As far as I remember, the F keys were largely unutilized well before Apple assigned standard functionality to them. I suspect they wouldn't have done it otherwise.
Microsoft is bad enough, but I don't recall a lot of their updates causing people to need to reformat and reinstall from scratch once a month.
Are you seriously suggesting the problems in 10.2.8 are normal for Mac OS X?
Sure, every piece of software is going to have some problem with some individual's machine because people do strange things to their computers. But if memory serves, this is the first update in a long time that had to be pulled (I welcome corrections on that). I moderate OmniGroup's macosx-talk list. When more than a small number of systems have issues with a given release, I hear about it. With 10.2.8, there were problems. Usually there aren't.
Mac OS X hasn't crashed on either of my machines in 2.5 years, and from what I hear, that's not at all rare. Stability is the norm.
As for why Microsoft gets harassed more, why do you think? They sell themselves to the mainstream media as the one true software company, yet have lackluster products. It's a lot harder to say that about Apple. There's a good faith factor there that makes the difference when it comes to slashdot comments.
All Terminal app crashes have been eliminated by removing the Terminal all together.
FWIW, I can't remember Terminal ever crashing on me, and I've never heard of this. Maybe a corrupt font?
To fix this problem all permissions will now be set to World readable and writeable.
:)
Because we supply an ancient version of the PHP module with Apache and have been laughed at by Slashdot vistors, we will now install the Developer Tools by default. Now if you don't like it - compile it yourself!
You joke, but I think developer tools are installed by default when you buy a new machine.
Apple gets a pool of danger-seeking users to test their code
They actually used to have a program like this (in addition to the standard developer seeds). I can't for the life of me remember the name now -- some three letter acronym. I saw it on their web site years ago. It was basically covert beta testing by end users.
For some reason, Apple insists on using the function keys for things like changing sound volume and turning up and down the screen brightness
It's to support the labels on the PowerBook keyboards. F1-F4 are marked with increase/decrease icons for brightness and sound. Far more people use these than use Emacs, which doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to change them, of course.:) I suspect there's a solution out there somewhere.
Mac users being accustomed to a mouse-centric experience rather than a keyboard-centric user interface.
Mac users tend to be heavy users of keyboard shortcuts, but it's rare for Mac software to use the functions keys. I think it has to do with the fact that they're sort of "out of range" of where your hands usually rest. Fine for changing volume (less frequent task), less convenient for something you're doing a lot like copy/paste. Unfortunately, this well-intended design is working against you at the moment.
Please provide proof of this. I know that MS wanted the Dell site to run on IIS rather than Apache but that had nothing to do with NeXT.
It's common knowledge. Google for "Dell site WebObjects" and you'll get a lot of stuff like this:
"Hancock paraded the successes of The Sharper Image and Dell, two companies using WebObjects for HTML and database management. The Dell site may be proof of WebObjects success - CEO Michael Dell said earlier in the day that the site is pulling in US$500 million in online sales. "
I guess the fact that you don't believe me means Microsoft did a pretty good job of erasing history.:)
How many major PC makers did PC advanced PC customization before Dell, where you pick exactly what components you want from Monitor to Video Card to Speakers?
The irony, of course, is that folks from NeXT (now Apple) built the web application that allowed Dell to offer online customization to its customers. Eventually, Microsoft talked them out of using WebObjects for political reasons.
But I believe the point was that Dell hasn't contributed much in terms of advancing the idea of what a computer is. They're just putting it together in different ways. Apple is a creator, Dell is an assembler. That's not necessarily good or bad, unless Dell gets undue credit for being a creator.
Apple squandered an insane amount of positive free press and a killer lead by initially releasing a "Mac Only" service
The iTunes Music Store is not Apple's only product. I think they're looking at the big picture of what they want to do with technology, and deferring everything to the success of a digital music service isn't it.
Why do people get excited when another windows clone comes out, and we are supposed to act like its the Holy Grail for Linux
And more to the point, why are the suits going to be excited to switch to something that looks like Microsoft, but doesn't have the Microsoft name? I don't know if this strategy makes sense. Sure it's cheaper, but that may not be enough alone to give up the comfort of the Microsoft name. They don't know software isn't supposed to be as bad as Microsoft makes it.
At least offering something different makes them consider the alternatives. Both Sun and the Linux community run around trying to mimick Windows so the transition will be easy, but you still need a reason to transition that's more powerful than the image of Micrsoft.
I have seen huge cumbersome application servers built around PHP that are a nightmare to maintain
This problem doesn't discriminate by language.:) Perhaps it's more common in PHP because the barrier to entry is lower.
My guess is that PHP needs a better OO design (and no, PHP5 is not it, yet)
I think you could argue PHP5's OO design is good enough, or just as easily argue that it's not. I'm curious, though, what your main complaints wants with it are.
better seperation of logic and presentation for larger systems
I was looking for this for quite a while and then found Smarty. At first, it seemed so simple that I disregarded it as being glorified search-and-replace templates. The temptation is to think "I can just do that by echo variables inline." But truth is, there's much more to it than that. After giving it a fair shake, I've discovered that it's an incredible useful, clever design. It's much more functional than it seems on the surface. It made PHP substantially more useful to me.
Between PHP5 and Smarty, I think there's a pretty good basic core toolset to work with. I actually think Java tries too hard in certain areas -- too many features, too much syntax, too heavy-handed typing system, too much complication. But no question it has its merits.
overpriced TiBook, which had trouble with airport range due to the materials it was built with, the same engineering that flaking [powerbookcentral.com] body paint? [djedwhite.com]
Amazing! You were able to find problems with a product using the web! Here, look. I can do it too: Dell laptops catch fire!
Guess what? All product lines have some problems, but they're usually made out to be much more rampant than then reality reflects. I know several people with TiBooks and they all love them.
And, yes, that damn overpricing. Apple should continue to do R&D for the entire industry and drop their prices by 50%. That's the ticket.
I hope that apple will soon discover that a mouse can have more than a single button...
And I hope slashdotters will soon discover they can buy a 5-button scrollwheel mouse for, like, $12. Mac OS X is aware of 2+ button mice.
I don't know the exact reason Apple ships a one button mouse, but I think most people that complain about it have easily wasted more money in time than the cash it would take to buy a mouse.
I don't think you're really looking a the big picture here. Whether you need 64-bit or not, a dual 64-bit processor at under $3k is a big deal. Biotech, high-end media processing, 3D rendering, general cluster computing -- all ideal applications for this type of thing. Don't make me bring up the "640k should be enough for anyone" quote.:) As for dual processors getting increasingly common, that may be the case, but it doesn't change the fact that it ads to the value of this particular machine.
The Java environment comment was referring to the Apple's JVM and its connectivity to the system frameworks, not the IDE. And yes, Wine can run Windows apps on Linux, but it's hardly the same experience as running native applications.
Look, I'm not saying x86 machines are useless. My point was that you get a lot for your money when you buy a G5. As far as I can tell, your suggestion is that it should be priced at roughly $1500, which simply doesn't make sense to me given the technology and economics.
You can deconstruct everything that's in an Apple product and try to compare it one-to-one with comparable parts on a PC, but if you do you're missing the greater value of how well everything works together in an Apple product. If you don't care about experience or overall product design at all, then by all means, go buy a cheap 32-bit, single processor x86 box with the case open, running Debian, Wine and some DVD software that isn't as polished as iDVD. It doesn't bother me one bit. Whatever makes you happy.
Five minutes with google located this review [digitalvideoediting.com], of a similar PC available for $3300... in 2001. So Apple are selling kit at the prices the rest of the world were using two years ago.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about there. This is a single processor 32-bit machine running at 1.5GHz, with a 266MHz frontside bus. What in the world does this have in common with the G5?
You've got it set in your mind to not like anything Apple makes, and don't let me stop you. But I think you're missing out by not even considering the fact that there's more to this than you think.
often identical, once you remove the ugly translucent plastic cover
If memory serves, it's been quite a while since Apple put out anything with a notable amount of translucent plastic.
It promotes interoperability when its platforms are not the dominant players in a field.
They did this with CSS support in web browsers too. Pushed for W3C standards when Netscape was ahead. Then, when IE pulled ahead, MS seriously lagged on updating CSS support and invented Windows-only web standards.
The reason many of us won't confuse Apple Computer from Apple Records is because we are all GEEKS.
You can't be serious.
Apple is well known brand and has ads about the music store in mainstream media almost daily. When was the last time Apple Records advertised at all, or even published something?
Do note that the Beatles '1' album has sold over 30,000,000 copies, and Apple continues to release new compliations that continue to sell very well -- Apple records does make good money!
Ummm, are you sure about that? I think Michael Jackson owns the rights, and the "Beatles 1" album publisher is listed as Capitol. You might be right here, but I can't find anything that references Apple Records for that CD. Tell me if you can find a web site for Apple Records or Apple Corps Ltd.
If that doesn't put them in the music business, I don't know what does. Not only that, but AppleMusic could easily be confused with Apple Corp's music business.
What business? Have you seen their site? I don't think they're in danger of losing business because they don't appear to be in business.
Can you find a single CD for sale from Apple Corps on Amazon? It might be there, but I can't find it. In fact, I can't find any signs of life for this company at all. If somebody can, I'd be interested in seeing it.
- Scott
Sorry, but the G5 is a good value
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Now I know why they've been charging an arm and a leg for those G5s.
$3,000 for a 64-bit, 2GHz, dual processor unix workstation that runs consumer apps, has a great Java development environment and burns DVDs?
Seems like a good value to me.
If they didn't gouge the consumer so effectively
You do understand the difference between "not dirt cheap" and "gouging," right? Nobody has to buy a G5, but Apple invests more in creating and manufacturing a product than Dell does, so they believe it's worth more. I happen to agree, but you, of course, don't have to.
If everyone just assembled components and sold them as dirt cheap boxes, the industry would be even more stagnant than it already is. Fortunately, we have Apple.
Okay, so I read the article, and the concepts sounds interesting. The thing I'm struggling with is that I read about how laborious it is to write the same type of EJB database access code over and over, and the solution is to have the code generated for you. I may be missing something, but I think NeXT solved this problem quite a while ago with Enterprise Objects Framework.
So, yes, you could write code to write code, but I'd personally prefer having less custom code to begin with. At least in the case of database access, EOF does just that, and I'm not clear what advantages code generation hold over the EOF approach in this scenario. Can anyone familiar with both approach shed light on this?
-- Any money saved on support will be spent to hardware.
So you crunched numbers on this, or just said it because it was convenient?
-- Many companies have custom made software packages. Why port them to new hardware and software when you can just buy a new PC or upgrade an old one?
Yes, why break the cycle of torment from Windows?
-- I can't tell you how many people bought an Apple simply because it came in that pretty case.
Silly humans. They buy cars for reasons like that too. You'd think people cared about aesthetics or something.
-- You can add memory, but at a higher price when compared to PC.
What dimension are you from?
-- They make no money if their boxes can be upgraded for a long time. They'd rather you replace it.
Part of the reason that Macs are easy to support is that people don't tend to turn them into frankstein machines, with a hard drive from 95, a NIC from 97, a USB card from 99, and a motherboard from 92. Perhaps you've noticed Windows doesn't always deal well with multi-generation configurations like this. People that dedicate their lives to maintaining/building computers may find this approach appealing. The vast majority of computer users are not in this category.
-- The G5 is overkill by most standards
Huh?
-- not to mention it's still damn expensive
US$3,000 for a dual processor, 64-bit unix workstation (that runs consumer apps) and DVD writer? Seems like a good deal to me. Or you can get a G4 flat panel iMac for $1300.
-- A PC will cost more to support but less to buy and upgrade.
Yes.
-- The addition of DDR memory was made by a marketing team. The 100MHz (or is it 133) front side bus can't use the extra memory bandwidth.
Sure they cost less to support, and increase productivity, but when the initial outlay is more than a compatible x86 box, the people in charge of budgets start screaming.
Then the same people are seen three months later screaming at their computer. Medium-term memory problems.
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Isn't there a chicken-or-egg issue here?
As far as I remember, the F keys were largely unutilized well before Apple assigned standard functionality to them. I suspect they wouldn't have done it otherwise.
- Scott
Microsoft is bad enough, but I don't recall a lot of their updates causing people to need to reformat and reinstall from scratch once a month.
Are you seriously suggesting the problems in 10.2.8 are normal for Mac OS X?
Sure, every piece of software is going to have some problem with some individual's machine because people do strange things to their computers. But if memory serves, this is the first update in a long time that had to be pulled (I welcome corrections on that). I moderate OmniGroup's macosx-talk list. When more than a small number of systems have issues with a given release, I hear about it. With 10.2.8, there were problems. Usually there aren't.
Mac OS X hasn't crashed on either of my machines in 2.5 years, and from what I hear, that's not at all rare. Stability is the norm.
As for why Microsoft gets harassed more, why do you think? They sell themselves to the mainstream media as the one true software company, yet have lackluster products. It's a lot harder to say that about Apple. There's a good faith factor there that makes the difference when it comes to slashdot comments.
- Scott
Now that it's finally out, there are quick glaring holes that cause the recall of the update and lots of bad publicity for Apple.
You realize 10.2.8 was release to the public, right? Not just developers?
Your post seems to be an argument in favor of developer seeds.
- Scott
All Terminal app crashes have been eliminated by removing the Terminal all together.
:)
FWIW, I can't remember Terminal ever crashing on me, and I've never heard of this. Maybe a corrupt font?
To fix this problem all permissions will now be set to World readable and writeable.
Because we supply an ancient version of the PHP module with Apache and have been laughed at by Slashdot vistors, we will now install the Developer Tools by default. Now if you don't like it - compile it yourself!
You joke, but I think developer tools are installed by default when you buy a new machine.
- Scott
Apple gets a pool of danger-seeking users to test their code
They actually used to have a program like this (in addition to the standard developer seeds). I can't for the life of me remember the name now -- some three letter acronym. I saw it on their web site years ago. It was basically covert beta testing by end users.
It may or may not still be in use.
- Scott
Where are all my files, Apple?? Does someone have to sue Apple before they fix their fucking QA?
Easy there mister troll.
I don't see anything in the MacFixIt notes about wiping hard drives, so if this actually happened, it's probably unrelated.
This one obviously got screwed up, but Apple has historically had a pretty good record for OS update stability.
- Scott
For some reason, Apple insists on using the function keys for things like changing sound volume and turning up and down the screen brightness
:) I suspect there's a solution out there somewhere.
It's to support the labels on the PowerBook keyboards. F1-F4 are marked with increase/decrease icons for brightness and sound. Far more people use these than use Emacs, which doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to change them, of course.
Mac users being accustomed to a mouse-centric experience rather than a keyboard-centric user interface.
Mac users tend to be heavy users of keyboard shortcuts, but it's rare for Mac software to use the functions keys. I think it has to do with the fact that they're sort of "out of range" of where your hands usually rest. Fine for changing volume (less frequent task), less convenient for something you're doing a lot like copy/paste. Unfortunately, this well-intended design is working against you at the moment.
- Scott
Please provide proof of this. I know that MS wanted the Dell site to run on IIS rather than Apache but that had nothing to do with NeXT.
:)
It's common knowledge. Google for "Dell site WebObjects" and you'll get a lot of stuff like this:
"Hancock paraded the successes of The Sharper Image and Dell, two companies using WebObjects for HTML and database management. The Dell site may be proof of WebObjects success - CEO Michael Dell said earlier in the day that the site is pulling in US$500 million in online sales. "
I guess the fact that you don't believe me means Microsoft did a pretty good job of erasing history.
- Scott
How many major PC makers did PC advanced PC customization before Dell, where you pick exactly what components you want from Monitor to Video Card to Speakers?
The irony, of course, is that folks from NeXT (now Apple) built the web application that allowed Dell to offer online customization to its customers. Eventually, Microsoft talked them out of using WebObjects for political reasons.
But I believe the point was that Dell hasn't contributed much in terms of advancing the idea of what a computer is. They're just putting it together in different ways. Apple is a creator, Dell is an assembler. That's not necessarily good or bad, unless Dell gets undue credit for being a creator.
- Scott
But there's that whole pesky thing about not controlling the hardware....
I think you're missing the reason Apple is in the computer business to begin with.
- Scott
Apple squandered an insane amount of positive free press and a killer lead by initially releasing a "Mac Only" service
The iTunes Music Store is not Apple's only product. I think they're looking at the big picture of what they want to do with technology, and deferring everything to the success of a digital music service isn't it.
- Scott
Why do people get excited when another windows clone comes out, and we are supposed to act like its the Holy Grail for Linux
And more to the point, why are the suits going to be excited to switch to something that looks like Microsoft, but doesn't have the Microsoft name? I don't know if this strategy makes sense. Sure it's cheaper, but that may not be enough alone to give up the comfort of the Microsoft name. They don't know software isn't supposed to be as bad as Microsoft makes it.
At least offering something different makes them consider the alternatives. Both Sun and the Linux community run around trying to mimick Windows so the transition will be easy, but you still need a reason to transition that's more powerful than the image of Micrsoft.
- Scott
I have seen huge cumbersome application servers built around PHP that are a nightmare to maintain
:) Perhaps it's more common in PHP because the barrier to entry is lower.
This problem doesn't discriminate by language.
My guess is that PHP needs a better OO design (and no, PHP5 is not it, yet)
I think you could argue PHP5's OO design is good enough, or just as easily argue that it's not. I'm curious, though, what your main complaints wants with it are.
better seperation of logic and presentation for larger systems
I was looking for this for quite a while and then found Smarty. At first, it seemed so simple that I disregarded it as being glorified search-and-replace templates. The temptation is to think "I can just do that by echo variables inline." But truth is, there's much more to it than that. After giving it a fair shake, I've discovered that it's an incredible useful, clever design. It's much more functional than it seems on the surface. It made PHP substantially more useful to me.
Between PHP5 and Smarty, I think there's a pretty good basic core toolset to work with. I actually think Java tries too hard in certain areas -- too many features, too much syntax, too heavy-handed typing system, too much complication. But no question it has its merits.
- Scott
overpriced TiBook, which had trouble with airport range due to the materials it was built with, the same engineering that flaking [powerbookcentral.com] body paint? [djedwhite.com]
Amazing! You were able to find problems with a product using the web! Here, look. I can do it too: Dell laptops catch fire!
Guess what? All product lines have some problems, but they're usually made out to be much more rampant than then reality reflects. I know several people with TiBooks and they all love them.
And, yes, that damn overpricing. Apple should continue to do R&D for the entire industry and drop their prices by 50%. That's the ticket.
- Scott
I hope that apple will soon discover that a mouse can have more than a single button...
And I hope slashdotters will soon discover they can buy a 5-button scrollwheel mouse for, like, $12. Mac OS X is aware of 2+ button mice.
I don't know the exact reason Apple ships a one button mouse, but I think most people that complain about it have easily wasted more money in time than the cash it would take to buy a mouse.
Seriously, any USB mouse should work.
- Scott
I don't think you're really looking a the big picture here. Whether you need 64-bit or not, a dual 64-bit processor at under $3k is a big deal. Biotech, high-end media processing, 3D rendering, general cluster computing -- all ideal applications for this type of thing. Don't make me bring up the "640k should be enough for anyone" quote. :) As for dual processors getting increasingly common, that may be the case, but it doesn't change the fact that it ads to the value of this particular machine.
The Java environment comment was referring to the Apple's JVM and its connectivity to the system frameworks, not the IDE. And yes, Wine can run Windows apps on Linux, but it's hardly the same experience as running native applications.
Look, I'm not saying x86 machines are useless. My point was that you get a lot for your money when you buy a G5. As far as I can tell, your suggestion is that it should be priced at roughly $1500, which simply doesn't make sense to me given the technology and economics.
You can deconstruct everything that's in an Apple product and try to compare it one-to-one with comparable parts on a PC, but if you do you're missing the greater value of how well everything works together in an Apple product. If you don't care about experience or overall product design at all, then by all means, go buy a cheap 32-bit, single processor x86 box with the case open, running Debian, Wine and some DVD software that isn't as polished as iDVD. It doesn't bother me one bit. Whatever makes you happy.
Five minutes with google located this review [digitalvideoediting.com], of a similar PC available for $3300... in 2001. So Apple are selling kit at the prices the rest of the world were using two years ago.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about there. This is a single processor 32-bit machine running at 1.5GHz, with a 266MHz frontside bus. What in the world does this have in common with the G5?
You've got it set in your mind to not like anything Apple makes, and don't let me stop you. But I think you're missing out by not even considering the fact that there's more to this than you think.
often identical, once you remove the ugly translucent plastic cover
If memory serves, it's been quite a while since Apple put out anything with a notable amount of translucent plastic.
Best Regards,
- Scott
It promotes interoperability when its platforms are not the dominant players in a field.
They did this with CSS support in web browsers too. Pushed for W3C standards when Netscape was ahead. Then, when IE pulled ahead, MS seriously lagged on updating CSS support and invented Windows-only web standards.
- Scot
great, these people will be using Linux desktops
It doesn't actually say "desktop" anywhere in the article. It's unclear to me if this is a server or desktop switchover.
Are they really willing to part with Word, PowerPoint, Excel, etc? It's great if they are, but I'm not convinced yet.
- Scott
The reason many of us won't confuse Apple Computer from Apple Records is because we are all GEEKS.
You can't be serious.
Apple is well known brand and has ads about the music store in mainstream media almost daily. When was the last time Apple Records advertised at all, or even published something?
Do note that the Beatles '1' album has sold over 30,000,000 copies, and Apple continues to release new compliations that continue to sell very well -- Apple records does make good money!
Ummm, are you sure about that? I think Michael Jackson owns the rights, and the "Beatles 1" album publisher is listed as Capitol. You might be right here, but I can't find anything that references Apple Records for that CD. Tell me if you can find a web site for Apple Records or Apple Corps Ltd.
- Scott
... all this software developed as six dollars an hour hits the market. Am I skeptical for thinking it's not going to be written very well?
- Scott
If that doesn't put them in the music business, I don't know what does. Not only that, but AppleMusic could easily be confused with Apple Corp's music business.
What business? Have you seen their site? I don't think they're in danger of losing business because they don't appear to be in business.
Can you find a single CD for sale from Apple Corps on Amazon? It might be there, but I can't find it. In fact, I can't find any signs of life for this company at all. If somebody can, I'd be interested in seeing it.
- Scott
Now I know why they've been charging an arm and a leg for those G5s.
$3,000 for a 64-bit, 2GHz, dual processor unix workstation that runs consumer apps, has a great Java development environment and burns DVDs?
Seems like a good value to me.
If they didn't gouge the consumer so effectively
You do understand the difference between "not dirt cheap" and "gouging," right? Nobody has to buy a G5, but Apple invests more in creating and manufacturing a product than Dell does, so they believe it's worth more. I happen to agree, but you, of course, don't have to.
If everyone just assembled components and sold them as dirt cheap boxes, the industry would be even more stagnant than it already is. Fortunately, we have Apple.
- Scott
Okay, so I read the article, and the concepts sounds interesting. The thing I'm struggling with is that I read about how laborious it is to write the same type of EJB database access code over and over, and the solution is to have the code generated for you. I may be missing something, but I think NeXT solved this problem quite a while ago with Enterprise Objects Framework.
So, yes, you could write code to write code, but I'd personally prefer having less custom code to begin with. At least in the case of database access, EOF does just that, and I'm not clear what advantages code generation hold over the EOF approach in this scenario. Can anyone familiar with both approach shed light on this?
- Scott
-- Any money saved on support will be spent to hardware.
So you crunched numbers on this, or just said it because it was convenient?
-- Many companies have custom made software packages. Why port them to new hardware and software when you can just buy a new PC or upgrade an old one?
Yes, why break the cycle of torment from Windows?
-- I can't tell you how many people bought an Apple simply because it came in that pretty case.
Silly humans. They buy cars for reasons like that too. You'd think people cared about aesthetics or something.
-- You can add memory, but at a higher price when compared to PC.
What dimension are you from?
-- They make no money if their boxes can be upgraded for a long time. They'd rather you replace it.
Part of the reason that Macs are easy to support is that people don't tend to turn them into frankstein machines, with a hard drive from 95, a NIC from 97, a USB card from 99, and a motherboard from 92. Perhaps you've noticed Windows doesn't always deal well with multi-generation configurations like this. People that dedicate their lives to maintaining/building computers may find this approach appealing. The vast majority of computer users are not in this category.
-- The G5 is overkill by most standards
Huh?
-- not to mention it's still damn expensive
US$3,000 for a dual processor, 64-bit unix workstation (that runs consumer apps) and DVD writer? Seems like a good deal to me. Or you can get a G4 flat panel iMac for $1300.
-- A PC will cost more to support but less to buy and upgrade.
Yes.
-- The addition of DDR memory was made by a marketing team. The 100MHz (or is it 133) front side bus can't use the extra memory bandwidth.
Did you mean a 1GHz front side bus , per processor?
- Scott
Sure they cost less to support, and increase productivity, but when the initial outlay is more than a compatible x86 box, the people in charge of budgets start screaming.
Then the same people are seen three months later screaming at their computer. Medium-term memory problems.
- Scott