I don't think that you can hide something like Area 51 from a spy satellite.
Area 51 is clearly visible on Google Earth. It is amazing how many roads and tracks lead straight into the side of a mountain. 37d 14' 41.57" N 115d 49' 12.33" W
Ignore the UFO parked on the tarmac with the BBQ grill.
Their system will work fine, because they are using an incorrect and dishonest measurement for "bandwidth". There is no such thing as "500 Gb" of "bandwidth". Bandwidth is a flow rate, like 1.544 Mb/s, not a flow volume.
Thus, while you may get 500 Gb of transfer, it could be thru a limited rate pipe. The difference is like getting 5,000 gallons of water thru a hose. Yahoo is going to give you the garden hose, as opposed to the super firehose you really wanted.
Digital copies are free, which generated interest. People then wanted actual physical books, which he sold to them From 0 in one year to 100,000 a couple years later.
In 2001, I sold 10,000 hard copies. And everyone was puzzled. We came from zero, from 1000, to 10,000. And then the next year we were over 100,000.
No arguments from me! We tried to use DRM as a cheaper, easier solution for CM/DM because the good ones are astronomical in pricing and not the easiest to use.
Correct, which is what we went with. Adobe Acrobat supports all this, and we ended up going that way. Since the.PDF spec is an open standard, it could be implemented in FOSS.
It was an electronics assembly facility. Pick & place machines, wave soldering, etc. If they lost electricity, everyone goes home as the place would be 100% closed.
Obviously, your situation differs. It was a tailored solution.
So unless something is 100% effective, you don't bother with it?
Are all your windows unbreakable? All your locks unpickable? All your door jambs unforceable? Do you bother to ever lock your doors or your car? They are, after all, able to be worked around.
You can make it difficult. In some cases, difficult enough so some percentage of people won't bother.
It isn't a delusion. It is taking a concrete step to ensure your data is not misused.
From a legal -- not just engineering -- perspective, it provides a necessary lock. If you have to engineer around it, you can't use the defense "well, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that. It wasn't clear."
Like a lock on an screen door. It isn't meant to necessarily keep out a determined intruder, it is meant to communicate the message "you are not allowed to be here".
Also, if you build anything sensitive enough that someone would pay to steal the plans, why do you have one untrusted person working on a large enough chunk to get something juicy? "Attach Widget A to Wocket B using 47 reverse-threaded Thorplenuts". End of job description - Paperwork? Why?
Electronic schematics. Line workers check chip placement, solder joints and several other bits that require full or at least partial schematics.
The R&D involved in electronics can be expensive. Yes, patents are in place, but that doesn't always work. Stealing a competitor's design for a new electronic car part can save 6 months to a year in R&D. Time to market can be critical.
And I've dealt with the sensitive stuff as well. In fact, we arranged for my team to tour and observe the existing electronic documentation setups at a few local (Central Florida) aerospace/military contractors. We had assistance from a couple in helping design our final setup.
If you have the code, you can break any DRM, so there's no point in developing open source DRM. It's also why all DRM eventually fails.
That is so wrong it isn't even funny. Hell, that is Microsoft's main argument about Closed Source vs Open Source. "If you could see the code, you could hack anything! Nothing would be safe!"
You have (or can have) the code for GnuPG, but does that mean you can break the data encrypted with it. And no, DRM isn't special in that way.
I have terminals at work on a production line that are basically document display units. The documents they display are protected by DRM so they can't be printed. Other things need to be printed, so we just can't lock the systems down from printing.
If a line worker has the DRM code, how do you expect them to break the DRM? Strip out the nasty restricting code? Wonderful. Now how do you think they're going to install in on the network server? Those servers in a locked room, with only a couple of people who have access (physically or remotely)? Bribe one?
Okay, then they have to also subvert the signed binary that we currently use for allowable executables. Good luck with that, buddy.
...to deprive people of the right to use the computers they own as they see fit.
What about computers you don't own? For example, the ones people use at the office. The PC, and all the data on it, belong to the COMPANY, and not you.
To do your job, you need to see data. You have no legitimate business need to print, copy or otherwise transfer that data anywhere. Other people have different needs with the same data.
DRM assures the rights that each group needs are all that they get. Least privilege is what they call it.
Make absolutely certain the drawings being used on the production floor are the correct revision. I mean on terminals on the line. And make sure no one printed a copy for "convenience".
I.E. - Engineers and CAD designers are the only ones that can see pre-production drawings. Pre-production drawings are not accessible from line terminals, only engineering or conference room workstations. Line terminals can not print drawings, though they can print some other things. Line terminals and assembly people can't even open non-production documents.
Considering many electronics assembly shops have people on staff that used to (like, last week) work for a competitor the possibility of moles in real. So, prevent documents from being opened by non-authorized personnel. Prevent drawings from being printed, copied to removable media, etc.
I've had to deal with all of that in a manufacturing environment.
If a neighbor asks to use the phone, I welcome them into my kitchen, sit at the table, and ask that they keep it local.
And therein lies your confusion. Why do you ask them to keep it local? Because it costs you money for their call.
If you had a flat-rate phone charge, with no such thing as "long distance" (i.e. - VoIP), would you still ask them to "keep it local"? If so, why?
If their phone call didn't stop YOU from making a simultaneous call, would you still object to sharing a phone out at the fence? It no longer interferes with your ability to make calls, and doesn't cost you anything.
And I've gone thru a total of 5 T20s in the last year and a half. Weekly commutes from Chicago to either San Francisco or Washington, D.C. and back (taxi & airplane) are rough on laptops. One was just a short drop (18" ?) off of a chair in the Midway food court to the floor. Totally dead.
Circumstances vary, and while I've had better luck with Thinkpads than almost any other laptop (Panasonic Toughbooks are more durable), they still have issues. You've been lucky.
I don't think your analogy is quite right. VHS is not dogfood. I would say broadcast TV is dogfood. VHS allowed you to play back shows when you wanted, and record things off the TV. So lets say that VHS is a burger.
That would make VHS regurgitated dogfood. I think you've hit on something here.
Thanks, but I'm not sure how to cut back on caffeine.
I drink coffee about once a week. Same for caffeinated sodas. The tea I drink is all caffeine-free herbal, and I don't eat a lot of chocolate. My caffeine intake isn't a lot to begin with.
Couldn't sit back or take a stroll down the block without thinking just about everything, instead of just clearing my mind and relaxing. Even getting to sleep became difficult.
Ummm...wow. You just described my normal life. I have to practice meditation to get to sleep at a reasonable time. "Clear my mind"? I wish I could do that. I can't recall a time in my life where my mind wasn't racing along at 1000 MPH, thinking about everything.
I'm working on some serious meditation just so I can focus on the task at hand. Only immersive tasks cause me to focus and not have my mind wander. Good books, movies, coding projects or sex -- everything else only gets a small slice of my attention.
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I don't think that you can hide something like Area 51 from a spy satellite.
Area 51 is clearly visible on Google Earth. It is amazing how many roads and tracks lead straight into the side of a mountain. 37d 14' 41.57" N 115d 49' 12.33" W
Ignore the UFO parked on the tarmac with the BBQ grill.
Their system will work fine, because they are using an incorrect and dishonest measurement for "bandwidth". There is no such thing as "500 Gb" of "bandwidth". Bandwidth is a flow rate, like 1.544 Mb/s, not a flow volume.
Thus, while you may get 500 Gb of transfer, it could be thru a limited rate pipe. The difference is like getting 5,000 gallons of water thru a hose. Yahoo is going to give you the garden hose, as opposed to the super firehose you really wanted.
All the Dark Matter is there, it just was told to move to the back of the galaxy.
Well, the University site is back up. But now minix.org has been bitch-slapped out of existence.
This takes Googlefight to a whole new level.
Did you hear that Saddam Hussein was trying to procure yellowcake from New England mines prior to the US invasion of Iraq?
Obviously this justifies the invasion....
Damn, you Giants fans are reaching for any reason to not get your asses whipped by the Patriots this Sunday, aren't you?
Read the article.
Digital copies are free, which generated interest. People then wanted actual physical books, which he sold to them From 0 in one year to 100,000 a couple years later.
In 2001, I sold 10,000 hard copies. And everyone was puzzled. We came from zero, from 1000, to 10,000. And then the next year we were over 100,000.
No arguments from me! We tried to use DRM as a cheaper, easier solution for CM/DM because the good ones are astronomical in pricing and not the easiest to use.
Believe it or not, it worked for what we wanted.
Correct, which is what we went with. Adobe Acrobat supports all this, and we ended up going that way. Since the .PDF spec is an open standard, it could be implemented in FOSS.
It was an electronics assembly facility. Pick & place machines, wave soldering, etc. If they lost electricity, everyone goes home as the place would be 100% closed.
Obviously, your situation differs. It was a tailored solution.
So unless something is 100% effective, you don't bother with it?
Are all your windows unbreakable? All your locks unpickable? All your door jambs unforceable? Do you bother to ever lock your doors or your car? They are, after all, able to be worked around.
You can make it difficult. In some cases, difficult enough so some percentage of people won't bother.
It isn't a delusion. It is taking a concrete step to ensure your data is not misused.
From a legal -- not just engineering -- perspective, it provides a necessary lock. If you have to engineer around it, you can't use the defense "well, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that. It wasn't clear."
Like a lock on an screen door. It isn't meant to necessarily keep out a determined intruder, it is meant to communicate the message "you are not allowed to be here".
Also, if you build anything sensitive enough that someone would pay to steal the plans, why do you have one untrusted person working on a large enough chunk to get something juicy? "Attach Widget A to Wocket B using 47 reverse-threaded Thorplenuts". End of job description - Paperwork? Why?
Electronic schematics. Line workers check chip placement, solder joints and several other bits that require full or at least partial schematics.
The R&D involved in electronics can be expensive. Yes, patents are in place, but that doesn't always work. Stealing a competitor's design for a new electronic car part can save 6 months to a year in R&D. Time to market can be critical.
And I've dealt with the sensitive stuff as well. In fact, we arranged for my team to tour and observe the existing electronic documentation setups at a few local (Central Florida) aerospace/military contractors. We had assistance from a couple in helping design our final setup.
If you're using systems with TCPA chips, then check out this overview and IBM's examples.
If you have the code, you can break any DRM, so there's no point in developing open source DRM. It's also why all DRM eventually fails.
That is so wrong it isn't even funny. Hell, that is Microsoft's main argument about Closed Source vs Open Source. "If you could see the code, you could hack anything! Nothing would be safe!"
You have (or can have) the code for GnuPG, but does that mean you can break the data encrypted with it. And no, DRM isn't special in that way.
I have terminals at work on a production line that are basically document display units. The documents they display are protected by DRM so they can't be printed. Other things need to be printed, so we just can't lock the systems down from printing.
If a line worker has the DRM code, how do you expect them to break the DRM? Strip out the nasty restricting code? Wonderful. Now how do you think they're going to install in on the network server? Those servers in a locked room, with only a couple of people who have access (physically or remotely)? Bribe one?
Okay, then they have to also subvert the signed binary that we currently use for allowable executables. Good luck with that, buddy.
...to deprive people of the right to use the computers they own as they see fit.
What about computers you don't own? For example, the ones people use at the office. The PC, and all the data on it, belong to the COMPANY, and not you.
To do your job, you need to see data. You have no legitimate business need to print, copy or otherwise transfer that data anywhere. Other people have different needs with the same data.
DRM assures the rights that each group needs are all that they get. Least privilege is what they call it.
Make absolutely certain the drawings being used on the production floor are the correct revision. I mean on terminals on the line. And make sure no one printed a copy for "convenience".
I.E. - Engineers and CAD designers are the only ones that can see pre-production drawings. Pre-production drawings are not accessible from line terminals, only engineering or conference room workstations. Line terminals can not print drawings, though they can print some other things. Line terminals and assembly people can't even open non-production documents.
Considering many electronics assembly shops have people on staff that used to (like, last week) work for a competitor the possibility of moles in real. So, prevent documents from being opened by non-authorized personnel. Prevent drawings from being printed, copied to removable media, etc.
I've had to deal with all of that in a manufacturing environment.
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It soaks into the cheese.
If a neighbor asks to use the phone, I welcome them into my kitchen, sit at the table, and ask that they keep it local.
And therein lies your confusion. Why do you ask them to keep it local? Because it costs you money for their call.
If you had a flat-rate phone charge, with no such thing as "long distance" (i.e. - VoIP), would you still ask them to "keep it local"? If so, why?
If their phone call didn't stop YOU from making a simultaneous call, would you still object to sharing a phone out at the fence? It no longer interferes with your ability to make calls, and doesn't cost you anything.
Having had to implement those security features, and get millisecond synchronization for a major telco by using NTP, I say leave it alone!
If you want simpler and easier, check out OpenNTPD.
Like one of these?
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/12623
And I've gone thru a total of 5 T20s in the last year and a half. Weekly commutes from Chicago to either San Francisco or Washington, D.C. and back (taxi & airplane) are rough on laptops. One was just a short drop (18" ?) off of a chair in the Midway food court to the floor. Totally dead.
Circumstances vary, and while I've had better luck with Thinkpads than almost any other laptop (Panasonic Toughbooks are more durable), they still have issues. You've been lucky.
I don't think your analogy is quite right. VHS is not dogfood. I would say broadcast TV is dogfood. VHS allowed you to play back shows when you wanted, and record things off the TV. So lets say that VHS is a burger.
That would make VHS regurgitated dogfood. I think you've hit on something here.
Thanks, but I'm not sure how to cut back on caffeine.
I drink coffee about once a week. Same for caffeinated sodas. The tea I drink is all caffeine-free herbal, and I don't eat a lot of chocolate. My caffeine intake isn't a lot to begin with.
I'll try the rest, though.
Couldn't sit back or take a stroll down the block without thinking just about everything, instead of just clearing my mind and relaxing. Even getting to sleep became difficult.
Ummm...wow. You just described my normal life. I have to practice meditation to get to sleep at a reasonable time. "Clear my mind"? I wish I could do that. I can't recall a time in my life where my mind wasn't racing along at 1000 MPH, thinking about everything.
I'm working on some serious meditation just so I can focus on the task at hand. Only immersive tasks cause me to focus and not have my mind wander. Good books, movies, coding projects or sex -- everything else only gets a small slice of my attention.