From Rome to Berlin... Maybe you should open a map of Europe and see what's in between these two cities : Huge mountains. Try Paris to Barcelona instead (7h25), for example, and tell us if taking the plane is really worth it, considering all the security circus you've got to live with when taking planes and the fact that trains will bring you directly to near the center of each city.
I don't know for Eben Moglen, but I can say for sure that RMS didn't appreciate when we recorded and streamed a conference of him with proprietary software and codecs (RealServer+RealVideo).
Not only did we re-encode the video into an open format, but we went so far as to develop an entirely Free conferences/courses recording and streaming software (based on GStreamer) as a result.
Unfortunately the original website is down, but the latest source code is currently available from http://depot.univ-nc.nc/sources/ for those who might be interested.
If you had read what I wrote, you'd knew I already have a full time job, so I won't be out of business anytime soon.
Also most of the money comes from support and consulting, not selling packages, but again if you had read what I wrote, you'd knew I've stopped doing this.
So please, enjoy the show, it's Free Software so you're very very welcome to build on it, sell it and sell support and consulting.
As a clarification I must add that I "ask" people who redistribute modified "Official" binaries to not label them "Official", because they have been modified. This is the only "restriction" although it's not really one because I "ask" but people are Free to do otherwise. Really it's only a matter of respect : if you don't shit on your user base, they won't shit on you.
This worked fine for me with PyKota and other printing utilities that I'm selling as binaries for a number of years now from http://www.pykota.com/
All my software is Free Software licensed under the terms of the GNU GPL, and is freely available to all from subversion. People wanting tarballs or Debian packages can pay.
Additionally I used to sell support contracts and consulting work, but I had to stop when moving to another part of the world.
So yes it's a model which works. I don't have to rely on this for living though, since I've got an unrelated full time job, but if you can dedicate a lot of time to this and to make your software well known and respected (so I'm not talking about spam), you'll be able to get some profits with this model.
Metal detectors can't detect ceramic knives, can they ? I don't know if ceramic guns exist, they probably do, but I know for sure ceramic knives cut for real, and have no need to be sharpened.
It is an environmental problem because natural forests are ruined to grow different kinds of trees which are easier to transform into paper. This is also an environmental problem because the paper industry uses and certainely rejects a lot of chemical products in order for your paper to be white (mostly). <shameless plug="on"> Fortunately, there's always Free Software like http://www.pykota.com/ </shameless>
Most of what you say I perfectly agree with, in particular audio is the most important. However wrt video I disagree with you : in "some" circumstances, and whatever the subject, having a video is very important.
It seems you and me have done the same sort of work (see my other comment), and from my experience, students who take courses 8 hours a day each day of the week LOVE the video. We did a study and polled them about this very subject : they "feel" teachers consider them more (of course in reality most teachers don't care, but it's not my problem), and the course is less boring than an audio+slides (or shared wb) only setup, so their results "might" (unverified) be improved.
If they only follow one audio only course from time to time, you're right, but for an entirely remote learning year, having the video is a plus.
<unashamed_plug> If you want video streaming with the end user being able to interact, I suggest you give a look at http://boxtream.unice.fr/ it is entirely Free Software and documented hardware.
We coupled it with a Free Software IRC applet at University of Nice to allow remote students to ask questions during courses, creating an end to end (the first one ?) Free Software based interactive courses and conferences streaming solution : all parts from the video encoders, streaming and chat servers, and client sides applets are Free Software.
If only putting an "altered" label was mandatory on pictures where people were added or removed, or where the real location the picture was taken was hidden... this still happens. Such labels would effectively defend The People against The State.
If this is limited to anorexia and top models, and is not applied to photoshopped Sarkozy pictures (as someone else mentionned in this thread) this is only stupid dictatorial and bureaucratic bullshit.
For people who want to see what it is to live there, we've recorded a conference then visioconference with an international team of astronomers living several months a year at Concordia Base on Dome C (not Ridge A, but probably similar). It's at http://stream.unice.fr/concordia.html. Audio is in French but there are lots of pictures and video of the outside. Shameless plug : The recording was done with the help of the Boxtream project.
For those of you who don't read French, Georges Brassens' english wikipedia page will explain to you why you should avoid gorillas, simply search for "Le gorille" in this page.
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Hmmmm... modern democracies !
From Rome to Berlin... Maybe you should open a map of Europe and see what's in between these two cities : Huge mountains. Try Paris to Barcelona instead (7h25), for example, and tell us if taking the plane is really worth it, considering all the security circus you've got to live with when taking planes and the fact that trains will bring you directly to near the center of each city.
http://www.dw-jotd.com/not_my_job_award.htm
> You're diluted.
FTFY
And while I'm at self promotion, the next time he went we recorded him with this software : http://stream.unice.fr/polytech/rms20080505/
Additional features of this software suite (slides capture and sync, PDF creation, re-encoding...) can be seen at http://tv.univ-nc.nc/conferences/
I don't know for Eben Moglen, but I can say for sure that RMS didn't appreciate when we recorded and streamed a conference of him with proprietary software and codecs (RealServer+RealVideo).
Not only did we re-encode the video into an open format, but we went so far as to develop an entirely Free conferences/courses recording and streaming software (based on GStreamer) as a result.
Unfortunately the original website is down, but the latest source code is currently available from http://depot.univ-nc.nc/sources/ for those who might be interested.
Certainely not "Heinlain" or whatever...
"Je voudrais, et ce sera le dernier et le plus ardent de mes souhaits, je voudrais que le dernier des rois fût étranglé avec les boyaux du dernier prêtre."
It's from Jean Meslier (1664-1729), who was... a catholic priest !
Who cares ?
If you had read what I wrote, you'd knew I already have a full time job, so I won't be out of business anytime soon.
Also most of the money comes from support and consulting, not selling packages, but again if you had read what I wrote, you'd knew I've stopped doing this.
So please, enjoy the show, it's Free Software so you're very very welcome to build on it, sell it and sell support and consulting.
What is the problem ???
Nana ;-)
As a clarification I must add that I "ask" people who redistribute modified "Official" binaries to not label them "Official", because they have been modified. This is the only "restriction" although it's not really one because I "ask" but people are Free to do otherwise. Really it's only a matter of respect : if you don't shit on your user base, they won't shit on you.
(1) - I don't care. They don't do it, but they could.
(2) - I don't care. They don't do it, but they could.
For both (1) and (2) YOU could do it, YOU don't, but YOU could.
Do you have ever read the GNU GPL ???
Where's the problem ?
This worked fine for me with PyKota and other printing utilities that I'm selling as binaries for a number of years now from http://www.pykota.com/
All my software is Free Software licensed under the terms of the GNU GPL, and is freely available to all from subversion. People wanting tarballs or Debian packages can pay.
Additionally I used to sell support contracts and consulting work, but I had to stop when moving to another part of the world.
So yes it's a model which works. I don't have to rely on this for living though, since I've got an unrelated full time job, but if you can dedicate a lot of time to this and to make your software well known and respected (so I'm not talking about spam), you'll be able to get some profits with this model.
> Setting the desired tone? Gates bad. Torvalds good. Portman hot. Jobs cold.
FTFY
> not all of us have forgotten the debt we owe to Lafayette.
Sure ! Without him you would probably all still speak english.
Metal detectors can't detect ceramic knives, can they ?
I don't know if ceramic guns exist, they probably do, but I know for sure ceramic knives cut for real, and have no need to be sharpened.
And another one disappears...
It is an environmental problem because natural forests are ruined to grow different kinds of trees which are easier to transform into paper. This is also an environmental problem because the paper industry uses and certainely rejects a lot of chemical products in order for your paper to be white (mostly).
<shameless plug="on">
Fortunately, there's always Free Software like http://www.pykota.com/
</shameless>
Most of what you say I perfectly agree with, in particular audio is the most important. However wrt video I disagree with you : in "some" circumstances, and whatever the subject, having a video is very important.
It seems you and me have done the same sort of work (see my other comment), and from my experience, students who take courses 8 hours a day each day of the week LOVE the video. We did a study and polled them about this very subject : they "feel" teachers consider them more (of course in reality most teachers don't care, but it's not my problem), and the course is less boring than an audio+slides (or shared wb) only setup, so their results "might" (unverified) be improved.
If they only follow one audio only course from time to time, you're right, but for an entirely remote learning year, having the video is a plus.
<unashamed_plug>
If you want video streaming with the end user being able to interact, I suggest you give a look at http://boxtream.unice.fr/ it is entirely Free Software and documented hardware.
We coupled it with a Free Software IRC applet at University of Nice to allow remote students to ask questions during courses, creating an end to end (the first one ?) Free Software based interactive courses and conferences streaming solution : all parts from the video encoders, streaming and chat servers, and client sides applets are Free Software.
Feedback is welcome.
<unashamed_plug>
> it's like showing up to a first date wearing a clown wig and oversized shoes
but it CAN work, if you don't wear anything else !
If only putting an "altered" label was mandatory on pictures where people were added or removed, or where the real location the picture was taken was hidden... this still happens. Such labels would effectively defend The People against The State.
If this is limited to anorexia and top models, and is not applied to photoshopped Sarkozy pictures (as someone else mentionned in this thread) this is only stupid dictatorial and bureaucratic bullshit.
For people who want to see what it is to live there, we've recorded a conference then visioconference with an international team of astronomers living several months a year at Concordia Base on Dome C (not Ridge A, but probably similar). It's at http://stream.unice.fr/concordia.html. Audio is in French but there are lots of pictures and video of the outside. Shameless plug : The recording was done with the help of the Boxtream project.
Now that I'm thinking about it, it would have been perfect if I had signed as "alan" ;-)
You made my day !
Thanks.
As Georges Brassens once said : Gare au Gorille !
For those of you who don't read French, Georges Brassens' english wikipedia page will explain to you why you should avoid gorillas, simply search for "Le gorille" in this page.
> but then I realize my bear is nowhere near long enough
so you call it your bear ? then I suppose it's thick enough.
mine is call "my rat", as it's neither long nor thick.