Geesh. Ok, how about we face the fact that the MURDER is the problem here.
1. Your message implies "who to sue". How about sue no one?! How about the personal responsibility of knowing 911 works this way when you buy the device... I own Vonage, no secret to me that 911 worked different. Pretty clear when I installed the device. Of course, everyone who visit the house know this? No... but damn, we DID NOT go through this bullshit when Cell Phones were new. 2. Murder is bad, so everyone is going to look to blame all kinds of things. But this is stupid human behavior and what makes much of the USA suck is our lack of accepting personal responsiblity (the person doing the murder). And our TV/Media always plays a role in in, making it seem like our government's main job is to keep John Q Public from killing Jim Q Public. 3. Yha, GPS. Uh huh. Let's use technology to solve problems created by technology... instead of #1 and #2.
I feel sad for the girl... but I also accept that you can't eliminate evil from the world... and every time you try to 'contain it' you just end up push it somewhere else. There are some things worth making a stand over... but come on, just a case of personal responsibility.
It is the government's job to solve all my problems! (911) Blah.
I suspect it's not up to Java levels yet. But it will be: C# offers exactly what Sun/Java lacks: the freedom to do with it whatever you want, and the freedom for big companies to contribute to the same piece of software without getting lawyers involved and without having one contributor benefit disproportionately.
Oh, lawyers will get involved:) Patents and stuff will be the next area of dotNet portability. Microsoft so far has let it slide, but is that because law is slow or because they intend to let it go?
I'm glad that dotGNU / Mono / Portable.net are out there - this is the best hope for the future of having true competition against Microsoft.
Cloning an API / programming langauge is one area that Microsoft seems mixed on. Didn't they start to challenge Samba? But WINE has gone untouched? Good to see we are fighting the good fight.
I think the grandparent has confused the only government can censor concept with freedom of speech is only a government right (vs. one a company can take away).
Of course, even then, the U.S. government can act like a company. I'm sure employees of the CIA (which have the "right to free speech") can sign a NDA to get their job.
And you want to know something the company as an entity can only donate the max of $2000 in the US.
sure, in direct cash. But come on, isn't there a term for less direct ways? "Pork Barrel".
If Intel is considering a new US$1B chip fab in your state, they don't have more influence on a topic than say a local bowling alley? Sure, but may have reasons to donate 2,000 max... but which one is more likely to get you re-elected / political favors / friends get great jobs / friends get dinner / friend in real estate cashes in.
I think on OSX, where Apple has much more consistent hardware base - things are.
The reason is simple: As long as Linux (or Windows) has to support some stupid framebuffer VGA card - the code has to be written to do it on the main CPU. So they write it that way.. and support an API for more advanced hardware.
Then the problem begins: Once you HAVE a way to do it without hardware assist... driver vendors get lazy and don't implement the API interface.
The PC industry has a LONG LONG history of hardware vendors who invest way too little in driver development.
pubjames wrote: We don't. I think the issue is that many Americans bang on about the USA being the land of freedom all the time, when in actual fact it is no better than the rest of the first world. And recently, a lot worse
Entire agreement from me. People don't seem to grasp that government in general, the centralization of power, can get out of control. It is the very people who give this government the powe by constantly askign the government to solve all their problems.
These things are happening in places outside the USA. But the USA was founded on principals of limiting power and never crossing certain ideal lines.
And your real point: Americans keep bragging about our freedom at the time we are trading it.
Ah, but the sad truth is that it may indeed be the american people who are responsible.
We have let laws be solutions to all our problems, we support our troops no matter what stupid things they have been ordered to do, etc.
We could have elected Ross Perot or some other person to shake up our government, but we didn't. It is about popularity / telling people what they want to hear.
Mob Democracy or apathy. Maybe the USA is just trapped in a cycle that it can not break. Invading Iraq seems like a do something because of 9/11 instead of any real logic being applied. Knee-jerk reaction, that is the modern American way.
What can we really do about it? Most people around you (the voting majority) just doesn't understand history, doesn't know how to debate with their neighbors or politicians, don't want to rock the boat. America is so vast, the voting majority doesn't get a chance to step outside and see what we really look like.
Only a small majority of people travel overseas and/or use tools like the internet to touch real people outside the USA. Most just use it as another form of Disney(TM) entertainment. Look at how news is nothing more than Edutainment(TM). It is sad to see fellow americans so ignorant of the constitution, bragging about how great America is right now and don't knock it.
If you look at SeattleWireless.net field day and so forth, you can see that people can get 1 mile or more with WiFi at full 11mbps speed.
You cite 100 feet...
The key to better range is directional antennas. A small one (smaller than most TV Antennas) on the roof does wonders. Outdoors with pure LOS is required, but you can get a lot further than 100 feet by putting all signal in one direction.
Many cell phones operate at 1.9Ghz, very similar to WiFi.
Well you appearantly overlooked the fact that this current story is about a guy w/ a flip phone who never pushed his talk button eithe
Humm... then you must not realize that on Motorola flip phones, you can set them to answer the call when you flip.... which just so happens to be equal to pressing the talk button.
Of course, this is the stupid point... if your phone is even TURNED ON it has to transmit on a incoming call, even if you don't answer it. It ACKs the tower.
Because most of us dont want to settle to restarting an App every day or reformating every month. We don't want cheap windows workarounds, we want software that works.
I don't disagree with your point, I'm just feeding...
Most of us means/. users, and we aren't the normal buch (in terms of quantity):)
However, with CAP H....
The reality is that you do drive a car that requires oil change every 3000 miles or the dirt will kill it. Engine rebuild every 70,000 miles. AKA, VW Aircooled engine circa 1969.
Computers still have a LONG wan to go, horn or not.
Regardless of what the 'average jo/joe' user wants he/she either deals with the (current++) reality or not. Not == moves on to something else (other than computers; GOTO ELSE).
Older RAM can be expensive... and many motherboards choke if you mix brands/models (slight speed differences). Let alone the fact that many boards are maxed out with low-density DIMM's and you would have to re-purchase the amount you have...
Laptop / portable systems... often very difficult to upgrade and they often don't have much RAM capacity in the first place.
Old hardware tricks are about making do. A $80 upgrade for a $30 system may not make sense to someone doing it for a special project.
Cereal box said: And I'm sure that you had to make sure that those pieces of hardware worked with Linux before actually buying them. The nice thing about Windows is that you can pick any random piece of hardware off the "PC" shelf at the store and know that it ships with drivers and support for Windows.
I'll let you in on a little secret from the Windows side of the fence...
Hardware developers suck at drivers period. There are drivers for Windows, but many of them are very poor quality. USB devices that crash on removal (CoPilot 2003's GPS hardware)... printers that don't print laytout right, WiFi drivers that work but won't let you share a connection (some mode not implemented?).
The hardware and PC industry in general is still young and not mature. Windows may have more drivers, but they have their own share of problems.
Computer professionals thing it is all about Windows vs. whatever... and it isn't... we are all still learning the problem and most of those 'outside the industry' consider computer reliability and maturity as a joke. Regardless of the OS or vendor...
First off, I don't know much about the case and laws in Norway...
However, I do know in the US you _can_ be tried for a crime more than once. Especially in case like this were 'time of war' = 'terror' label is slapped on the crime (which the French company did).
Also - consider that OJ Simpsons had two trials: one for criminal, the one for a private lawsuit (IIRC, he was found guilty).
I don't agree... It does matter. There are those of us who still use email, despite the spam (and phishing that this story is about).
And when I get a legit looking letter that looks like a real notice from a domain registrar, web site I have account with (PayPal, eBay, eSnipe, Mwave, NewEgg, etc.) - then I want to respond.
Business is about relationship with customer and company... you SHOULD read your notices that your account is past due, that your account was hacked and you need to change your password
Fraud and crime sucks no matter what part of your life. Don't just accept it. Yes, things are not what they used to be on the Internet... it is the job of the geek to help educate the masses and to help track down the as*holes.
I'm searching for the cheapest way to get a 64-bit processor with 16GB of RAM.
There are some Opteron motherboards but you have to purchase very expensive 2GB DIMM modules with only 8 slots...
Anyone aware of a motherboard that has 16 slots and will take 1GB DIMM modules? Reliable?
For 8GB, I found the Sun Blade 1000's are pretty cheap to get on eBay. I got a 8GB dual 750Mhz system for $4500 used. However, it is maxed out at 8GB...
I figure someone in this thread would have something to share. Thanks.
I think those in the Open Source community are ignoring this 64bit issue...
In many ways Microsoft outdid IBM by playing the platform change. Why? Well, because backward binary compatibility. It is one thing to do the API's, but thunking kills you.
In open source -- hello - the future of Linux is Gentoo. we are talking (on this Slashdot story) SERVERS HERE, people who are willing to compile... FreeBSD and OpenBSD have demonstrated that.
With open source you can recompile all you binaries and not have any need to mix modes. If you have to run 32bit combined with 64bit, do it over the network... not on the same machine.
Microsoft will have to support binary compatibility... and that will hurt...
A 64-bit native Linux running Wine as a 'compatibility box' sounds a lot like OS/2 2.0 'windows mode' was during the bridge to 32-bit. Too bad IBM didn't know how to market their product...
Linux users, are you listening?
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Actually the same condition exists with the drivers.
The drivers are keyed to only work with the cardID they recognize in the Windows world. YOu can't use a downloaded Orinoco driver with the Dell model... and they are similar out of date.
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Geesh. Ok, how about we face the fact that the MURDER is the problem here.
1. Your message implies "who to sue". How about sue no one?! How about the personal responsibility of knowing 911 works this way when you buy the device... I own Vonage, no secret to me that 911 worked different. Pretty clear when I installed the device. Of course, everyone who visit the house know this? No... but damn, we DID NOT go through this bullshit when Cell Phones were new.
2. Murder is bad, so everyone is going to look to blame all kinds of things. But this is stupid human behavior and what makes much of the USA suck is our lack of accepting personal responsiblity (the person doing the murder). And our TV/Media always plays a role in in, making it seem like our government's main job is to keep John Q Public from killing Jim Q Public.
3. Yha, GPS. Uh huh. Let's use technology to solve problems created by technology... instead of #1 and #2.
I feel sad for the girl... but I also accept that you can't eliminate evil from the world... and every time you try to 'contain it' you just end up push it somewhere else. There are some things worth making a stand over... but come on, just a case of personal responsibility.
It is the government's job to solve all my problems! (911) Blah.
I suspect it's not up to Java levels yet. But it will be: C# offers exactly what Sun/Java lacks: the freedom to do with it whatever you want, and the freedom for big companies to contribute to the same piece of software without getting lawyers involved and without having one contributor benefit disproportionately.
:) Patents and stuff will be the next area of dotNet portability. Microsoft so far has let it slide, but is that because law is slow or because they intend to let it go?
Oh, lawyers will get involved
I'm glad that dotGNU / Mono / Portable.net are out there - this is the best hope for the future of having true competition against Microsoft.
Cloning an API / programming langauge is one area that Microsoft seems mixed on. Didn't they start to challenge Samba? But WINE has gone untouched? Good to see we are fighting the good fight.
These two companies have been beaten by Microsoft playing the game better then them.
So what are they doing 15 years later? Playing back with Linux.
Open Source is not about free for these guys, it is increasing becoming a corporate game (Novell and IBM) with big profits.
Mono / dotGNU is about trying to treat the application developers equal. This is a chance to start over with Java-like technology.
Like it or not, don't ignore C# / dotNet. It likely has more users than Sun got in 10 years, anyone have numbers to share on that?
I think you are entirely right.
I think the grandparent has confused the only government can censor concept with freedom of speech is only a government right (vs. one a company can take away).
Of course, even then, the U.S. government can act like a company. I'm sure employees of the CIA (which have the "right to free speech") can sign a NDA to get their job.
And you want to know something the company as an entity can only donate the max of $2000 in the US.
sure, in direct cash. But come on, isn't there a term for less direct ways? "Pork Barrel".
If Intel is considering a new US$1B chip fab in your state, they don't have more influence on a topic than say a local bowling alley? Sure, but may have reasons to donate 2,000 max... but which one is more likely to get you re-elected / political favors / friends get great jobs / friends get dinner / friend in real estate cashes in.
I think on OSX, where Apple has much more consistent hardware base - things are.
The reason is simple: As long as Linux (or Windows) has to support some stupid framebuffer VGA card - the code has to be written to do it on the main CPU. So they write it that way.. and support an API for more advanced hardware.
Then the problem begins: Once you HAVE a way to do it without hardware assist... driver vendors get lazy and don't implement the API interface.
The PC industry has a LONG LONG history of hardware vendors who invest way too little in driver development.
Then promptly watch ISP's shut down these early adopters for actually using their broadband connection at full capacity...
pubjames wrote: We don't. I think the issue is that many Americans bang on about the USA being the land of freedom all the time, when in actual fact it is no better than the rest of the first world. And recently, a lot worse
Entire agreement from me. People don't seem to grasp that government in general, the centralization of power, can get out of control. It is the very people who give this government the powe by constantly askign the government to solve all their problems.
These things are happening in places outside the USA. But the USA was founded on principals of limiting power and never crossing certain ideal lines.
And your real point: Americans keep bragging about our freedom at the time we are trading it.
Hopefully the trend will reverse.
Ah, but the sad truth is that it may indeed be the american people who are responsible.
We have let laws be solutions to all our problems, we support our troops no matter what stupid things they have been ordered to do, etc.
We could have elected Ross Perot or some other person to shake up our government, but we didn't. It is about popularity / telling people what they want to hear.
Mob Democracy or apathy. Maybe the USA is just trapped in a cycle that it can not break. Invading Iraq seems like a do something because of 9/11 instead of any real logic being applied. Knee-jerk reaction, that is the modern American way.
What can we really do about it? Most people around you (the voting majority) just doesn't understand history, doesn't know how to debate with their neighbors or politicians, don't want to rock the boat. America is so vast, the voting majority doesn't get a chance to step outside and see what we really look like.
Only a small majority of people travel overseas and/or use tools like the internet to touch real people outside the USA. Most just use it as another form of Disney(TM) entertainment. Look at how news is nothing more than Edutainment(TM). It is sad to see fellow americans so ignorant of the constitution, bragging about how great America is right now and don't knock it.
If you look at SeattleWireless.net field day and so forth, you can see that people can get 1 mile or more with WiFi at full 11mbps speed.
You cite 100 feet...
The key to better range is directional antennas. A small one (smaller than most TV Antennas) on the roof does wonders. Outdoors with pure LOS is required, but you can get a lot further than 100 feet by putting all signal in one direction.
Many cell phones operate at 1.9Ghz, very similar to WiFi.
Well you appearantly overlooked the fact that this current story is about a guy w/ a flip phone who never pushed his talk button eithe
Humm... then you must not realize that on Motorola flip phones, you can set them to answer the call when you flip.... which just so happens to be equal to pressing the talk button.
Of course, this is the stupid point... if your phone is even TURNED ON it has to transmit on a incoming call, even if you don't answer it. It ACKs the tower.
Because most of us dont want to settle to restarting an App every day or reformating every month. We don't want cheap windows workarounds, we want software that works.
/. users, and we aren't the normal buch (in terms of quantity) :)
I don't disagree with your point, I'm just feeding...
Most of us means
However, with CAP H....
The reality is that you do drive a car that requires oil change every 3000 miles or the dirt will kill it. Engine rebuild every 70,000 miles. AKA, VW Aircooled engine circa 1969.
Computers still have a LONG wan to go, horn or not.
Regardless of what the 'average jo/joe' user wants he/she either deals with the (current++) reality or not. Not == moves on to something else (other than computers; GOTO ELSE).
I'll chime in for th3e parent...
Older RAM can be expensive... and many motherboards choke if you mix brands/models (slight speed differences). Let alone the fact that many boards are maxed out with low-density DIMM's and you would have to re-purchase the amount you have...
Laptop / portable systems... often very difficult to upgrade and they often don't have much RAM capacity in the first place.
Old hardware tricks are about making do. A $80 upgrade for a $30 system may not make sense to someone doing it for a special project.
And don't overlook how many rapid programs are written in C and become buffer overflow ridden security nightmares.
Cereal box said: And I'm sure that you had to make sure that those pieces of hardware worked with Linux before actually buying them. The nice thing about Windows is that you can pick any random piece of hardware off the "PC" shelf at the store and know that it ships with drivers and support for Windows.
I'll let you in on a little secret from the Windows side of the fence...
Hardware developers suck at drivers period. There are drivers for Windows, but many of them are very poor quality. USB devices that crash on removal (CoPilot 2003's GPS hardware)... printers that don't print laytout right, WiFi drivers that work but won't let you share a connection (some mode not implemented?).
The hardware and PC industry in general is still young and not mature. Windows may have more drivers, but they have their own share of problems.
Computer professionals thing it is all about Windows vs. whatever... and it isn't... we are all still learning the problem and most of those 'outside the industry' consider computer reliability and maturity as a joke. Regardless of the OS or vendor...
First off, I don't know much about the case and laws in Norway...
However, I do know in the US you _can_ be tried for a crime more than once. Especially in case like this were 'time of war' = 'terror' label is slapped on the crime (which the French company did).
Also - consider that OJ Simpsons had two trials: one for criminal, the one for a private lawsuit (IIRC, he was found guilty).
I agree... however, the parent you replied to...
Video drivers, buggy anti-virus (which hooks every file system call you make), even third-party power management, etc.
Bad RAM could also cause subtle problems like he mentions. But it sounds more like bad componetns added to the OS.
Yha, and domain typo squatters, etc.
Surfing was 'fun', now it has become a nightmare.
I don't agree... It does matter. There are those of us who still use email, despite the spam (and phishing that this story is about).
And when I get a legit looking letter that looks like a real notice from a domain registrar, web site I have account with (PayPal, eBay, eSnipe, Mwave, NewEgg, etc.) - then I want to respond.
Business is about relationship with customer and company... you SHOULD read your notices that your account is past due, that your account was hacked and you need to change your password
Fraud and crime sucks no matter what part of your life. Don't just accept it. Yes, things are not what they used to be on the Internet... it is the job of the geek to help educate the masses and to help track down the as*holes.
I agree, most users don't even pay attention to the lock.
And even if they do... SO WHAT -- gee your data is encrypted for the 100ms it travels between your PC and the web server.
But is the web server itself secure? Most aren't... most are written by ASP + PHP programmers who have no clue about SQL Injection.
You can put a lot of personal data in 8KB.
:)
You assume the government is efficent
Speaking of such a project.
I'm searching for the cheapest way to get a 64-bit processor with 16GB of RAM.
There are some Opteron motherboards but you have to purchase very expensive 2GB DIMM modules with only 8 slots...
Anyone aware of a motherboard that has 16 slots and will take 1GB DIMM modules? Reliable?
For 8GB, I found the Sun Blade 1000's are pretty cheap to get on eBay. I got a 8GB dual 750Mhz system for $4500 used. However, it is maxed out at 8GB...
I figure someone in this thread would have something to share. Thanks.
damn, I should have put this quote on my second message :)
"I believe OS/2 is destined to become the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time." -- Bill Gates.
I can't date that quote... but it is from the first platform war. I did find a 1994 reference to it on Usenet.
I think those in the Open Source community are ignoring this 64bit issue...
In many ways Microsoft outdid IBM by playing the platform change. Why? Well, because backward binary compatibility. It is one thing to do the API's, but thunking kills you.
In open source -- hello - the future of Linux is Gentoo. we are talking (on this Slashdot story) SERVERS HERE, people who are willing to compile... FreeBSD and OpenBSD have demonstrated that.
With open source you can recompile all you binaries and not have any need to mix modes. If you have to run 32bit combined with 64bit, do it over the network... not on the same machine.
Microsoft will have to support binary compatibility... and that will hurt...
A 64-bit native Linux running Wine as a 'compatibility box' sounds a lot like OS/2 2.0 'windows mode' was during the bridge to 32-bit. Too bad IBM didn't know how to market their product...
Linux users, are you listening?
Actually the same condition exists with the drivers.
The drivers are keyed to only work with the cardID they recognize in the Windows world. YOu can't use a downloaded Orinoco driver with the Dell model... and they are similar out of date.