My legal definition was from that same source you linked. I linked it in a different post.
Quote Sen. Paul:
"But Sen. Paul told TheDC that he certainly felt like he was detained. âoeIf you're told you can't leave, does that count as detention?" Paul asked.
"I tried to leave the cubicle to speak to one of the TSA people and I was barked at: 'Do not leave the cubicle!' So, that, to me sounds like I'm being asked not to leave the cubicle. It sounds a little bit like I'm being detained."
This is consistant with TSA policy in the past. They've threatened criminal action if a person leaves after refusing a patdown. Ergo a reasonable person under those circumstances would believe he or she was restrained and NOT free to go.
No, it wasn't part of my logic. I specifically stated that it had to be done under the claim of legal authority. Click on the definition I linked. It elaborates on that part.
Neither the bus company, cab company nor you (I think) have legal authority to restrain or arrest anyone. That is the difference. Claimed legal authority, legitimate or not.
The bus driver, you and the cab driver are private citizens and are committing crimes if you physically restrain someone. And no, not paying for a service and a private citizen not providing that service -- even one representing a common carrier or public transit provider -- is not the same thing.
Feel free to read Black's Law Dictionary or even The Free Dictionary for a definition of arrest.
You have nothing to say but nonsense, do you?
I could say the same thing about you. Your snarky comment about Congress being one of the main threats to our Constitution was poorly worded. You implied Congress *ITSELF* was a threat, hence my query about your replacement ideas.
It must be so, because I re-read it and it still looks like you are comparing disabling a GPS to disabling cookies. The cookies are possible, but a pain and most people don't do it.
The GPS is impossible -- not a matter of being lazy or indifferent.
Write even more slower. Use smaller words. Help me out here.:-)
"Arrest" is legally defined to mean restraint under color of authority. He was restrained under color of authority from utilizing a common carrier. That is, the TSA represented claimed legal authority and physically prevented him from proceeding to the Senate for a session.
The fact that they later allowed him passage and he was able to book a different flight has no bearing on their original action.
The purpose of the clause was originally to prevent the interference by the Executive branch with the Legislative branch doing their job. Arresting MPs and legislative members before going to disputed votes was -- and still remains, in some parts of the world -- a common tactic that this clause was explicitly meant to address.
As for the threat to people on the aircraft. The TSA is there to prevent physical threats of violence, not address ideological disputes.
Exactly what do you propose replacing Congress with and when will you have a draft of your Constitutional Amendment available for review?
They're talking about attaching a covert tracking device that uses GPS to record your location. It is placed covertly by law enforcement and retrieved covertly (they hope) by law enforcement. You have no access to the device and it is a criminal act if you tamper with it.
They are NOT talking about the navigation unit in your car or phone.
The Session convenes at 2:00 p.m. and the flight time from Nashville to D.C. is 2 hours. He was rebooked just before noon.
I seriously doubt he will make the opening of the session, but should comfortably make the 4:30 scheduled vote.
Regardless, the TSA should be exempting Representatives and Senators due to that clause in the Constitution. All jokes aside, those people are not in any way remotely a threat to an aircraft or the other people on board.
Incorrect. Speaking a the March of Life was on his agenda, but the Senate was reconvening a Session at 2:00 p.m. today and this was his return trip to D.C.
I remember a case in Orlando that was in the newspaper. The guy had a broken jaw and it was wired shut. His wife wanted to help him get drunk, so gave him a vodka enema.
He died from alcohol poisoning using only about half a bottle. Apparently it is absorbed into the system much faster that way.
The Asus Transformer running v2.3 Honeycomb had full disc encryption. When it started to boot, it would show a virtual keyboard and I'd have to enter my password.
It is a little easier on a tablet, with the bigger screen, but it certainly was possible and not cumbersome.
Considering Android was pretty much swiss cheese to begin with, you'd have to wonder why they'd bother.
And the risk involved in doing something like that and releasing it all as source code makes even less sense.
No, I think the simple truth is the NSA realizes that being secure is hard work. Even people whos lives depend on it get it wrong. The average schmoe hardening up their smartphone is still going to fall prey to an easily shoulder-surfed password. Or the XKCD $5 wrench. Or all of the data that goes thru the boot-licking telecom companies. Or... or...
No, this is probably the real deal. The NSA guys hate Blackberries as much as the rest of us and are looking for approved replacements.
It wasn't old, it was state-of-the-art, did not suck and I *loved* it. But, it wasn't what I needed to properly do my job.
I had an iPad 2 for 3 or 4 months as well, provided by my place of employment. Same issue and it went back as well.
I specialize in network security in large organizations. My job is fairly keyboard intensive and some of the tools are not available on iOS or Android. Those that are do not lend themselves to a touch interface.
Many people where I work have the same issues. The iPad and Android tablets are nice additions, but real work -- stuff intensive in Word, Excel or anything keyboard-intensive -- is best done on a laptop or desktop.
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
(d) Helicopters. Helicopters may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section if the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the surface. In addition, each person operating a helicopter shall comply with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters by the Administrator.
Believe it or not, supply and demand actually works.
If my boss reduced my wages to $0.50 per hour tomorrow I'd quit. And he would NOT be able to find anyone capable of replacing me at those rates.
He would have to either do without the services I rendered entirely, do them himself, or raise the wage to a level where a person competent in the field would accept them.
He WILL NOT do without, because I produce value which he combines with the labor and services of others to produce a larger profit.
He CAN NOT do it himself. He is not qualified and there is more work than he has resources.
He will RAISE the wage paid to a level where he will attract someone competent in performing the needed services.
Since he knows from experience that I am capable of doing the job, he is ASSUMING RISK in attempting to bring on someone else who may or may not be qualified. That risk has a cost.
Bringing him back to where we began -- not cutting my wage because that is what the market dictates for the services I provide.
I should point out that my position is not a commodity. I cannot be easily replaced because I have specialize skills. I also put a great deal of effort into keeping my skills current and acquiring new skills as I anticipate need.
Which is what I did. An ASUS Transformer w/keyboard dock. And I then found out it is a poor replacement for a laptop, and too damned expensive to use as an e-reader. I sold it on EBay 4 months after purchase and bought a cheap laptop.
The Transformer was much cooler, but I can actually get productive work done on the laptop.
You mean like X-Plane Pro? It'll cost you $5,000+ in FAA Certified hardware, in addition to the software, to be able to use the simulator to log some actual hours.
Maybe. But in their contest to name "agencies they will get rid of", I've heard the various Republicans name Education, Energy, the EPA and a couple others. Those three were fairly common to those candidates playing this game.
I don't believe any of them realize that the Dept. of Education was around in one form or another since 1867. It was in the 1980s that it was elevated to Cabinet level. I think their "get rid of the Dept. of XX" rhetoric probably translates more to reducing the various agencies to sub-Cabinet level organizations. Elevation to Cabinet level seems to bring with it a vastly heightened level of growth, cost and bureaucracy.
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My legal definition was from that same source you linked. I linked it in a different post.
Quote Sen. Paul:
This is consistant with TSA policy in the past. They've threatened criminal action if a person leaves after refusing a patdown. Ergo a reasonable person under those circumstances would believe he or she was restrained and NOT free to go.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/23/rand-paul-on-tsa-detainment-i-was-barked-at-do-not-leave-the-cubicle/
No, it wasn't part of my logic. I specifically stated that it had to be done under the claim of legal authority. Click on the definition I linked. It elaborates on that part.
Neither the bus company, cab company nor you (I think) have legal authority to restrain or arrest anyone. That is the difference. Claimed legal authority, legitimate or not.
The bus driver, you and the cab driver are private citizens and are committing crimes if you physically restrain someone. And no, not paying for a service and a private citizen not providing that service -- even one representing a common carrier or public transit provider -- is not the same thing.
Feel free to read Black's Law Dictionary or even The Free Dictionary for a definition of arrest.
You have nothing to say but nonsense, do you?
I could say the same thing about you. Your snarky comment about Congress being one of the main threats to our Constitution was poorly worded. You implied Congress *ITSELF* was a threat, hence my query about your replacement ideas.
It must be so, because I re-read it and it still looks like you are comparing disabling a GPS to disabling cookies. The cookies are possible, but a pain and most people don't do it.
The GPS is impossible -- not a matter of being lazy or indifferent.
Write even more slower. Use smaller words. Help me out here. :-)
"Arrest" is legally defined to mean restraint under color of authority. He was restrained under color of authority from utilizing a common carrier. That is, the TSA represented claimed legal authority and physically prevented him from proceeding to the Senate for a session.
The fact that they later allowed him passage and he was able to book a different flight has no bearing on their original action.
The purpose of the clause was originally to prevent the interference by the Executive branch with the Legislative branch doing their job. Arresting MPs and legislative members before going to disputed votes was -- and still remains, in some parts of the world -- a common tactic that this clause was explicitly meant to address.
As for the threat to people on the aircraft. The TSA is there to prevent physical threats of violence, not address ideological disputes.
Exactly what do you propose replacing Congress with and when will you have a draft of your Constitutional Amendment available for review?
Are you an idiot, or just trolling?
They're talking about attaching a covert tracking device that uses GPS to record your location. It is placed covertly by law enforcement and retrieved covertly (they hope) by law enforcement. You have no access to the device and it is a criminal act if you tamper with it.
They are NOT talking about the navigation unit in your car or phone.
The Session convenes at 2:00 p.m. and the flight time from Nashville to D.C. is 2 hours. He was rebooked just before noon.
I seriously doubt he will make the opening of the session, but should comfortably make the 4:30 scheduled vote.
Regardless, the TSA should be exempting Representatives and Senators due to that clause in the Constitution. All jokes aside, those people are not in any way remotely a threat to an aircraft or the other people on board.
Citations provided:
TSA expands to trains. Union Station in DC is popular, along with several of the larger subway stations. However, there were also high-profile incidents in Savannah, GA as well.: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/12/27/from-planes-to-trains-tsa-expands-spot-searches-to-union-station/
TSA expands to bus stops in Maryland and D.C. Additional incidents have been noted in Indianapolis.: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/dec/17/tsa-comes-to-your-bus-stop/
TSA partners with Tennessee for portable scanners at Interstate weigh stations: http://www.newschannel5.com/story/15725035/officials-claim-tennessee-becomes-first-state-to-deploy-vipr-statewide
VIPR is versatile.
Incorrect. Speaking a the March of Life was on his agenda, but the Senate was reconvening a Session at 2:00 p.m. today and this was his return trip to D.C.
There was no outstanding felony warrant for his arrest. Nor was he accused of actively Breach of Peace The rest is moot, and does not apply.
I remember a case in Orlando that was in the newspaper. The guy had a broken jaw and it was wired shut. His wife wanted to help him get drunk, so gave him a vodka enema.
He died from alcohol poisoning using only about half a bottle. Apparently it is absorbed into the system much faster that way.
Share and enjoy.
What if it was owned by a porn company and that was simply their mission statement?
The Asus Transformer running v2.3 Honeycomb had full disc encryption. When it started to boot, it would show a virtual keyboard and I'd have to enter my password.
It is a little easier on a tablet, with the bigger screen, but it certainly was possible and not cumbersome.
Considering Android was pretty much swiss cheese to begin with, you'd have to wonder why they'd bother.
And the risk involved in doing something like that and releasing it all as source code makes even less sense.
No, I think the simple truth is the NSA realizes that being secure is hard work. Even people whos lives depend on it get it wrong. The average schmoe hardening up their smartphone is still going to fall prey to an easily shoulder-surfed password. Or the XKCD $5 wrench. Or all of the data that goes thru the boot-licking telecom companies. Or... or...
No, this is probably the real deal. The NSA guys hate Blackberries as much as the rest of us and are looking for approved replacements.
It wasn't old, it was state-of-the-art, did not suck and I *loved* it. But, it wasn't what I needed to properly do my job.
I had an iPad 2 for 3 or 4 months as well, provided by my place of employment. Same issue and it went back as well.
I specialize in network security in large organizations. My job is fairly keyboard intensive and some of the tools are not available on iOS or Android. Those that are do not lend themselves to a touch interface.
Many people where I work have the same issues. The iPad and Android tablets are nice additions, but real work -- stuff intensive in Word, Excel or anything keyboard-intensive -- is best done on a laptop or desktop.
A mass of no more than 5 pounds? Shouldn't that be either a weight of no more than 5 pounds or a mass of no more than ~2.25 Kg?
They need to mush home with the teacher.
Actually, authored by the same guys who were put on skeleton crew by Congress *twice* in the last few months because of the budget debate.
Of course, *all* the laws are made by the government so they could easily exepmt the military or spy-guys if they wanted to.
How's the crime rate in London? Has it fallen significantly since they implemented this?
FAR Part 91.119
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
(d) Helicopters. Helicopters may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section if the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the surface. In addition, each person operating a helicopter shall comply with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters by the Administrator.
Believe it or not, supply and demand actually works.
If my boss reduced my wages to $0.50 per hour tomorrow I'd quit. And he would NOT be able to find anyone capable of replacing me at those rates.
He would have to either do without the services I rendered entirely, do them himself, or raise the wage to a level where a person competent in the field would accept them.
He WILL NOT do without, because I produce value which he combines with the labor and services of others to produce a larger profit.
He CAN NOT do it himself. He is not qualified and there is more work than he has resources.
He will RAISE the wage paid to a level where he will attract someone competent in performing the needed services.
Since he knows from experience that I am capable of doing the job, he is ASSUMING RISK in attempting to bring on someone else who may or may not be qualified. That risk has a cost.
Bringing him back to where we began -- not cutting my wage because that is what the market dictates for the services I provide.
I should point out that my position is not a commodity. I cannot be easily replaced because I have specialize skills. I also put a great deal of effort into keeping my skills current and acquiring new skills as I anticipate need.
I don't play WoW, but when I saw the latest expansion pack in the store and realized it was Kung Fu Panda, I knew the end was near.
Which is what I did. An ASUS Transformer w/keyboard dock. And I then found out it is a poor replacement for a laptop, and too damned expensive to use as an e-reader. I sold it on EBay 4 months after purchase and bought a cheap laptop.
The Transformer was much cooler, but I can actually get productive work done on the laptop.
You mean like X-Plane Pro? It'll cost you $5,000+ in FAA Certified hardware, in addition to the software, to be able to use the simulator to log some actual hours.
PDF/A.
If you work for the government, you should be asking NARA, not Slashdot. If you didn't know this, your records officer should.
Maybe. But in their contest to name "agencies they will get rid of", I've heard the various Republicans name Education, Energy, the EPA and a couple others. Those three were fairly common to those candidates playing this game.
I don't believe any of them realize that the Dept. of Education was around in one form or another since 1867. It was in the 1980s that it was elevated to Cabinet level. I think their "get rid of the Dept. of XX" rhetoric probably translates more to reducing the various agencies to sub-Cabinet level organizations. Elevation to Cabinet level seems to bring with it a vastly heightened level of growth, cost and bureaucracy.