"It is the first to have a horizontal alignment", implying the first Game Boy not the first handheld console.
Are you people just trying to find 'mistakes' where there are none?
Actually, the sentence was rather ambiguous regarding whether it referred to the first handheld, or first Game Boy. Details matter in a world where marketing relies on word games.
Hand write your representatives and inform them of your digust with this law.
This may be more effective with new reps than incumbents, as the DMCA was unanimously passed. New reps might not have been subject to MPAA lobbying efforts yet. Some incumbents might (hell, probably did) pass the law without really understanding what it does; there was a letter in 2600 a couple issues back about a guy who runs into a southern Senator and explains to him why the DMCA is a bad thing.
These things are what allow projects like xine and LiViD to exist with a relative lack of legal molestation.
xine doesn't include CSS support by default. You can get a version of Xine with libcss support at the Xine resource page (along with a DXR3-enabled version, if you have that card). OMS links to libcss as well. So neither program actually includes it, but they link to it. As well, LiVid developer Matt Pavlovich was charged under the DMCA in California court for distributing DeCSS - strange, since he isn't a California citizen, and he was really (as far as I can tell) distributing css-auth, the non-ripper version of the CSS decryption scheme.
The DMCA itself is strictly an AMERICAN law and has no jurisdiction * anywhere * else in the world.
What worries me is that DMCA-like laws may be quietly pushed into force in other nations, like my own, which tends to bend over for any large US entity that tries to lean on it. In Canada, it would be even worse; we have no system of "fair use" up here, only a very strictly defined system known as "fair dealing", which basically says the copyright holder can set whatever limits they want on use of their work, and anything else in infringement. Just posessing DeCSS/css-auth could be very quickly made illegal up here.
Javascript support with the ability to disable window.open
Got both; check the 0.8 release notes, what's new, last item.
fine-grained cookie management
Seems to have it.
To each their own, but I personally can't see any reason to use Mozilla over Konqueror.
How about "I don't use KDE2" or "I don't have it installed"? Let's not forget "I don't run Linux/BSD, and I'd rather not use IE." Keep in mind, Mozilla's goal has been to be truly cross-OS, cross-architecture, while being a fully-fledged web browser (and development platform). I would think that would take longer than just writing a working browser for one or two OSes on one desktop. I've run both; Moz is almost as fast as Konq, and about the same size when you take into account the fact that Konqueror uses some kdeinit functions (try running it under GNOME to see what I mean).
Konqueror's a great browser, but it's developers haven't had to deal with the same challenges the Mozilla crew has. You can't fairly compare the two unless that's taken into account.
In any event, I uninstalled KDE2 long ago, so Mozilla it is...and I'm very happy with tha
Once in a while, I'll boot into Windows to watch my legally-purchased DVDs on my legally-purchased DVD-ROM drive (unless Xine works, in which case...anyway...). I've used Mozilla 0.8 on Win95 OSR2, and Windows NT 4.0 sp-something. Runs like a dream. On the three platforms I've had a chance to run Mozilla 0.8 on, I have had one crash since release.
One.
Considering that Moz isn't using many native graphical hooks on any platform to draw widgets, but is drawing its own instead, I'd say it runs pretty good. Hell, I've found it's as fast as IE on the Win32 platforms I've used it on.
Re-read that. Mozilla 0.8 is as fast as IE on Win32. In fact, it's been as fast since Mozilla 0.6. I now try to avoid IE whenever possible.
What, you think HP would actually just toss Debian on there and let the users flail away with a command prompt on a tiny screen and a stylus? You don't think HP's going to go out and either find some apps that will work well on the Journada, or write their own?
I realize it seems funny to think of geeks trying to type at command prompts on their geeky handhelds, but you can bet the Windows CE license fee HP won't tank the handheld by leaving it bare and user-unfriendly. Come on. Credit them for at least some intelligence - at least a bit more than certain posts have shown.
Just imagine destroying a world class research center because of a measly (in governemt terms) price-tag.
Hey, why not? It's the same outfit that already managed to spend $10 million+ to not buy badly-needed EH-101 rescue choppers, leaving us with Sea Kings that are the MIRs of choppers; good in their day, now flying death traps.
Sometimes I wonder just what the heck all of those dorfs in Ottawa are doing all day.
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Are regionless and CSS-less DVDs possible with the current format?
Yep. I believe some anime DVDs are regionless, and 2600 plans to release Freedom Downtime on a regionless, probably CSS-less DVD.
Hrm...would the Themes that came with MS Plus 95 count? I recall getting this CD, along with the Windows 95 upgrade, back on December 25, 1995. Spent a while after that digging up new themes from across the 'net. What can I say, I was a relative newbie to everything digital at the time.
When was the Windowblinds project started?
For that matter, how long have KDE and GNOME been around? Could GTK apps be themed before GNOME, or is that just a result of the GNOME project? How about Enlightenment, or other window managers?
The filing date on the patent is May 8, 1998, so anything before that is fair game for prior art, I think. Emphasis on the "I think;" patent law is such a quagmire to outsiders like me, I'm never quite sure what's legit and what isn'
Just so I'm clear for future discussions on this subject...
What does the DVD CCA claim protection for the CSS algorithm under? Is it copyrighted, patented, or considered a trade secret? Do they even claim any protection? They try to force player manufacturers to pay a license fee to use the algorithm in their hardware or software. I notice that the copyright infringement charges laid against Jon Johansen didn't stick, because he apparently didn't violate anyone's copyright. I don't recall anyone ever digging out a patent number for the algorithm. That leaves trade secret, and unless the algorithm was leaked by someone under NDA, the implementation MoRE and/or Derek Fawcus developed is nice and legal. As the story goes, some keys were found in the open in Xing's DVD software player, from which the entire algorithm was determined...so unless that's a complete fabrication, and someone under NDA did something they shouldn't have, I really don't see where the CCA is coming from.
Oh, that DMCA thingy, section 1201(a)(1)...yeah. "Circumvention of an access control." Not "copy control", because you can still copy DVDs even with CSS enabled. Interoperability apparently isn't a defense. I thought there was a provision for reverse-engineering something to let a piece of media be used on platforms the vendor doesn't support, but I recall Judge Kaplan throwing out that defense during the original case against 2600 and the others.
Hrm...I started with a question, I came up with half an answer...does anyone know the full answer? Is section 1201(a)(1) the only club the CCA can use against DeCSS holders and users?
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MPAA: Motion Picture Association of America, the organization up in arms over the fact that someone implemented the CSS decryption algorithm without their permission.
RIAA: Recording Industry Association of America, the organization up in arms over Napster, some bootleg and live traders, and a few million cheapskates:)
Divx: A failed pay-per-view DVD format pushed by Circuit City and Thomson Electronics. Lasted just over a year before it was killed due to the overwhelming popularity of vanilla DVD.
DivX;-): MPEG-4-based movie codec, supposedly developed from a hacked Microsoft MPEG-4 implementation; the video equivalent to MP3.
Copyright law: body of law dealing with creators' control over works they've created, and how such works may be distributed.
Patent law: body of law dealing with exclusive rights to inventions.
Feel free to correct me on any of these if I've also blown it.
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With each DeCSS shirt, Copyleft also provides a printout copy of the entire css-auth/DeCSS code. If hardcopy is the limiting factor between "speech" and "not speech", then I'd just love to see the MPAA try to get a flyer with the code banned.
The css-auth song was removed from MP3.com as "objectionable" material. I suspect there's a lot of material on MP3.com that depicts violent or misogynistic acts, or contains various forms of hate speech. I bet that material never gets touched.
In fact, the code is now public record; the MPAA's lawyers entered the code into evidence, and forgot to have that exhibit locked away from the public!
If we're playing the "intent" game, then posting the code with the intent of allowing others to download it and rip DVDs can be blocked. Posting the code with the intent to protest the MPAAs actions can easily be considered speech; rather like abortion protestors busting out the pictures of aborted fetuses at clinic rallies (then decrying violent images on TV, but that's another issue, and if you think I'm getting into that one right now, you're nuts).
What if I post the code on an HTML page, not in a tar.gz or.zip archive? The code is public record, as well as a form of protest; can it still be blocked? Especially if the page also explains why the code is being posted?
Once again: MPAA lawyers, you don't like it, come get me. I have a lot of time, and the will to defend my right to protest, and to view my legally-purchased movies on a platform of my choice.
They're called "taxes," and the cut that Senators and Representatives get of those taxes is what the employer - the people of the US - pays to their elected employees. Any other money or gift given to those employees to influence a decision is bribery, pure and simple.
Would a corporate employer tolerate their employees taking money to perform actions detrimental to the employer's well-being? Then why do the public employers tolerate it? Campaign finance reform will probably never be passed by the people that live off graft and bribery; perhaps a rather loud uprising might finally force Congress to do the Right Thing?
So suppose I'm coding something, and I don't like some clause of GPL 3.0. Some linking clause or another. Can't I just say I'd like to use GPL 2.x? or LGPL? Or any licences I darn well please?
Yes, yes you can. From section 9 of the GPL 2.0:
9. The Free Software Foundation may publish revised and/or new versions of the General Public License from time to time. Such new versions will
be similar in spirit to the present version, but may differ in detail to address new problems or concerns.
Each version is given a distinguishing version number. If the Program specifies a version number of this License which applies to it and "any
later version", you have the option of following the terms and conditions either of that version or of any later version published by the Free
Software Foundation. If the Program does not specify a version number of this License, you may choose any version ever published by the Free Software Foundation.
The Linux kernel currently comes with the following in the COPYING file:
Also note that the only valid version of the GPL as far as the kernel is concerned is _this_ license (ie v2), unless explicitly otherwise
stated.
So, yes Virginia, there is freedom of choice in GPL-land.
I also guess...that it will never hit ground, and that Russia will somehow manage to bounce it off the atmosphere back into space.
Don't ask me how; it can't be that hard to slow something down enough to crash it...now, controlling the crash, that's a bitch.
It would be just their luck that the Progress would go haywire, spin the station around a bit, end up pushing it forward instead of down, speed it up enough to skim off the atmosphere, and suddenly we have our first habitable craft heading off into deep space...never mind that it remains unmanned, or that you couldn't get me into that thing, or that I doubt the Progress has enough fuel or power to speed up Mir enough, but with the luck Russia's had lately...
Using a 0.8 nightly to post this; I was doing a mock pitch today, so I haven't had much chance to concentrate on my usual geeky pursuits until now. So I'm not sure if there's been a regression in the past couple days or so, but as of the 2001021403 build, the text widget works fine under Linux.
Changing the skin kills the menus (File and Edit works, everything after View doesn't).
Bug 67574? Yeah, I know. I was the first reporter. It's a regression, and just hit "mostfreq" status - that is, a lot of people are noticing it, it needs to be fixed.
I'm rather surprised 0.8 was released so quickly; the menu bug was marked "critical for mozilla 0.8".
"It'll get better soon, honest". It is better now, to be sure. It hasn't crashed in the last 8 minutes or so its been running on this machine.
Good to hear; I don't think I've had a crash in several days, and I abuse this poor thing. I don't use it for e-mail, but I haven't hit any consistent crashers since the popup-window-closing crasher was fixed two months back.
Guns do kill people, tell yourself it's not true all you like but you'll always know you're just making excuses for why you own a gun. I bet you think it's 'ideal for home defense' don't you?
Actually, no. I don't own a gun, never plan to, don't like the idea of having a tool intended solely to maim, threaten and kill in my home. I don't feel like tempting fate.
The problem with most Americans is they're not dead yet...
Well, I'm not American, so I guess I get to live in your world....right?
1. It's too bad we live in a society where it just isn't safe to play with toy guns outside.
For some reason, this statement makes me think of the scene from Terminator 2 where two little boys are fighting over who "killed" the other, while John Connor and Ahhnold look on. John: "We're not going to make it, are we?"
On the other hand, you're probably lucky it was a cop with a trained hand that came by, and not some drugged-out gangbanger looking for an excuse to practice his "mean" look.
Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people. And so do people with knives, people with bombs...cripes, I should quit before I decide to hide under the bed.
I've noticed the iMac/eMachines example being hauled out a couple of times to defend Apple in their witch hunt against OSX-like themes.
However, eMachines was a product clearly trying to divert potential iMac purchasers to their eerily-similar product. In short, they used the look, then tried to convince people it was their own look. This is clearly wrong.
Now we come to theme designers. If there is a product involved, it has already been purchased, and certainly not with the OS X look. The OS X skins are free, downloadable, and they all acknowledge Apple's creation of the OS X look, either through the word "Aqua", "OS X", and most (if not all) acknowledge that their themes are adaptions of Apple's Aqua GUI interface in the accompanying readmes. The theme creators are certainly not trying to deceive anyone into thinking they created and/or own the Aqua look. The themes are being created for people who have already downloaded or purchased a themeable GUI, and wish to emulate the Aqua GUI look without having to purchase the necessary hardware and underlying OS. I have little reason to believe Apple will create their own Aqua skins for GNOME, KDE, XMMS, WindowBlinds, etc.
In effect, Apple is trying to leverage their hardware and software sales by defending the UI in any way possible, saying "if you want to have a GUI with anything similar to our look, you also have to buy our hardware and software."
Stardock didn't create the Aqua-like look; a user created it using Stardock's tools, and the company is providing a way for the creator to distribute that theme. Apple has never gone after the individual theme creators, as far as I know; only the entities that allow those themes to be distributed through their websites.
I'm not saying whether this is morally or legally correct; I'm certainly not knowledgeable or wise enough to go that far. However, the whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Theme creators aren't trying to pass off their copies as the real thing; they freely acknowledge that someone else created the Aqua look. Apple can try to claim copyright protection on the entire thing, but that might have to include the placement of widgets and icons - "trade dress" can be a tricky thing, and I'd love to see them try to take out the blue-and-white diagonal-striped progress bar *glances at Mozilla progress bar in certain themes*, or bubbly buttons.
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"It is the first to have a horizontal alignment", implying the first Game Boy not the first handheld console.
Are you people just trying to find 'mistakes' where there are none?
Actually, the sentence was rather ambiguous regarding whether it referred to the first handheld, or first Game Boy. Details matter in a world where marketing relies on word games.
First Game Boy to have a horizontal alignment, yes.
First handheld period, hell no. Sega Game Gear had both horizontal alignment and a color screen years ago.
This will be a great opportunity for someone to examine their code looking for GPL'ed code.
Kernel hackers Jeff Merkey and Andre Hederick might be able to tell you where to start looking.
Hand write your representatives and inform them of your digust with this law.
This may be more effective with new reps than incumbents, as the DMCA was unanimously passed. New reps might not have been subject to MPAA lobbying efforts yet. Some incumbents might (hell, probably did) pass the law without really understanding what it does; there was a letter in 2600 a couple issues back about a guy who runs into a southern Senator and explains to him why the DMCA is a bad thing.
These things are what allow projects like xine and LiViD to exist with a relative lack of legal molestation.
xine doesn't include CSS support by default. You can get a version of Xine with libcss support at the Xine resource page (along with a DXR3-enabled version, if you have that card). OMS links to libcss as well. So neither program actually includes it, but they link to it. As well, LiVid developer Matt Pavlovich was charged under the DMCA in California court for distributing DeCSS - strange, since he isn't a California citizen, and he was really (as far as I can tell) distributing css-auth, the non-ripper version of the CSS decryption scheme.
The DMCA itself is strictly an AMERICAN law and has no jurisdiction * anywhere * else in the world.
What worries me is that DMCA-like laws may be quietly pushed into force in other nations, like my own, which tends to bend over for any large US entity that tries to lean on it. In Canada, it would be even worse; we have no system of "fair use" up here, only a very strictly defined system known as "fair dealing", which basically says the copyright holder can set whatever limits they want on use of their work, and anything else in infringement. Just posessing DeCSS/css-auth could be very quickly made illegal up here.
Konqueror has nice, fast rendering
Got it.
support for Netscape plugins
Reportedly works.
https using OpenSSL
PSM does the job.
Javascript support with the ability to disable window.open
Got both; check the 0.8 release notes, what's new, last item.
fine-grained cookie management
Seems to have it.
To each their own, but I personally can't see any reason to use Mozilla over Konqueror.
How about "I don't use KDE2" or "I don't have it installed"? Let's not forget "I don't run Linux/BSD, and I'd rather not use IE." Keep in mind, Mozilla's goal has been to be truly cross-OS, cross-architecture, while being a fully-fledged web browser (and development platform). I would think that would take longer than just writing a working browser for one or two OSes on one desktop. I've run both; Moz is almost as fast as Konq, and about the same size when you take into account the fact that Konqueror uses some kdeinit functions (try running it under GNOME to see what I mean).
Konqueror's a great browser, but it's developers haven't had to deal with the same challenges the Mozilla crew has. You can't fairly compare the two unless that's taken into account.
In any event, I uninstalled KDE2 long ago, so Mozilla it is...and I'm very happy with tha
The page loaded fine, thanks. Using Mozilla 0.8. Nice try, though.
Once in a while, I'll boot into Windows to watch my legally-purchased DVDs on my legally-purchased DVD-ROM drive (unless Xine works, in which case...anyway...). I've used Mozilla 0.8 on Win95 OSR2, and Windows NT 4.0 sp-something. Runs like a dream. On the three platforms I've had a chance to run Mozilla 0.8 on, I have had one crash since release.
One.
Considering that Moz isn't using many native graphical hooks on any platform to draw widgets, but is drawing its own instead, I'd say it runs pretty good. Hell, I've found it's as fast as IE on the Win32 platforms I've used it on.
Re-read that. Mozilla 0.8 is as fast as IE on Win32. In fact, it's been as fast since Mozilla 0.6. I now try to avoid IE whenever possible.
What, you think HP would actually just toss Debian on there and let the users flail away with a command prompt on a tiny screen and a stylus? You don't think HP's going to go out and either find some apps that will work well on the Journada, or write their own?
I realize it seems funny to think of geeks trying to type at command prompts on their geeky handhelds, but you can bet the Windows CE license fee HP won't tank the handheld by leaving it bare and user-unfriendly. Come on. Credit them for at least some intelligence - at least a bit more than certain posts have shown.
Just imagine destroying a world class research center because of a measly (in governemt terms) price-tag.
Hey, why not? It's the same outfit that already managed to spend $10 million+ to not buy badly-needed EH-101 rescue choppers, leaving us with Sea Kings that are the MIRs of choppers; good in their day, now flying death traps.
Sometimes I wonder just what the heck all of those dorfs in Ottawa are doing all day.
Are regionless and CSS-less DVDs possible with the current format?
Yep. I believe some anime DVDs are regionless, and 2600 plans to release Freedom Downtime on a regionless, probably CSS-less DVD.
Hrm...would the Themes that came with MS Plus 95 count? I recall getting this CD, along with the Windows 95 upgrade, back on December 25, 1995. Spent a while after that digging up new themes from across the 'net. What can I say, I was a relative newbie to everything digital at the time.
When was the Windowblinds project started?
For that matter, how long have KDE and GNOME been around? Could GTK apps be themed before GNOME, or is that just a result of the GNOME project? How about Enlightenment, or other window managers?
The filing date on the patent is May 8, 1998, so anything before that is fair game for prior art, I think. Emphasis on the "I think;" patent law is such a quagmire to outsiders like me, I'm never quite sure what's legit and what isn'
Just so I'm clear for future discussions on this subject...
What does the DVD CCA claim protection for the CSS algorithm under? Is it copyrighted, patented, or considered a trade secret? Do they even claim any protection? They try to force player manufacturers to pay a license fee to use the algorithm in their hardware or software. I notice that the copyright infringement charges laid against Jon Johansen didn't stick, because he apparently didn't violate anyone's copyright. I don't recall anyone ever digging out a patent number for the algorithm. That leaves trade secret, and unless the algorithm was leaked by someone under NDA, the implementation MoRE and/or Derek Fawcus developed is nice and legal. As the story goes, some keys were found in the open in Xing's DVD software player, from which the entire algorithm was determined...so unless that's a complete fabrication, and someone under NDA did something they shouldn't have, I really don't see where the CCA is coming from.
Oh, that DMCA thingy, section 1201(a)(1)...yeah. "Circumvention of an access control." Not "copy control", because you can still copy DVDs even with CSS enabled. Interoperability apparently isn't a defense. I thought there was a provision for reverse-engineering something to let a piece of media be used on platforms the vendor doesn't support, but I recall Judge Kaplan throwing out that defense during the original case against 2600 and the others.
Hrm...I started with a question, I came up with half an answer...does anyone know the full answer? Is section 1201(a)(1) the only club the CCA can use against DeCSS holders and users?
MPAA: Motion Picture Association of America, the organization up in arms over the fact that someone implemented the CSS decryption algorithm without their permission.
;-): MPEG-4-based movie codec, supposedly developed from a hacked Microsoft MPEG-4 implementation; the video equivalent to MP3.
RIAA: Recording Industry Association of America, the organization up in arms over Napster, some bootleg and live traders, and a few million cheapskates:)
Divx: A failed pay-per-view DVD format pushed by Circuit City and Thomson Electronics. Lasted just over a year before it was killed due to the overwhelming popularity of vanilla DVD.
DivX
Copyright law: body of law dealing with creators' control over works they've created, and how such works may be distributed.
Patent law: body of law dealing with exclusive rights to inventions.
Feel free to correct me on any of these if I've also blown it.
Download, mirror, maybe even use to watch movies on Linux and BSD.
With each DeCSS shirt, Copyleft also provides a printout copy of the entire css-auth/DeCSS code. If hardcopy is the limiting factor between "speech" and "not speech", then I'd just love to see the MPAA try to get a flyer with the code banned.
.zip archive? The code is public record, as well as a form of protest; can it still be blocked? Especially if the page also explains why the code is being posted?
The css-auth song was removed from MP3.com as "objectionable" material. I suspect there's a lot of material on MP3.com that depicts violent or misogynistic acts, or contains various forms of hate speech. I bet that material never gets touched.
In fact, the code is now public record; the MPAA's lawyers entered the code into evidence, and forgot to have that exhibit locked away from the public!
If we're playing the "intent" game, then posting the code with the intent of allowing others to download it and rip DVDs can be blocked. Posting the code with the intent to protest the MPAAs actions can easily be considered speech; rather like abortion protestors busting out the pictures of aborted fetuses at clinic rallies (then decrying violent images on TV, but that's another issue, and if you think I'm getting into that one right now, you're nuts).
What if I post the code on an HTML page, not in a tar.gz or
Once again: MPAA lawyers, you don't like it, come get me . I have a lot of time, and the will to defend my right to protest, and to view my legally-purchased movies on a platform of my choice.
In that case, I'm not really saying this to you.
They're called "taxes," and the cut that Senators and Representatives get of those taxes is what the employer - the people of the US - pays to their elected employees. Any other money or gift given to those employees to influence a decision is bribery, pure and simple.
Would a corporate employer tolerate their employees taking money to perform actions detrimental to the employer's well-being? Then why do the public employers tolerate it? Campaign finance reform will probably never be passed by the people that live off graft and bribery; perhaps a rather loud uprising might finally force Congress to do the Right Thing?
*rant mode off*
So suppose I'm coding something, and I don't like some clause of GPL 3.0. Some linking clause or another. Can't I just say I'd like to use GPL 2.x? or LGPL? Or any licences I darn well please?
Yes, yes you can. From section 9 of the GPL 2.0:
9. The Free Software Foundation may publish revised and/or new versions of the General Public License from time to time. Such new versions will
be similar in spirit to the present version, but may differ in detail to address new problems or concerns.
Each version is given a distinguishing version number. If the Program specifies a version number of this License which applies to it and "any
later version", you have the option of following the terms and conditions either of that version or of any later version published by the Free
Software Foundation. If the Program does not specify a version number of this License, you may choose any version ever published by the Free Software Foundation.
The Linux kernel currently comes with the following in the COPYING file:
Also note that the only valid version of the GPL as far as the kernel is concerned is _this_ license (ie v2), unless explicitly otherwise
stated.
So, yes Virginia, there is freedom of choice in GPL-land.
My guess for atmospheric contact is the subject.
I also guess...that it will never hit ground, and that Russia will somehow manage to bounce it off the atmosphere back into space.
Don't ask me how; it can't be that hard to slow something down enough to crash it...now, controlling the crash, that's a bitch.
It would be just their luck that the Progress would go haywire, spin the station around a bit, end up pushing it forward instead of down, speed it up enough to skim off the atmosphere, and suddenly we have our first habitable craft heading off into deep space...never mind that it remains unmanned, or that you couldn't get me into that thing, or that I doubt the Progress has enough fuel or power to speed up Mir enough, but with the luck Russia's had lately...
The text entry widget is broken.
Using a 0.8 nightly to post this; I was doing a mock pitch today, so I haven't had much chance to concentrate on my usual geeky pursuits until now. So I'm not sure if there's been a regression in the past couple days or so, but as of the 2001021403 build, the text widget works fine under Linux.
Changing the skin kills the menus (File and Edit works, everything after View doesn't).
Bug 67574? Yeah, I know. I was the first reporter. It's a regression, and just hit "mostfreq" status - that is, a lot of people are noticing it, it needs to be fixed.
I'm rather surprised 0.8 was released so quickly; the menu bug was marked "critical for mozilla 0.8".
"It'll get better soon, honest". It is better now, to be sure. It hasn't crashed in the last 8 minutes or so its been running on this machine.
Good to hear; I don't think I've had a crash in several days, and I abuse this poor thing. I don't use it for e-mail, but I haven't hit any consistent crashers since the popup-window-closing crasher was fixed two months back.
I shouldn't feed the trolls...but...
Guns do kill people, tell yourself it's not true all you like but you'll always know you're just making excuses for why you own a gun. I bet you think it's 'ideal for home defense' don't you?
Actually, no. I don't own a gun, never plan to, don't like the idea of having a tool intended solely to maim, threaten and kill in my home. I don't feel like tempting fate.
The problem with most Americans is they're not dead yet...
Well, I'm not American, so I guess I get to live in your world....right?
1. It's too bad we live in a society where it just isn't safe to play with toy guns outside.
For some reason, this statement makes me think of the scene from Terminator 2 where two little boys are fighting over who "killed" the other, while John Connor and Ahhnold look on. John: "We're not going to make it, are we?"
On the other hand, you're probably lucky it was a cop with a trained hand that came by, and not some drugged-out gangbanger looking for an excuse to practice his "mean" look.
Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people. And so do people with knives, people with bombs...cripes, I should quit before I decide to hide under the bed.
I've noticed the iMac/eMachines example being hauled out a couple of times to defend Apple in their witch hunt against OSX-like themes.
However, eMachines was a product clearly trying to divert potential iMac purchasers to their eerily-similar product. In short, they used the look, then tried to convince people it was their own look. This is clearly wrong.
Now we come to theme designers. If there is a product involved, it has already been purchased, and certainly not with the OS X look. The OS X skins are free, downloadable, and they all acknowledge Apple's creation of the OS X look, either through the word "Aqua", "OS X", and most (if not all) acknowledge that their themes are adaptions of Apple's Aqua GUI interface in the accompanying readmes. The theme creators are certainly not trying to deceive anyone into thinking they created and/or own the Aqua look. The themes are being created for people who have already downloaded or purchased a themeable GUI, and wish to emulate the Aqua GUI look without having to purchase the necessary hardware and underlying OS. I have little reason to believe Apple will create their own Aqua skins for GNOME, KDE, XMMS, WindowBlinds, etc.
In effect, Apple is trying to leverage their hardware and software sales by defending the UI in any way possible, saying "if you want to have a GUI with anything similar to our look, you also have to buy our hardware and software."
Stardock didn't create the Aqua-like look; a user created it using Stardock's tools, and the company is providing a way for the creator to distribute that theme. Apple has never gone after the individual theme creators, as far as I know; only the entities that allow those themes to be distributed through their websites.
I'm not saying whether this is morally or legally correct; I'm certainly not knowledgeable or wise enough to go that far. However, the whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Theme creators aren't trying to pass off their copies as the real thing; they freely acknowledge that someone else created the Aqua look. Apple can try to claim copyright protection on the entire thing, but that might have to include the placement of widgets and icons - "trade dress" can be a tricky thing, and I'd love to see them try to take out the blue-and-white diagonal-striped progress bar *glances at Mozilla progress bar in certain themes*, or bubbly buttons.
Can you say "quagmire"? I knew you could!