If Spanish cannot survive, then it should die. It's that simple. There is nothing inherently wrong with a language dying. Survival of the linguistical fittest!
If you said something via email, you said it. It doesn't matter that it was via email. Email is just as valid a form of communication as anything else. Why do you support trying to make internet communication "less real" and "less important"?
You could always just run straight Darwin (by typing ">console" at the login window) and install XFree on top of that. Darwin binaries of XFree are at www.stepwise.com/Softrak, and FVWM2 and AfterStep have been ported to Darwin. Of course, you wouldn't be running Aqua underneath, but it's still cool, and it's free.
I think it's only a matter of time till there is a free X Window Server for Aqua.
The real question is, is Hunka-whoever a geek who was harassed for being an outsider in a neo-apocalyptic Columbine-esque highschool? This sounds like a job for the open-source youth-driven New Media, Jon.
online, the young are shaping information culture. They are the gurus, visionaries, technicians, repairpersons and authorities on the Information Revolution
You are taking a leap here, acting like every 13-year old with net access is a brilliant little technologist. I suggest you visit chat rooms and web pages made by 13-year olds.
So-called "games," messaging systems, and free music and software-sharing sites have served as their universities and career ladders
Playing Quake, chatting, and downloading mp3s is hardly educating our youth. Kids used to mostly waste time watching TV, now they use computers to goof off. It's more interactive, yeah, but how is this a "university" or "career ladder"?
Using mostly digital transmissions, stories get spotted, suggested and linked to by readers. Readers also have access to the editorial figures on the website. Through story input, moderation or discussion forums they have a say in how the site operates.
I guess this is your take on what a flamewar is.
They are free-marketeers and democrats. They are comfortable making money, unabashed about taking entrepeneurial risks
Yeah, it's fine they make money while they are young, but if they grow up and start corporations, they are the root of all evil, right Jon?
I'm a physics major, and for all I care, the engineering dept. can get blown off the face of the earth by aliens;)
btw, secrecy is legal, protected under the consitution. they have the *right* to hide their intentions. as long as they don't break the law, it's none of our business. if that bothers you, stop using the net, it's one big anonymous underground
There is absoutely nothing wrong with that. Nothing creepy about it at all, IMHO.
It's a free country, internet, whatever. Of course people will find bigger and better ways to do "market research". It's all part of the game. I'm a lot less worrysome about some advert company spying on me than the FBI, Uncle Sam, etc. Companies are more concerned with making money from you than censoring and opressing you...
...unless of course they can make money by doing that;)
Yes, insult my credibility, it's the easiest way to look like you know what you are talking about. No need to argue the facts or provide an alternate opinion, just claim your opponent is ignorant. Brilliant.
>It'd be great to be able to actually watch high-quality QuickTime clips without either proprietary hardware / software combinations
Don't be ridiculous. If QuickTime was open, M$ and everyone else for that matter would steal it's secrets in a second. There is NOTHING wrong with proprietary hardware or software.
"Nice, but I wish I could watch/listen without the QT player?"
Yeah, I wish my Ford Escort drove like a Porsche, but I didn't have to pay $100k. Of *course* you nee the QT player to watch QuickTime? Is it just me or are open source fanatics becomming more and more idiotic?
Tech companies have no responsibility to act as open source charities...the phrase "there is no point in keeping it closed" is patently ridiculous. The first rule is to protect secrets from competitors; the default is NOT open, nor should it be. If there is no overt benefit FOR THE COMPANY to open a project, why should the company consider it? It costs many man hours...(the US Government still has things classified as "top secret" that are from the 1700s, no joke. It's just not worth the spent resources to divulge.) Maybe for public relations, but that's just showmanship. Companies will only open projects when there is a POINT to doing so. I'm so sick and tired of this "open equals good, closed is of the devil" idealogy.
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It'd also be nice to see some less expensive PPC systems.
When will you guys ever get it? Apple is the only desktop box maker that does REAL r&d...so when you buy a g4, which are not that expensive, you are also funding ongoing development of some of the best hardware on the planet. Plus they have to fund development of Mac OS. Gateway, Compaq, etc., they just throw cheap components into boring gray boxes and sell 'em.
That's also why cloning didn't work....Apple can't compete with companies that do nothing but make boxes. The only way cloning would really work is if Apple stopped being a hardware company and focused on Mac OS only...
What is so great about this? What was the course for? How did having laptops in the exam help you learn any better? How did performing searches and using email educate you?
Technology itself is not necessarily an educational tool. Too many people, especially President Clinton, act as if having the 'net in every classroom suddenly improves the quality of learning. WRONG...these new tools have to be used in a proper, intelligent way...they're mere existence improves nothing at all!
This recycled bit of NeXT technology is not the great leap you make it out to be and will likely go unnoticed by most users not interested in maximizing the number of buzzwords that they can use in a dickwaving contest.
Wrong, pal. Quartz (the engine behind Aqua) isn't recycled NeXT technology...it's completely new and different. Yes, much of the foundation of MacOS X is recycled (and updated) OpenStep stuff, but the UI skeleton is not. There are things you can do with Quartz that no other UI currently available supports. Yes, a lot of this new functionality is aimed at graphics houses and the publishing industry, but it goes far beyond throbbing default buttons and translucent windows. Read up on Quartz a little before you make such idiotic statements...
Surprising as it may be, not all of us PREFER OS X, and if we can emulate those features we want, Linux is an acceptable replacement.
Yes, "close enough" is relative...but this guy is talking about a game that's 3+ years old, and using cheesy gumdrop-button themes, acting like this is somehow a viable alternative to "the real thing". It's not even close...call linux "stable, powerful, and robust" all you want, but old games and gumdrop themes don't make it anything like the Mac OS, or Windows2000, or whatever...
As for emulating features you want...sure, you can do that, but sometimes you'll be 2 years behind the real thing. If you don't mind using knockoff products that arrive late, that's fine, but not everyone wants to wait around for certain technologies to filter down to the "community" level. And btw, there's a mac proggy that does that rotating-cube-with-a-movie-playing-on-the-sides as well...it's nothing insanely impressive
But if you can put Nanosaur and a close-enough-to-Aqua theme on a Linux box, the premium for The Real Thing suddenly looks a little steeper.
"Close-enough-to-Aqua"? Aqua is a lot more than those pretty gumdrop buttons and translucent windows...it's a vector-based UI system based on PDF technology that no Elightenment theme can simply emulate. Yeah, your knockoff themes might *look* similar to Aqua on the surface, but the powerful capabilities that make Aqua so amazing aren't skin deep...and of course, an Aqua window theme doesn't give you the Cocoa support OS X has. That's right people, there's a lot more to OS X than the gumdrop buttons.
Quantum chemist? Don't make me laugh. Chemists don't know crap about Quantum Mech...you guys just know how to bake cookies, and yer even crappy at that. It's us physicists who rock the quantum world, don't kid yerself.
Offtopic, but very interesting: It seems OS X Client has been delayed until mid-2000, but Apple might release a "preview" version for cheap, maybe even free, early next year:
Slashdot Mirror
If Spanish cannot survive, then it should die. It's that simple. There is nothing inherently wrong with a language dying. Survival of the linguistical fittest!
If you said something via email, you said it. It doesn't matter that it was via email. Email is just as valid a form of communication as anything else. Why do you support trying to make internet communication "less real" and "less important"?
You could always just run straight Darwin (by typing ">console" at the login window) and install XFree on top of that. Darwin binaries of XFree are at www.stepwise.com/Softrak, and FVWM2 and AfterStep have been ported to Darwin. Of course, you wouldn't be running Aqua underneath, but it's still cool, and it's free.
I think it's only a matter of time till there is a free X Window Server for Aqua.
Er, I must have missed something.
Haphazard code causes the holes, and yet a haphazard open source project is going to fix this? Eh?
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I haven't done any Aqua GUI programming with Cocoa, but it hear it's nice, even easy. A good article on this was at MacWeek a couple weeks ago:
http://macweek.zdnet.com/2000/07/09/0710movesev
The real question is, is Hunka-whoever a geek who was harassed for being an outsider in a neo-apocalyptic Columbine-esque highschool? This sounds like a job for the open-source youth-driven New Media, Jon.
online, the young are shaping information culture. They are the gurus, visionaries, technicians, repairpersons and authorities on the Information Revolution
You are taking a leap here, acting like every 13-year old with net access is a brilliant little technologist. I suggest you visit chat rooms and web pages made by 13-year olds.
So-called "games," messaging systems, and free music and software-sharing sites have served as their universities and career ladders
Playing Quake, chatting, and downloading mp3s is hardly educating our youth. Kids used to mostly waste time watching TV, now they use computers to goof off. It's more interactive, yeah, but how is this a "university" or "career ladder"?
Using mostly digital transmissions, stories get spotted, suggested and linked to by readers. Readers also have access to the editorial figures on the website. Through story input, moderation or discussion forums they have a say in how the site operates.
I guess this is your take on what a flamewar is.
They are free-marketeers and democrats. They are comfortable making money, unabashed about taking entrepeneurial risks
Yeah, it's fine they make money while they are young, but if they grow up and start corporations, they are the root of all evil, right Jon?
Moderate this to 5:
I sent fake details about the "Cube" last friday, as an experiment.
To my suprise, they were published.
I'm hoping to run an expose this week, maybe next, at themacjunkie.com.
Jonathan Apple
>>DU teaching you anything besides engineering?
Please, don't insult me in such a disgusting way.
I'm a physics major, and for all I care, the engineering dept. can get blown off the face of the earth by aliens;)
btw, secrecy is legal, protected under the consitution. they have the *right* to hide their intentions. as long as they don't break the law, it's none of our business. if that bothers you, stop using the net, it's one big anonymous underground
There is absoutely nothing wrong with that. Nothing creepy about it at all, IMHO.
...unless of course they can make money by doing that;)
It's a free country, internet, whatever. Of course people will find bigger and better ways to do "market research". It's all part of the game. I'm a lot less worrysome about some advert company spying on me than the FBI, Uncle Sam, etc. Companies are more concerned with making money from you than censoring and opressing you...
Yes, insult my credibility, it's the easiest way to look like you know what you are talking about. No need to argue the facts or provide an alternate opinion, just claim your opponent is ignorant. Brilliant.
>It'd be great to be able to actually watch high-quality QuickTime clips without either proprietary hardware / software combinations
Don't be ridiculous. If QuickTime was open, M$ and everyone else for that matter would steal it's secrets in a second. There is NOTHING wrong with proprietary hardware or software.
"Nice, but I wish I could watch/listen without the QT player?"
Yeah, I wish my Ford Escort drove like a Porsche, but I didn't have to pay $100k. Of *course* you nee the QT player to watch QuickTime? Is it just me or are open source fanatics becomming more and more idiotic?
Tech companies have no responsibility to act as open source charities...the phrase "there is no point in keeping it closed" is patently ridiculous. The first rule is to protect secrets from competitors; the default is NOT open, nor should it be. If there is no overt benefit FOR THE COMPANY to open a project, why should the company consider it? It costs many man hours...(the US Government still has things classified as "top secret" that are from the 1700s, no joke. It's just not worth the spent resources to divulge.) Maybe for public relations, but that's just showmanship. Companies will only open projects when there is a POINT to doing so. I'm so sick and tired of this "open equals good, closed is of the devil" idealogy.
It'd also be nice to see some less expensive PPC systems.
When will you guys ever get it? Apple is the only desktop box maker that does REAL r&d...so when you buy a g4, which are not that expensive, you are also funding ongoing development of some of the best hardware on the planet. Plus they have to fund development of Mac OS. Gateway, Compaq, etc., they just throw cheap components into boring gray boxes and sell 'em.
That's also why cloning didn't work....Apple can't compete with companies that do nothing but make boxes. The only way cloning would really work is if Apple stopped being a hardware company and focused on Mac OS only...
What is so great about this? What was the course for? How did having laptops in the exam help you learn any better? How did performing searches and using email educate you?
Technology itself is not necessarily an educational tool. Too many people, especially President Clinton, act as if having the 'net in every classroom suddenly improves the quality of learning. WRONG...these new tools have to be used in a proper, intelligent way...they're mere existence improves nothing at all!
This recycled bit of NeXT technology is not the great leap you make it out to be and will likely go unnoticed by most users not interested in maximizing the number of buzzwords that they can use in a dickwaving contest.
Wrong, pal. Quartz (the engine behind Aqua) isn't recycled NeXT technology...it's completely new and different. Yes, much of the foundation of MacOS X is recycled (and updated) OpenStep stuff, but the UI skeleton is not. There are things you can do with Quartz that no other UI currently available supports. Yes, a lot of this new functionality is aimed at graphics houses and the publishing industry, but it goes far beyond throbbing default buttons and translucent windows. Read up on Quartz a little before you make such idiotic statements...
Surprising as it may be, not all of us PREFER OS X, and if we can emulate those features we want, Linux is an acceptable replacement.
Yes, "close enough" is relative...but this guy is talking about a game that's 3+ years old, and using cheesy gumdrop-button themes, acting like this is somehow a viable alternative to "the real thing". It's not even close...call linux "stable, powerful, and robust" all you want, but old games and gumdrop themes don't make it anything like the Mac OS, or Windows2000, or whatever...
As for emulating features you want...sure, you can do that, but sometimes you'll be 2 years behind the real thing. If you don't mind using knockoff products that arrive late, that's fine, but not everyone wants to wait around for certain technologies to filter down to the "community" level. And btw, there's a mac proggy that does that rotating-cube-with-a-movie-playing-on-the-sides as well...it's nothing insanely impressive
But if you can put Nanosaur and a close-enough-to-Aqua theme on a Linux box, the premium for The Real Thing suddenly looks a little steeper.
"Close-enough-to-Aqua"? Aqua is a lot more than those pretty gumdrop buttons and translucent windows...it's a vector-based UI system based on PDF technology that no Elightenment theme can simply emulate. Yeah, your knockoff themes might *look* similar to Aqua on the surface, but the powerful capabilities that make Aqua so amazing aren't skin deep...and of course, an Aqua window theme doesn't give you the Cocoa support OS X has. That's right people, there's a lot more to OS X than the gumdrop buttons.
Quantum chemist? Don't make me laugh. Chemists don't know crap about Quantum Mech...you guys just know how to bake cookies, and yer even crappy at that. It's us physicists who rock the quantum world, don't kid yerself.
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The 2nd word in this article is spelled wrong. The 2nd one!
"renowned"
Do you personally take "superstring" theory seriously? There seems to be many physicists who dismiss it as useless or even as nonsense.
I was watching the keynote via QT 4....Jobs never said the entire Mac OS X would be open source...he was talking about DARWIN!
Darwin is the Mach-based core of OS X which has been open source for several months, and is Linux-like in this respect. Sheesh...
How ironic a regime based on totalitarian control and oppression chooses such a free, unrestrained OS...
Communism stinks...this doesn't make those violent idiots any more "cool"...
Offtopic, but very interesting: It seems OS X Client has been delayed until mid-2000, but Apple might release a "preview" version for cheap, maybe even free, early next year:
http://www.macosrumors.com/10-99-2.html