According to repeated surveys of job adverts over the last 3 years Java is the 2nd most popular programming language after C++ and occasionally it has ranked above C++. Visual Basic generally ranks as 3rd most popular language in these surveys.
I run a web site aimed at Java Programmer Certification (http://www.jchq.net) and it gets many tens of thousands of page requests per week. Reports of the death of Java have been somewhat exaggerated.
Ahh download for free sounds like a very nice price, then you start reading it off the screen and its a really horrible experience. So you decide to print it out, two hours of mucking around with your home laser printer and a whole pile of paper and you have a large messy not so portable version of the book. And there is the little business of the two hourse of your time (but perhaps your time is free and there is nothing else you would rather be doing with it)
But perhaps you can do it at work where the paper and toner is "free", uh wait a minite it is not really free it belongs to someone else, now there is a name for that.
Or you could just buy it and have something that looks good, is portable, readable, lendable and shelfable.
So why is SJP laughable? because it only covers the basics of the language. I believe it says what it does on the box.It seems a good place to start, it doesn't say you are a good programmer, doesn't say you are a good Java programmer, just that a multi billion dollar corp has tested you on the basic knowledge of a language.
When WordPerfect had total market dominance, Microsoft word was not 100% compatible, but that didn't stop Microsoft. Star Office will never be 100% compatible, it doesn't need to be. As ever with software it needs to be good enough for most people most of the time.
Hands up all those (like me) who have no idea of
the implication of calling people soccer moms. In the UK where I live, soccer is more associated with single men than mothers, and rugby is much more popular than soccer in Australia.Is it a US specific reference? Note the meaning of the ww in www.
There has been a cutback in the overall demand for internet development skills. Java is the number 1 most in demand internet development skill, thus there has been a cutback in the demand for Java skills. This has no implication for the demand for Java skills vs competing technologies.
Marcus
One of my areas of interest is Java and two excellent books on that topic are available as freely downloadable files and they also sell in the shops. Bruce Eckels Thinking in Java can be downloaded in various formats and I can buy it in my local book shop.
Ed Romans (excellent) EJB book is downloadable in exchange for registering at the serverside web site and is also available from one of the mainstream tech book publishers. These are top notch highly rated books.
I suspect the authors make up in the lecturing and reputation anything they loose in the retail. Bruce sells a CD video and the book acts as a sales tool for this.
I have been writing a java certification tutorial as a web site http://www.jchq.net that has grown into a book. Maybe I'll buy a duplex laser printer and offer it in dead tree format in exchange for money. I suspect there will be a market from those who can't be bothered to muck about with printers, folders and loads of paper.
None of these ideas involves making the books "open source", the authors keep the exclusive rights to sell the printed version, but jo and joanne public get a benefit of the content for close to free if they so choose.
Marcus
Cobalt ok for trivial awful for complex
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If you stick to real plain perl and static pages cobalt is OK. Try doing some servlet stuff and ooooh!.
Maybe Sun will improve the Java support.
"Hows the gun riddled USA looking now? Pretty good I bet". Hmm, still anoyne is very, very unlikely to be shot in the UK. Maybe it is not related to the draconian gun laws though.
Most of the Java GUI tools are written in Java these days (JBuilder, Visual Age, Forte) and it is handy for cross platform configuration tools eg the Apache configuration utility Vision.
You can use it for anything that does not require blinding speed or low level manipulation. If you assume Linux is going to be massive it is handy to be able to develop for the huge existing Win32 base and be able to run directly on the OS of the GNU generation.
It would be handy for anyone who wanted to write code that would run on Linux and Windows. This is important if you think that Linux is going to be sucessfull (chuckles) Marcus
"Actually, that's the exact reason they put it in there. Yes it was for the militia but the militia's job was as the final check on a tyrranical federal government or invading army. "
Ahh, so the irregular or territorial army ought to be able to overthrow the central government. Any particular decision mechanism as to when they should decide its time for a revolution?.
This seems an utter red herring in terms of gun control debate.
"During times of civil war or civil unrest gun owners have the ability to protect themselves from totalitarian governments."
I suspect it just gives more people the means to more quickly join in the civil war on whatever side they think is more just.
"The right to bare arms is all about protecting yourself from the government".
Seems a lot of other people think it is about protecting themselves from other citizens. I get the impression it was originally about running a militia. Can't imagine the framers of the US constitution sitting around saying, hey we had better give them the chance to shoot us if we get a bit uppity.
Any ideas of what the chance of being shot in Australia vs the chances of being shot in the US. Not of course that this would be related the the ratio of gun ownership.
Transaction Processing makes databases fall over
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In the last 10 years of database admin, mainly on Sybase and MS SQL Server the number one cause of problems requiring me to spend ages mucking around with systems is out of control logs generated by the transaction processing features (commit/rollback).
None of these systems ever used any of these logs. No transactions were ever rolled back. The entire effect of the TP system was to regularly make the database system fall over.
Now if you really need TP you gotta have it and you have to do the admin and that's life. For those jobs something like MySQL is not suited.
But if you want blindingly fast read, minimum admin, low cost and resource use MySQL is an excellent product and you will never have to truncate a log to free up disk space.
I'm kind of interested in Interbase as a product between the simplicity/low cost of MySQL and features/bloat/benefit/cost of Oracle and the like though.
Versions of *nix including Linux allow you to limit the amount of hard disk space a user occupies (quotas) . Windows NT does not (well all versions up to and including V4 do not). As hard disk space is one of the most important network resources this indicates those versions of NT have a severe limitation as a network server.
Oh yes Novell and even old IBM lan man had disk quotas.
Whilst the New Riders Java Certification book got what was probably (and rightly) the worst reveiws ever, this MySQL book seems to cut the mustard and beat the O'Reilly offering.
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Can you indicate which clause of the GPL you believe obliges making the source available to anyone?
According to repeated surveys of job adverts over the last 3 years Java is the 2nd most popular programming language after C++ and occasionally it has ranked above C++. Visual Basic generally ranks as 3rd most popular language in these surveys. I run a web site aimed at Java Programmer Certification (http://www.jchq.net) and it gets many tens of thousands of page requests per week. Reports of the death of Java have been somewhat exaggerated.
What program do you think you are running if you run /bin/vi under Linux?
300 million europeans?
I think that "HORSESHIT" is far too mild a response to this statement. But I gess that security is never important until something awful happens.
Would anyone like to give this activity a name?
Ahh download for free sounds like a very nice price, then you start reading it off the screen and its a really horrible experience. So you decide to print it out, two hours of mucking around with your home laser printer and a whole pile of paper and you have a large messy not so portable version of the book. And there is the little business of the two hourse of your time (but perhaps your time is free and there is nothing else you would rather be doing with it)
But perhaps you can do it at work where the paper and toner is "free", uh wait a minite it is not really free it belongs to someone else, now there is a name for that.
Or you could just buy it and have something that looks good, is portable, readable, lendable and shelfable.
So why is SJP laughable? because it only covers the basics of the language. I believe it says what it does on the box.It seems a good place to start, it doesn't say you are a good programmer, doesn't say you are a good Java programmer, just that a multi billion dollar corp has tested you on the basic knowledge of a language.
A reasonable deal for $150?
When WordPerfect had total market dominance, Microsoft word was not 100% compatible, but that didn't stop Microsoft. Star Office will never be 100% compatible, it doesn't need to be. As ever with software it needs to be good enough for most people most of the time.
Hands up all those (like me) who have no idea of the implication of calling people soccer moms. In the UK where I live, soccer is more associated with single men than mothers, and rugby is much more popular than soccer in Australia.Is it a US specific reference? Note the meaning of the ww in www.
Marcus
"While people laud him, microsoft is stealing gnome's crappy code and putting it into Microsoft products"
Can you give an example of Microsoft using gnome code?
Fascinating though your comments on Austria are, this thread is not about Austria, it's about Australia.
Try reading the whole document
There has been a cutback in the overall demand for internet development skills. Java is the number 1 most in demand internet development skill, thus there has been a cutback in the demand for Java skills. This has no implication for the demand for Java skills vs competing technologies. Marcus
One of my areas of interest is Java and two excellent books on that topic are available as freely downloadable files and they also sell in the shops. Bruce Eckels Thinking in Java can be downloaded in various formats and I can buy it in my local book shop.
Ed Romans (excellent) EJB book is downloadable in exchange for registering at the serverside web site and is also available from one of the mainstream tech book publishers. These are top notch highly rated books.
I suspect the authors make up in the lecturing and reputation anything they loose in the retail. Bruce sells a CD video and the book acts as a sales tool for this.
I have been writing a java certification tutorial as a web site http://www.jchq.net that has grown into a book. Maybe I'll buy a duplex laser printer and offer it in dead tree format in exchange for money. I suspect there will be a market from those who can't be bothered to muck about with printers, folders and loads of paper.
None of these ideas involves making the books "open source", the authors keep the exclusive rights to sell the printed version, but jo and joanne public get a benefit of the content for close to free if they so choose.
Marcus
If you stick to real plain perl and static pages cobalt is OK. Try doing some servlet stuff and ooooh!. Maybe Sun will improve the Java support.
"Hows the gun riddled USA looking now? Pretty good I bet". Hmm, still anoyne is very, very unlikely to be shot in the UK. Maybe it is not related to the draconian gun laws though.
Most of the Java GUI tools are written in Java these days (JBuilder, Visual Age, Forte) and it is handy for cross platform configuration tools eg the Apache configuration utility Vision.
You can use it for anything that does not require blinding speed or low level manipulation. If you assume Linux is going to be massive it is handy to be able to develop for the huge existing Win32 base and be able to run directly on the OS of the GNU generation.
It would be handy for anyone who wanted to write code that would run on Linux and Windows. This is important if you think that Linux is going to be sucessfull (chuckles) Marcus
"Actually, that's the exact reason they put it in
there. Yes it was for the militia but the
militia's job was as the final check on a
tyrranical federal government or invading army. "
Ahh, so the irregular or territorial army ought to be able to overthrow the central government. Any particular decision mechanism as to when they should decide its time for a revolution?.
This seems an utter red herring in terms of gun control debate.
"During times of civil war or civil unrest gun owners have the ability to protect themselves from totalitarian governments."
I suspect it just gives more people the means to more quickly join in the civil war on whatever side they think is more just.
"The right to bare arms is all about protecting yourself from the government".
Seems a lot of other people think it is about protecting themselves from other citizens. I get the impression it was originally about running a militia. Can't imagine the framers of the US constitution sitting around saying, hey we had better give them the chance to shoot us if we get a bit uppity.
Any ideas of what the chance of being shot in Australia vs the chances of being shot in the US. Not of course that this would be related the the ratio of gun ownership.
In the last 10 years of database admin, mainly on Sybase and MS SQL Server the number one cause of problems requiring me to spend ages mucking around with systems is out of control logs generated by the transaction processing features (commit/rollback).
None of these systems ever used any of these logs. No transactions were ever rolled back. The entire effect of the TP system was to regularly make the database system fall over.
Now if you really need TP you gotta have it and you have to do the admin and that's life. For those jobs something like MySQL is not suited.
But if you want blindingly fast read, minimum admin, low cost and resource use MySQL is an excellent product and you will never have to truncate a log to free up disk space.
I'm kind of interested in Interbase as a product between the simplicity/low cost of MySQL and features/bloat/benefit/cost of Oracle and the like though.
Versions of *nix including Linux allow you to limit the amount of hard disk space a user occupies (quotas) . Windows NT does not (well all versions up to and including V4 do not). As hard disk space is one of the most important network resources this indicates those versions of NT have a severe limitation as a network server.
Oh yes Novell and even old IBM lan man had disk quotas.
Marcus
Whilst the New Riders Java Certification book got what was probably (and rightly) the worst reveiws ever, this MySQL book seems to cut the mustard and beat the O'Reilly offering.