Telling the world you thing the USA deserved it *IS* protected speech. It is an opinion. Unpopular and stupid, but an opinion.
Sending money to terrorist organizations is a different ballgame. That isn't speech, it is an action that directly supports a crime, and possibly *IS* treasonous as it can be linked to an attempt to violently overthrow the government.
Using speech to plot an attack would also be a crime.
Standing up and saying "I hope you die" isn't a crime. Plotting the death of another, and/or acting on that desire IS.
Personally I'd like to know real reasons on why the USA is so hated by so many people across the globe, and don't tell me its becasue "they hate our freedom", its a wonder every time i see GWB say that with a straight face.
People are passionate about their beliefs. Beliefs often define who a person is and what their culture/society stands for. If you don't share their beliefs, you are in essence telling them that they are wrong and ignorant and that their culture has little or no value. At best, since you don't "convert" you are saying your way is superior.
The United States is the strongest military power in the world, bar none. We've budgeted more $$ for defense in 2003 than countries 2-16 combined! Our culture is pervasive. Go to Taiwan and you'll see a Starbucks and McDonalds on almost every corner. Levi's, Coca Cola and Disney are mega-sellers in almost every country with an economy. It is nothing to see people in Europe and the Middle East bitching about "Americans" while swilling a Coke and sitting in a pair of Western jeans.
Mao Tse Tung called them "Sugar Coated Bullets" -- American cultural icons like Disney and Coke spreading thru China. Like the Playboy store in ShangHai.
France, during the 80s, refused to ratify the GATT treaty until there were restrictions (quotas) put on American movies, television and music imports. France is especially sensative of their culture and diminished global influence.
In short (too late!), American culture is taking over the world. We aren't forcing it, people choosed what they like. Other cultures are getting forced out and feel threatened. The resulting fear turns to hatred of America and Americans. We are a "corrupting" influence. And we do take for granted freedoms and benefits others can only dream of.
Many European politicians are not defined by their beliefs -- they simply pick the opposite side of what America chooses, regardless.
In closing, for those that would argue to live and let live, that only works if EVERYONE does it and regardless of what direction America takes, we will piss off SOMEONE.
Several trains run thru the middle of cities such as Chicago, Pittsburgh, Denver, Cleveland, Orlando and others.
I was talking about picking a train that runs where you want to go -- not 'steering' or 'hacking'. Sorry, I should have been clearer.
As far as an alert switchmaster routing you somewhere else... maybe. Maybe that is the plan. Here in Florida people worry about rockets launched with satellites that have nuclear (plutonium) fuel. If they blow up, the worry isn't that they blow up OVER LAND (they won't) but that the wind will be blowing inland and blow a cloud of plutonium dust over Melbourne or Orlando. So -- do you need to be IN a city or upwind?
My argument is that the Constitution is there to *protect* the right to free, unrestricted political speech.
Not just speech that you agree with -- unpopular speech. Popular speech doesn't, by definition, need protection.
SPYING is and was a punishable crime, as are several other activities people were charged with during the 50s. Expressing political views contrary to the views of the majority, or of the government is NOT. It is a protected right of our citizenry.
I'm not sure where you get that advocacy bit. All I'm advocating is Free Speech, specifically free POLITICAL speech -- what this country is founded on. If people then commit criminal and/or violent acts then they deserve the punishment they get.
Political speech, short of advocating the violent overthrow of the government, has never been considered "treasonous" by any court in the U.S.
Belonging to the Communist Party was a way of saying you were dissatisfied with the then current system. It was also, in some circles, fashionable. However, the vast majority of the members were "marching and chowder" members -- all talk, no action and there for the free drinks and wings. Hardly treasonous.
Actually, not all of them did openly. Several refused to answer the pertinent question "Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?"
Still, anyone labeled a "Communist" was blacklisted. Pressure was exerted on filmmakers, studios and others and those so labeled frequently never worked again. Careers were destroyed, not on proof of criminal activity, but on expression of political belief. Political speech was supressed and persecuted.
I'm not talking "the advocation of the violent overthrow of the Government and Constitution", but expressions of sympathy or even simple ambivalence.
"...when that expression presents a clear and present danger to the continued prosperity of the United States as both the body politic and the people, actions such as McCarthy's were totally justified."
Where in the Constitution does it say that? Until Congress declares War -- which didn't happen then and hasn't now -- or you are a convicted felon, the rights of Citizens are not set aside for convenience.
The Government of the United States is stronger than that. Unlike China, the U.S.S.R. and others, we tolerate dissent and are not threatened by it.
I believe the quote I'm looking for is "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
While Sen. McCarthy had good intentions -- protecting America from the Communists -- stomping on the Constitutional Rights of Citizens in the process is not an acceptable method.
One does not toss aside the Constitution simply because it gets in your way.
Yes, Communism was a real and dangerous threat. So, in his way, was Sen. McCarthy and the House UnAmericans Activities Committee. They both violated the rights that they fought so hard to protect.
Hmmm, I always thought that the LCD advertising the proper size was due to manufacturing differences.
LCDs are made to exact measurements -- don't want to waste transistors behind plastic where you won't see them. Whereas the glass is a "sloppy" process.
Automatically shifting from Park to Reverse to Drive would be mind reading. An automatic transmission shifts by itself between drive gears: 1, 2,3,4 and maybe 5.
"Common Knowledge" doesn't make it any less misleading. "Oh, they're lying but everyone know it so it doesn't count." Sorry.
They all still do it because it is a vicious circle. The tape drive company that starts reporting true size instead of 2:1 compression would get crushed by the clueless buyers who don't read the fine print.
Okay, misleading. Technically, you're correct. However, consumers don't give a damn about what size the glass is behind the plastic, even though that is what the manufacturer paid for. *I* don't get to use all 17".
The fact that they all mislead consistantly (15 17) doesn't help.
Unfortunately, I've been on the receiving end of irate customers who pulled out tape measures on 17" monitors. I had to explain to them and in one case even accompanied one to a CompUSA so he could measure THEIR monitors. (Yeah, he was a jerk.)
It was bad consumer information because it led the consumer to believe the viewable area -- what they see -- was 17" of diagonal screen.
Printer manufacturers print the PPM in big, bold letters on the box. They use it as a main selling point, same as with DPI. Yes, there are several cavaets that the buyer must be aware of. However, it is deceptive marketing.
Same goes for tape drive manufacturers who quote 2:1 compression figures in 2" high letters; monitor manufacturers who make the "viewable" size much smaller than the regular size.
Well, the monitor people are getting better. A couple years ago you couldn't find "viewable size" anywhere on the box. And LCDs are "true" size -- not that inch-behind-the-bezel size.
Yes, it is up to the buyer to educate themselves. However, printer manufacturers are very much like car dealers in that they SHOUT the one number, while whisper all the "gotchas". Deceptive.
I've had Win2K freeze up on me a couple of time -- taking down the entire system. Vanilla Win2K installs, too. Nothing by Windows and Office 2K.
I've only had Linux take down a system once, and that was due to faulty hardware (fan on CPU died).
I *HAVE* had KDE and Gnome hang, but I can always SSH in an kill the task.
2. Cost
Win2K or WinXP costs quite a bit of $$. So do many of the apps. Granted, I *DO* use OpenOffice on both Windows and Linux most other OpenSource apps require Cygwin or some other destabilizing hack to work on Windows.
For example, PostgreSQL is free and combined with the small fee to The Kompany for Rekall, it can save a company THOUSANDS over MS Access, or even MS SQL Server.
Kivio is another example. It is a wonderful tool for diagramming. Priced Visio lately? Ouch! All Kivio needs is Visio import/export and I'll be happy. However, since Visio isn't as pervasive as Word/Excel/Powerpoint, most diagrams I get are PDFs anyway so import/export is a minor issue.
Owning a gun has little to do with feeling safe. It is a Constitutional Right in the U.S. and one that I enjoy exercizing. It is also a matter of being able to defend oneself if necessary. Just because I like being prepared means I live in fear.
Just to play it safe, yes the 2nd Amendment refers to PERSONAL weapon ownership and not just State run militias. The published writings of many Founding Fathers (Washington, Adams and Jefferson for starters) directly addressed this issue.
Keep in mind "Geeks With Guns" was, I believe, founded in California. Many a Linux Expo/LUG has ended with a decent sized group heading off to a range to fire off a few rounds.
Orlando, FL -- the number one vacation destination in the world. Thus, your personal boycott won't be noticed as we have plenty of others vacationing here.
The slack-jawed rent-a-cops aren't the ones who DESIGN or DECIDE on physical security -- they are a facet of the implementation.
Think of them as a crude firewall.
The article was talking about merging the decision making and responsibilities at a higher level. It was NOT talking about giving PCs to rent-a-cops or guns to sysops.
Actually, most network admins I know ALREADY own guns.
Which is why I said it should be a PREMIUM service, where the customer explicitly ASKS for the blocking.
Second step would be to charge people for excessing SENDING on a non-commercial account. If they run an open relay, and refuse to believe it, bill them by the megabit. When they bitch, give them the option of waving the first instances of the charges if they fix the problem. Offer instructions on how to fix the problem.
And a major financial incentive -- for your ISP. I'd happily pay a premium for an ISP that provides spam-filtering.
I'm not interested in perfect -- just cut down the bulk by 75% to 80% or so. False positives are bad, so avoid those.
This is NOT an issue where the government -- any government -- need to get involved.
Come ON people! You really want the same organizational paragon of efficiency that runs Amtrak and the U.S. Postal Service regulating e-mail? Are you, as a Slashdot reader, that inept that you can't properly configure a Junkbuster/Spamassassin Proxy?
If this costs so damn much money, then it is an opportunity for you to provide consulting services.
With all the "let the government regulate it" talk, you'd think this was France and not the U.S.A.
Demonstrating OTHER corporations are security dumb-asses is one thing, but demonstrating THEY are security dumb-asses on nationwide television must've triggered someone's clue meter.
The last place I worked, I had to do something like this. We had a problem with an employee who was suspected of leaking company trade secrets to a competitor.
It turns out she was using a Yahoo e-mail account to send CAD files of complete circuits to her "ex" boyfriend at a competitor. She was doing this from computers at work, and yes she had authorization to access the CAD files in her job.
Because we were able to monitor the activity, the company knew what/when/where the files went. She was fired for cause and we contacted the competitor and waved the evidence. They had little choice but to fire the person on the other end and we watched them close to see if they introduced any "new" products over the next year or so that were based off of our designs.
* * *
Fast forward to my new company -- a once major telecom giant -- they now block all webmail sites they can find via their firewalls.
Simple fix? Squid proxy on your home computer running on port 443 (HTTPS) and requiring a username/password.
I agree -- my post was pointing out the obvious, not berating Apple.
However, your comparison of a plagarized Master's Thesis is inaccurate. The patch software DIDN'T plagarize, it was an add-on to the software. Similar to further research. "Hey! You can also do this just by adding this!"
I got the impression from the story that Otherworld Computing was selling a 3rd party add-on/patch and NOT patched versions of iDVD. iDVD was still separate and this program was run to make a change. There is a world of difference.
This also highlites why there is no OS X for Intel hardware. Apple makes by far most of its money selling machines. Apple does not sell Intel hardware. Apple couldn't get the same margins selling Intel hardware.
Remember, one of the first things Jobs did upon his return was to kill the recently authorized Mac Clone market.
Apple does what is in Apple's best interests -- selling more Apple hardware. NOT what is necessarily in the user's/dealer's best interest. Frequently there is an overlap, but when they DO conflict, Apple will always side with Apple.
There may eventually be an OS X for Intel, but it will take a major thought-process shift in the upper echelons of Apple.
That area caters mostly to tourists -- a lot of British and Brasillians.
For the longest time that playplace had a screendoor exit leading right out to the main street. They need it for fire purposes, but they have had so many little kids wander out towards that highway they now have a permanent "guard" there.
Slashdot Mirror
Almost... :-)
Telling the world you thing the USA deserved it *IS* protected speech. It is an opinion. Unpopular and stupid, but an opinion.
Sending money to terrorist organizations is a different ballgame. That isn't speech, it is an action that directly supports a crime, and possibly *IS* treasonous as it can be linked to an attempt to violently overthrow the government.
Using speech to plot an attack would also be a crime.
Standing up and saying "I hope you die" isn't a crime. Plotting the death of another, and/or acting on that desire IS.
People are passionate about their beliefs. Beliefs often define who a person is and what their culture/society stands for. If you don't share their beliefs, you are in essence telling them that they are wrong and ignorant and that their culture has little or no value. At best, since you don't "convert" you are saying your way is superior.
The United States is the strongest military power in the world, bar none. We've budgeted more $$ for defense in 2003 than countries 2-16 combined! Our culture is pervasive. Go to Taiwan and you'll see a Starbucks and McDonalds on almost every corner. Levi's, Coca Cola and Disney are mega-sellers in almost every country with an economy. It is nothing to see people in Europe and the Middle East bitching about "Americans" while swilling a Coke and sitting in a pair of Western jeans.
Mao Tse Tung called them "Sugar Coated Bullets" -- American cultural icons like Disney and Coke spreading thru China. Like the Playboy store in ShangHai.
France, during the 80s, refused to ratify the GATT treaty until there were restrictions (quotas) put on American movies, television and music imports. France is especially sensative of their culture and diminished global influence.
In short (too late!), American culture is taking over the world. We aren't forcing it, people choosed what they like. Other cultures are getting forced out and feel threatened. The resulting fear turns to hatred of America and Americans. We are a "corrupting" influence. And we do take for granted freedoms and benefits others can only dream of.
Many European politicians are not defined by their beliefs -- they simply pick the opposite side of what America chooses, regardless.
In closing, for those that would argue to live and let live, that only works if EVERYONE does it and regardless of what direction America takes, we will piss off SOMEONE.
No, I didn't forget about a steering wheel.
Several trains run thru the middle of cities such as Chicago, Pittsburgh, Denver, Cleveland, Orlando and others.
I was talking about picking a train that runs where you want to go -- not 'steering' or 'hacking'. Sorry, I should have been clearer.
As far as an alert switchmaster routing you somewhere else... maybe. Maybe that is the plan. Here in Florida people worry about rockets launched with satellites that have nuclear (plutonium) fuel. If they blow up, the worry isn't that they blow up OVER LAND (they won't) but that the wind will be blowing inland and blow a cloud of plutonium dust over Melbourne or Orlando. So -- do you need to be IN a city or upwind?
Either way, loads of trouble.
Sorry about not being clearer to begin with.
My argument is that the Constitution is there to *protect* the right to free, unrestricted political speech.
Not just speech that you agree with -- unpopular speech. Popular speech doesn't, by definition, need protection.
SPYING is and was a punishable crime, as are several other activities people were charged with during the 50s. Expressing political views contrary to the views of the majority, or of the government is NOT. It is a protected right of our citizenry.
I'm not sure where you get that advocacy bit. All I'm advocating is Free Speech, specifically free POLITICAL speech -- what this country is founded on. If people then commit criminal and/or violent acts then they deserve the punishment they get.
Political speech, short of advocating the violent overthrow of the government, has never been considered "treasonous" by any court in the U.S.
Belonging to the Communist Party was a way of saying you were dissatisfied with the then current system. It was also, in some circles, fashionable. However, the vast majority of the members were "marching and chowder" members -- all talk, no action and there for the free drinks and wings. Hardly treasonous.
Actually, not all of them did openly. Several refused to answer the pertinent question "Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?"
Still, anyone labeled a "Communist" was blacklisted. Pressure was exerted on filmmakers, studios and others and those so labeled frequently never worked again. Careers were destroyed, not on proof of criminal activity, but on expression of political belief. Political speech was supressed and persecuted.
I'm not talking "the advocation of the violent overthrow of the Government and Constitution", but expressions of sympathy or even simple ambivalence.
"...when that expression presents a clear and present danger to the continued prosperity of the United States as both the body politic and the people, actions such as McCarthy's were totally justified."
Where in the Constitution does it say that? Until Congress declares War -- which didn't happen then and hasn't now -- or you are a convicted felon, the rights of Citizens are not set aside for convenience.
The Government of the United States is stronger than that. Unlike China, the U.S.S.R. and others, we tolerate dissent and are not threatened by it.
McCarthy, et al.
I believe the quote I'm looking for is "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
While Sen. McCarthy had good intentions -- protecting America from the Communists -- stomping on the Constitutional Rights of Citizens in the process is not an acceptable method.
One does not toss aside the Constitution simply because it gets in your way.
Yes, Communism was a real and dangerous threat. So, in his way, was Sen. McCarthy and the House UnAmericans Activities Committee. They both violated the rights that they fought so hard to protect.
Broken Arrow with John Travolta
Hijack train, place nuclear/chemical/biological explosive on it. Run in into a large city. Detonate.
Steering trains into buildings isn't necessary.
Hmmm, I always thought that the LCD advertising the proper size was due to manufacturing differences.
LCDs are made to exact measurements -- don't want to waste transistors behind plastic where you won't see them. Whereas the glass is a "sloppy" process.
Interesting.
"Automatic Transmission" isn't misleading.
,3 ,4 and maybe 5.
Automatically shifting from Park to Reverse to Drive would be mind reading. An automatic transmission shifts by itself between drive gears: 1, 2
"Common Knowledge" doesn't make it any less misleading. "Oh, they're lying but everyone know it so it doesn't count." Sorry.
They all still do it because it is a vicious circle. The tape drive company that starts reporting true size instead of 2:1 compression would get crushed by the clueless buyers who don't read the fine print.
It's sad, actually.
Okay, misleading. Technically, you're correct. However, consumers don't give a damn about what size the glass is behind the plastic, even though that is what the manufacturer paid for. *I* don't get to use all 17".
The fact that they all mislead consistantly (15 17) doesn't help.
Unfortunately, I've been on the receiving end of irate customers who pulled out tape measures on 17" monitors. I had to explain to them and in one case even accompanied one to a CompUSA so he could measure THEIR monitors. (Yeah, he was a jerk.)
It was bad consumer information because it led the consumer to believe the viewable area -- what they see -- was 17" of diagonal screen.
Since it's a free Internet -- I'll disagree.
Printer manufacturers print the PPM in big, bold letters on the box. They use it as a main selling point, same as with DPI. Yes, there are several cavaets that the buyer must be aware of. However, it is deceptive marketing.
Same goes for tape drive manufacturers who quote 2:1 compression figures in 2" high letters; monitor manufacturers who make the "viewable" size much smaller than the regular size.
Well, the monitor people are getting better. A couple years ago you couldn't find "viewable size" anywhere on the box. And LCDs are "true" size -- not that inch-behind-the-bezel size.
Yes, it is up to the buyer to educate themselves. However, printer manufacturers are very much like car dealers in that they SHOUT the one number, while whisper all the "gotchas". Deceptive.
1. Stability.
I've had Win2K freeze up on me a couple of time -- taking down the entire system. Vanilla Win2K installs, too. Nothing by Windows and Office 2K.
I've only had Linux take down a system once, and that was due to faulty hardware (fan on CPU died).
I *HAVE* had KDE and Gnome hang, but I can always SSH in an kill the task.
2. Cost
Win2K or WinXP costs quite a bit of $$. So do many of the apps. Granted, I *DO* use OpenOffice on both Windows and Linux most other OpenSource apps require Cygwin or some other destabilizing hack to work on Windows.
For example, PostgreSQL is free and combined with the small fee to The Kompany for Rekall, it can save a company THOUSANDS over MS Access, or even MS SQL Server.
Kivio is another example. It is a wonderful tool for diagramming. Priced Visio lately? Ouch! All Kivio needs is Visio import/export and I'll be happy. However, since Visio isn't as pervasive as Word/Excel/Powerpoint, most diagrams I get are PDFs anyway so import/export is a minor issue.
Owning a gun has little to do with feeling safe. It is a Constitutional Right in the U.S. and one that I enjoy exercizing. It is also a matter of being able to defend oneself if necessary. Just because I like being prepared means I live in fear.
Just to play it safe, yes the 2nd Amendment refers to PERSONAL weapon ownership and not just State run militias. The published writings of many Founding Fathers (Washington, Adams and Jefferson for starters) directly addressed this issue.
Keep in mind "Geeks With Guns" was, I believe, founded in California. Many a Linux Expo/LUG has ended with a decent sized group heading off to a range to fire off a few rounds.
Orlando, FL -- the number one vacation destination in the world. Thus, your personal boycott won't be noticed as we have plenty of others vacationing here.
The slack-jawed rent-a-cops aren't the ones who DESIGN or DECIDE on physical security -- they are a facet of the implementation.
Think of them as a crude firewall.
The article was talking about merging the decision making and responsibilities at a higher level. It was NOT talking about giving PCs to rent-a-cops or guns to sysops.
Actually, most network admins I know ALREADY own guns.
Which is why I said it should be a PREMIUM service, where the customer explicitly ASKS for the blocking.
Second step would be to charge people for excessing SENDING on a non-commercial account. If they run an open relay, and refuse to believe it, bill them by the megabit. When they bitch, give them the option of waving the first instances of the charges if they fix the problem. Offer instructions on how to fix the problem.
And a major financial incentive -- for your ISP. I'd happily pay a premium for an ISP that provides spam-filtering.
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I'm not interested in perfect -- just cut down the bulk by 75% to 80% or so. False positives are bad, so avoid those.
This is NOT an issue where the government -- any government -- need to get involved.
Come ON people! You really want the same organizational paragon of efficiency that runs Amtrak and the U.S. Postal Service regulating e-mail? Are you, as a Slashdot reader, that inept that you can't properly configure a Junkbuster/Spamassassin Proxy?
If this costs so damn much money, then it is an opportunity for you to provide consulting services
With all the "let the government regulate it" talk, you'd think this was France and not the U.S.A.
Actually, the UN agreement on the Moon is very similar to the way things are set up for Antarctica. No one "owns" it -- everyone shares.
Of course, it won't be until after we use it as a Penal Colony and an AI organizes a decent revolution that Luna will become truely free.
(For the confused -- that is the basic plot of "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by R. A. Heinlein)
Read the article.
They are taking off from Kazakstan (or however you spell it).
Demonstrating OTHER corporations are security dumb-asses is one thing, but demonstrating THEY are security dumb-asses on nationwide television must've triggered someone's clue meter.
The last place I worked, I had to do something like this. We had a problem with an employee who was suspected of leaking company trade secrets to a competitor.
It turns out she was using a Yahoo e-mail account to send CAD files of complete circuits to her "ex" boyfriend at a competitor. She was doing this from computers at work, and yes she had authorization to access the CAD files in her job.
Because we were able to monitor the activity, the company knew what/when/where the files went. She was fired for cause and we contacted the competitor and waved the evidence. They had little choice but to fire the person on the other end and we watched them close to see if they introduced any "new" products over the next year or so that were based off of our designs.
* * *
Fast forward to my new company -- a once major telecom giant -- they now block all webmail sites they can find via their firewalls.
Simple fix? Squid proxy on your home computer running on port 443 (HTTPS) and requiring a username/password.
I agree -- my post was pointing out the obvious, not berating Apple.
However, your comparison of a plagarized Master's Thesis is inaccurate. The patch software DIDN'T plagarize, it was an add-on to the software. Similar to further research. "Hey! You can also do this just by adding this!"
I got the impression from the story that Otherworld Computing was selling a 3rd party add-on/patch and NOT patched versions of iDVD. iDVD was still separate and this program was run to make a change. There is a world of difference.
This also highlites why there is no OS X for Intel hardware. Apple makes by far most of its money selling machines. Apple does not sell Intel hardware. Apple couldn't get the same margins selling Intel hardware.
Remember, one of the first things Jobs did upon his return was to kill the recently authorized Mac Clone market.
Apple does what is in Apple's best interests -- selling more Apple hardware. NOT what is necessarily in the user's/dealer's best interest. Frequently there is an overlap, but when they DO conflict, Apple will always side with Apple.
There may eventually be an OS X for Intel, but it will take a major thought-process shift in the upper echelons of Apple.
You aren't the only one.
That area caters mostly to tourists -- a lot of British and Brasillians.
For the longest time that playplace had a screendoor exit leading right out to the main street. They need it for fire purposes, but they have had so many little kids wander out towards that highway they now have a permanent "guard" there.
I hate that place.