, and they are super tiny now in some configs, so perhaps a drive that stored your personal OS 'roaming user" profile or data recovery tools or doubled carrying it around as a smallish mp3 player, whatever you want to stick on there.

    might need some thought on the way for data transfer though...hmmm

      HAHAHAH-OK, convergence-it's your cellphone as well! Add a bluetooth headset to it. The view screen could be on the bottom on the unused part of the plastic that normally you aren't looking at, just flip it over to view and to access the number keypad.

  56. Microsoft's best product by ScottCooperDotNet · · Score: 2

    Microsoft's best product is their mice. Simple is beautiful.

    1. Re:Microsoft's best product by Vacuous · · Score: 1

      eh, I have one and find it rather uncomfortable, I loves me my Intellimouse Explorer 4.0, only thing I could want this mouse doesn't provide is the little grooves in the scroll wheel for gaming, but I got used to not having them.

    2. Re:Microsoft's best product by trollable · · Score: 0

      Microsoft's best product is their mice.

      I disagree. It is not very robust. Mine lasted only one year...
      (thinking again) Hmm, you're right, this is probably their best product.

  57. can i get one for my xbox by bxbaser · · Score: 1

    Do you maybe have an ebay link where i can buy a mouse for $300 ?

  58. That's all I fuckin' need by xant · · Score: 1

    My ADHD can't handle one more flashing device telling me something has happened on the internets.

    Please, give me a mouse that emits white noise, and laserbeams anyone who is trying to approach and distract me.

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  59. Logitech not the first by zaaj · · Score: 1

    Kensiko has had an "email mouse" for at least a couple years now (I bought one some time ago - it was the cheapest mouse in the store at the time) and it too was only for outlook or other MAPI clients, but the scroll-wheel lit up solid when powered, and flashed when a message was detected. No extra action when clicking on it though, and no IM.

    I could see this as useful for a home user who could glance across the room to see if they needed to sit down at the computer. Especially if it's a stay-at-home parent with a home-based business.

    It doesn't fit my needs, but that doesn't mean it's not useful to enough people to make it worth developing and selling.

  60. Functionality in IM programs - Gaim by vandoravp · · Score: 2, Informative

    Having said that, it would make more sense for IM programs to add this functionality.

    Gaim has support for "buddy pounces" which allow you to set an action (such as a notification which can be anything from a pop-up window, IM box, and sent message to just a simple sound) for any event (an IM, change in state, even typing) a person on your buddylist triggers. They can also be set to repeat. They can even be used to piss people off by having it send a message to them whenever they start or stop typing. That can get really annoying, believe me.

    1. Re:Functionality in IM programs - Gaim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As does Aduim.

    2. Re:Functionality in IM programs - Gaim by SirTalon42 · · Score: 1

      Aduim is based on Gaim.

  61. logitech by bobbyw · · Score: 0

    I bought this mouse when it was first posted on /. Biggest waste of money ever. The software they shipped it to me with didn't even have support for all the things it was suppost to have, and the version of the software on Logitech.com was even older. I called tech support and they told me they had never used or seen one, and to call back in a few days. After a few days of using this very inaccurate mouse I called back and they told me they still didn't know anything, and that they could upgrade it to another model. I ended up shelling out more money which brought my grand total well over 100 dollars to get the G7, because of it's sensitivity changing option. As soon as I held the mouse I realized the problem with it: the sensitivity buttons are directly below the scroll wheel, vertically. this means you have to bend your fingertip almost all the way to your palm before you can get the small buttons. I called back, said it sucked, they said I can't return it. My advice to impart to you? Don't ever buy a logitech mouse unless you've used it before.

  62. months old news and dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  63. worthwhile underlying concepts, bad implementation by mungojelly · · Score: 3, Interesting

    First off I'll second all the objections to this ridiculous product: It's unnecessarily limited, proprietary, non-compatible, and probably-- anyone know for sure?-- absurdly patented. That said, there are two underlying concepts embodied here which I think are worthwhile as we look towards future interface design.

    One: More I/O is almost always good. The human brain is in large part a pattern recognizing machine; put meaningful information anywhere in someone's environment and they'll adapt to make use of it. If this product was aimed at slashdotters, the ad copy could have read: "Mouse that displays two bits of information!" It's not much, but it's more than your mouse used to be telling you.

    Two: Input and output work well in connected loops. It's much more intuitive that if somewhere lights up to tell you about something that needs your attention, you respond by touching there. If properly implemented, this kind of integrity to a mini I/O situation could help us in making meaningful connections and associations. For instance, if there is a button somewhere that lights up when we get an IM from a particular person, and brings up an IM window to that person when pressed (whether it's lit or not), then that button represents that person on multiple levels.

    We are primed and ready to make emotional connections with the things around us. One might have thought that having a light that shows HD or network activity would be silly-- in fact it's often practical-- but more than practical, it's often reassuring. For decades now, when a computer looks like it might be hung, I look to the HD light to reassure me that it really is doing something. That light has an emotional meaning for me.

    So, yes, this particular product is a ridiculous implementation, but the ideas which are being ridiculously implemented are themselves worthwhile. There's something missing in all of the vibrating mice and email buttons they've come up with so far, but that doesn't mean that we should never explore I/O that goes beyond 101 keys and one big glowing square.

    <3

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  64. I hate the fact that it's impossible to buy a keyboard without loads of useless extra keys. Now the mice designers are at it too. Excuse me while I rush off to stockpile sensible mice...

    (Yes I am typing this on an IBM Model M keyboard)

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  65. Logitech Now Number 1 in the market! by coofercat · · Score: 1

    Logitech have recently become the number 1 vendor in the mouse market (when measured by volume).

    In celebrations, the company announced it is developing a new generation of "smart mouse". This new type of mouse would be something similar to a laptop on castor wheels. The user would have around 100 buttons, and an integrated, full colour, high resolution display which would be used by the mouse to alert the user to various events. Company officials declined to elaborate on a likely price for the new mouse.

  66. Mouse 2.0 by otisg · · Score: 1

    Also known as ADDM - Attention Deficit Disored Mouse.

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  67. Grammar by Sheepdot · · Score: 1

    Because I for one am...

    This is the most common grammar mistake made on the Internet, I swear.

    Because I, for one, am...

    1. Re:Grammar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only that, but the article uses "very unique", when that is an impossible construct. Something is unique, or it isn't. There are no shades.

      Given that the article's author is illiterate, I suggest we ignore it entirely.

  68. Exclusive features by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

    >it's interesting how Logitech comes up with such exclusive features

    No, it's not interesting, because they don't. My Trust mouse from about two years ago (since replaced by a Diamondback) would flash the additional LED under the scroll wheel when an email was received. As somebody already said, some HP keyboards have additional LEDs (and buttons) for mail/IM.

    In any case, Trillian has a plugin which flashes the standard (Caps|Scroll|Num) indicators when a message is received. Very useful when playing games, and no extra hardware required.

  69. Whatever will they think of next... by opusman · · Score: 1

    And all I want for Christmas is a decent wireless keyboard that a) works reliably and b) doesn't have the f-lock abomination that Microsoft and Logitech appear to have decided everyone needs.

  70. wtf by Evro · · Score: 1

    Because I for one am constantly staring at my mouse when I have a gigantic monitor right in front of me. Cough.

    This doesn't make any sense. You acknowledge the stupidity of the product and post the article (Slashvertisement) anyway?

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  71. Price? by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    The suggested retail price of the MX610 laser cordless mouse $59.99.

    Does anyone remember luxury mice costing no more than 30$? Is it just me or am I wrong about this? This one costs something like 50 IIRC and that's like 2 the price I used to pay for top-of-the-line mice. Can anyone from germany or any other Euro country confirm this?

    Or am I just not remebering prices for stuff like this correctly?

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  72. Useless if you ask me by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

    I can't even get the buttons on my keyboard for email, search, connect, etc. to work. If I could, I wouldn't use them either.

    Also, I already have 7 buttons and a scroll wheel on my mouse and I use all of them. Adding 2 more that only work for IM/email would seem to add more junk to the mouse than it does functionality.

    Think about it, you only have to click roughly 3 times to open your IM or email client.

    And of course, it doesn't work in Linux until you write your own driver for it.

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  73. Peripheral vision! by Equis · · Score: 1

    ...a flashing LED on your mouse will be quite visible in your peripheral vision.

    HA! I get it! Mouse. Peripheral. Man, that's funny stuff.

    /me needs sleep

  74. Lights seem inapproriate... by MSDos-486 · · Score: 1

    I remember once seeing a ad for a mouse that vibrated when you got a email/IM/whatever you set if for.

  75. Parent is not a Troll by students · · Score: 1

    This is true. Microsoft should quit the software market for peripherals.

  76. Yahoo! released this 3 years ago. by stm2 · · Score: 1

    I 2002 I bought a Yahoo! branded mouse (grey color, USB) with a light at the back for email notification. It should work with the provided driver, but never tried it since the mouse worked without external drivers, both in Windows and Linux (but without the back light)

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  77. Cough. by TrappedByMyself · · Score: 1

    Cough.

    I think everyone at Slashdot need to get checked for bronchitis.
    Seems to be alot of **coughing** going around.

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  78. Not so interesting... by woolio · · Score: 2, Interesting
    interesting how Logitech comes up with such exclusive features.
    Ahem! I have a feeling there are a few *cough* patents that are the root of such evil^H^H^H^Hexclusivity... In many senses, computer mice are like toilet paper... There really much left in terms of *useful* innovation, but that's where marketing depts take over... For example, the 3rd button/scrollwheel has its uses, but most things work quite well without. (I'd bet that most Linux users don't even realize that their scrollwheel may not work by default). And Mac users will probably be the first to say that even two buttons are overrated...
    1. Re:Not so interesting... by antispam_ben · · Score: 1

      Quoting the last line first:
      And Mac users will probably be the first to say that even two buttons are overrated...

      Heck, even a mouse is overated. Back when I used CP/M, before everyone had a mouse...

      Ahem! I have a feeling there are a few *cough* patents that are the root of such evil^H^H^H^Hexclusivity...

      Back before everyone had a mouse you could erase a whole word with a single ^W.

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  79. Now... by crache · · Score: 1

    What somebody needs to do, is replace the light with a couple of contact points where you rest your fingers / hand to shock you when you get a message, because we all know were not screwed up enough abstaining from society, staying up all night and consuming large amounts of stimulants.

  80. Not the first smart mouse! by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    This is definitely not the "world's first" smart mouse... Mickey and Jerry aside, scientists created a smart mouse at Princeton six years ago - check it out. Luckily you can catch these suckers with a smart mouse trap.

  81. Fearless? by qbasicnewbie · · Score: 0

    Yes. But is this mouse FEARLESS?

  82. Won't be long... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

    Intercepting USB data isn't hard, it just requires know-how.

    maybe running SetPoint under VMWare, and intercepting the data between VMWare and the hardware? Or, on a sufficiently fast machine, use something like bochs. If, of course, bochs supports libusb. There's a Linux Journal article on snooping libusb traffic.

  83. Notes from Reviewer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I reviewed this thing a month ago, and while the battery life and ergonomics are great, the wireless is problematic and the IM/Email notificiations while useful for telecommuters or people AFK only works with Outlook/MSN, not my cup of tea.

    BTW how is this news if it was covered on Slashdot already?

  84. Thanks Logitech by slashbob22 · · Score: 1

    Possible Extensions??
    1) Keyboard
    2) Monitor
    3) Hardrive
    4) CD-ROM (we already have the laser)
    5) Auto-Pr0n Button
    5a) Easy wipes to clean the monitor (for those embarrising situations)
    6) Heck - It might as well assist in those situations.

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  85. no, but I do have a.... by L0k11 · · Score: 1
    relationship!

    sure it may be with a goat, but trans species marriage should be coming annnny time now

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    1. Re:no, but I do have a.... by codeviking · · Score: 1
      but trans species marriage should be coming annnny time now

      Tongue-in-cheek, I know, but it really wouldn't surprise me...

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    2. Re:no, but I do have a.... by animale · · Score: 1

      Before or after Christians allow gay hyoomonz to marry?

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  86. BBC breaking news! by linzeal · · Score: 1

    The worse is BBC "breaking news" text flashing under the anchors on the BBC news videos. They flash the damn thing every 2 seconds for up to 10 minutes when one of their drinking/football champions dies. I have to turn off the channel or I get physically sick.

  87. How to implement a blackberry mouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A blackberry mouse would be really easy... for a Mac.
    All you need is a hot glue gun and one of their no-button mice.

  88. If you want to talk about spam.. by Inoshiro · · Score: 1

    Then let's talk about all the Xbox360 stories posted in the last week. Microsoft has paid a lot of money to ensure that they get headlines everywhere. All news is good news, as long as the name is spelt right. /. has obliged by posting between 3-6 stories per day about the Xbox360.

    Unlike Jon Katz, there is no nice option to say that I don't want MS's spamvertisements on my /. view. They keep shoving the stories in the Xbox 1 category!

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  89. It's Crap by dkuntz · · Score: 0

    I had this mouse for about 4 hours. Problems are as follows:
    1. NO IMAP SUPPORT. It will work ONLY with Outlook or Outlook Express, using POP3. I think most folk that read Slashdot probably dont use Outlook (Express), and hopefully use IMAP4, making this feature useless.

    2. IM Support sucks.. It will only work with yahoo messenger, MSN messenger, or AIM. It wont work with trillian, gaim, etc. I personally dont want to have 4-5 messengers running, with their extra features I never use, using a nice 150meg of ram.

    If you buy it for the IM and Email Lights/buttons, you'll be disappointed bigtime. If you just want a regular laser mouse, and dont care about the buttons, you can save $20 and get a regular 3 button laser mouse.

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  90. 2 Inch Monitor by beetlefeet · · Score: 1

    My mouse is larger than my monitor you insensitive clod!

  91. Open Source by nephridium · · Score: 0

    If Logitech open sources the drivers I'll buy it. Think of all the cool things you could do with this mouse, e.g. communicating with your PC from another room or even chatting through an IM using morse code. Or simply using the buttons to remotely execute certain programs.

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  92. Why these buttons exist by wocket44 · · Score: 1

    For the record.. these buttons are useful because, as a wireless device (i'm pretty sure), you can take the mouse in the next room, and still be notified if you have new mail. Please continue talking...

  93. I have one-- NO GAIM SUPPORT by DerekJ212 · · Score: 0

    I have one of these and its a great mouse but buyer beware there is no GAIM support for the IM notifications. When you get an email in Outlook the blue button starts to light up and pulse breifly before going solid and it turns out looking classy and non obtrusive. I love the mouse!

  94. I am already at my desk by tod_miller · · Score: 1

    A better product would be a pepper pot that gives an alert, but then that would interrupt your dinner.

    in summation: you are at your desk, you don't need it.
    you are at your desk, you might not want it.

    making the pepper pot *look* like a pager is one thing too. Just a single small device that forwards alerts from PC to you.

    Sounds like this would sell to the heathen masses of PC world buyers who go 'ooooooh look at that mouse....does it make my games run faster?'

    0.o

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  95. smart == bad by hachete · · Score: 1

    dumb == good

    every frickin time. As soon as you see something labelled "smart", nuke it. It's bound to contain stuff which will screw yr life *every* time.

    This advice brought to you by the letters Foo and Bar

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