I'm in the exact same boat as you, i7 920 clocked to the Moon here on water. Make no mistake the Sandy CPUs are a good bit quicker, I have one of those too. But I've been waiting for Ivy for my main desktop. SB-E is too damned expensive for the 6 core I want and has no H.264 code in it apparently. I'd love the added cores though! I feel pretty good after reading this -> http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_corei7_3770k/4.htm
Note they compare against an overclocked 920 running about the same speed I am now - the new Ivy kicks it's ass. Works for me! Now I just need to figure out what Z77 mobo to go with and what video card to go with, I'm running a card as old as my CPU and nothing current generation sold doesn't kick it's ass!
Depending upon what you have NOW this could very well be reason to upgrade. I'm on an i7 920 clocked to a bit over 4.2ghz. Judging from the benchmarks I'm seeing on this new CPU it's more than worth upgrading for me. Look at the overclocked benchmarks, particularly on video processing which is what I do a great deal of. The new CPU is a good bit faster and oh yeah uses less power. Considering that some of the processing I do sees as low as 8FPS I'd surely appreciate the kick in speed. Best part is being able to continue to use my existing water setup, case, and drives. Might be able to use memory too and I'll finally upgrade my video card to something still stocked in stores.
I guess it just depends on how old your existing system is and just how much you abuse it as to whether or not this is worth pursuing...
It's quite possible that spending those hundreds, if indeed you have a wiring issue, may save you a great deal more should something fail. It might even save your home! You shouldn't be having consistent issues with specific circuits. However if these are base up installs with the heat rising into the circuit at the base of the lamp then there's your issue - improper orientation. CFL have to be kept reasonably cool and that position cooks many of them. LED seem to be fine with it however
I've used and am using a previous generation Phillips bulb - has the same prongs and yellow exterior. Looks like a bug light bulb. It IS superior to any of the 8 or so other bulbs I've bought. Most of the others were either too dim, had poor color, or were too directional. Some of them were name brand too - I find Lowe's stocks the best selection BTW. This bulb though, it was able to be installed in a vertical torchier lamp just fine unlike any other. The light is warm and it spreads well. Yes, these cost bux - I got no rebates obviously - but they last and last. They are also instant-on without flicker. I'd suggest buying a couple and trying them in various fixtures to see if they are suitable. I have yet top try mine in my porch light but if it works there I'm buying a few - others really sucked in that application.
This new generation apparently uses less power so that's a bonus and yes I will buy some. The lifespan and the much much lower power usage plus the quality of the light makes them perfect. Sadly they will not work in a fixture I've got that's using a 100watt incandescent (I need light dammit) nor will they work in my outdoor floods. I can hardly wait for replacements for those!:-)
Pretty much my setup too except I run PlayOn on a Win7 desktop, I use it Windows daily anyway. But XBMC is on all of the PC attached to my TVs and works great!
3 years old and as pertinent as ever. I know someone who works in a manufacturing sector for highly specialized parts, China is a customer. It was VERY interesting that they sent a team of 10 to visit their plant to "inspect" and were quite pissed when they weren't given free reign to look around and were only allowed to inspect product in a sanitary room....
I have 4 of the ZOTAC ND01, one ASROC, and one ASUS. While I use the Zotac more than anything the ASUS and ASROC kick the crap out of it. My ASROC compiles FAR faster than the Zotac even with the Zotac overclocked, probably a HDD bottleneck. The Zotac I use are also an odd size. The ASUS, now THAT is sweet! A real wireless antenna like the box you linked and quite small. It;s a bit cheaper than the new Zotac too I think but swapping in memory is a PITA, HDD swap is through a tray in the bottom and rocks. My ASROC has a DVD drive, the rest do not and it's only ever used to boot Acronis for backups anyway. Important thing is to get ION graphics though, CPU isn't a concern.
I have one of the ASUS boxes an ASROC and about 4 Zotac ND01s. The ASUS is VERY nice and swapping HDD in it is cake. Memory not so much. IMO this is one of the better ION boxes around and runs XBMC extremely well.
Umm, no the remote works fine for me and many others - I use cheap MCE remotes. However since you're trying to get NetFlix running you're obviously doing this on Windows. Dump that and move to Ubuntu, you'll be happier. For Netflix and Amazon VOD I use PlayOn running on a windows desktop and DLNA - works fine for MANY WEB sources. That said, I prefer media off my own NAS at far higher quality
Since when is one person chatting with another and asking for "sexual favors" suddenly a sexual predator? If I'm hitting on a person and ask to see a naughty pic this is predatory behavior? If the person is of age and I'm of age WTF is the issue? If they asks me for a pic and I'm interested am I being preyed upon somehow? What if I welcome this, what's the issue? The assumptions here are tremendous IMO! Please tell me age plays SOME factor in all of this sheesh!
Endless power use but only so long as it's being used, size a tank for large showers and you heat it all the time. Mine is gas so no panel issues here. i agree the point of use units have potential issues, I didn't go with them for many reasons. But I do have a tankless and I have zero regrets and really advocate for them based on my experience. Check out what many restaurants etc. use.....
Honestly it's funny that everyone arguing against tankless seem to be doing it based on something they have read or heard about vs actually having one which those arguing FOR them all seem to be.
It should be pointed out that some gas fired tankless generate the power for spark from the moving water and don't require an electrical connection:-) Mine does though, oh well no hot water when power goes out.
Recirculating the water is a great idea when you've insulated all of your pipes - you've done that right? Otherwise you're just warming the walls for the convenience of having hot water instantly. Scaling is easy to solve with tankless - install a softener. Code requires it in my area and 5 years later my tankless is still working fine. My tank unit was so scaled it couldn't be drained when it was replaced, the water here is damn hard!
I like the idea of point of use heaters. If I could get that I'd consider it but I don't see being able to install those everywhere in an older home as being possible. In a new construction I think this would be awesome though and probably save water and perhaps even energy...
Umm, I've lived in the same home for more than 15 years. I have had to replace a water heater that leaked badly in that time and I've had two friends do the same - to include one that had a bad flood. To top it off I also had one friend who's thermostat fritz'd and they came home to a tank unit that was bubbling and gurgling like a small time bomb. the pop-off didn't fire and hopefully wold have but when they called me to ask what I thought I told them to shut it off NOW when they also mentioned how damned hot the spigot water was. It wasn't a huge consideration for me but not having a potential bomb\rocket in my home is a kind of nice thing I guess.
Anyway, tank water heaters are no panacea. Perhaps you've just not ever stayed in one place long enough to discover this?
One thing you forgot is that tankless is endless amount of hot water. Size it properly and no one gets a cold shower and everyone can shower at the same time while washing clothes. I moved to tankless when i did a renovation so costs to move and vent were already there no matter what. I did have to add a water softener but that benefited everyone too. My month to month costs during the Summer when gas isn't used for anything but water heating dropped in half but I'll admit that's only about $10 a month saved. the real bonus for me is being able to take a shower as long as I want or fill a Jacuzzi tub full without having to pay to heat a large tank - which I wouldn't have been able to fit anyway. For me the benefits have not all been things that get measured in dollars and cents...
I have a gas fired tankless water heater, so long as I don't run the larger pipes that go to the spa tub wide open in Winter I get endless HOT water. In Winter the incoming water temp drops enough that it cannot keep up with the larger pipes that run to that spigot, turning them back 1/4 turn is enough to solve this. My shower regulator in the shower is temp sensitive so any variations in pressure from flushing toilets etc. result in no temp change. The newest best tankless sense the issue of overrun and slow water flow but my unit is about 5 years old now and this didn't exist then. Mine also requires electricity to fire off the gas, some of the new ones don't as they generate their own spark. Being able to adjust hot water temp with a digital temp meter vs using a screwdriver on a hidden potentiometer is nice.
I compared the efficiency stickers on the outgoing tank vs the tankless. The tank was actually only a year old but my renovation meant it had to go. The tank had a rating in the middle, the tankless on the FAR left which was more efficient. Then I noticed, much to my shock, that the scales didn't even overlap! My tankless kicks the snot out of the tank unit it replaced to say the least. My gas bills in Summer when only hot water is being used used to be maybe $20 or so, they have dropped just about in HALF. Winter it's impossible to tell but I think it's clear the thing is saving me money and the fact that I can run the shower for an hour and still have HOT water simply rocks. I can also fill a damn big Jacuzzi spa tub to the brim with scalding hot water which is damn nice, I'd have had to upsize my previous tank to do this and driven costs up even more storing the water.
One thing to bear in mind with tankless though is that you MUST have soft water, I have a softener for this purpose that also filters. If you do not have soft water they will scale badly as the water boils going through. In my area code REQUIRES a softener, it's those that don't have this that may cause these to "die faster". I know that when my previous tank unit died it was so full of sediment and minerals that it couldn't be drained... The softer water makes for a nice shower experience and the clothes clean better, the addition of a filter is nice as well so it was win win all around.
Solar hot water is the ONLY thing that could beat this but the maintenance and install costs just wouldn't be worth it for me compared to the savings I already enjoy. This thing might not ever pay itself off I'll admit but the convenience I have is well worth it and I AM saving money vs a tank month to month. The heat pump tank units are also worth looking at but frankly the cost, space issues, and what to do with the wasted cold air make me pause. The space I needed to put my tankless in was small so a tank wouldn't have worked anyway, mine is the size of a small piece of luggage fit for carry-on!
Actually it's pretty straightforward - I have hardware and I have a choice between buying Win7 to install on it or going with Linux. I LIKE Win7, hell I liked Vista! I'm far from a Linux zealot and I still run both of those Windows OS at home today. Really when it comes to Linux I'm still learning and this project was one of my excuses to learn by doing, so cool your jets.
When faced with building multiple HTPC boxes that were going to cost me $200+ each anyway I didn't feel like paying a half to one third just for the OS. Linux was FREE to try, I tried it, and I "got it to work". Really, you make it sound like it was some really tough thing which is amusing. I followed a Wiki entry, Google, and asked questions when HDMI audio proved to be a PITA. I had it "working" in a day. I'd have followed much the same path had I done this on Win7, in fact I have because I've played with those capabilities on my desktop some too.
While this might not ship on the disk with a standard distro you CAN go into the tool that does ship and ask to install it and it will install binaries just like any other program. You can also download OpenElec or the XBMCbuntu distro and in that case yes indeed it DOES come built in or built specifically to run this program. Since HTPC tend to be dedicated this makes great sense.
What makes this program great is it's extensibility, it's looks, it's ease of use, it's ability to be used by those NOT skilled with a computer once setup, and the fact that it's FREE. Does that help?
Well, who would they give the secrets to? Unlike China the US isn't propping up a ton of industry the way the Chinese do. So, if you steal some super duper secret for a widget which manufacturer of widgets do you give it to? THAT is a huge problem with having the Govt. spy and I'm betting it's one of the reasons it's not done. How do you solve that?
What CEO are you aware of that's thinking long-term any more? They are ALL after short-term profits in the name of making some stupid reward goal so they get a big fat bonus, workers be damned! It makes the stock holders happy to see these numbers ala Apple but long term? Long term I think we're all going to have some BIG issues! I know guys that work in what little manufacturing still exists in the USA making things that are valuable to the Chinese and who refuse to source it over there knowing full well what will happen. So what happens? The Chinese INSIST on coming here to "inspect" how they do things and bring a team of scientists and engineers over to make sure that the product is "right". Yeah sure. Boy were they PISSED when they didn't get to see the plant or logon to any terminals. Instead they were shown to one bare room, fully escorted, and only allowed to inspect and measure the product.
Sadly, their networks were almost certainly penetrated afterwards but at least the scientists were kept away from the machinery during the visit. The Chinese are very very aggressive, it's scary.
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I'm in the exact same boat as you, i7 920 clocked to the Moon here on water. Make no mistake the Sandy CPUs are a good bit quicker, I have one of those too. But I've been waiting for Ivy for my main desktop. SB-E is too damned expensive for the 6 core I want and has no H.264 code in it apparently. I'd love the added cores though! I feel pretty good after reading this -> http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_corei7_3770k/4.htm
Note they compare against an overclocked 920 running about the same speed I am now - the new Ivy kicks it's ass. Works for me! Now I just need to figure out what Z77 mobo to go with and what video card to go with, I'm running a card as old as my CPU and nothing current generation sold doesn't kick it's ass!
forgot this -> http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_corei7_3770k/4.htm
Note that they overclock this CPU as well as the existing one I mentioned. The deltas are impressive IMO.
Depending upon what you have NOW this could very well be reason to upgrade. I'm on an i7 920 clocked to a bit over 4.2ghz. Judging from the benchmarks I'm seeing on this new CPU it's more than worth upgrading for me. Look at the overclocked benchmarks, particularly on video processing which is what I do a great deal of. The new CPU is a good bit faster and oh yeah uses less power. Considering that some of the processing I do sees as low as 8FPS I'd surely appreciate the kick in speed. Best part is being able to continue to use my existing water setup, case, and drives. Might be able to use memory too and I'll finally upgrade my video card to something still stocked in stores.
I guess it just depends on how old your existing system is and just how much you abuse it as to whether or not this is worth pursuing...
It's quite possible that spending those hundreds, if indeed you have a wiring issue, may save you a great deal more should something fail. It might even save your home! You shouldn't be having consistent issues with specific circuits. However if these are base up installs with the heat rising into the circuit at the base of the lamp then there's your issue - improper orientation. CFL have to be kept reasonably cool and that position cooks many of them. LED seem to be fine with it however
I've used and am using a previous generation Phillips bulb - has the same prongs and yellow exterior. Looks like a bug light bulb. It IS superior to any of the 8 or so other bulbs I've bought. Most of the others were either too dim, had poor color, or were too directional. Some of them were name brand too - I find Lowe's stocks the best selection BTW. This bulb though, it was able to be installed in a vertical torchier lamp just fine unlike any other. The light is warm and it spreads well. Yes, these cost bux - I got no rebates obviously - but they last and last. They are also instant-on without flicker. I'd suggest buying a couple and trying them in various fixtures to see if they are suitable. I have yet top try mine in my porch light but if it works there I'm buying a few - others really sucked in that application.
This new generation apparently uses less power so that's a bonus and yes I will buy some. The lifespan and the much much lower power usage plus the quality of the light makes them perfect. Sadly they will not work in a fixture I've got that's using a 100watt incandescent (I need light dammit) nor will they work in my outdoor floods. I can hardly wait for replacements for those! :-)
Pretty much my setup too except I run PlayOn on a Win7 desktop, I use it Windows daily anyway. But XBMC is on all of the PC attached to my TVs and works great!
For DRM channels I believe this only works on Win7 else I'd have one myself :-(
Tivo HD would also solve your issue. KMTTG allows you to pull and decode the video with no problems. So far I've not run into DRM issues.
You missed this one http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/3319656
3 years old and as pertinent as ever. I know someone who works in a manufacturing sector for highly specialized parts, China is a customer. It was VERY interesting that they sent a team of 10 to visit their plant to "inspect" and were quite pissed when they weren't given free reign to look around and were only allowed to inspect product in a sanitary room....
I have 4 of the ZOTAC ND01, one ASROC, and one ASUS. While I use the Zotac more than anything the ASUS and ASROC kick the crap out of it. My ASROC compiles FAR faster than the Zotac even with the Zotac overclocked, probably a HDD bottleneck. The Zotac I use are also an odd size. The ASUS, now THAT is sweet! A real wireless antenna like the box you linked and quite small. It;s a bit cheaper than the new Zotac too I think but swapping in memory is a PITA, HDD swap is through a tray in the bottom and rocks. My ASROC has a DVD drive, the rest do not and it's only ever used to boot Acronis for backups anyway. Important thing is to get ION graphics though, CPU isn't a concern.
Check out the ASUS -> http://www.amazon.com/Asus-EB1012PB0320-Eb1012p-Fcbga559-Desktop/dp/B004X1PICM/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1333841714&sr=1-3
Intel video was your first mistake. Go ION and watch video stutter free with VDPAU.
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-EB1012PB0320-Eb1012p-Fcbga559-Desktop/dp/B004X1PICM/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1333841714&sr=1-3
I believe swapping TPB with sabNSB\SickBeard\CouchPotatoe and perhaps Headphones would provide a better solution.
I have one of the ASUS boxes an ASROC and about 4 Zotac ND01s. The ASUS is VERY nice and swapping HDD in it is cake. Memory not so much. IMO this is one of the better ION boxes around and runs XBMC extremely well.
Umm, no the remote works fine for me and many others - I use cheap MCE remotes. However since you're trying to get NetFlix running you're obviously doing this on Windows. Dump that and move to Ubuntu, you'll be happier. For Netflix and Amazon VOD I use PlayOn running on a windows desktop and DLNA - works fine for MANY WEB sources. That said, I prefer media off my own NAS at far higher quality
If you lived in the US apparently you would be strip searched to top off the evening...
Since when is one person chatting with another and asking for "sexual favors" suddenly a sexual predator? If I'm hitting on a person and ask to see a naughty pic this is predatory behavior? If the person is of age and I'm of age WTF is the issue? If they asks me for a pic and I'm interested am I being preyed upon somehow? What if I welcome this, what's the issue? The assumptions here are tremendous IMO! Please tell me age plays SOME factor in all of this sheesh!
Endless power use but only so long as it's being used, size a tank for large showers and you heat it all the time. Mine is gas so no panel issues here. i agree the point of use units have potential issues, I didn't go with them for many reasons. But I do have a tankless and I have zero regrets and really advocate for them based on my experience. Check out what many restaurants etc. use.....
Honestly it's funny that everyone arguing against tankless seem to be doing it based on something they have read or heard about vs actually having one which those arguing FOR them all seem to be.
It should be pointed out that some gas fired tankless generate the power for spark from the moving water and don't require an electrical connection :-) Mine does though, oh well no hot water when power goes out.
Recirculating the water is a great idea when you've insulated all of your pipes - you've done that right? Otherwise you're just warming the walls for the convenience of having hot water instantly. Scaling is easy to solve with tankless - install a softener. Code requires it in my area and 5 years later my tankless is still working fine. My tank unit was so scaled it couldn't be drained when it was replaced, the water here is damn hard!
I like the idea of point of use heaters. If I could get that I'd consider it but I don't see being able to install those everywhere in an older home as being possible. In a new construction I think this would be awesome though and probably save water and perhaps even energy...
Umm, I've lived in the same home for more than 15 years. I have had to replace a water heater that leaked badly in that time and I've had two friends do the same - to include one that had a bad flood. To top it off I also had one friend who's thermostat fritz'd and they came home to a tank unit that was bubbling and gurgling like a small time bomb. the pop-off didn't fire and hopefully wold have but when they called me to ask what I thought I told them to shut it off NOW when they also mentioned how damned hot the spigot water was. It wasn't a huge consideration for me but not having a potential bomb\rocket in my home is a kind of nice thing I guess.
Anyway, tank water heaters are no panacea. Perhaps you've just not ever stayed in one place long enough to discover this?
One thing you forgot is that tankless is endless amount of hot water. Size it properly and no one gets a cold shower and everyone can shower at the same time while washing clothes. I moved to tankless when i did a renovation so costs to move and vent were already there no matter what. I did have to add a water softener but that benefited everyone too. My month to month costs during the Summer when gas isn't used for anything but water heating dropped in half but I'll admit that's only about $10 a month saved. the real bonus for me is being able to take a shower as long as I want or fill a Jacuzzi tub full without having to pay to heat a large tank - which I wouldn't have been able to fit anyway. For me the benefits have not all been things that get measured in dollars and cents...
I have a gas fired tankless water heater, so long as I don't run the larger pipes that go to the spa tub wide open in Winter I get endless HOT water. In Winter the incoming water temp drops enough that it cannot keep up with the larger pipes that run to that spigot, turning them back 1/4 turn is enough to solve this. My shower regulator in the shower is temp sensitive so any variations in pressure from flushing toilets etc. result in no temp change. The newest best tankless sense the issue of overrun and slow water flow but my unit is about 5 years old now and this didn't exist then. Mine also requires electricity to fire off the gas, some of the new ones don't as they generate their own spark. Being able to adjust hot water temp with a digital temp meter vs using a screwdriver on a hidden potentiometer is nice.
I compared the efficiency stickers on the outgoing tank vs the tankless. The tank was actually only a year old but my renovation meant it had to go. The tank had a rating in the middle, the tankless on the FAR left which was more efficient. Then I noticed, much to my shock, that the scales didn't even overlap! My tankless kicks the snot out of the tank unit it replaced to say the least. My gas bills in Summer when only hot water is being used used to be maybe $20 or so, they have dropped just about in HALF. Winter it's impossible to tell but I think it's clear the thing is saving me money and the fact that I can run the shower for an hour and still have HOT water simply rocks. I can also fill a damn big Jacuzzi spa tub to the brim with scalding hot water which is damn nice, I'd have had to upsize my previous tank to do this and driven costs up even more storing the water.
One thing to bear in mind with tankless though is that you MUST have soft water, I have a softener for this purpose that also filters. If you do not have soft water they will scale badly as the water boils going through. In my area code REQUIRES a softener, it's those that don't have this that may cause these to "die faster". I know that when my previous tank unit died it was so full of sediment and minerals that it couldn't be drained... The softer water makes for a nice shower experience and the clothes clean better, the addition of a filter is nice as well so it was win win all around.
Solar hot water is the ONLY thing that could beat this but the maintenance and install costs just wouldn't be worth it for me compared to the savings I already enjoy. This thing might not ever pay itself off I'll admit but the convenience I have is well worth it and I AM saving money vs a tank month to month. The heat pump tank units are also worth looking at but frankly the cost, space issues, and what to do with the wasted cold air make me pause. The space I needed to put my tankless in was small so a tank wouldn't have worked anyway, mine is the size of a small piece of luggage fit for carry-on!
Actually it's pretty straightforward - I have hardware and I have a choice between buying Win7 to install on it or going with Linux. I LIKE Win7, hell I liked Vista! I'm far from a Linux zealot and I still run both of those Windows OS at home today. Really when it comes to Linux I'm still learning and this project was one of my excuses to learn by doing, so cool your jets.
When faced with building multiple HTPC boxes that were going to cost me $200+ each anyway I didn't feel like paying a half to one third just for the OS. Linux was FREE to try, I tried it, and I "got it to work". Really, you make it sound like it was some really tough thing which is amusing. I followed a Wiki entry, Google, and asked questions when HDMI audio proved to be a PITA. I had it "working" in a day. I'd have followed much the same path had I done this on Win7, in fact I have because I've played with those capabilities on my desktop some too.
While this might not ship on the disk with a standard distro you CAN go into the tool that does ship and ask to install it and it will install binaries just like any other program. You can also download OpenElec or the XBMCbuntu distro and in that case yes indeed it DOES come built in or built specifically to run this program. Since HTPC tend to be dedicated this makes great sense.
What makes this program great is it's extensibility, it's looks, it's ease of use, it's ability to be used by those NOT skilled with a computer once setup, and the fact that it's FREE. Does that help?
Well, who would they give the secrets to? Unlike China the US isn't propping up a ton of industry the way the Chinese do. So, if you steal some super duper secret for a widget which manufacturer of widgets do you give it to? THAT is a huge problem with having the Govt. spy and I'm betting it's one of the reasons it's not done. How do you solve that?
What CEO are you aware of that's thinking long-term any more? They are ALL after short-term profits in the name of making some stupid reward goal so they get a big fat bonus, workers be damned! It makes the stock holders happy to see these numbers ala Apple but long term? Long term I think we're all going to have some BIG issues! I know guys that work in what little manufacturing still exists in the USA making things that are valuable to the Chinese and who refuse to source it over there knowing full well what will happen. So what happens? The Chinese INSIST on coming here to "inspect" how they do things and bring a team of scientists and engineers over to make sure that the product is "right". Yeah sure. Boy were they PISSED when they didn't get to see the plant or logon to any terminals. Instead they were shown to one bare room, fully escorted, and only allowed to inspect and measure the product.
Sadly, their networks were almost certainly penetrated afterwards but at least the scientists were kept away from the machinery during the visit. The Chinese are very very aggressive, it's scary.
Suggested reading -> http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/3319656