No, when you use C++ to shoot yourself in the foot:
You accidently create a dozen instances of yourself and shoot them all in the foot. Providing emergency medical care is impossible since you can't tell which are bitwise copies and which are just pointing at others and saying, "that's me, over there."
Okay New Yorkers, it's time to talk to your governor, your state senators, and your congressmen and let them know what you want, or don't want.
Did you ask to be taxed more? No? Well, your politicians seem to be confused. Please set them straight.
Remember, they are supposed to represent you. It's not as if the government should do whatever it wants to do and you have no say in the situation. It's only that way when you keep quiet.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA
You think your politicians represent you or care about what you think?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Politicians are 100% about having power and control for themselves. They say they want to listen to you, but it is just an act to make you feel like they care.
In reality, if you tell your elected officials anything, they will find a way to say or imply that they agree with your opinion on the issue, and then vote one of two ways: what they think is best for you regardless of your opinion on the subject, or what is good for them politically.
That's illegal under U.S. trade and anti-trust law.
Care to link to the appropriate U.S. federal regulation that says so? Because the U.S. Treasury says that businesses can determine whatever payment methods they wish.
XYZ Mall could certainly require the payment terms you specified as part of the lease agreement. And, JCPenney would be free to simply find a different location for their store.
Surely eBay isn't the only place to sell stuff online?
I wonder what the middle eastern religions, the trifecta judaism, christianity, and islam, will have to say about it. Either the universe is teaming with life, or we are the only ones. I find it hard to believe we are the only ones, so sooner or later will find proof of life somewhere.
I doubt we are alone. The real question is, are we alone with regard to how we have evolved with regards to intelligence and communication. After all, life on a distant planet is nothing but a small curiosity for scientific journals unless we can communicate with it.
Oh, and you mean 'teeming', not 'teaming'. Well, unless you really did mean that the universe and life are forming a organization for working or playing together.
First, I work for a large software company that has a significant operation some distance away from Portland. But, they are one of the only high-tech companies in the area. With the thinly veiled threat of outsourcing and off shoring, what are you going to do to bring more high-tech jobs to areas in the state that are not the Portland metro area? The economic benefits of bringing highly-skilled and highly-paid workers to the rest of Oregon should be obvious.
Second, did you know that on the eastern side of the Cascades there is actually more of Oregon besides ski resorts and their associated towns? It always seems that people (and politicians) who live in the western portion of the state think that Idaho begins just on the eastern side of Bend and Sunriver - I was wondering if you knew about the rest of it, unlike the governor and most of the other state Democrats.
Finally, can you do something about all of the Californians moving here?:)
I don't have cable, don't need it, and don't want it. I don't have to worry about whether the cable company lets me record a show. I don't have to worry about what media my DVD recorder supports. I don't need an 80" TV for some sort of fulfillment.
Its amazing how many people complain about the cable company, the studios, the TV and AV equipment manufacturers, the FCC, etc. But, when it comes down to it, few of the same people actually vote with their money and give it up.
The problem is, I am paying for the use of the utility. Also, the infrastructure isn't public as in "paid by tax dollars" here.
What's wrong with doing it the way we do here? The utilities charge more during times of peak usage and tier the price per KWh so that after each threshold you pay more per KWh.
It is fairly straightforward. I demand more, I pay more. The what pays for the upkeep of the infrastructure that delivers it, not tax dollars. The utility manages to turn a profit, which they should use to build more power plants, you'd think.
In any case, like any other good or service, either the utility should deliver the product to me if it has it and is willing to sell, or it should not. What the utility should not do is enter my home (figuratively or literally) and decide how I use it.
In a nutshell: I think rolling blackouts are fine if the utility cannot meet my demand. I think them turning up the temperature in my house (and raising the temperature of my home office and business equipment) is unacceptable.
Your reasoning would suggest that if I buy cardboard boxes from Company A (which enjoys the same corporate status as the local for-profit utility) that once I have paid for it and bring it home, Company A can tell me what purposes I can use said cardboard boxes. "I'm sorry sir, you can only tape boxes between 6 AM and 10 PM and you can't use reinforced strapping tape."
Are you offended that incandescent light bulbs are being phased out in favor of the more efficient compact fluorescent bulbs? Same amount of light output at a fraction of the power consumption.
I find any federal regulation like that fairly offensive, yes.
Now that you've gotten me started on the CFs: I've never had one last the 5 years they are supposed to, and I was one of the early adopters.
Frankly, I dislike their light quality. I don't like the fact that the commonly available ones won't work with my dimmers (which save plenty of money). I don't like the fact that they don't come in flame-tip versions for decorative lighting. I don't like the fact that they are all necessarily "frosted" in style.
However, I have always used the CF bulbs where appropriate because of the "green" factor. But, I use them in ways that make them more tolerable. Rather than have two 60-watt incandescents in a dual-bulb fixture, for instance, I'd have one 40-watt incandescent and a CF using only 15. That's a big savings while still having a better aesthetic feel. Garage lighting? All fluorescent. Bedroom lighting? All incandescent.
How do you think my dining room chandelier is going to look with CFs in it? You bet I'm pissed off about the soon to be limited supply of incandescent bulbs.
First of all, I'll apologize for the pissed-in-my-cheerios post up above. It was first thing in the morning and I had a headache. I probably should have been more awake before posting. Anyway....
We're talking about California here. Since when does any "good idea" the government dreams up get implemented on a voluntary basis in California?
Energy is not limitless, that is a fact.
For all practical purposes, solar energy is limitless. When it comes down to it, almost all energy we have on Earth except for geothermal energy originated from the Sun. Even oil was generated from the Sun supplying energy to the life forms that eventually became the oil (unless the other theory on oil is true: that the source hydrocarbons were primordial, which is a possibility).
But, there are people would rather punish the end-user of the energy. People who spend more time trying to figure out how to make me deal with rolling blackouts and/or thermostats that might let my home office get to 90 degrees without my consent or control. People who would rather spend their time dreaming up ways to control me, rather than put their creative minds at harvesting energy from the Sun.
... is up to the politicians, who answer to the voters.
Hah, if you paid attention, you'd realize that politicians only answer to voters while running for office, not while actually in office.
I stopped writing letters to my congresspeople because it is often the case they send a letter back saying they agree with me, and then vote the other way on the relevant bill. So, evidently my elected officials (Dems and Reps alike) agree with me 100% of the time, yet they don't seem to vote the way I would 100% of the time. Imagine that.
Look people, if we want to be smarter about our energy and reduce our dependence on fossil fuels, we need to take measures like this. This buys us time to implement better methods of extracting renewable energy. Sophomoric and overprotective statements like "don't touch my AC" are based on ignorance. Understand the technology and how it really affects you before crying foul.
I have a better idea: Go fuck yourself and keep your regulations out of my home. It's already bad enough the kind of regulation that's been placed on the home. There used to be a saying: "A man's home is his castle." People like you have destroyed that concept.
Again, go fuck yourself.
(Oh, if there's a problem with supply vs. demand of electricity, here's an idea: charge more for the electricity to reduce demand!)
You aren't quite clear what you mean on this. If you mean you have no visual indication where a code block ends, you're a retard. Indentation is far easier to vgrep than braces. If you mean you have to think differently to write Python code programmatically, well yes, you do. Thankfully, there are simple libraries that do most of the work for you.
For any machine-assisted use in general (yes, indentation is easy to use with a human brain, that's why almost everyone does it even in languages that don't enforce it). Here is an example: in an editor I use, when I close a block in a language that is similar to C syntax, it automatically flashes me for.5 seconds the context of the opening brace of the block, even if it is off the screen. I like this feature, though I am not entirely sure why.
The editor has no clue that you are ending a block in Python merely because you back-tabbed. You could just be adding a blank line.
Please understand that I don't dislike Python. I'm just pointing out my annoyance with white space as a syntax element.
(Yes, I used slashdot's ecode tag, which fails to preserve the leading spaces even though it is for inserting code snippets)
#!/usr/local/bin/python
import string, sys
# If no arguments were given, print a helpful message if len(sys.argv)==1: print 'Usage: celsius temp1 temp2...' sys.exit(0)
# Loop over the arguments for i in sys.argv[1:]: try: fahrenheit=float(string.atoi(i)) except string.atoi_error: print repr(i), "not a numeric value" else: celsius=(fahrenheit-32)*5.0/9.0 print '%i\260F = %i\260C' % (int(fahrenheit), int(celsius+.5))
I am aware that the plain old text option mostly works nowadays, but there are sometimes problems with that as well. A few months ago, it was totally broken as well in this regard.
Countless other forums out there have issues with preserving code formatting, not to mention some web-based chat systems where you might want to paste a code snippet.
If, for example, one guy uses tabs and one guy uses spaces, and the tab guy has his tabstop set to 2 or 4, while the spaces guy has left it at 8... well, stuff is going to look weird. Forcing everyone to the same convention is something you should be doing anyway, and I'd rather it happen automatically (by breaking stuff).
In languages that use delimiters as block and line markers, you can run a code beautifier to standardize the code, and even fix code that is horribly malformatted. If the white space gets screwed up really bad in a python program (line endings are deleted somehow), it will it not only fail to run, it will require a human to go in and unscrew it.
Indents, makes the coder must use indents, which makes the code easier to read.
Not necessarily. Especially if the application used to view the code is not the same one that the code was written on.
List of annoyances I have with regarding Python and white space:
You can't just send somebody some Python code in a medium that isn't whitespace-safe.
Indentation preferences vary among programmers, are arbitrary, and some people feel strongly about 4-space, 2 space, tabs, etc. Python uses this as a syntax element and forces everyone working on a particular file to share the same indentation scheme or risk breaking the code. In free-form languages, one guy who forgets to change his 4-space tab into actual spaces isn't going to break things.
The way I read it, the first image was a prototype produced by a grad student. I still don't see any mention that the Average Joe could buy that particular keyboard. Also it is clear from the photo that not "each and every key" had an LCD... the enter and shift keys clearly do not.
What it does say you could buy is a keyboard where the function keys had LCDs in them. To me, that's pretty much useless and not much better than the little reference cards/stickers that came with some software that you installed around the function keys.
Well, I just found this, but there is still no mention of a mass produced keyboard that someone could buy that had an "lcd display in each and every keycap" as the grandparent poster said.
15 years ago you could buy keyboards with an lcd display in each and every keycap.
Do you have any evidence for this? I just did quite a bit of searching and can find no evidence such a keyboard existed until this one was announced in 2005 (and only has function keys with programmable displays). This particular keyboard is evidently vaporware, and was announced after the Optimus keyboard, so it really doesn't count.
So, show us the evidence such a keyboard existed 15 years ago.
Until I can paste with a built-in physically distinct* middle mouse button on a MacBook, I'll stick with a generic laptop and Linux, thanks!
.
* That means a button that is not part of some other button or part of the trackpad, etc. An actual, for-the-purpose, and separate-from-other-objects (in the usual fashion) middle mouse button.
Yes, but those of us that want a real ****ing button with a real tactile click are out of luck. Especially people like me who think the pad is for pointing, the buttons are for clicking.
Until Apple sells a laptop with at least two (preferably three) independently clickable buttons, I'll never get one.
Oh, and a USB/bluetooth mouse or trackball is not an option. The point of a laptop is to have everything you want built-in. Ever try using a mouse on a plane?
Well, there were numerous fastloaders for the hacking inclined.
And back then, weren't we all hackers...just a little bit? Cuz I think you had to be to get anything done!
True enough. I can still program in 6502 assembler. I'd definitely have to thank my old 8-bit machine for giving me an advantage when I was required to write MIPS assembly language in college. Plenty of other people who'd never seen assembly language before pretty much choked on it.
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http://www.fullduplex.org/humor/2006/10/how-to-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot-in-any-programming-language/
Okay New Yorkers, it's time to talk to your governor, your state senators, and your congressmen and let them know what you want, or don't want.
Did you ask to be taxed more? No? Well, your politicians seem to be confused. Please set them straight.
Remember, they are supposed to represent you. It's not as if the government should do whatever it wants to do and you have no say in the situation. It's only that way when you keep quiet.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA
You think your politicians represent you or care about what you think?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Politicians are 100% about having power and control for themselves. They say they want to listen to you, but it is just an act to make you feel like they care.
In reality, if you tell your elected officials anything, they will find a way to say or imply that they agree with your opinion on the issue, and then vote one of two ways: what they think is best for you regardless of your opinion on the subject, or what is good for them politically.
That's illegal under U.S. trade and anti-trust law.
Care to link to the appropriate U.S. federal regulation that says so? Because the U.S. Treasury says that businesses can determine whatever payment methods they wish.
XYZ Mall could certainly require the payment terms you specified as part of the lease agreement. And, JCPenney would be free to simply find a different location for their store.
Surely eBay isn't the only place to sell stuff online?
Can you tell me the secret to getting Norton off a Windows computer?
Maybe use the Norton Removal Tool?
Shockingly enough, if you type "Norton Uninstall" into Google and click "I feel lucky" this is what you get.
Hah. Eugene road maintenance plan: "let it rot."
I wonder what the middle eastern religions, the trifecta judaism, christianity, and islam, will have to say about it. Either the universe is teaming with life, or we are the only ones. I find it hard to believe we are the only ones, so sooner or later will find proof of life somewhere.
I doubt we are alone. The real question is, are we alone with regard to how we have evolved with regards to intelligence and communication. After all, life on a distant planet is nothing but a small curiosity for scientific journals unless we can communicate with it.
Oh, and you mean 'teeming', not 'teaming'. Well, unless you really did mean that the universe and life are forming a organization for working or playing together.
Mr. Novick,
:)
First, I work for a large software company that has a significant operation some distance away from Portland. But, they are one of the only high-tech companies in the area. With the thinly veiled threat of outsourcing and off shoring, what are you going to do to bring more high-tech jobs to areas in the state that are not the Portland metro area? The economic benefits of bringing highly-skilled and highly-paid workers to the rest of Oregon should be obvious.
Second, did you know that on the eastern side of the Cascades there is actually more of Oregon besides ski resorts and their associated towns? It always seems that people (and politicians) who live in the western portion of the state think that Idaho begins just on the eastern side of Bend and Sunriver - I was wondering if you knew about the rest of it, unlike the governor and most of the other state Democrats.
Finally, can you do something about all of the Californians moving here?
and you simply won't care.
I don't have cable, don't need it, and don't want it. I don't have to worry about whether the cable company lets me record a show. I don't have to worry about what media my DVD recorder supports. I don't need an 80" TV for some sort of fulfillment.
Its amazing how many people complain about the cable company, the studios, the TV and AV equipment manufacturers, the FCC, etc. But, when it comes down to it, few of the same people actually vote with their money and give it up.
... and the utility company generally normally has what amounts to a government granted monopoly.
I think that is probably the chief problem here. The collusion of the utility and the government to prevent competition.
The problem is, I am paying for the use of the utility. Also, the infrastructure isn't public as in "paid by tax dollars" here.
What's wrong with doing it the way we do here? The utilities charge more during times of peak usage and tier the price per KWh so that after each threshold you pay more per KWh.
It is fairly straightforward. I demand more, I pay more. The what pays for the upkeep of the infrastructure that delivers it, not tax dollars. The utility manages to turn a profit, which they should use to build more power plants, you'd think.
In any case, like any other good or service, either the utility should deliver the product to me if it has it and is willing to sell, or it should not. What the utility should not do is enter my home (figuratively or literally) and decide how I use it.
In a nutshell: I think rolling blackouts are fine if the utility cannot meet my demand. I think them turning up the temperature in my house (and raising the temperature of my home office and business equipment) is unacceptable.
Your reasoning would suggest that if I buy cardboard boxes from Company A (which enjoys the same corporate status as the local for-profit utility) that once I have paid for it and bring it home, Company A can tell me what purposes I can use said cardboard boxes. "I'm sorry sir, you can only tape boxes between 6 AM and 10 PM and you can't use reinforced strapping tape."
Are you offended that incandescent light bulbs are being phased out in favor of the more efficient compact fluorescent bulbs? Same amount of light output at a fraction of the power consumption.
I find any federal regulation like that fairly offensive, yes.
Now that you've gotten me started on the CFs: I've never had one last the 5 years they are supposed to, and I was one of the early adopters.
Frankly, I dislike their light quality. I don't like the fact that the commonly available ones won't work with my dimmers (which save plenty of money). I don't like the fact that they don't come in flame-tip versions for decorative lighting. I don't like the fact that they are all necessarily "frosted" in style.
However, I have always used the CF bulbs where appropriate because of the "green" factor. But, I use them in ways that make them more tolerable. Rather than have two 60-watt incandescents in a dual-bulb fixture, for instance, I'd have one 40-watt incandescent and a CF using only 15. That's a big savings while still having a better aesthetic feel. Garage lighting? All fluorescent. Bedroom lighting? All incandescent.
How do you think my dining room chandelier is going to look with CFs in it? You bet I'm pissed off about the soon to be limited supply of incandescent bulbs.
First of all, I'll apologize for the pissed-in-my-cheerios post up above. It was first thing in the morning and I had a headache. I probably should have been more awake before posting. Anyway....
... is up to the politicians, who answer to the voters.
We're talking about California here. Since when does any "good idea" the government dreams up get implemented on a voluntary basis in California?
Energy is not limitless, that is a fact.
For all practical purposes, solar energy is limitless. When it comes down to it, almost all energy we have on Earth except for geothermal energy originated from the Sun. Even oil was generated from the Sun supplying energy to the life forms that eventually became the oil (unless the other theory on oil is true: that the source hydrocarbons were primordial, which is a possibility).
But, there are people would rather punish the end-user of the energy. People who spend more time trying to figure out how to make me deal with rolling blackouts and/or thermostats that might let my home office get to 90 degrees without my consent or control. People who would rather spend their time dreaming up ways to control me, rather than put their creative minds at harvesting energy from the Sun.
Hah, if you paid attention, you'd realize that politicians only answer to voters while running for office, not while actually in office.
I stopped writing letters to my congresspeople because it is often the case they send a letter back saying they agree with me, and then vote the other way on the relevant bill. So, evidently my elected officials (Dems and Reps alike) agree with me 100% of the time, yet they don't seem to vote the way I would 100% of the time. Imagine that.
Look people, if we want to be smarter about our energy and reduce our dependence on fossil fuels, we need to take measures like this. This buys us time to implement better methods of extracting renewable energy. Sophomoric and overprotective statements like "don't touch my AC" are based on ignorance. Understand the technology and how it really affects you before crying foul.
I have a better idea: Go fuck yourself and keep your regulations out of my home. It's already bad enough the kind of regulation that's been placed on the home. There used to be a saying: "A man's home is his castle." People like you have destroyed that concept.
Again, go fuck yourself.
(Oh, if there's a problem with supply vs. demand of electricity, here's an idea: charge more for the electricity to reduce demand!)
You aren't quite clear what you mean on this. If you mean you have no visual indication where a code block ends, you're a retard. Indentation is far easier to vgrep than braces. If you mean you have to think differently to write Python code programmatically, well yes, you do. Thankfully, there are simple libraries that do most of the work for you.
.5 seconds the context of the opening brace of the block, even if it is off the screen. I like this feature, though I am not entirely sure why.
For any machine-assisted use in general (yes, indentation is easy to use with a human brain, that's why almost everyone does it even in languages that don't enforce it). Here is an example: in an editor I use, when I close a block in a language that is similar to C syntax, it automatically flashes me for
The editor has no clue that you are ending a block in Python merely because you back-tabbed. You could just be adding a blank line.
Please understand that I don't dislike Python. I'm just pointing out my annoyance with white space as a syntax element.
What medium?
This one, for instance, when you use the HTML formatted option.
Here's some code for you, from here:
(Yes, I used slashdot's ecode tag, which fails to preserve the leading spaces even though it is for inserting code snippets)
I am aware that the plain old text option mostly works nowadays, but there are sometimes problems with that as well. A few months ago, it was totally broken as well in this regard.
Countless other forums out there have issues with preserving code formatting, not to mention some web-based chat systems where you might want to paste a code snippet.
If, for example, one guy uses tabs and one guy uses spaces, and the tab guy has his tabstop set to 2 or 4, while the spaces guy has left it at 8... well, stuff is going to look weird. Forcing everyone to the same convention is something you should be doing anyway, and I'd rather it happen automatically (by breaking stuff).
In languages that use delimiters as block and line markers, you can run a code beautifier to standardize the code, and even fix code that is horribly malformatted. If the white space gets screwed up really bad in a python program (line endings are deleted somehow), it will it not only fail to run, it will require a human to go in and unscrew it.
Not necessarily. Especially if the application used to view the code is not the same one that the code was written on.
List of annoyances I have with regarding Python and white space:
The way I read it, the first image was a prototype produced by a grad student. I still don't see any mention that the Average Joe could buy that particular keyboard. Also it is clear from the photo that not "each and every key" had an LCD... the enter and shift keys clearly do not.
What it does say you could buy is a keyboard where the function keys had LCDs in them. To me, that's pretty much useless and not much better than the little reference cards/stickers that came with some software that you installed around the function keys.
Well, I just found this, but there is still no mention of a mass produced keyboard that someone could buy that had an "lcd display in each and every keycap" as the grandparent poster said.
15 years ago you could buy keyboards with an lcd display in each and
every keycap.
Do you have any evidence for this? I just did quite a bit of searching and can find no evidence such a keyboard existed until this one was announced in 2005 (and only has function keys with programmable displays). This particular keyboard is evidently vaporware, and was announced after the Optimus keyboard, so it really doesn't count.
So, show us the evidence such a keyboard existed 15 years ago.
Until I can paste with a built-in physically distinct* middle mouse button on a MacBook, I'll stick with a generic laptop and Linux, thanks!
.
* That means a button that is not part of some other button or part of the trackpad, etc. An actual, for-the-purpose, and separate-from-other-objects (in the usual fashion) middle mouse button.
I suppose technically the keys are buttons. :)
I want three mouse buttons!
Yes, but those of us that want a real ****ing button with a real tactile click are out of luck. Especially people like me who think the pad is for pointing, the buttons are for clicking.
Until Apple sells a laptop with at least two (preferably three) independently clickable buttons, I'll never get one.
Oh, and a USB/bluetooth mouse or trackball is not an option. The point of a laptop is to have everything you want built-in. Ever try using a mouse on a plane?
Perhaps I am confused. The 1541 (stock form, no fastloaders or enhanced DOSes) was well known to be about the slowest disk drive on the planet.
How is it flamebait if it's the truth?
Well, there were numerous fastloaders for the hacking inclined.
And back then, weren't we all hackers...just a little bit? Cuz I think you had to be to get anything done!
True enough. I can still program in 6502 assembler. I'd definitely have to thank my old 8-bit machine for giving me an advantage when I was required to write MIPS assembly language in college. Plenty of other people who'd never seen assembly language before pretty much choked on it.
I was a die-hard C64 owner as a teenager. My buddy across the street had an Apple IIe and he was _always_ over at my house wanting to play my games.
Did he call you an hour ahead of time so by the time he got there your 1541 was just about done loading the game?
Your 64 may have had a better sound system, but that never made up for the slowness of the Commodore 1541 compared to an Apple Disk II.