Ever since redhat was started, dot zero releases are like the front bumper of car that was driven 1300 miles in south Georgia and Florida in the summer.
On the other hand, you have devices like the TiVo. People hack it all the time, adding hard drive space, etc. The people who make TiVo took a different approach, which basically allows you to do what you want with your TiVo for use in your home, with the understanding that any warrantee is null and void. I have heard very little negative response to TiVo, because the TiVo people did not have a negative response to the hackers.
Woah, really? HECK! I'll go buy one today if I could someone hook it up to a LAN.
18. The network address translation system of claim 17, wherein the multiple fields further include one or more holes fields which may be set to specify that exceptions to a security algorithm employed by the network address translation system to prevent suspicious packets from reaching the private network.
After reading everything, it sounds alot like what ipchains and ipfilter does.
How it's diffence from ipchains or ipfilter please tell me!!
Americans, unlike Aussies, were united by states, with states having *some* power over the fedral goverment. The Brits and Aussies were united by a queen who everyone loved and a parilment who did the real goverment work, becuase of this they are more likly to "go with the flow" the goverment. Since they "love the mother of the empire", through today Aussies want nothing to do with the queen but they still respect her.
It's a matter of the respecting the goverment. Americans were born not to trust the goverment, and rightfully so, where Aussies has a higher respect for thier goverment, and rightfully so. The aussie goverment doesn't have enough nukes to blow us to hell. They don't want to control other people. The Aussie goverment is not power hungy bastards like the American Goverment.
I'm a Aussie living in America who can't wait move to Perth.
What hobbyist can put 3-man years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute for free? <p>
Linus!
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Businesses and politicians corrupt people
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Business isn't the problem. Humanity is, and by extension, _we_ are the problem.
Right, but I feel you fail to really see the realtionship between business, common people and goverment.
Business relies on common people to fund them, the goverment also relies on common people to fund them too. With a relationship of two thing so powerful with the same goals in mind, it easy to screw over people.
Think about this, say we vote someone into office. He (or she) seams like a good honest person. A business man comes up to him and offer him and 400 other people outragest gifts and reward for voting one way. The bill they vote on is, let's say the DMCA. The media, which is the one *REALLY* in control of the people, protries it as a great bill to help the artist, and say something along the line of "it's for the childern, save the childern. protect the work of your childern" and everyone in the public think, oh yeah! These guys are doing great things for us. Little do they know the law that they pass is the root of all evil to be. And if it fails, someone rewrites it until it something the people will fall for.
Ok you're going to blam the people, "humanity as a whole". That's fine. But where do people get the real information about the subjects? They aren't born with it. They have to be tought. Where do they get tought? Schools! Who are the schools? The Goverment!
Most people send thier kids into goverment school, teaching socialism and how to be a productive, mindless slave for "the good of society". Then kids leave goverment schools and where do they end up? Most of them go to "Public Colleges". Who run these schools? Business people!! People who only goal is to make money. Sure there are a few school theach ideas, but most soul goal is to make money, and produce people who make money for businesses.
Great! We have a group of people that are mindless slaves to corparations with the ideas of socialism implaneted there by the goverment and businesses.
And we are the problem? No, we are not the people, the problem is the ideas that been implanted by businesses and politicians over 200 years. Heck the idea1 might been around for 1000's of years.
Or it's becuase all the mindless slaves people living in this world don't vote, and leave people in office. Most people don't want the goverment in thier lives, and which to live free without worries. Today politicians are selling votes, like businesses sell products. Heck, you could tell people "we are going to have a income tax, but don't worry, we will only tax the "rich"". Opps, that worked.
What are people really voting for anyways? A idea? A idea of what? A way to live thier lives?
Where do they get these ideas? Do they want what they know to be good? What do they know? They know that they are slaves and can everything surpiled to them.
Isn't that what the goverment is today?
I think it is.
The US is screwed. It's too late to change it. Just like all goverments in the past, time is up for the US goverment.
It'll be interesting to see how the P4 fares in all this with its 400 mhz front side bus
However unlikly, if this bus is the same 400mhz, 8 bit bus of rambus, it's going to be slow.
Rambus uses a 8 bit bus where DDR SDRAM uses 32 bits at 200 mhz. That's 8bits*400mhz=3,200 and 32bits*200mhz=6,400.
How about an alpha? It uses a 64 bit bus at 200mhz. 64bits*200mhz=12,800.
How fast will the P4 fare in all of this? Well, once the info get there, it's going to be fast, but it might take a while, oh, and don't try to push it.
Funny how everything has moved forward, but Rambus and Intel is trying to drop a 8 bit on our heads.
Sorry, I won't buy a P4, just like I haven't bought anything after the p233 from them.
I guess advertising on the internet is as inevitable as advertising on radio. In twenty years, no-one will even think twice about the fact that the internet requires everyone to watch at ads.
Of course the PSA's on Ablum 88.5 can be a bit annoy. The same for Bootz's ads for new replacement windows and whiteteeth. But at least I don't have to hear a morons ask stupid questions about thier stupid brakes job insult everyone that listens.
You're on a UNIX server setting something up through a ssh session. You need to look a some doc on a web site. What are you going to do?
1) hit ctrl-z, lynx website.org
or
2) a)if in unix, fire up netscape (becuase it crashed), pray to god it doesn't crash again, type in web site, cance find site, type in www.website.com, wait for the images to load then read your doc
2) b) if in windows, open IE, tell it to stop, get the annoying "action cancel page", type in website.com, wait, get "unable to load page", hit stop, get cancel page, type in www.website.com, wait for connection, wait some more, and five minutes latter get to the page
How many things in the world once thought to be impossiable are very possiable today?
Was it impossiable to think 50 years ago everyone could have a computer on thier desks?
Was it impossiable to have a network to connect everyone to everyone else linked by light?
Was it impossiable to think man would walk on the moon?
Was it impossiable understand the atom?
Was it impossiable to build a pymind of limestone in the middle of a desert?
Was it impossiable to drag huge stones to a field inright them, and build a circle?
Was it impossiable for the king and queen to lose all meaningful power in europe?
...and the list goes on...
There is so many thing that was once thought impossiable that are very possiable today. Everything you state here can be changed or invented in the next 50 years. Look how far we have come in the last 100 years. Lights, cars, airplanes, computer, nukes, radio, the internet, lasers and so many other things.
Anything with a people with enough will power behind it, is possible.
I will be saying weeeeeeeee.... all the way to the top.
Maybe it will be one of the really fast one like the ones in the Hilton in Atlanta. If it is, I can see 1000's of geeks riding just to get the g's. Maybe they will have a couch for all the drunk, stoned, or tired freaks whole can't stand just Dargon Con '00.
For every example of a successful person that went to college there is 10 people that I can give that are failures, I can do the same every person that didn't go to college. The fact is it's the person and their choice of their path that determines if the person will be successful, not where they receive their knowledge.
Sure, college is a place that can develop a higher level of knowledge and of course it will prepare people to do better, but there is no reason to say someone that choose not to go to college, will be a failure.
The truth is, currently most tech jobs doesn't require a level of knowledge that can't be achieved outside of what can be learned in two year reading every book in the computer section of a good book store. Why should anyone that don't have funds to waste go to college?
My parents aren't rich. I'm also the youngest of four. My parents worked their butts off to get my sisters through school. By the time it was my turn to go, my parents couldn't afford it. If I went to college, I would still be in school, and I would still be broke, and I would most likly have a huge loan hanging over my head. Going to college wasn't the best choice for me. I had a chance to get into a high paying job if I just applied myself to teach myself. As any other smart geek, I don't want to waste my time going to school for twenty hours and then working 40 hours at the local supermarket.
I'm currently 22 and making $60k a year. I run a large network for a dot com. The CTO has seen everything in his 30 years and have told me time and time again that I know my stuff. Sure, I don't know everything. Maybe if I went to college I would know more about calculus, but it doesn't matter right now. My job is make sure the network is up. It's my job to make sure the servers are running at top speed. It doesn't matter if I know Knuth-Morris-Pratt string matching algorithm, heck I don't know what it even is! How would that help me run the network today? It simply won't. Will knowing that put money in my pocket today? no.
I'm not degrading a college education, but degrading someone because they don't have one is wrong. In the next year, I will go to Georgia Tech, and I will get a BSCS by the age of 30 and a MSCS by the age of 35. It is my goal.
I can afford it now and keep my life style. I won't have to worry about eating roman noodles, if I will get a job when I get, or even question why I'm sitting in the class. If I won't to take less clesses I can. I can leave school for a year if I want. I will be in control of my own education, not the goal of monetray gain. I will still have my job and my skills. I won't even have to worry about getting an "A" or "E" like my friend today. Next year, when I do go, I'm going becuase I want to, not becuase I have to.
When I am the lead of a large datacenter, knowing Linear Algebra or Statistics and Probability will help me, but today, it won't.
But, because barcode aren't encrypted, the DMCA doesn't apply at all. The UCITA does, if you're in a location that has it, but that's it. And that only applies if you install the software.
If the out was only the barcode, no, it can not be copyrighted, but if the output from the CueCat is copyrightable, then it's protected by the DMCA.
MarNuke, you are an idiot and should refrain from posting anything about the law. There's a good chance that people who haven't yet been corrupted by your idiocy will read your post, think you know what you're talking about, and conclude that the DMCA is somehow relevant here. It isn't. Please go home and kill yourself immediately, preferably slowly and painfully.
You are going to call me a idiot when you fail to realize that the DMCA is no way what so ever relevant in this bs over this damn cuecat?
You are the fool, the idiot, the moron, or what ever you want to say about me. You are the one that can't put one and one together and come up with something corelated with another thing.
How would you explain it? You can't, you are to damn stupid to piece something together. If you ever read the damn DMCA you would understand that this is 100% involed with DMCA, and you would understand that before the DMCA something like this would be luaghed and tossed out of court before it's even reached the judge, and the planfit would be left crying. That is why we have the DMCA today!!
If you had a single working brain cell, you would understand that the law that protect non-digtal products are no longer the same laws that protect digtal products.
As far as people being corrupted, people have the freedom to make thier own choices, and to also have the freedom to express themself, but maybe you haven't heard that one? Maybe you don't know what give me the right and the right of others to express my feeling?
How about instead of my shutting up about the how this story is releated to the DMCA and instead tell the reading out there where to read the DMCA for their selves and they can make thier own choice. But maybe you don't believe that? Maybe you think we should all shut the hell up about the DMCA and have it rammed up our ass?? Isn't that what got us into this mess? It's lazy, stupid fucks that tell people to shutup and be quite that put us into the mess, and it's the strong willed people that won't back down that will get us through it. Go rape a dog you damn Nazi bastard.
I'm finshing wasting my time with a moron like you.
If the output of the cuecat contain information that is copyrightable then, reverse engeering it could be legal. Let's look at the ula:
"... [The] CueCat reader contain trade secrets and other proprietary information of Digital:Convergence and its licensors"
Does the output of the CueCat contain proprietary information and/or copyrighted information?
But like you said, is the serial number infomation copyrightable? I would have to find out more information about the output of the cuecat. I bet you "something" in the output is copyrighted. Heck if they put "CueCat" in the output somewhere, that would be copyrightable, and therefor protected under the DMCA!!! Scary...
The ula states that, in more or less words everything about the cuecat is copyrighted,here it is:
Copyright :CRQ and:CueCat are trademarks of DigitalConvergence.:com Inc. Copyright 1999-2000 DigitalConvergence.:com Inc. All rights reserved.
The DMCA prohibits gaining unauthorized access to a work by circumventing a technological protection measure put in place by the copyright owner where such protection measure otherwise effectively controls access to a copyrighted work
The copyrighted work is the serial number implanted the data output of the cuecat. Not the barcode.
Or are you claiming that the DMCA covers the:C:C in some other bizarre way? No other data is being copied with the Linux driver, so I don't see how it could be anything else.
Is the serial number data copied by the linux driver? yes.
Hold on there buddy!! If this statement is picked apart it's completely flawed!
I'm assuming you mean that the:C:C is protecting copyrighted data in barcodes,
First NEVER EVER ASS-U-ME. The:C:C is not protecting copyrighted data in barcodes.
because the DMCA only covers copyrighted data.
duh.
Decoding the output of the:C:C isn't accessing protected works, it's descrambling data that could be gotten by merely using a normal barcode scanner.
yes, but!
The scrambling is being done in the:C:C, not in the barcode.
This is what IS protected, and the DMCA states if you try to go around this scrambling you are "circumvent[ing] a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title [DMCA]."
Do you understand what that means? If there is some simple, stupid, piece of junk "technological measure" and you try to decode it, you are breaking the DMCA.
Believe what you want to believe, but that is the what the DMCA does. You can ignore this, and ignore what I said on my other posts, but damn it, it's the f'ing law. Go read the damn DMCA! You can hide your head in the sand, ignore the DMCA, and wish it will go away, BUT IT WON'T unless you do something about it. The sad thing is it to late, and to many powerful minds to change to get it repealed.
We are in a "new world order" and the people will get screwed, so go ahead and believe the crap you posted here.
Yes, but they don't have a legal leg to stand on. Nobody is misusing their intellectual property by using their hardware. Intellectual property would be a patent on barcoding, but they don't have one. Intellectual property would be a copyright, but I can use their hardware without breaking the shrink-wrap on their copyrighted software.
To use their hardware it prefectly legal. The thing is, their software is in the firmware. The firmware is their intellectual property. To use the cuecat, you have to use the firmware. To go around the firmware is strictly prohibted by the DMCA.
Here it is:
Sec. 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems
(a) Violations Regarding Circumvention of Technological Measures. - (1)(A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall take effect at the end of the 2-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this chapter.
Basicly, becuase of the lame Base64-XOR, it's protected, since it's a "a technological measure that effectively controls access".
Why they think that some third party developing a compatible driver is a violation of their IP. Does this mean that Ford, GM and Chrysler could sue Haynes and Chilton for publishing manuals on the repair of the vehicles? <p>
Non-digtal products are not protected by the DMCA. The cuecat software is.
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You can take the scanner itself apart all day long with a number 1 screw driver until you get bored, but if you reverse engineer the software the cuecat use, it is illegal since the software is protected by the DMCA.
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MarNuke
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Ever since redhat was started, dot zero releases are like the front bumper of car that was driven 1300 miles in south Georgia and Florida in the summer.
Wait until RedHat x.1 to downgrade.
Who runs that old operating system now-a-days anyways??
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90% of the luser who use computers, opps, i ment to say windows...
I second that!
After three story on the same subject we should have a dead horse icon.
Woah, really? HECK! I'll go buy one today if I could someone hook it up to a LAN.
Yeah but you ain't going to be putting no upc or small device in my body!!
OH MAN!!! YOU WENT THERE!!!
Nothing is so important i have to take the mark of the beast!! I refuse to take the mark of the beast!!!
18. The network address translation system of claim 17, wherein the multiple fields further include one or more holes fields which may be set to specify that exceptions to a security algorithm employed by the network address translation system to prevent suspicious packets from reaching the private network.
After reading everything, it sounds alot like what ipchains and ipfilter does.
How it's diffence from ipchains or ipfilter please tell me!!
Americans, unlike Aussies, were united by states, with states having *some* power over the fedral goverment. The Brits and Aussies were united by a queen who everyone loved and a parilment who did the real goverment work, becuase of this they are more likly to "go with the flow" the goverment. Since they "love the mother of the empire", through today Aussies want nothing to do with the queen but they still respect her.
It's a matter of the respecting the goverment. Americans were born not to trust the goverment, and rightfully so, where Aussies has a higher respect for thier goverment, and rightfully so. The aussie goverment doesn't have enough nukes to blow us to hell. They don't want to control other people. The Aussie goverment is not power hungy bastards like the American Goverment.
I'm a Aussie living in America who can't wait move to Perth.
What hobbyist can put 3-man years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute for free?
<p>
Linus!
<p>
Right, but I feel you fail to really see the realtionship between business, common people and goverment.
Business relies on common people to fund them, the goverment also relies on common people to fund them too. With a relationship of two thing so powerful with the same goals in mind, it easy to screw over people.
Think about this, say we vote someone into office. He (or she) seams like a good honest person. A business man comes up to him and offer him and 400 other people outragest gifts and reward for voting one way. The bill they vote on is, let's say the DMCA. The media, which is the one *REALLY* in control of the people, protries it as a great bill to help the artist, and say something along the line of "it's for the childern, save the childern. protect the work of your childern" and everyone in the public think, oh yeah! These guys are doing great things for us. Little do they know the law that they pass is the root of all evil to be. And if it fails, someone rewrites it until it something the people will fall for.
Ok you're going to blam the people, "humanity as a whole". That's fine. But where do people get the real information about the subjects? They aren't born with it. They have to be tought. Where do they get tought? Schools! Who are the schools? The Goverment!
Most people send thier kids into goverment school, teaching socialism and how to be a productive, mindless slave for "the good of society". Then kids leave goverment schools and where do they end up? Most of them go to "Public Colleges". Who run these schools? Business people!! People who only goal is to make money. Sure there are a few school theach ideas, but most soul goal is to make money, and produce people who make money for businesses.
Great! We have a group of people that are mindless slaves to corparations with the ideas of socialism implaneted there by the goverment and businesses.
And we are the problem? No, we are not the people, the problem is the ideas that been implanted by businesses and politicians over 200 years. Heck the idea1 might been around for 1000's of years.
Or it's becuase all the mindless slaves people living in this world don't vote, and leave people in office. Most people don't want the goverment in thier lives, and which to live free without worries. Today politicians are selling votes, like businesses sell products. Heck, you could tell people "we are going to have a income tax, but don't worry, we will only tax the "rich"". Opps, that worked.
What are people really voting for anyways? A idea? A idea of what? A way to live thier lives? Where do they get these ideas? Do they want what they know to be good? What do they know? They know that they are slaves and can everything surpiled to them.
Isn't that what the goverment is today?
I think it is.
The US is screwed. It's too late to change it. Just like all goverments in the past, time is up for the US goverment.
Rome is buring...
However unlikly, if this bus is the same 400mhz, 8 bit bus of rambus, it's going to be slow.
Rambus uses a 8 bit bus where DDR SDRAM uses 32 bits at 200 mhz. That's 8bits*400mhz=3,200 and 32bits*200mhz=6,400.
How about an alpha? It uses a 64 bit bus at 200mhz. 64bits*200mhz=12,800.
How fast will the P4 fare in all of this? Well, once the info get there, it's going to be fast, but it might take a while, oh, and don't try to push it.
Funny how everything has moved forward, but Rambus and Intel is trying to drop a 8 bit on our heads.
Sorry, I won't buy a P4, just like I haven't bought anything after the p233 from them.
Everyone but me that listens to Album88 and boortz.
Of course the PSA's on Ablum 88.5 can be a bit annoy. The same for Bootz's ads for new replacement windows and whiteteeth. But at least I don't have to hear a morons ask stupid questions about thier stupid brakes job insult everyone that listens.
MarNuke
Oh please!
You're on a UNIX server setting something up through a ssh session. You need to look a some doc on a web site. What are you going to do?
1) hit ctrl-z, lynx website.org
or
2) a)if in unix, fire up netscape (becuase it crashed), pray to god it doesn't crash again, type in web site, cance find site, type in www.website.com, wait for the images to load then read your doc
2) b) if in windows, open IE, tell it to stop, get the annoying "action cancel page", type in website.com, wait, get "unable to load page", hit stop, get cancel page, type in www.website.com, wait for connection, wait some more, and five minutes latter get to the page
What's easier to read a simple doc?
How many things in the world once thought to be impossiable are very possiable today?
Was it impossiable to think 50 years ago everyone could have a computer on thier desks?
Was it impossiable to have a network to connect everyone to everyone else linked by light?
Was it impossiable to think man would walk on the moon?
Was it impossiable understand the atom?
Was it impossiable to build a pymind of limestone in the middle of a desert?
Was it impossiable to drag huge stones to a field inright them, and build a circle?
Was it impossiable for the king and queen to lose all meaningful power in europe?
There is so many thing that was once thought impossiable that are very possiable today. Everything you state here can be changed or invented in the next 50 years. Look how far we have come in the last 100 years. Lights, cars, airplanes, computer, nukes, radio, the internet, lasers and so many other things.
Anything with a people with enough will power behind it, is possible.
MarNuke
I will be saying weeeeeeeee.... all the way to the top.
Maybe it will be one of the really fast one like the ones in the Hilton in Atlanta. If it is, I can see 1000's of geeks riding just to get the g's. Maybe they will have a couch for all the drunk, stoned, or tired freaks whole can't stand just Dargon Con '00.
MarNuke
For every example of a successful person that went to college there is 10 people that I can give that are failures, I can do the same every person that didn't go to college. The fact is it's the person and their choice of their path that determines if the person will be successful, not where they receive their knowledge.
Sure, college is a place that can develop a higher level of knowledge and of course it will prepare people to do better, but there is no reason to say someone that choose not to go to college, will be a failure.
The truth is, currently most tech jobs doesn't require a level of knowledge that can't be achieved outside of what can be learned in two year reading every book in the computer section of a good book store. Why should anyone that don't have funds to waste go to college?
My parents aren't rich. I'm also the youngest of four. My parents worked their butts off to get my sisters through school. By the time it was my turn to go, my parents couldn't afford it. If I went to college, I would still be in school, and I would still be broke, and I would most likly have a huge loan hanging over my head. Going to college wasn't the best choice for me. I had a chance to get into a high paying job if I just applied myself to teach myself. As any other smart geek, I don't want to waste my time going to school for twenty hours and then working 40 hours at the local supermarket.
I'm currently 22 and making $60k a year. I run a large network for a dot com. The CTO has seen everything in his 30 years and have told me time and time again that I know my stuff. Sure, I don't know everything. Maybe if I went to college I would know more about calculus, but it doesn't matter right now. My job is make sure the network is up. It's my job to make sure the servers are running at top speed. It doesn't matter if I know Knuth-Morris-Pratt string matching algorithm, heck I don't know what it even is! How would that help me run the network today? It simply won't. Will knowing that put money in my pocket today? no.
I'm not degrading a college education, but degrading someone because they don't have one is wrong. In the next year, I will go to Georgia Tech, and I will get a BSCS by the age of 30 and a MSCS by the age of 35. It is my goal.
I can afford it now and keep my life style. I won't have to worry about eating roman noodles, if I will get a job when I get, or even question why I'm sitting in the class. If I won't to take less clesses I can. I can leave school for a year if I want. I will be in control of my own education, not the goal of monetray gain. I will still have my job and my skills. I won't even have to worry about getting an "A" or "E" like my friend today. Next year, when I do go, I'm going becuase I want to, not becuase I have to.
When I am the lead of a large datacenter, knowing Linear Algebra or Statistics and Probability will help me, but today, it won't.
MarNuke
http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/09/06/mp3.lawsuit/inde x.html
Is much better!
If the out was only the barcode, no, it can not be copyrighted, but if the output from the CueCat is copyrightable, then it's protected by the DMCA.
MarNuke
You are going to call me a idiot when you fail to realize that the DMCA is no way what so ever relevant in this bs over this damn cuecat?
You are the fool, the idiot, the moron, or what ever you want to say about me. You are the one that can't put one and one together and come up with something corelated with another thing.
How would you explain it? You can't, you are to damn stupid to piece something together. If you ever read the damn DMCA you would understand that this is 100% involed with DMCA, and you would understand that before the DMCA something like this would be luaghed and tossed out of court before it's even reached the judge, and the planfit would be left crying. That is why we have the DMCA today!!
If you had a single working brain cell, you would understand that the law that protect non-digtal products are no longer the same laws that protect digtal products.
As far as people being corrupted, people have the freedom to make thier own choices, and to also have the freedom to express themself, but maybe you haven't heard that one? Maybe you don't know what give me the right and the right of others to express my feeling?
How about instead of my shutting up about the how this story is releated to the DMCA and instead tell the reading out there where to read the DMCA for their selves and they can make thier own choice. But maybe you don't believe that? Maybe you think we should all shut the hell up about the DMCA and have it rammed up our ass?? Isn't that what got us into this mess? It's lazy, stupid fucks that tell people to shutup and be quite that put us into the mess, and it's the strong willed people that won't back down that will get us through it. Go rape a dog you damn Nazi bastard.
I'm finshing wasting my time with a moron like you.
MarNuke
If the output of the cuecat contain information that is copyrightable then, reverse engeering it could be legal. Let's look at the ula:
"... [The] CueCat reader contain trade secrets and other proprietary information of Digital:Convergence and its licensors"
Does the output of the CueCat contain proprietary information and/or copyrighted information?
But like you said, is the serial number infomation copyrightable? I would have to find out more information about the output of the cuecat. I bet you "something" in the output is copyrighted. Heck if they put "CueCat" in the output somewhere, that would be copyrightable, and therefor protected under the DMCA!!! Scary...
The ula states that, in more or less words everything about the cuecat is copyrighted,here it is:
Copyright
:CRQ and :CueCat are trademarks of DigitalConvergence.:com Inc.
Copyright 1999-2000 DigitalConvergence.:com Inc. All rights reserved.
MarNuke
The copyrighted work is the serial number implanted the data output of the cuecat. Not the barcode.
Or are you claiming that the DMCA covers the :C:C in some other bizarre way? No other data is being copied with the Linux driver, so I don't see how it could be anything else.
Is the serial number data copied by the linux driver? yes.
MarNuke
I'm assuming you mean that the :C:C is protecting copyrighted data in barcodes,
First NEVER EVER ASS-U-ME. The :C:C is not protecting copyrighted data in barcodes.
because the DMCA only covers copyrighted data.
duh.
Decoding the output of the :C:C isn't accessing protected works, it's descrambling data that could be gotten by merely using a normal barcode scanner.
yes, but!
The scrambling is being done in the :C:C, not in the barcode.
This is what IS protected, and the DMCA states if you try to go around this scrambling you are "circumvent[ing] a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title [DMCA]."
Do you understand what that means? If there is some simple, stupid, piece of junk "technological measure" and you try to decode it, you are breaking the DMCA.
Believe what you want to believe, but that is the what the DMCA does. You can ignore this, and ignore what I said on my other posts, but damn it, it's the f'ing law. Go read the damn DMCA! You can hide your head in the sand, ignore the DMCA, and wish it will go away, BUT IT WON'T unless you do something about it. The sad thing is it to late, and to many powerful minds to change to get it repealed.
We are in a "new world order" and the people will get screwed, so go ahead and believe the crap you posted here.
MarNuke
To use their hardware it prefectly legal. The thing is, their software is in the firmware. The firmware is their intellectual property. To use the cuecat, you have to use the firmware. To go around the firmware is strictly prohibted by the DMCA.
Here it is:
Basicly, becuase of the lame Base64-XOR, it's protected, since it's a "a technological measure that effectively controls access".
This rest of it can be found here.
MarNuke
UGH! i hit submit when i wanted to hit preview... grr!
Why they think that some third party developing a compatible driver is a violation of their IP. Does this mean that Ford, GM and Chrysler could sue Haynes and Chilton for publishing manuals on the repair of the vehicles?
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Non-digtal products are not protected by the DMCA. The cuecat software is.
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You can take the scanner itself apart all day long with a number 1 screw driver until you get bored, but if you reverse engineer the software the cuecat use, it is illegal since the software is protected by the DMCA.
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MarNuke