Second.. it IS rediculous to claim 'billions' in losses because of them. I've seen my fair share of warez groups.. they hoard software so they can be bigger & better than the next guy. Almost nothing actually gets USED by anyone, even those downloading it.
Exactly! I've been warezing for a while now, and always for the same reason. "Try before you buy." Back in the 'old days' I spent a lot of money buying games and programs that were absolute crap. Now that I (and other users) have "choice" though means such as p2p, gnutella, etc, we can grab a copy of a program, see if it is worth it or if it's shit, and then decide if we want to buy it. Sometimes expireware and crippleware just doesn't do it. Same with video, same with audio. It's all about choice for the user I think.
It's still up to the user to buy it if they use it, and I can see that the average warez kiddie isn't going to buy their pirated copy of XP or photoshop, but for businesses who have the money to buy a program legally after it's been tried for a bit in a production environment.
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I was under the impression that the slimmp3 was controlled by a standard remote (included in the package) and not from the computer.
Yes, schools do need cash, computers etc, but shouldn't MS have to pay the people it's been screwing over all these years? The OEMs, the stores, the consumers? Don't get me wrong, it's honorable to try to pay reprimands for their monopoly by ehrmm.... extending their monopoly through schools... Hmm... that doesn't work.
Money for schools is always good, but normally when you are punished for doing ill to someone, it's to that person or people you have to at least appologize to. Course, that's assuming that the legal system in my neighbors to the south didn't suck, eh?:)
YM "Give away a product that costs next to nothing to produce and let us cement ourselves even more into a monopoly by giving more and more people our OS".
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Maybe there's a larger picture that we're not seeing here. X-Box is taking MS out of the computer room and putting it into the living room. From what I remember MS has another home entertainment system they are going to be developing / pushing that will do the same thing. Maybe they are hoping to be the vendor for ANYTHING electronic that you do, from checking your email to defrosting your car...
Of course, and MS, knowing they have an inferior console need a way to "persuade" people to buy it. Holding a hugely anticipated game "hostage" seems like a pretty good idea to me! From what I've heard about X-Box, all the marketing in the world (and there's how many million going into the launch?) isn't going to save it. I'm not a console gamer, so I can't say the controller sucks, or x, y or z is wrong with it, but I've heard that it's not going to do well from a pure console POV from the console gamers. Of course, the whole fact that it's a glorified PC in a box running windows doesn't help much either. I don't know if the public will be able to accept this weird shift/combination of console and computer (or if they should).
I'm very glad to hear that. I so want to dump netscape you have no idea, and evolution is the nearest thing to being able to do that, so that's very good to hear. Course, it being done for 1.01 would be great too:)
Two other issues they may or may not have resolved...
1 - Connecting to self signed SSL sites you are prompted EVERY TIME EVOLUTION STARTS about the cert.... can't they just put in a 'don't bug me about this' button?
2 - x509 enc/decrypt/verify support is something linux is sorely missing in a mail client. netscape mail has it, but lets be honest, that sucks ass. evolution has promised this, even had the dialog boxen in, but still nothing on the backend.
Once they fix these, and all the times that it hangs for no reason, oh, and the virtual folder refresh thing
Agreed, except I can see where a project like mp3kult could be handy for mp3 collectors such as myself. I am right now doing everything by hand, using a combination of id3ed, id3ren, mp3rename, mp3_check, and a couple of others and organizing everything in a directory heirarchy. However, once they are all organized, I'd like to get them into a database so that I can easily do searches and things. If I want to see all files with a a bitrate 128 that's very easy with a database, but not as easy with a flat text file or using xmms:) It's bloat yes, and it's un-needed, but I can see where it can be useful for organization. As an aside, the little I've played with mp3kult it seemed pretty snazzy, built in player, built in editing of tags and filenames from the DB, etc etc. Very sweet.
Erhm.... no, no goat in userfriendly. They have a dustpuppy, a crudpuppy, and an AI named Erwin though. If you're into goats in comic strips, check out Goats.
I didn't mean to imply it was a minimul install. I meant to imply that it was smaller than the "full install" size by far and was a fully running system without any excessive stripping of files (IE: trying to get as small an install as possible).
Small installs aren't limited to slackware you know.... I just finished creating a mp3 player for my network with a P133/32mb ram and a 3G hard drive. The debian install is only about 160 megs though, base files plus apache, php, and mpg123.
Don't forget that just because a distro has requirements of a PIII and 2G of hard drive means that that's what it actually requires. Slack *is* nice and small yes, but that's not to say that other (major) distros can't be nice and small either.
I think you mean "a free site that simply runs off banner ads and donations"... but is backed by a large linux company (VA) that has lots of ca$h money to throw at popular linux "products" such as/. for servers and whatnot.
K, I'm in the middle of organizing a bunch of mp3s, so I downloaded and tried it, and figured I'd throw my observations up here.
First of all, only an RPM. Sure, alien converted it to.deb easy enough, but still, the option of.deb,.tgz and.rpm would have been nice.
Adding files is a PITA. You can't select multiple files in the playlist editor, and it doesn't take filenames on the command line like xmms does. There is a neat split in the playlist editor, and that might have let you add directories, but I didn't play with it.
When you do get files in their playlist, the player takes about 70% of the CPU. Xmms has usage way below that. (my cpu is at 16% now, and I have a lot more than xmms going:)
Sloooooooooooooooooooow. Moving windows around, opening windows, was slow and laggy. Probably having to do with the cpu usage.
Fonts are pretty gross. Quite possibly my X setup though. Anyone else have everything come up in a large courier font?
The automatic music stream retriever was pretty cool
None of the windows 'docked' togeather like xmms or winamp under windows.
Stability... while moving windows around and opening and closing the little 'helper' windows it crashed on me.
All in all pretty dissapointing. Now I am very pleased that they are doing this! I hope their product gets better, addressing the above points, and that xmms has to get their asses moving to make thier product better (competition is good right?) But for me right now winamp doesn't cut it. Totall time of playing with it was a couple of minutes (less than it took for a song to play)before it crashed.
This is a pretty poor review as I didn't have much clue as to what I was doing, and didn't spend that long on it, but for what I am looking for, no thanks.
Because the benevolant and wise microsoft has decided to tie the brower into the OS, you'll notice there is no "quit" option in IE. Under linux you can kill these sites by exiting netscape or galeon or whatever with ^q. IE you have to pretty much reboot to get rid of them.
Interesting analogy, but not quite. Probably a troll too, but I'll bite.
Lets say I like 8 of the 40 songs on my favorite artist's latest 4 CDs. I, as a consumer would like to listen to just those songs. Seems reasonable enough right? 5 years ago I would have just set up my CD/Tape player and "ripped" those songs onto a tape. Nowadays I rip to MP3 and burn onto my own CD and play that.
Unfortunately the music industry says I don't have the right to do that, nor rip all my music to mp3 to listen to at work, or in my MP3-CD car stereo.
Perhaps a better analogy would be if the vending machines would sell you your snickers bar, but only if you bought the "candy bar pack #3" for $18. "But I don't want all those other candy bars! I just want snickers!" you say. "Sorry, the snickers back is ONLY available in the candy bar pack #3... oh, and removing that bar from the pack and giving it to your friend there to see how good snickers bars are isn't allowed either, he has to buy the candy bar pack #3 for $18 as well."
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Second.. it IS rediculous to claim 'billions' in losses because of them. I've seen my fair share of warez groups.. they hoard software so they can be bigger & better than the next guy. Almost nothing actually gets USED by anyone, even those downloading it.
Exactly! I've been warezing for a while now, and always for the same reason. "Try before you buy." Back in the 'old days' I spent a lot of money buying games and programs that were absolute crap. Now that I (and other users) have "choice" though means such as p2p, gnutella, etc, we can grab a copy of a program, see if it is worth it or if it's shit, and then decide if we want to buy it. Sometimes expireware and crippleware just doesn't do it. Same with video, same with audio. It's all about choice for the user I think.
It's still up to the user to buy it if they use it, and I can see that the average warez kiddie isn't going to buy their pirated copy of XP or photoshop, but for businesses who have the money to buy a program legally after it's been tried for a bit in a production environment.
I was under the impression that the slimmp3 was controlled by a standard remote (included in the package) and not from the computer.
Yes, schools do need cash, computers etc, but shouldn't MS have to pay the people it's been screwing over all these years? The OEMs, the stores, the consumers? Don't get me wrong, it's honorable to try to pay reprimands for their monopoly by ehrmm.... extending their monopoly through schools... Hmm... that doesn't work.
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Money for schools is always good, but normally when you are punished for doing ill to someone, it's to that person or people you have to at least appologize to. Course, that's assuming that the legal system in my neighbors to the south didn't suck, eh?
YM "Give away a product that costs next to nothing to produce and let us cement ourselves even more into a monopoly by giving more and more people our OS".
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IE: exactly what they've been doing all along
Yeah, that's real fucking useful -- we can view the code, but we can't improve it (incompatibly).
That sounds like the MS Shared Source concept, except it'd read "we can view the code if you pay a buttload of money, but we can't improve it..."
Bah...
Another good one is apachetoolbox.com, it's a nice little shell script that does all that automatically.
You've never heard of Vigor?
Maybe there's a larger picture that we're not seeing here. X-Box is taking MS out of the computer room and putting it into the living room. From what I remember MS has another home entertainment system they are going to be developing / pushing that will do the same thing. Maybe they are hoping to be the vendor for ANYTHING electronic that you do, from checking your email to defrosting your car...
You can convert ext2->reiser? I didn't realize this... anyone got links to this tool?
Of course, and MS, knowing they have an inferior console need a way to "persuade" people to buy it. Holding a hugely anticipated game "hostage" seems like a pretty good idea to me! From what I've heard about X-Box, all the marketing in the world (and there's how many million going into the launch?) isn't going to save it. I'm not a console gamer, so I can't say the controller sucks, or x, y or z is wrong with it, but I've heard that it's not going to do well from a pure console POV from the console gamers. Of course, the whole fact that it's a glorified PC in a box running windows doesn't help much either. I don't know if the public will be able to accept this weird shift/combination of console and computer (or if they should).
I'm very glad to hear that. I so want to dump netscape you have no idea, and evolution is the nearest thing to being able to do that, so that's very good to hear. Course, it being done for 1.01 would be great too :)
Two other issues they may or may not have resolved...
1 - Connecting to self signed SSL sites you are prompted EVERY TIME EVOLUTION STARTS about the cert.... can't they just put in a 'don't bug me about this' button?
2 - x509 enc/decrypt/verify support is something linux is sorely missing in a mail client. netscape mail has it, but lets be honest, that sucks ass. evolution has promised this, even had the dialog boxen in, but still nothing on the backend.
Once they fix these, and all the times that it hangs for no reason, oh, and the virtual folder refresh thing
Agreed, except I can see where a project like mp3kult could be handy for mp3 collectors such as myself. I am right now doing everything by hand, using a combination of id3ed, id3ren, mp3rename, mp3_check, and a couple of others and organizing everything in a directory heirarchy. However, once they are all organized, I'd like to get them into a database so that I can easily do searches and things. If I want to see all files with a a bitrate 128 that's very easy with a database, but not as easy with a flat text file or using xmms :) It's bloat yes, and it's un-needed, but I can see where it can be useful for organization. As an aside, the little I've played with mp3kult it seemed pretty snazzy, built in player, built in editing of tags and filenames from the DB, etc etc. Very sweet.
Funnily enough I was the one who started the irc channel, and was also part of Keth's conspiricy to get Illiad a llama (stuffed) for his very own :)
Erhm.... no, no goat in userfriendly. They have a dustpuppy, a crudpuppy, and an AI named Erwin though. If you're into goats in comic strips, check out Goats.
I didn't mean to imply it was a minimul install. I meant to imply that it was smaller than the "full install" size by far and was a fully running system without any excessive stripping of files (IE: trying to get as small an install as possible).
Small installs aren't limited to slackware you know.... I just finished creating a mp3 player for my network with a P133/32mb ram and a 3G hard drive. The debian install is only about 160 megs though, base files plus apache, php, and mpg123.
Don't forget that just because a distro has requirements of a PIII and 2G of hard drive means that that's what it actually requires. Slack *is* nice and small yes, but that's not to say that other (major) distros can't be nice and small either.
I think you mean "a free site that simply runs off banner ads and donations" ... but is backed by a large linux company (VA) that has lots of ca$h money to throw at popular linux "products" such as /. for servers and whatnot.
Hell, there's so much spam and ads and flash streams on the net these days it's almost as good :)
It's called 'internet time' ;)
First of all, only an RPM. Sure, alien converted it to .deb easy enough, but still, the option of .deb, .tgz and .rpm would have been nice.
Adding files is a PITA. You can't select multiple files in the playlist editor, and it doesn't take filenames on the command line like xmms does. There is a neat split in the playlist editor, and that might have let you add directories, but I didn't play with it.
When you do get files in their playlist, the player takes about 70% of the CPU. Xmms has usage way below that. (my cpu is at 16% now, and I have a lot more than xmms going :)
Sloooooooooooooooooooow. Moving windows around, opening windows, was slow and laggy. Probably having to do with the cpu usage.
Fonts are pretty gross. Quite possibly my X setup though. Anyone else have everything come up in a large courier font?
The automatic music stream retriever was pretty cool
None of the windows 'docked' togeather like xmms or winamp under windows.
Stability... while moving windows around and opening and closing the little 'helper' windows it crashed on me.
All in all pretty dissapointing. Now I am very pleased that they are doing this! I hope their product gets better, addressing the above points, and that xmms has to get their asses moving to make thier product better (competition is good right?) But for me right now winamp doesn't cut it. Totall time of playing with it was a couple of minutes (less than it took for a song to play)before it crashed.
This is a pretty poor review as I didn't have much clue as to what I was doing, and didn't spend that long on it, but for what I am looking for, no thanks.
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Because the benevolant and wise microsoft has decided to tie the brower into the OS, you'll notice there is no "quit" option in IE. Under linux you can kill these sites by exiting netscape or galeon or whatever with ^q. IE you have to pretty much reboot to get rid of them.
Go MS!
Interesting analogy, but not quite. Probably a troll too, but I'll bite.
Lets say I like 8 of the 40 songs on my favorite artist's latest 4 CDs. I, as a consumer would like to listen to just those songs. Seems reasonable enough right? 5 years ago I would have just set up my CD/Tape player and "ripped" those songs onto a tape. Nowadays I rip to MP3 and burn onto my own CD and play that.
Unfortunately the music industry says I don't have the right to do that, nor rip all my music to mp3 to listen to at work, or in my MP3-CD car stereo.
Perhaps a better analogy would be if the vending machines would sell you your snickers bar, but only if you bought the "candy bar pack #3" for $18. "But I don't want all those other candy bars! I just want snickers!" you say. "Sorry, the snickers back is ONLY available in the candy bar pack #3... oh, and removing that bar from the pack and giving it to your friend there to see how good snickers bars are isn't allowed either, he has to buy the candy bar pack #3 for $18 as well."