I plan to continue to use ssh. The only threat appears to be lack of paying attention. It is not nice to expire host keys without warning users ahead of time.
On Unix, ssh is quite secure. Using it from M$ should be avoided, but admitably, it isn't allways an option. Other extreme security problems in Windoze, not ssh, appear to be the real problem. Just try to avoid doing remote system maintainance
from untrusted systems and clients.
I find this a bit funny. I personaly don't like
mobiles, but to think this old obsolete
technology is just apearing in the USA makes me
laugh. Is this "technology leadership"?
If it takes GSM to make the caller pay, that is good however. It is still a laugh over here that
the _receiving party_ pays for the call. Have
some respect for tradition! Equally funny is
when a phone is forwarded to here, the _receiver_
pays upto and over $1.00/min! (Payphomes are
ALOT less)
Beware GSM is a scam. A scam allways flys better
in the US of A. You've been warned. But what
good can this do for a country that cannot elect
a president?
Can the Internet survive without the US? - You bet it can! This is once again a largely US issue that
has had mostly positive impact on the world at large. All DVD playback systems sold in Australia
*must* be cracked and this will soon be the law here in Europe.
No matter what happens in the USA (or is it CSA?) Eric has done a marvelous job in assuring the
freedom of the 'real world'. It is worth fighting as if the US wins this battle the US loses the war.
Good riddance is what 95% of the world can say for the Facist States!
DMCA is also the product of the most corrupt and evil organisation the world has known. Here in Europe, you must support customers with matterial to make their products 'interoperatable'. GPL is a license some developers agree to and it is tried and true legally worldwide. DMCA is just 'American Bullshit' and it shows!
Ofcourse any hacker worth his salt could put the blame on anyone. This is a witch hunt and must stop, now and in the future. On "new money" that i think are cool, but use M$, i give this warning:
Hi Webmaster,
Interesting sight, but you use Micro$oft. As a responsible 'hacker type' it is my duty to inform you that you are using *dangerous* system and server software.
You can run 10x faster, 100x cheaper and somewhere between that more sec- urely if you use Apache and a strong Unix. (Suggest FreeBSD) Best of all, it is all free, and i just want to see you use the best of your Internet connection. The 100x reduction in cost *does not* include all the crashes and downtime Micro$oft offers you! I am really too busy to set you up with Un*x/Apache, but save big money making the smart switch. BSD goes up and stays that way. Solaris is also very good and so is Linux, if it is a 'non-standard' install. *All* offer Apache.
Well, I don't like the idea of inferiour products being offered as name brand. I must say however x86 is a dino-technology and there are Alphas and other true 64bit technologies available. As far as i'm concerned, personal purchases will be true "Unix boxes". I do believe that the 686 is a Un*x worthy processor, but if your thing is just Unix/Linux, get an Alpha! (There are other good systems, but Alpha is your best Unix bet)
Can't agree more. If all the energy is put into a http browser, we will get results faster. I don't need or ever use a pop-mailer and there are better newsreaders anyways. It is probably unnecesary to include html creation tools too. Just a *STABLE* browser that will run on my alpha is all i ask for.
I will complement the development team for bringing a very modern, non-.com style browser. I bet millions curse every day with Netscape when they hit 'shop'when they wanted the one next to it; 'stop'. There is just something intellectually insulting about the concept of 'shopping' and having to face it on a browser. Keep up the good work Mozilla and good riddance to the commercialism of the big browsers.
One final comment. I really like to use Mozilla as a real Unix application, meaning not needing to have to do a ^C to copy for instance. I'm sure these minor leaks from outdated M$ and Mac 'standards' are being addressed now. M14 does still have a few strange, but livable bugs. It appears to not know what to do with a non-absolute URL and sometimes renders in strange ways. (just refresh to fix) It sometimes doesn't know when to 'stop' and that is why i'm grateful there is no longer the risk of hitting 'shop'. I also take note many reported bugs involve features nobody needs in a browser. It isn't an operating system afterall, or is it? And, yes, i still seem to to be more confortable using vi to make these comments and for anything else text related.
Can't agree more. If all the energy is put into a http browser, we will get resu lts faster. I don't need or ever use a pop-mailer and there are better newsreade rs anyways. It is probably unnecesary to include html creation tools too. Just a *STABLE* browser that will run on my alpha is all i ask for.
I will complement the development team for bringing a very modern, non-.com styl e browser. I bet millions curse every day with Netscape when they hit 'shop' whe n they wanted the one next to it; 'stop'. There is just something intellectually insulting about the concept of 'shopping' and having to face it on a browser! K eep up the good work Mozilla and good riddance to the commercialism of the big b rowsers.
One final comment. I really like to use Mozilla as a real Unix application, mean ing not needing to have to do a ^C to copy for instance. I'm sure these minor le aks from outdated M$ and Mac 'standards' are being addressed now. M14 does still have a few strange, but livable bugs. It appears to not know what to do with a non-absolute URL and sometimes renders in strange ways. (just refresh to fix) It sometimes doesn't know when to 'stop' and that is why i'm grateful there is no longer the risk of hitting 'shop'. I also take note many reported bugs involve f eatures nobody needs in a browser. It isn't an operating system afterall, or is it? And, yes, i still seem to to be more confortable using vi to make these comm ents and for anything else text related.
I think Unixen is a good plural, like Vaxen for some old platform replaced by my Alpha. In general 'en' is reguarded as a Germanic plural. English is a Germanic language, but somewhere down the line the 's' became common in English and less common in the other Germanic languages. I also tend to cringe a bit at 'viruses' knowing 'en' is a far better plural indicator. In any case, both 'en' and 's' are valid plural indicators in Germanic languages.
Yes, this is me. I've been away in Holland for some time. I want to ask you if you use Web* and if so, why? I know an old friend of your's swears by it, do you? I know others that use it too.
Comment: Yes, the bluebox still works. It may be harder today as PCs can accurately generate the tones. I used a Demon Dialler (Hack-Tic technologies - my design) in the US a number of years ago and was able to call home fine.:)
Finally, Steve, what do you think of what we have done in Holland? Is it a mistake or would the 'world' have discovered the Internet sooner or later if i'd not escaped to this fine country? Remember we were up long before the ".com" nonsence and greed came into play.
Everyone must be using Unix today to be anyone. Since when did you see Windoze or even a Mac (that wasn't called; a "great Unix system") in a major motion picture? Why spend for Silicon Graphics when Linux or FreeBSD will do fine?
I use both systems (and more) and swear by them. Windoze just crashes and so does Mac. Not really the things movies are made of, is it?
In addition to 'getting the job done', you have to allways show the people something different. Can anything but the "big X" occupy this position?
....when doing it "brute force" no longer pays. I do believe the 64bit challenge will be broken that way, but some bright young student of maths is going to take the 72 - 128bit challenges in one go!
It may feel good to be part of a 'group effort' and some can (like floodnet, electrohippies, etc) can be so stubborn that i can do a 'strobe attack' to all the targets and accomplish single handedly what the whole group of 'surfers' (serfs?) attempt to do.
I'd admit whoever gets the whole challenge deserves the Nobel Prize, but rest assured it will happen like this and in this decade! In closing, i'd be a bit suspucious of "seti@home" or other group efforts. As a matter of fact, it is general policy to not allow participation in any of this on my servers, that includes Napster, just another great waste of resources.
Sweden is way out of bounds when it comes to its support of a 'war on drugs'. Booze is a bit expensive but otherwise from all the people i know from there, your country is quite progresive in many major areas such as non censorship and freedom of speech and general freedoms most countries only pretend to have.
If you have a part in the action it is worth it. For a salary, absolutely not. Therefore if you are working for a startup for peanuts, you just have to get those options! (you work harder too) Bank accounts are just a place for your 'toy money' and nothing else.
Bill - on my second startup, first one wildly successful.
Several countries in South America, Aisa and Eastern Europe do not recconise IP laws. Did it ever occur that posting on a private access server, while maybe not legal in many lands 'by the book' is 100% acceptable as these IP laws are unenforcable in this context. In most lands an unenforcable statute is an 'illegal law'.
I just wish Sweden was as rational in all areas but that is offtopic for now. If you are connected and it becomes illegal to link to certain sites in your country, there are several ways to circumvent such nonsence:
Link to a site in a country where it is legal to link to the site in question. (keep shell accounts in as many countries as possible) You could also choose to not link at all and instruct the user to copy/paste the URL. Ofcourse if there is anything 'illegal' to be linked word travels as fast as the Internet and it will not be possible to control. The very notion of applying law as we know it to information is absurd!
Wish all well that are in the jurisdiction of the California court and the DVD case. Ofcourse we in Europe laugh as the US just keeps falling deeper and deeper to protect a few special interests while neglecting national interests. Let us hope that this ruling and many that will follow will show the US they don't own the world.
Yes, i agree with Time's choice. I will also add that Time was running a "Fraude of the century" poll where L. Ron Hubbard was clearly winning and Gates was behind. Unfortunately this upset Co$ and M$ to no end and it was pulled. While these two might not be the most *evil* of the century, the poll was not about that and therefore quite agreeable to me.
I fully disagree with Time's 19th century person. T. Edison was both evil and a fraude. The real prize for then probably goes to another scientist, a woman, Marie Curie.
Kaht should stay away from computers while drunk:)
I was setting up a Linux for a friend who had one of these godforsaken things plus a trackball that looked like a giant rat. After several hours of 'getting used to' my error rate was simply attrocious. The plain old IBM 101 key (no penguin keys) is perfect for me in the qwerty format. Suggest anybody 'try before you buy'.
I don't know this one right off, but in my experience, the more confortable a piece of 'office furnurature' appears, the more likely it is going to mess you up! Here in Holland atleast, all screens should be atleast 17". Ofcourse special purpose (test & measurement, etc) can be smaller. 17" is quite adequate for running X, but is probably overkill for most client systems. The major exception is CAD, where bigger is definitely better.
The most worrying item is the mouse. When i use a GUI for a couple hours or so, my back goes out and then my arm and then my hand. There has got to be a better way! Finally, it is very surprising that telegraph operators never complained about RSI. Either using the bug (key) is ergonomic or other factors come into play in the modern environment.
In theory atleast, your problem is allready solved "in another universe". This would strike me as an interface problem. I've also read the startling conclusion that a 'quantum computer' would solve many problems without even being turned on! So several could solve most problems even if they don't exist. Ofcourse an infinite number of these machines don't 'exist', so the best i make of it all is that you must be able to build an interface to this strange universe(s) and everything is solved.
I don't think $1.5Million to a university is going to scratch the surface. I suspect a $Trillion or so will be spent before any practical results come of it. All i've seen so far is 'jars' of supercooled matterial that don't really solve anything.
Slashdot Mirror
I plan to continue to use ssh. The only threat appears to be lack of paying attention. It is not nice to expire host keys without warning users ahead of time.
On Unix, ssh is quite secure. Using it from M$ should be avoided, but admitably, it isn't allways an option. Other extreme security problems in Windoze, not ssh, appear to be the real problem. Just try to avoid doing remote system maintainance
from untrusted systems and clients.
I find this a bit funny. I personaly don't like
mobiles, but to think this old obsolete
technology is just apearing in the USA makes me
laugh. Is this "technology leadership"?
If it takes GSM to make the caller pay, that is good however. It is still a laugh over here that
the _receiving party_ pays for the call. Have
some respect for tradition! Equally funny is
when a phone is forwarded to here, the _receiver_
pays upto and over $1.00/min! (Payphomes are
ALOT less)
Beware GSM is a scam. A scam allways flys better
in the US of A. You've been warned. But what
good can this do for a country that cannot elect
a president?
Disgusted ex-pat
Can the Internet survive without the US? - You bet it can! This is once again a largely US issue that
has had mostly positive impact on the world at large. All DVD playback systems sold in Australia
*must* be cracked and this will soon be the law here in Europe.
No matter what happens in the USA (or is it CSA?) Eric has done a marvelous job in assuring the
freedom of the 'real world'. It is worth fighting as if the US wins this battle the US loses the war.
Good riddance is what 95% of the world can say for the Facist States!
I think i prefer that no software patents are valid. Fair is fair. The US is missing out on alot by following this totally insane course of politics.
BillSF
DMCA is also the product of the most corrupt and evil organisation the world has known. Here in Europe, you must support customers with matterial to make their products 'interoperatable'. GPL is a license some developers agree to and it is tried and true legally worldwide. DMCA is just 'American Bullshit' and it shows!
BillSF
Ofcourse any hacker worth his salt could put the blame on anyone. This is a witch hunt and must stop, now and in the future. On "new money" that i think are cool, but use M$, i give this warning:
Hi Webmaster,
Interesting sight, but you use Micro$oft. As a responsible 'hacker type'
it is my duty to inform you that you are using *dangerous* system and
server software.
You can run 10x faster, 100x cheaper and somewhere between that more sec-
urely if you use Apache and a strong Unix. (Suggest FreeBSD) Best of all,
it is all free, and i just want to see you use the best of your Internet
connection. The 100x reduction in cost *does not* include all the crashes
and downtime Micro$oft offers you! I am really too busy to set you up
with Un*x/Apache, but save big money making the smart switch. BSD goes up
and stays that way. Solaris is also very good and so is Linux, if it is a
'non-standard' install. *All* offer Apache.
<http://www.netcraft.com/survey/>
<http://www.attrition.org/>
Yours,
BillSF
Well, I don't like the idea of inferiour products being offered as name brand. I must say however x86 is
a dino-technology and there are Alphas and other true 64bit technologies available. As far as i'm concerned, personal purchases will be true "Unix boxes". I do believe that the 686 is a Un*x worthy
processor, but if your thing is just Unix/Linux, get an Alpha! (There are other good systems, but Alpha is your best Unix bet)
BillSF
Can't agree more. If all the energy is put into a http browser, we will
get results faster. I don't need or ever use a pop-mailer and there are
better newsreaders anyways. It is probably unnecesary to include html
creation tools too. Just a *STABLE* browser that will run on my alpha is
all i ask for.
I will complement the development team for bringing a very modern,
non-.com style browser. I bet millions curse every day with Netscape when
they hit 'shop'when they wanted the one next to it; 'stop'. There is just
something intellectually insulting about the concept of 'shopping' and
having to face it on a browser. Keep up the good work Mozilla and good
riddance to the commercialism of the big browsers.
One final comment. I really like to use Mozilla as a real Unix
application, meaning not needing to have to do a ^C to copy for instance.
I'm sure these minor leaks from outdated M$ and Mac 'standards' are being
addressed now. M14 does still have a few strange, but livable bugs. It
appears to not know what to do with a non-absolute URL and sometimes
renders in strange ways. (just refresh to fix) It sometimes doesn't know
when to 'stop' and that is why i'm grateful there is no longer the risk of
hitting 'shop'. I also take note many reported bugs involve features
nobody needs in a browser. It isn't an operating system afterall, or is
it? And, yes, i still seem to to be more confortable using vi to make
these comments and for anything else text related.
Can't agree more. If all the energy is put into a http browser, we will get resu
lts faster. I don't need or ever use a pop-mailer and there are better newsreade
rs anyways. It is probably unnecesary to include html creation tools too. Just a
*STABLE* browser that will run on my alpha is all i ask for.
I will complement the development team for bringing a very modern, non-.com styl
e browser. I bet millions curse every day with Netscape when they hit 'shop' whe
n they wanted the one next to it; 'stop'. There is just something intellectually
insulting about the concept of 'shopping' and having to face it on a browser! K
eep up the good work Mozilla and good riddance to the commercialism of the big b
rowsers.
One final comment. I really like to use Mozilla as a real Unix application, mean
ing not needing to have to do a ^C to copy for instance. I'm sure these minor le
aks from outdated M$ and Mac 'standards' are being addressed now. M14 does still
have a few strange, but livable bugs. It appears to not know what to do with a
non-absolute URL and sometimes renders in strange ways. (just refresh to fix) It
sometimes doesn't know when to 'stop' and that is why i'm grateful there is no
longer the risk of hitting 'shop'. I also take note many reported bugs involve f
eatures nobody needs in a browser. It isn't an operating system afterall, or is
it? And, yes, i still seem to to be more confortable using vi to make these comm
ents and for anything else text related.
I think Unixen is a good plural, like Vaxen for some old platform replaced by my Alpha. In general 'en' is reguarded as a Germanic plural. English is a Germanic language, but somewhere down the line the 's' became common in English and less common in the other Germanic languages. I also tend to cringe a bit at 'viruses' knowing 'en' is a far better plural indicator. In any case, both 'en' and 's' are valid plural indicators in Germanic languages.
This being the case, it sucks, case closed.
Do people really want Microsoft that bad? Maybe is is more like the 'candy cigarettes' i had as a hid? Sick.
Yes, this is me. I've been away in Holland for some time. I want to ask you if you use Web* and if so, why? I know an old friend of your's swears by it, do you? I know others that use it too.
:)
Comment: Yes, the bluebox still works. It may be harder today as PCs can accurately generate the tones. I used a Demon Dialler (Hack-Tic technologies - my design) in the US a number of years ago and was able to call home fine.
Finally, Steve, what do you think of what we have done in Holland? Is it a mistake or would the 'world' have discovered the Internet sooner or later if i'd not escaped to this fine country? Remember we were up long before the ".com" nonsence and greed came into play.
BillSF
That is my first programming language. Very cool and very extensible. I am very happy to see it still alive.
Grolsch! Do you dare be caught drinking the other brand? That is like using Windoze. Use M$ in Europe? Gotta be kidding.
(too many tonight)
Everyone must be using Unix today to be anyone. Since when did you see Windoze or even a Mac (that wasn't called; a "great Unix system") in a major motion picture? Why spend for Silicon Graphics when Linux or FreeBSD will do fine?
I use both systems (and more) and swear by them. Windoze just crashes and so does Mac. Not really the things movies are made of, is it?
In addition to 'getting the job done', you have to allways show the people something different. Can anything but the "big X" occupy this position?
....when doing it "brute force" no longer pays. I do believe the 64bit challenge will be broken that way, but some bright young student of maths is going to take the 72 - 128bit challenges in one go!
It may feel good to be part of a 'group effort' and some can (like floodnet, electrohippies, etc) can be so stubborn that i can do a 'strobe attack' to all the targets and accomplish single handedly what the whole group of 'surfers' (serfs?) attempt to do.
I'd admit whoever gets the whole challenge deserves the Nobel Prize, but rest assured it will happen like this and in this decade! In closing, i'd be a bit suspucious of "seti@home" or other group efforts. As a matter of fact, it is general policy to not allow participation in any of this on my servers, that includes Napster, just another great waste of resources.
Sweden is way out of bounds when it comes to its support of a 'war on drugs'. Booze is a bit expensive but otherwise from all the people i know from there, your country is quite progresive in many major areas such as non censorship and freedom of speech and general freedoms most countries only pretend to have.
If you have a part in the action it is worth it. For a salary, absolutely not. Therefore if you are working for a startup for peanuts, you just have to get those options! (you work harder too) Bank accounts are just a place for your 'toy money' and nothing else.
Bill - on my second startup, first one wildly successful.
Several countries in South America, Aisa and Eastern Europe do not recconise IP laws. Did it ever occur that posting on a private access server, while maybe not legal in many lands 'by the book' is 100% acceptable as these IP laws are unenforcable in this context. In most lands an unenforcable statute is an 'illegal law'.
I just wish Sweden was as rational in all areas but that is offtopic for now. If you are connected and it becomes illegal to link to certain sites in your country, there are several ways to circumvent such nonsence:
Link to a site in a country where it is legal to link to the site in question. (keep shell accounts in as many countries as possible) You could also choose to not link at all and instruct the user to copy/paste the URL. Ofcourse if there is anything 'illegal' to be linked word travels as fast as the Internet and it will not be possible to control. The very notion of applying law as we know it to information is absurd!
Wish all well that are in the jurisdiction of the California court and the DVD case. Ofcourse we in Europe laugh as the US just keeps falling deeper and deeper to protect a few special interests while neglecting national interests. Let us hope that this ruling and many that will follow will show the US they don't own the world.
Yes, i agree with Time's choice. I will also add that Time was running a "Fraude of the century" poll where L. Ron Hubbard was clearly winning and Gates was behind. Unfortunately this upset Co$ and M$ to no end and it was pulled. While these two might not be the most *evil* of the century, the poll was not about that and therefore quite agreeable to me.
:)
I fully disagree with Time's 19th century person. T. Edison was both evil and a fraude. The real prize for then probably goes to another scientist, a woman, Marie Curie.
Kaht should stay away from computers while drunk
I was setting up a Linux for a friend who had one of these godforsaken things plus a trackball that looked like a giant rat. After several hours of 'getting used to' my error rate was simply attrocious. The plain old IBM 101 key (no penguin keys) is perfect for me in the qwerty format. Suggest anybody 'try before you buy'.
I don't know this one right off, but in my experience, the more confortable a piece of 'office furnurature' appears, the more likely it is going to mess you up! Here in Holland atleast, all screens should be atleast 17". Ofcourse special purpose (test & measurement, etc) can be smaller. 17" is quite adequate for running X, but is probably overkill for most client systems. The major exception is CAD, where bigger is definitely better.
The most worrying item is the mouse. When i use a GUI for a couple hours or so, my back goes out and then my arm and then my hand. There has got to be a better way! Finally, it is very surprising that telegraph operators never complained about RSI. Either using the bug (key) is ergonomic or other factors come into play in the modern environment.
In theory atleast, your problem is allready solved "in another universe". This would strike me as an interface problem. I've also read the startling conclusion that a 'quantum computer' would solve many problems without even being turned on! So several could solve most problems even if they don't exist. Ofcourse an infinite number of these machines don't 'exist', so the best i make of it all is that you must be able to build an interface to this strange universe(s) and everything is solved.
I don't think $1.5Million to a university is going to scratch the surface. I suspect a $Trillion or so will be spent before any practical results come of it. All i've seen so far is 'jars' of supercooled matterial that don't really solve anything.