So with all of the nifty, new stuff they are finally compliant, right? I mean no more body {text-align: center;} instead of body { margin: 0px auto; } to center a fixed width layout, right?
Those are two different things. text-align: center centers stuff in a div. the margin: 0 auto you set to a div to center that block (the div) in its container. Even IE6 works correctly with this, so I don't know what the issue is here.
For those having box-model issues with IE6, you can easily fix this by using the HTML 4.01 Strict DTD, FYI.
So close... Rainbows End. It even points out the curious lack of an apostrophe in the book itself. Unless you were talking about the album or the amusement park. Yeah, I'm nitpicking.:-)
Nitpick away, just don't spoil it! I'm only about 30% of the way into the book, so I haven't run into that explanation yet.:)
Never put your real name or any other real data into such services. I've been doing this for 15 years, and it's really hard to find me on people search sites.
A handy tip - mix and match real and fake data if you must use your real name. A real phone number and address from 15 years ago is quite handy.:)
I live close to a UPS store, where I rent a box. ALL my mail goes there. The only mail I get at home is the bulk coupon junk addressed to 'resident'.
Until these legacy browsers are replaced with modern updates, Web developers may be stuck maintaining two versions of their sites: a rich version for HTML5-enabled users, and a version for legacy browsers that falls back on outdated rendering tricks.
I've never worked for a company that gave me the time to do two versions of a site. The upshot is you always wind up with the lowest common denominator. Thus, no HTML5-based sites.:(
Unless you're willing to trust some javascript-based solution that enables HTML5, that is.
Out of curiosity, what do you have against IE8? I haven't had to jump through any hoops for it, but on the other hand I'm working mostly in Javascript and DOM, and less in layout/CSS-type stuffs.
I deal almost entirely in HTML/CSS issues, which is my problem with IE8. I'd dearly _love_ to be able to use border-radius without having to load some javascript hack to make it work with IE (all versions). It's not that the browser can't DO them, it just requires a javascript hack to make it understand the standard way of doing it.
For a product of a company that participated in the creation of CSS, it's remarkably behind on CSS support. Border-radius, multiple background images and border images would be great, as would css3 columns. But even if IE9 is perfect in this regard, it's still going to be years before we're able to use those standards because of the laggards still using IE6 and 7. *sigh*
For one, because Silverlight makes writing web-apps much easier.
No, what you get when you use Silverlight are *Silverlight* apps. There's a difference, and not knowing that difference is why we're in the "Can't move away from IE6" problem. Learn the lesson, please.
Microsoft will have to follow the standards this time because people (web developers and knowledgeable customers) won't put up anymore with custom development for specific browsers.
Wishful thinking. That's exactly what was said before IE7 came out. And then again before IE8 came out. I'll believe it when I test their next browser myself and see that it works. This is the realist in me talking.
The cynic in me says that even if they DO start supporting realistic standards, they'll probably turn around and try to patent 'complying with standards' (or have someone else do it and fun their lawsuits against others so they appear innocent).
I would _love_ to see them actually put out a decent browser, though. I'm just not getting my hopes up (again).
Hence the need for DNA for testing! Without DNA testing, you can never be sure whether it's your big brother, or just some unrelated weirdo spying on you. Makes a big difference.
Another dinosaur, Windowsaurus Mobelius, has also been identified in the fossil remains of early Silicon Valley users. It seems this dinosaur was replaced in its ecosystem by a smarter, faster breed called Googlesaurus Androidius, which went on to compete for resources with the Applesaurus iPhonius, which survived only as a brightly-coloured niche dinosaur, despite competing claims that its extinction was inevitable, and that its dominance was assured. Neither of these outcomes predicted for the iPhonius turned out to be true, and the Androidius eventually evolved into sentient killing machines.
Mobile phones don't have the shelf life required to replace the desktop.
This would be part of that ecosystem mention I made.
If you dock your mobile phone to access the 'big' data (videos, music, etc.), and other stuff is in the cloud, then replacing the phone itself isn't going to be a big deal, and with cell providers going the hwole 'go with us for 2 years and get your phone for half price' thing, that will incentivize people to upgrade their shit more often, which, from a web developer's perspective, I find quite nice.:)
The article is about the GPU business, which, IMO, is the less interesting aspects of these companies. The new hotness is all in the mobile space. You want interesting, read about the upcoming Cortex-A9-based battle going on for 'superphones', smartbooks and tablets.
People have been predicting the death of the desktop computer for a long time, but the problem is that there hasn't been anything realistic to replace it. We're within sight of that replacement. Once everyone has a superphone that can do the bulk of what people normally do (either when in mobile mode, or when docked to a nice monitor/keyboard/mouse at home/work), THEN (and only then) will the desktop PC fade away for the majority of people's home use.
I give it 2 years before this is practical, though of course, the ecosystem to support such a change is the hard part. Can you get access to all your data, etc., from your docked mobile? That's gonna be the key. What about when you want to take a call at home and use your docked mobile as a computer?
You want to make money - solve these problems now.
I was halfway through the description and intended to make a "Let's move everything to the Cloud!" joke, but I see the OP beat me to it. How disappointing. Let me give you a little tip: the person who sets up the joke isn't supposed to then tell the punchline. C'mon, Abbot and Costello 101 here, people. I don't know! Third base!
"C++ is too hard, I'll use java. java is too hard, I'll use C#. C# is too hard, I'll use python. Python is too hard (boner?), I'll use ruby. ruby is too hard, I'll use Go." -- GoFanBoy (formerly RubyFanBoy, formerly PythonFanBoy, formerly...)
Ruby is considered easier than Python? C# is considered easier than Java?
And you also mean the porting of thousands and thousands of x86 apps as well?
But most people don't USE thousands and thousands of apps. Or even hundreds of apps. Most people don't even use dozens of apps. You got your web browser and your IM client (maybe), (maybe) an email client, a DVD player, and I bet that's it for the vast majority of computer users outside of work. IM & email clients can be handled by the browser. Seriously - Chrome OS or Android running on a nice 1-2gHz dual-core ARM beast with hardware accelerated HD video w/ 4GB of memory is probably all that most people need at home, as long as it's got a decent screen, keyboard and mouse, they're set.
Download your Android apps, of which there *are* thousands (though many different versions of a much smaller number of TYPES of applications) for expanding into more obscure things. Most of which would be games, of course.
I'd like to see Chrome OS & Android merge sooner rather than later. Absolutely no point in having these be separate projects - with the rise of 'superphones,' there's not that much difference in horsepower anymore, and one platform target is better than two from a developer standpoint (usually).
IMO, anyway.:)
I'm hoping the day when I can take my dual-core 1+ gHz superphone out of my pocket, put it in a dock at home to get a big screen, real keyboard and mouse and true broadband home connection. Shouldn't be more than a year away. C'mon, Sprint, with the Supersonic! I'll fire up the beastly machine when I need to run Photoshop or whatever, but most of the time at home, my computer use is watching TV/movies/websurfing/email.
things like second life make me afraid the movie idiocracy will come true...
Idiocracy came true the moment the studio that paid for the movie decided not to give the movie a normal release because it was too controversial (to the idiots). If the successive waves of Birthers, Deathers and TEA Partiers haven't since convinced you, you're the subject of the movie.
People always referencing the movie Idiocracy make me afraid it is already true. Denigrating other people because of the choices they make seems to be the modern equivalent of racism.
Yes, because that's exactly what Idiocracy was about. Stupidity isn't a point of view, despite what FOX News may have you believe.
If ever an alien races comes to Earth and decides to destroy us for being uncivilized and uncultured, all we have to do to save ourselves is send them up the DVD sets of Python Python, Fawlty Towers and BlackAdder. And Manimal.
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So with all of the nifty, new stuff they are finally compliant, right? I mean no more body {text-align: center;} instead of body { margin: 0px auto; } to center a fixed width layout, right?
Those are two different things. text-align: center centers stuff in a div. the margin: 0 auto you set to a div to center that block (the div) in its container. Even IE6 works correctly with this, so I don't know what the issue is here.
For those having box-model issues with IE6, you can easily fix this by using the HTML 4.01 Strict DTD, FYI.
So close... Rainbows End. It even points out the curious lack of an apostrophe in the book itself. :-)
Unless you were talking about the album or the amusement park.
Yeah, I'm nitpicking.
Nitpick away, just don't spoil it! I'm only about 30% of the way into the book, so I haven't run into that explanation yet. :)
Never put your real name or any other real data into such services. I've been doing this for 15 years, and it's really hard to find me on people search sites.
A handy tip - mix and match real and fake data if you must use your real name. A real phone number and address from 15 years ago is quite handy. :)
I live close to a UPS store, where I rent a box. ALL my mail goes there. The only mail I get at home is the bulk coupon junk addressed to 'resident'.
Rainbow's End coming to fruition. Well, the beginning of it, anyway. No more psuedomimiviruses sneaking past!
Hmm...I gotta go; I'm having a serious craving for some honeyed nougat all of a sudden. Ya gotta believe me!
With modern CGI techniques, surely faking moon landings should be getting cheaper?
You'd think they'd be working to improve things, and fake a Mars landing, but heck, they can't even fake finding WMDs. *shrug*
Until these legacy browsers are replaced with modern updates, Web developers may be stuck maintaining two versions of their sites: a rich version for HTML5-enabled users, and a version for legacy browsers that falls back on outdated rendering tricks.
I've never worked for a company that gave me the time to do two versions of a site. The upshot is you always wind up with the lowest common denominator. Thus, no HTML5-based sites. :(
Unless you're willing to trust some javascript-based solution that enables HTML5, that is.
Out of curiosity, what do you have against IE8?
I haven't had to jump through any hoops for it, but on the other hand I'm working mostly in Javascript and DOM, and less in layout/CSS-type stuffs.
I deal almost entirely in HTML/CSS issues, which is my problem with IE8. I'd dearly _love_ to be able to use border-radius without having to load some javascript hack to make it work with IE (all versions). It's not that the browser can't DO them, it just requires a javascript hack to make it understand the standard way of doing it.
For a product of a company that participated in the creation of CSS, it's remarkably behind on CSS support. Border-radius, multiple background images and border images would be great, as would css3 columns. But even if IE9 is perfect in this regard, it's still going to be years before we're able to use those standards because of the laggards still using IE6 and 7. *sigh*
I am definitely vying for some serious funding. CAN HAZ MRZ PLZ?
For one, because Silverlight makes writing web-apps much easier.
No, what you get when you use Silverlight are *Silverlight* apps. There's a difference, and not knowing that difference is why we're in the "Can't move away from IE6" problem. Learn the lesson, please.
Microsoft will have to follow the standards this time because people (web developers and knowledgeable customers) won't put up anymore with custom development for specific browsers.
Wishful thinking. That's exactly what was said before IE7 came out. And then again before IE8 came out. I'll believe it when I test their next browser myself and see that it works. This is the realist in me talking.
The cynic in me says that even if they DO start supporting realistic standards, they'll probably turn around and try to patent 'complying with standards' (or have someone else do it and fun their lawsuits against others so they appear innocent).
I would _love_ to see them actually put out a decent browser, though. I'm just not getting my hopes up (again).
Decapitate, stake through the heart, and bury underneath a crossroads, just to make sure it won't come back.
Rule #1: Cardio
BIG BROTHER knows no bound, does it?
Hence the need for DNA for testing! Without DNA testing, you can never be sure whether it's your big brother, or just some unrelated weirdo spying on you. Makes a big difference.
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
Resisting? Who's resisting? You had me at "I'm Sergey Brin"...
If we are going to talk about things that are extinct then I would suggest naming it Abydosaurus Lisasaurus instead.
I'm not sure a stillborn mutant qualifies as an extinct species, but I suppose that's a matter of perspective. :)
Another dinosaur, Windowsaurus Mobelius, has also been identified in the fossil remains of early Silicon Valley users. It seems this dinosaur was replaced in its ecosystem by a smarter, faster breed called Googlesaurus Androidius, which went on to compete for resources with the Applesaurus iPhonius, which survived only as a brightly-coloured niche dinosaur, despite competing claims that its extinction was inevitable, and that its dominance was assured. Neither of these outcomes predicted for the iPhonius turned out to be true, and the Androidius eventually evolved into sentient killing machines.
All hail, etc.
Mobile phones don't have the shelf life required to replace the desktop.
This would be part of that ecosystem mention I made.
If you dock your mobile phone to access the 'big' data (videos, music, etc.), and other stuff is in the cloud, then replacing the phone itself isn't going to be a big deal, and with cell providers going the hwole 'go with us for 2 years and get your phone for half price' thing, that will incentivize people to upgrade their shit more often, which, from a web developer's perspective, I find quite nice. :)
The article is about the GPU business, which, IMO, is the less interesting aspects of these companies. The new hotness is all in the mobile space. You want interesting, read about the upcoming Cortex-A9-based battle going on for 'superphones', smartbooks and tablets.
People have been predicting the death of the desktop computer for a long time, but the problem is that there hasn't been anything realistic to replace it. We're within sight of that replacement. Once everyone has a superphone that can do the bulk of what people normally do (either when in mobile mode, or when docked to a nice monitor/keyboard/mouse at home/work), THEN (and only then) will the desktop PC fade away for the majority of people's home use.
I give it 2 years before this is practical, though of course, the ecosystem to support such a change is the hard part. Can you get access to all your data, etc., from your docked mobile? That's gonna be the key. What about when you want to take a call at home and use your docked mobile as a computer?
You want to make money - solve these problems now.
I was halfway through the description and intended to make a "Let's move everything to the Cloud!" joke, but I see the OP beat me to it. How disappointing. Let me give you a little tip: the person who sets up the joke isn't supposed to then tell the punchline. C'mon, Abbot and Costello 101 here, people. I don't know! Third base!
"C++ is too hard, I'll use java. java is too hard, I'll use C#. C# is too hard, I'll use python. Python is too hard (boner?), I'll use ruby. ruby is too hard, I'll use Go." -- GoFanBoy (formerly RubyFanBoy, formerly PythonFanBoy, formerly ...)
Ruby is considered easier than Python? C# is considered easier than Java?
And you also mean the porting of thousands and thousands of x86 apps as well?
But most people don't USE thousands and thousands of apps. Or even hundreds of apps. Most people don't even use dozens of apps. You got your web browser and your IM client (maybe), (maybe) an email client, a DVD player, and I bet that's it for the vast majority of computer users outside of work. IM & email clients can be handled by the browser. Seriously - Chrome OS or Android running on a nice 1-2gHz dual-core ARM beast with hardware accelerated HD video w/ 4GB of memory is probably all that most people need at home, as long as it's got a decent screen, keyboard and mouse, they're set.
Download your Android apps, of which there *are* thousands (though many different versions of a much smaller number of TYPES of applications) for expanding into more obscure things. Most of which would be games, of course.
I'd like to see Chrome OS & Android merge sooner rather than later. Absolutely no point in having these be separate projects - with the rise of 'superphones,' there's not that much difference in horsepower anymore, and one platform target is better than two from a developer standpoint (usually).
IMO, anyway. :)
I'm hoping the day when I can take my dual-core 1+ gHz superphone out of my pocket, put it in a dock at home to get a big screen, real keyboard and mouse and true broadband home connection. Shouldn't be more than a year away. C'mon, Sprint, with the Supersonic! I'll fire up the beastly machine when I need to run Photoshop or whatever, but most of the time at home, my computer use is watching TV/movies/websurfing/email.
"Don't be evil."
"Unless it's _really_ profitable."
things like second life make me afraid the movie idiocracy will come true...
Idiocracy came true the moment the studio that paid for the movie decided not to give the movie a normal release because it was too controversial (to the idiots). If the successive waves of Birthers, Deathers and TEA Partiers haven't since convinced you, you're the subject of the movie.
People always referencing the movie Idiocracy make me afraid it is already true. Denigrating other people because of the choices they make seems to be the modern equivalent of racism.
Yes, because that's exactly what Idiocracy was about. Stupidity isn't a point of view, despite what FOX News may have you believe.
I've got an idea for a new Dirk Pitt novel...
It's a bit runny, sir.
I don't care how fucking runny it is!
Oh...the cat's eaten it, sir.
Has he?
She, sir.
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If ever an alien races comes to Earth and decides to destroy us for being uncivilized and uncultured, all we have to do to save ourselves is send them up the DVD sets of Python Python, Fawlty Towers and BlackAdder. And Manimal.