I've seen firsthand the enemy your talking about, and the great majority of them that *I* came into contact with could not even read their own language, let alone operate sophisticated computer systems. While I'm sure there are upper echelons that DO leverage technology in a way that would justify tools such as these, I doubt they are rocking Samsung smart TVs, ordering takeout on the latest iphone, or operating stable and reliably connected windows based personal computers.
Your argument has been employed in the defense of terrible weapons and processes for centuries. Sometimes, it's correct as much as it's ugly. Other times, it's just mouth frothing for more powers/power/abilities, and justification for the boot that grinds.
The ability to (maybe) compromise the enemy commanders smartphone via the mobileapps he's using, or own his smart TV for surveillance purposes is next to useless against the real high value targets. On the flip side, these tools are incredibly effective for illegal use against our own people, our allies, and other western cultures. Add the risk of catastrophic damage to systems throughout the world being incredibly high when these tools inevitably leak to the public and the scale starts to tip to the side of WTF-land.
If these tools had been developed on Mars, and stored on the moon, they would still be used against innocents, and leaked to the public eventually.
Off the couch boy. It aint rainin, go play in traffic. Oh and if I catch you on that roof again I'm gonna harvest parts outta yer goddamn xbox, NOW GIT BEFORE I PUT YOU TO WORK!
Autocad, Solidworks, Maya, 3DSMax, Mastercam, Veracut, Esprit....The list goes on and on. I know there are alternatives for some, and linux compatibility for others, but the cost of user re-training is prohibitively expensive. Many manufacturing companies are barred from cloud computing due to compliance issues, so SAS is mostly a no-go as well. When your engineers are forced to relearn and build new workflows, the risk of costly mishaps spikes on top of everything else.
People are trained to resist anything not Microsoft due to public education focusing exclusively on MS products..(Gen X, not sure how things are today) I've rolled out open-source alternatives to MS Office on a corporate fleet with an eye for closing common attack vectors, and growing IT budgets, but the cost of retraining high level users who are actively resisting the change is very very high.
When your small business needs to invest in retraining an already expensive hourly employee, Joan in accounting can sink the whole operation with a single unkind word.
Being a parent, I find myself correcting this kind of garbage pretty frequently. Emotional response indeed. You are absolutely correct.
In the end, there will be those with expensive degrees and no expectation of formality who cannot find employment (wtf y u no hire me bro) and those who have been made aware of the expectation of professionalism (Dear Sir, thank you for this opportunity, I am looking forward to working with you.)
Growing up in the PNW, I was blown away when I spent a year in Louisiana. Everybody puts Mr. in front of even first names. If the name is unknown, it's Sir. I was really surprised at first. In my travels, I've found that the closer to the coast you get, the more words are abbreviated and dropped. Once you can see the ocean it becomes sms shorthand speak
"lol wut dood? u liek propr english? ROFL y u salty bro?"
Nobody's explained to you that you talk up to your superiors with honorifics and formalized speech. Nobody's explained this because it's a history lesson. This is also why we didn't teach you how to make tithes to your Earldom.
liek yeah bro u know it dis is the way we talk at each other now proper eglish is ancient history dude btw why u fail me? i did the homeworkz and shit... i dont get it plz help i cant fail my dad will kill me lol okbye c u monday
John Oliver MUST be charged as the DDOS mastermind! Obviously, Last Week Tonight was the command and control. We cannot allow our democracy to be undermined by the dullard and uninformed population! LOCK HIM UP!
I have personally fielded this question from my team. On that occasion, I reminded them that when I say, "great job", I mean it, and when I say, "You missed this one, lets try $colleague's idea this time." I am not just being a persnickety asshole boss, I am providing feedback, and directing a project.
(I think) At least half the problem today is that the younger generation no longer hears the real praise from their superiors for what it is, because they've spent their lives hearing these things for simply meeting the standard. I don't pass out high fives at the water cooler for showing up to work on time, but I do pass-out pitchers of beer and pizza when we complete a project within spec and on-time.
When you're late on your side of the hardware, and the whole team is off grumbling between themselves while doing make-work for other departments, I'm going to point out a few things you may want to do differently next time. I'm going to remind you that this is not the way we roll around here. And I'm going to ask you if you think somebody else would have been a better fit for your responsibilities. Again this is not me being a dick boss, it's feedback, and guidance.
If I see a problem with the way things are being done, the way you carry yourself, or the way resources are being applied, it's my job to fix it. Part of that job is making those responsible aware of the problem, as well as solicit solutions from them and avoid these problems on future projects. On Thursday, when I *ask* you to change the shirt you've been wearing since Monday, I am not *coming down on you*, or *being a dick boss*, but providing clear direction. If you're so dense you have to ask me why, (this has happened) I'm going to tell you the odor is distracting, and the catchup stain on the collar is annoying as hell. This is the feedback that is remembered. THIS is what he will tell his spouse tonight over dinner, and this is what he is going to remember when review time comes around.
Unfortunately, "Team, we did it again, $client loves our work, and word is they are already bidding our next project. Wonderful work guys, keep this shit up. Anybody wanna join me after work this Friday at $pizzajoint? My treat...." Is considered standard for every project. It aint, It's positive feedback, as well as opportunity to debrief, and decompress, as well as for one on one time with me, over a beer, as friends and colleagues; instead of boss and subordinate.
My boss is counting on me to both guide the teams project to completion, and keep my guys happy. I try to do both. If I don't, he's gonna ask me why not, and provide a few suggestions himself (misguided as they may be) That does not mean I'm on the hook to present a gold medal for meeting the standard, high school was a long time ago.
How many times must these devices betray you before you just go back to remembering things like you used to? Every week with some new mobile phone disaster is sure getting old.
MY whole family ditched our smartphones over 2 years ago. A mobile phone IS required for select things, over the course of maybe a week each... maybe twice a year. I buy a dumb burner phone with $3.00 worth of prepaid sim card when I MUST have one, I share the number with only the contacts that must have it, and store nothing in the address book. As soon as that's over it goes in the trash. I can summon emergency services online from any internet connection.
It's just not worth it, it's to invasive, and it's always listening. It costs way to much, It's designed from the damn ground up to sell you shit you don't need, it's terribly insecure, and worst of all, it is designed to be replaced within.. what... 2 years for another $1000? GTFO.
My personal data, contacts, whereabouts, shopping habits, political affiliation, favorite color, sexual preference, and whatever else they've begun to collect over the past few years are worth so much more to me (and them) than access to some shitty app-store full info stealing novelties and shitty flash games. My privacy and personal data trumps the convenience that comes with carrying somebody else's computer in my pocket. What a fucking terrible deal, and we pay for the pleasure.
My employer don't like it, I told them I'd carry a phone if they foot the bill. Off the clock means off the clock, and on call means on call.
People look at me funny, (or just don't believe me) when I say I don't have a phone number. I look at them funny when they fall over the curb looking for fucking pokemon.
Everybody around me is so in love with the screen that all I need to do is muse out loud, "I wonder that the answer to this question is?" and everybody falls all over themselves racing to google it, to justify the $1000 shitty gaming platform in their pockets, and show off expensive status symbol. Boy. The guy who answers first sure is a cool cat.
It's pretty disturbing after a while, once you break away from the thing yourself, seeing the way mobile phones consume the people around you. Waiting rooms absolutely disgust me now, and long lines for anything are 10x more terrible than they used to be.
There was a time, not that long ago, when people actually put in the effort to learn things.
I'm rambling now. Just do yourself a favor, ditch the smart-phone, it's making you dumber.
At least we are not just taking it. This gets people talking, and that's a start. Better late than never. Maybe this will open the floodgates. Fingers crossed.
On this logic, So-And-So can talk loudly about changing a law, and the courts will treat said law as toxic and not even hear a challenge, as said law is "on its way out" Seems legit.
1. To hell with income tax! 2. Raise income tax 50%. 3. Laugh as courts refuse to hear challenges to my new tax as its on its way out anyway.... 4. Profit.... 5. Repeat.
Universal Embedded DRM would kill the social networks dead overnight. Just watch the titans fight it out. If the social networks lose, you can always spin up your own site with no DRM, standardized or not. Just be prepared to pay the new ISP toll.
History has proven over and over DRM is not a long term solution to anything. I'm kinda looking forward to the cat-mouse-mouse games between the rights-holders, social networks, and users. Maybe I'll make a few bucks "modding" browsers.
I swear, every couple of years, some new oppressive rights management shit sneaks onto the net, lives a few months, and dies. Unbroken DRM is like a target that only gets bigger with time.
Weird, I can't get webcrawler.com to load. I better disconnect and redial my ISP, but I'm not sure if my AOL is having problems today, or if its just those damn kids that keep picking up the phone!
FACEBOOK will tolerate no competition when it comes to influencing public opinion! We simple cannot allow this despicable ungood news-speak and thought-crime on our platform! Our platform is only for doubleplusgood news-speak. It's the deplorables of course! Remember to report any bad-think you come across! We have provided good-think links and a handy report button to ease your patriotic duty! We must all work together to this end my friends, for Facebook has always been at war with Snapchat, and we must always double-think of the children!
If I die, I have to go before it, and it will ask me, "What is the riddle of emulation?" If I don't know it, it will cast me out of emulation-station and laugh at me. That's Retro-pi, strong in it's 3d printed case!
How is the TV-thing making the google-thing read you the wiki-thing translating to "malware-laden advertising infesting webpages" ?
next question being, how is this not "unauthorized use of a computer system"?
And final question is... How long before the wiki-thing starts telling the google-thing to start talking about the sexy-thing instead of the burger-thing?
Not a single responsible party thought to themselves.... "Gee... It sure would be nice if we could broadcast messages long distances over the air using already in place infrastructure" "I sure wish we had a fault tolerant communications network already in place nationwide for just such emergencies" "Golly, those young warfighters we keep training must be using magic to communicate with each other in all those hostile 3rd world countries we keep sending them to"
Nope, another 6.5 Billion goin out!
Hungry children in school? -No free lunch for students..... cant afford it. Rising sea-levels? -No climate change research...cant afford it.
Seriously,. wtf is really going here? There has GOT to be more to this. It's like the whole country is being punked.
Seriously. Stop watching TV. Stop reading biased news (paper and on the internet) Stop gobbling up packaged entertainment news. Start watching the actual leader's speech, and form your own conclusions instead of condensed media spin. When the eyeballs dry up on the talking heads, things will change. We've been conditioned over the span of nearly 70 years to accept 8 hours of job creating value for others, followed by 3-5 hours of family screen consumption/repeat. We've allowed this to color our cultural world view so deeply that we now bicker between each other nothings like red vs blue, boys vs girls, and white vs black, every single time something important happens (or is about to happen). Its our news, our shows, our music, its all over our public gathering places, its in our schools, and our jobs.. its in our vehicles and in our communications. I can't barley pump gas without some clown on a screen trying to get me fired up over the latest non-issue, or trying to enrage/outrage me against some cause that aint even mine.
It's evident just reading through this discussion, and nearly every discussion on/. and everywhere else online since the last American election. The spin machine was cranked up to 11 for that shit-show, and it never got turned back down. Fake news is just the next thing to keep you and me bickering with each other instead of paying attention to things like the rise of our inevitable medical costs, the evaporation of our personal freedoms, and the buying and selling of our elected leaders by the very ones peddling the broken media and broken healthcare in the first place.
There is now way fake news is an accident. Its so god-damned effective its fucking genius.
Which freedoms have you lost? Be specific. Have you had any of your Constitutional rights violated? Be specific.
And what's wrong with storing passport and driver license photos?
I know your posting as AC, and not expecting an answer, but these are VERY VALID QUESTIONS and I don't think you deserved to be modded down....
I don't know about you, but over the last decade or so, I personally feel that my right to be secure in my person is not exactly strong. Lets not even get started on my papers and effects. Maybe you haven't been paying attention?
Or maybe since they are using my face, without my consent, it maybe doesn't count as bearing witness against myself?
I know that's not as specific as you had asked, but I think its best to leave that to the student. Call it a story problem. Which specific freedoms am I talking about?
I feel my face is a pretty big part of my person. I feel like its mine. That's what we are discussing here. The storage and use of yours and mine faces (not likenesses) against our consent, for use in automated law enforcement tools. Let that sink in for a moment. Say it out loud.
Automated. Law. Enforcement.
When you find yourself implicated in a rape or murder simply because your ID card photo from 15 years ago shares some of the features of the real villain, and the closed-source-super-classified-no-oversight-working-just-fine-thankyou-FBI-computer-system put you on the wrong side of 15%, remember how worth it the convenience of not having to stand in line for hours at the DMV was.
It could be, automating our law enforcement is best answer to modern law enforcement problems (selective enforcement, racial profiling, corruption, etc.) but only if its rolled out 100% everywhere at the same time, and simply being accused of a capital crime no longer completely ruins your life - As it does today in modern America. 15% false positives seem like pretty good betting odds, right up until you start to think about whats at stake. Maybe if we can automate our legal defenses as well it will balance out, but criminal defense is a long shot from fighting traffic tickets.
This is real. Events over the past 5 years have put body cams on the front-line of enforcement. Automation is the next logical step. We NEED to talk about this. We need to talk LOUDLY, in public, to each other, to our elected officials, to our children, and to our law enforcers. We need to set some rules, enforce some old ones, and make sure everybody sees this coming, before its to late.
Keep asking valid questions AC, and it's OK to ask them behind that anonymous mask.... for now.
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I'm off to the feelies. I'm so glad I'm an Alpha.
I've seen firsthand the enemy your talking about, and the great majority of them that *I* came into contact with could not even read their own language, let alone operate sophisticated computer systems. While I'm sure there are upper echelons that DO leverage technology in a way that would justify tools such as these, I doubt they are rocking Samsung smart TVs, ordering takeout on the latest iphone, or operating stable and reliably connected windows based personal computers.
Your argument has been employed in the defense of terrible weapons and processes for centuries. Sometimes, it's correct as much as it's ugly. Other times, it's just mouth frothing for more powers/power/abilities, and justification for the boot that grinds.
The ability to (maybe) compromise the enemy commanders smartphone via the mobileapps he's using, or own his smart TV for surveillance purposes is next to useless against the real high value targets. On the flip side, these tools are incredibly effective for illegal use against our own people, our allies, and other western cultures. Add the risk of catastrophic damage to systems throughout the world being incredibly high when these tools inevitably leak to the public and the scale starts to tip to the side of WTF-land.
If these tools had been developed on Mars, and stored on the moon, they would still be used against innocents, and leaked to the public eventually.
Sometimes the only way to win is not to play.
Off the couch boy. It aint rainin, go play in traffic. Oh and if I catch you on that roof again I'm gonna harvest parts outta yer goddamn xbox, NOW GIT BEFORE I PUT YOU TO WORK!
But dad, my K:D is finally evening out.....
THAT'S IT! GO MOW THE FUCKING LAWN!
Autocad, Solidworks, Maya, 3DSMax, Mastercam, Veracut, Esprit....The list goes on and on. I know there are alternatives for some, and linux compatibility for others, but the cost of user re-training is prohibitively expensive. Many manufacturing companies are barred from cloud computing due to compliance issues, so SAS is mostly a no-go as well. When your engineers are forced to relearn and build new workflows, the risk of costly mishaps spikes on top of everything else.
People are trained to resist anything not Microsoft due to public education focusing exclusively on MS products..(Gen X, not sure how things are today) I've rolled out open-source alternatives to MS Office on a corporate fleet with an eye for closing common attack vectors, and growing IT budgets, but the cost of retraining high level users who are actively resisting the change is very very high.
When your small business needs to invest in retraining an already expensive hourly employee, Joan in accounting can sink the whole operation with a single unkind word.
You are so right.
Being a parent, I find myself correcting this kind of garbage pretty frequently. Emotional response indeed. You are absolutely correct.
In the end, there will be those with expensive degrees and no expectation of formality who cannot find employment (wtf y u no hire me bro) and those who have been made aware of the expectation of professionalism (Dear Sir, thank you for this opportunity, I am looking forward to working with you.)
Growing up in the PNW, I was blown away when I spent a year in Louisiana. Everybody puts Mr. in front of even first names. If the name is unknown, it's Sir. I was really surprised at first. In my travels, I've found that the closer to the coast you get, the more words are abbreviated and dropped. Once you can see the ocean it becomes sms shorthand speak
"lol wut dood? u liek propr english? ROFL y u salty bro?"
Mass communication has its side effects.
Medieval studies. Been there, done that..... M'lord.
Nobody's explained to you that you talk up to your superiors with honorifics and formalized speech. Nobody's explained this because it's a history lesson. This is also why we didn't teach you how to make tithes to your Earldom.
liek yeah bro u know it dis is the way we talk at each other now proper eglish is ancient history dude btw why u fail me? i did the homeworkz and shit... i dont get it plz help i cant fail my dad will kill me lol okbye c u monday
John Oliver MUST be charged as the DDOS mastermind! Obviously, Last Week Tonight was the command and control. We cannot allow our democracy to be undermined by the dullard and uninformed population! LOCK HIM UP!
I have personally fielded this question from my team. On that occasion, I reminded them that when I say, "great job", I mean it, and when I say, "You missed this one, lets try $colleague's idea this time." I am not just being a persnickety asshole boss, I am providing feedback, and directing a project.
(I think) At least half the problem today is that the younger generation no longer hears the real praise from their superiors for what it is, because they've spent their lives hearing these things for simply meeting the standard. I don't pass out high fives at the water cooler for showing up to work on time, but I do pass-out pitchers of beer and pizza when we complete a project within spec and on-time.
When you're late on your side of the hardware, and the whole team is off grumbling between themselves while doing make-work for other departments, I'm going to point out a few things you may want to do differently next time. I'm going to remind you that this is not the way we roll around here. And I'm going to ask you if you think somebody else would have been a better fit for your responsibilities. Again this is not me being a dick boss, it's feedback, and guidance.
If I see a problem with the way things are being done, the way you carry yourself, or the way resources are being applied, it's my job to fix it. Part of that job is making those responsible aware of the problem, as well as solicit solutions from them and avoid these problems on future projects. On Thursday, when I *ask* you to change the shirt you've been wearing since Monday, I am not *coming down on you*, or *being a dick boss*, but providing clear direction. If you're so dense you have to ask me why, (this has happened) I'm going to tell you the odor is distracting, and the catchup stain on the collar is annoying as hell. This is the feedback that is remembered. THIS is what he will tell his spouse tonight over dinner, and this is what he is going to remember when review time comes around.
Unfortunately, "Team, we did it again, $client loves our work, and word is they are already bidding our next project. Wonderful work guys, keep this shit up. Anybody wanna join me after work this Friday at $pizzajoint? My treat...." Is considered standard for every project. It aint, It's positive feedback, as well as opportunity to debrief, and decompress, as well as for one on one time with me, over a beer, as friends and colleagues; instead of boss and subordinate.
My boss is counting on me to both guide the teams project to completion, and keep my guys happy. I try to do both. If I don't, he's gonna ask me why not, and provide a few suggestions himself (misguided as they may be) That does not mean I'm on the hook to present a gold medal for meeting the standard, high school was a long time ago.
How many times must these devices betray you before you just go back to remembering things like you used to? Every week with some new mobile phone disaster is sure getting old.
MY whole family ditched our smartphones over 2 years ago. A mobile phone IS required for select things, over the course of maybe a week each... maybe twice a year. I buy a dumb burner phone with $3.00 worth of prepaid sim card when I MUST have one, I share the number with only the contacts that must have it, and store nothing in the address book. As soon as that's over it goes in the trash. I can summon emergency services online from any internet connection.
It's just not worth it, it's to invasive, and it's always listening. It costs way to much, It's designed from the damn ground up to sell you shit you don't need, it's terribly insecure, and worst of all, it is designed to be replaced within.. what... 2 years for another $1000? GTFO.
My personal data, contacts, whereabouts, shopping habits, political affiliation, favorite color, sexual preference, and whatever else they've begun to collect over the past few years are worth so much more to me (and them) than access to some shitty app-store full info stealing novelties and shitty flash games. My privacy and personal data trumps the convenience that comes with carrying somebody else's computer in my pocket. What a fucking terrible deal, and we pay for the pleasure.
My employer don't like it, I told them I'd carry a phone if they foot the bill. Off the clock means off the clock, and on call means on call.
People look at me funny, (or just don't believe me) when I say I don't have a phone number. I look at them funny when they fall over the curb looking for fucking pokemon.
Everybody around me is so in love with the screen that all I need to do is muse out loud, "I wonder that the answer to this question is?" and everybody falls all over themselves racing to google it, to justify the $1000 shitty gaming platform in their pockets, and show off expensive status symbol. Boy. The guy who answers first sure is a cool cat.
It's pretty disturbing after a while, once you break away from the thing yourself, seeing the way mobile phones consume the people around you. Waiting rooms absolutely disgust me now, and long lines for anything are 10x more terrible than they used to be.
There was a time, not that long ago, when people actually put in the effort to learn things.
I'm rambling now. Just do yourself a favor, ditch the smart-phone, it's making you dumber.
At least we are not just taking it. This gets people talking, and that's a start. Better late than never. Maybe this will open the floodgates. Fingers crossed.
On this logic, So-And-So can talk loudly about changing a law, and the courts will treat said law as toxic and not even hear a challenge, as said law is "on its way out" Seems legit.
1. To hell with income tax!
2. Raise income tax 50%.
3. Laugh as courts refuse to hear challenges to my new tax as its on its way out anyway....
4. Profit....
5. Repeat.
Universal Embedded DRM would kill the social networks dead overnight. Just watch the titans fight it out. If the social networks lose, you can always spin up your own site with no DRM, standardized or not. Just be prepared to pay the new ISP toll.
History has proven over and over DRM is not a long term solution to anything. I'm kinda looking forward to the cat-mouse-mouse games between the rights-holders, social networks, and users. Maybe I'll make a few bucks "modding" browsers.
I swear, every couple of years, some new oppressive rights management shit sneaks onto the net, lives a few months, and dies. Unbroken DRM is like a target that only gets bigger with time.
Weird, I can't get webcrawler.com to load. I better disconnect and redial my ISP, but I'm not sure if my AOL is having problems today, or if its just those damn kids that keep picking up the phone!
FACEBOOK will tolerate no competition when it comes to influencing public opinion! We simple cannot allow this despicable ungood news-speak and thought-crime on our platform! Our platform is only for doubleplusgood news-speak. It's the deplorables of course! Remember to report any bad-think you come across! We have provided good-think links and a handy report button to ease your patriotic duty! We must all work together to this end my friends, for Facebook has always been at war with Snapchat, and we must always double-think of the children!
If I die, I have to go before it, and it will ask me, "What is the riddle of emulation?" If I don't know it, it will cast me out of emulation-station and laugh at me. That's Retro-pi, strong in it's 3d printed case!
How is the TV-thing making the google-thing read you the wiki-thing translating to "malware-laden advertising infesting webpages" ?
next question being, how is this not "unauthorized use of a computer system"?
And final question is... How long before the wiki-thing starts telling the google-thing to start talking about the sexy-thing instead of the burger-thing?
You have 20 seconds to comply.
How much is your browsing history worth to THEM?
The struggle is real.
Not a single responsible party thought to themselves....
"Gee... It sure would be nice if we could broadcast messages long distances over the air using already in place infrastructure"
"I sure wish we had a fault tolerant communications network already in place nationwide for just such emergencies"
"Golly, those young warfighters we keep training must be using magic to communicate with each other in all those hostile 3rd world countries we keep sending them to"
Nope, another 6.5 Billion goin out!
Hungry children in school?
-No free lunch for students..... cant afford it.
Rising sea-levels?
-No climate change research...cant afford it.
Seriously,. wtf is really going here? There has GOT to be more to this. It's like the whole country is being punked.
Seriously. Stop watching TV. Stop reading biased news (paper and on the internet) Stop gobbling up packaged entertainment news. Start watching the actual leader's speech, and form your own conclusions instead of condensed media spin. When the eyeballs dry up on the talking heads, things will change. We've been conditioned over the span of nearly 70 years to accept 8 hours of job creating value for others, followed by 3-5 hours of family screen consumption/repeat. We've allowed this to color our cultural world view so deeply that we now bicker between each other nothings like red vs blue, boys vs girls, and white vs black, every single time something important happens (or is about to happen). Its our news, our shows, our music, its all over our public gathering places, its in our schools, and our jobs.. its in our vehicles and in our communications. I can't barley pump gas without some clown on a screen trying to get me fired up over the latest non-issue, or trying to enrage/outrage me against some cause that aint even mine.
It's evident just reading through this discussion, and nearly every discussion on /. and everywhere else online since the last American election. The spin machine was cranked up to 11 for that shit-show, and it never got turned back down. Fake news is just the next thing to keep you and me bickering with each other instead of paying attention to things like the rise of our inevitable medical costs, the evaporation of our personal freedoms, and the buying and selling of our elected leaders by the very ones peddling the broken media and broken healthcare in the first place.
There is now way fake news is an accident. Its so god-damned effective its fucking genius.
Which freedoms have you lost? Be specific. Have you had any of your Constitutional rights violated? Be specific.
And what's wrong with storing passport and driver license photos?
I know your posting as AC, and not expecting an answer, but these are VERY VALID QUESTIONS and I don't think you deserved to be modded down....
I don't know about you, but over the last decade or so, I personally feel that my right to be secure in my person is not exactly strong. Lets not even get started on my papers and effects. Maybe you haven't been paying attention?
Or maybe since they are using my face, without my consent, it maybe doesn't count as bearing witness against myself?
I know that's not as specific as you had asked, but I think its best to leave that to the student. Call it a story problem. Which specific freedoms am I talking about?
I feel my face is a pretty big part of my person. I feel like its mine. That's what we are discussing here. The storage and use of yours and mine faces (not likenesses) against our consent, for use in automated law enforcement tools. Let that sink in for a moment. Say it out loud.
Automated. Law. Enforcement.
When you find yourself implicated in a rape or murder simply because your ID card photo from 15 years ago shares some of the features of the real villain, and the closed-source-super-classified-no-oversight-working-just-fine-thankyou-FBI-computer-system put you on the wrong side of 15%, remember how worth it the convenience of not having to stand in line for hours at the DMV was.
It could be, automating our law enforcement is best answer to modern law enforcement problems (selective enforcement, racial profiling, corruption, etc.) but only if its rolled out 100% everywhere at the same time, and simply being accused of a capital crime no longer completely ruins your life - As it does today in modern America. 15% false positives seem like pretty good betting odds, right up until you start to think about whats at stake. Maybe if we can automate our legal defenses as well it will balance out, but criminal defense is a long shot from fighting traffic tickets.
This is real. Events over the past 5 years have put body cams on the front-line of enforcement. Automation is the next logical step. We NEED to talk about this. We need to talk LOUDLY, in public, to each other, to our elected officials, to our children, and to our law enforcers. We need to set some rules, enforce some old ones, and make sure everybody sees this coming, before its to late.
Keep asking valid questions AC, and it's OK to ask them behind that anonymous mask.... for now.
Is your point that since we can't protect ourselves from every potential threat that we shouldn't bother protecting ourselves from any threat?
Oh! Thank you for asking!
If the heading was to read...
Burglars Can Easily Make windows and doors stop being closed.
And my comment was to read "With the same blunt instrument used to smash your stupid Nest thermostat"
Would my point be clearer?