OK, so I don't have a paper, but I remember my old Linux/P166 running great for a day or so when the CPU fan had died. I only noticed when I rebooted into Windows!
My notebook has a flaky RAM connection. 32 MB comes and goes depending on how the machine is squeezed. Win 9x products crash it hard, Linux and Win2k don't even notice.
So in my experience, Linux doesn't mind a hostile platform.
Actually I saw a program where they got professional wine tasters to do a blind test of all the colas. They gave very descriptive explanations of all of the colas, and the one they preferred the most (with the most complex and refreshing taste) was PC Cola.
I recognize that downloading copyrighted music is illegal. I also think it served a good purpose: CD prices have gone down - at least in Canada - and we are getting better legal ways of buying music.
But downloading copyright music in Canada isn't illegal. It's making a copy for personal use. Allowing that copy to be used by someone other than yourself (uploading/makeing available on a share of some sort) makes the copy illegal -- since it's not for private use.
Still, CD prices going down is a good thing. I continue to buy CDs, but they're good ones.
Debian, of course. The reason it makes a difference is the minimalist install - you don't by default have 4 or 5 daemons (paenguins?) monitoring hardware. You don't *need* automounters, either.
I (and presumably thousands of others) am using Debian "sarge" on my P-166 server. You don't have to use old software to get the performance you want.
Of course, once you install KDE3 or GNOME, all benchmarks are off;)
Actually, when I was learning, I found ports tremendously useful. Apps are KEY. I had dual boot (actually, triple - DOS&Win3.1-OS/2-Linux) and I WANTED to use Linux but when I got there, I didn't know how to do stuff.
I found ports of things like tar, pine, gzip, lynx and perl to be the inertia I needed to boot into Linux and stay there.
To all that say "Use it until it expires, then keep it for 911" or "Get one just to kick around in an emergency kit" are forgetting about BATTERY LIFE.
Does anyone really think you can recharge these things? Or that they have awesome shelf life? There's probably enough juice to get you through the minutes about twice (for safety) then you have to bring it in to replace the battery pack anyway.
Good for you, not as good for the CD+RW guy at the top of the thread.
DVD-Rs play in *most* machines. The original purpose was to prevent copied movies from playing. It doesn't seem like the DVD player manufacturers are playing the same game, and many of them play burned DVDs. Remember, the test did NOT say 100% of players played them...
From what I understand, you *can*. Check out this page. Have you tried setting the book type? You can flag a DVD+RW to look like a DVD-ROM. This is something you *can't* do with a DVD-RW.
I hate to break up the "Browser/email" only discussion here...
All you need to do is burn yourself a copy of GNUWin II and try out everything. Not absolutely everything is available in Linux, IIRC, but the vast majority.
Some of the stuff on there is getting old, though. It's time for an update.
That CD should be bundled with every computer. It's bread & butter stuff.
I'd say you need to read even more mailing lists. There are plenty of know-it-all jerks out there.
Granted, sometimes people ask for it. "Hey d00dz; how can I list all running services on my machine, show your work." That's flat-out asking for us to tell him to do his own homework, in a nice way of course...
I've always said the best thing MS could do (in the past, anyway) was to distribute Linux.
For example, if they grabbed something like Caldera - with no significant upgrade path, and bundle it with their server products... They could say "Hey! Do what you want, but you'll probably find Windows easier and better). If not, they still sold a Windows server license.
This would also decimate desktop aspirations for Linux too, since they got both in the box, Joe Sixpack would prefer Linux, and even technical users would try their FVWM/Kernel 2.0 distro and say "Neat, but look how much more advanced Windows is!"
Then millions more people would at least say "I've tried Linux"
It's all in the spin.
Of course, this ain't so good for we Linux evangelists...
Nope. The retailer is the one that pays the levy, not the consumer.
The retailer could only buy from distributors that sell "unformatted & pre-tested" CD-RWs, but that would add its own production costs. Hard drives, on the other hand...
OK, so I don't have a paper, but I remember my old Linux/P166 running great for a day or so when the CPU fan had died. I only noticed when I rebooted into Windows!
My notebook has a flaky RAM connection. 32 MB comes and goes depending on how the machine is squeezed. Win 9x products crash it hard, Linux and Win2k don't even notice.
So in my experience, Linux doesn't mind a hostile platform.
/me jumps, nervously looks around, and covers up the webcam...
Yup on the POP3 thing - check out:
YahooPops
Mr. Postman
I agree... I remember back in my OS/2 days fully converting to ext2 - it was wonderful. It ran really well and the switch over to Linux was seamless.
Actually I saw a program where they got professional wine tasters to do a blind test of all the colas. They gave very descriptive explanations of all of the colas, and the one they preferred the most (with the most complex and refreshing taste) was PC Cola.
:)
They hated Coke.
Otherwise known as the "Truman technique"
I think the Palm OS 3.0 devices are ancient these days. With the Tungsten E's price range, there is no more valid "old Palm" market.
I'm cheap, and even *I* would get a Tungsten E (it's the same price as my IIIxe was).
More favorites...
...Trying to remember if I enjoyed Hacker or not.
H.E.R.O.
Drelbs
Impossible Mission
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
I recognize that downloading copyrighted music is illegal. I also think it served a good purpose: CD prices have gone down - at least in Canada - and we are getting better legal ways of buying music.
But downloading copyright music in Canada isn't illegal. It's making a copy for personal use. Allowing that copy to be used by someone other than yourself (uploading/makeing available on a share of some sort) makes the copy illegal -- since it's not for private use.
Still, CD prices going down is a good thing. I continue to buy CDs, but they're good ones.
Don't worry! To see research done about magnetic induction technology in wearable electronics, just search for "speaker bracelet" on Google.
Debian, of course. The reason it makes a difference is the minimalist install - you don't by default have 4 or 5 daemons (paenguins?) monitoring hardware. You don't *need* automounters, either.
;)
I (and presumably thousands of others) am using Debian "sarge" on my P-166 server. You don't have to use old software to get the performance you want.
Of course, once you install KDE3 or GNOME, all benchmarks are off
Actually, when I was learning, I found ports tremendously useful. Apps are KEY. I had dual boot (actually, triple - DOS&Win3.1-OS/2-Linux) and I WANTED to use Linux but when I got there, I didn't know how to do stuff.
I found ports of things like tar, pine, gzip, lynx and perl to be the inertia I needed to boot into Linux and stay there.
When I feel like playing games, I turn on my PS2.
When I don't mind fighting video driver issues, background tasks, disk errors and infinite controller variations, I play games on Windows.
The latest ATI card isn't going to render text any faster than the 1MB trident card in my old 486...
Are you sure about that?
DOH. "Rechargable battery and charger"
And I *DID* RTFA. Blinded by indignation, I claim.
To all that say "Use it until it expires, then keep it for 911" or "Get one just to kick around in an emergency kit" are forgetting about BATTERY LIFE.
Does anyone really think you can recharge these things? Or that they have awesome shelf life? There's probably enough juice to get you through the minutes about twice (for safety) then you have to bring it in to replace the battery pack anyway.
Just a thought.
Good for you, not as good for the CD+RW guy at the top of the thread.
DVD-Rs play in *most* machines. The original purpose was to prevent copied movies from playing. It doesn't seem like the DVD player manufacturers are playing the same game, and many of them play burned DVDs. Remember, the test did NOT say 100% of players played them...
Nope, you can burn DVD-R. DVD-ROM are the pressed discs, and they have a special bit marking them as such. DVD-R(W)s come with this bit locked at 0.
From what I understand, you *can*. Check out this page. Have you tried setting the book type? You can flag a DVD+RW to look like a DVD-ROM. This is something you *can't* do with a DVD-RW.
Worth a try.
I hate to break up the "Browser/email" only discussion here...
All you need to do is burn yourself a copy of GNUWin II and try out everything. Not absolutely everything is available in Linux, IIRC, but the vast majority.
Some of the stuff on there is getting old, though. It's time for an update.
That CD should be bundled with every computer. It's bread & butter stuff.
I seem to remember flying right along with KDE 1.0 on my P166/32MB machine...
KDE 2.0 killed that, though.
They don't make it explicitly clear. I would like to see something like Debian's Free software guidelines
And is "Red Hat" proper now a non-free [as in beer] OS?
I'd say you need to read even more mailing lists. There are plenty of know-it-all jerks out there.
Granted, sometimes people ask for it. "Hey d00dz; how can I list all running services on my machine, show your work." That's flat-out asking for us to tell him to do his own homework, in a nice way of course...
I've always said the best thing MS could do (in the past, anyway) was to distribute Linux.
For example, if they grabbed something like Caldera - with no significant upgrade path, and bundle it with their server products... They could say "Hey! Do what you want, but you'll probably find Windows easier and better). If not, they still sold a Windows server license.
This would also decimate desktop aspirations for Linux too, since they got both in the box, Joe Sixpack would prefer Linux, and even technical users would try their FVWM/Kernel 2.0 distro and say "Neat, but look how much more advanced Windows is!"
Then millions more people would at least say "I've tried Linux"
It's all in the spin.
Of course, this ain't so good for we Linux evangelists...
Nope. The retailer is the one that pays the levy, not the consumer.
The retailer could only buy from distributors that sell "unformatted & pre-tested" CD-RWs, but that would add its own production costs. Hard drives, on the other hand...