um google app engine? spring? android? gwt? groovy? Please it's evolving and even finding new uses. All those "java is going to die" people are silly and not grounded in reality. Plenty of talented developers see its power and use it.
Just a note here - I'm interested in Android app development *despite* its use of Java, not _because_ of it. Still, at least it's not perl. *shudder*
Think about IE. It took 15 years to get them to implement standards in IE (In IE9)
I'm not sure you've learned this lesson. IE9 isn't done yet, so don't be counting those standards chickens in IE9 until IE9 is hatched and tested independently.
Too bad there's no hardware keyboard on this beast. I can't stand using touchscreen keyboards. Hopefully this isn't becoming the norm.
If you look at the Android phones that have been released and shown, this is definitely becoming the norm. This particular phone has a big friggin' screen, though, and if used with something like Swype, should produce better results than most cellphone keyboards, because almost all cellphone keyboards are UTTER CRAP (hello Droid). The new texting speed record was just set by someone using Swype the other day, I think.
Along with the fact that if you can download at over 8Mb/s (I've seen 4G sprint wimax equipment do that) then why the heck not watch hulu on your big tv, using your phone...
During the demo at the announcement yesterday, they used it as a Roku box. Crazy times we live in. I just wish the thing was shipping NOW. *sigh* 'summer'? Lame.
MOST people (no, not those of us here on Slashdot) don't even need an 80GB drive these days for their computer. OS, apps, and downloaded music generally fits really easily on an 80GB drive. Most people never rip a movie or anything like that. I just got a 64GB SSD to use as a boot drive, from Newegg for $144. With the coming die shrink for flash memory coming in Q4 this year, that price could easily be what you pay for a 128GB drive for the coming holiday season, or early next year, which is all most people will need.
Delegating! Good leaders know how to delegate better than lesser leaders. Thus, they delegate the lying to the professionals. Rent 'Wag the Dog' for a good example. There's also 'plausible deniability'. By not actually educating themselves on anything, they 'rely on what their researchers told them', when their handlers tell the researchers to tell them what the money men want them to say.
first slashdot goes web2.0, and now 4chan? there'll come a day when you won't be able to look up man pages on the internet without a web browser with javascript and java enabled. mark my words.
Basically - The specs say to do what FF does. (Or, well, FF does what the specs say, really.) The way IE6 uses text-align to center block-level children is, as you say, "odd". Tis nothing to do with the spec, just IE6 being FUBAR as usual.
I'm not too concerned about it; I rarely run into that issue. I'm just super-happy that going with a strict DTD fixes IE6's box model. THAT caused a fair amount of extra code to work around.
> > Those are two different things. text-align: center centers stuff in a div. the margin: 0 auto you set to a div to center that block (the div) in its container.
> Per the standards, correct.
> > Even IE6 works correctly with this, so I don't know what the issue is here.
> IE6 doesn't work correctly with that. Margin:auto won't center a div (even though it should); text-align:center on the parent will (even though as you note, it shouldn't.)
Weird. Okay, so IE6 seems to be using text-align: center (on the parent div) to center the child div. Odd. FF doesn't do that. text-align: center on the parent div DOES center align the text inside the child div, which I would expect.
I don't know what the CSS specs specify here - I thought text-align was ONLY for inline elements, not block elements. IE8 in standards mode works the same as FF on this, but IE7 compatibility mode 'works' the same as IE6.
So IE 6 & 7 ARE correctly doing the margin: 0 auto, but not the text-align: center for child block level elements (well, DIVs, anyway).
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Its would've been a much cooler (and scarier) demo if they'd carved out a Cylon head instead of a motorcycle helmet.
um google app engine? spring? android? gwt? groovy?
Please it's evolving and even finding new uses.
All those "java is going to die" people are silly and not grounded in reality. Plenty of talented developers see its power and use it.
Just a note here - I'm interested in Android app development *despite* its use of Java, not _because_ of it. Still, at least it's not perl. *shudder*
Think about IE. It took 15 years to get them to implement standards in IE (In IE9)
I'm not sure you've learned this lesson. IE9 isn't done yet, so don't be counting those standards chickens in IE9 until IE9 is hatched and tested independently.
Or else I will kill myself and get you guys into big trouble!
You don't have the guts, chickenshit!
> Destroy the Sun. :-)
But then we'd get a global cooling problem.
You liberals and your global cooling conspiracies!
Destroy the Sun. There, I fixed that for you.
"Since the dawn of time, Man has yearned to destroy the Sun."
- C. Montgomery Burns
He illustrates PERFECTLY the difference between intelligence and wisdom. He's only got one. *shrug*
> He's a witch! Burn him!!
WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does he weigh as much as a duck?
Well, he SYNCS like a duck! Burn him!!
An intelligent, thoughtful reply on /.? Expect to get modded to hell. ;D
He's a witch! Burn him!!
Stalin would have just loved that content-aware fill tool.....
"What Cosmonaut? I don't see any Cosmonaut."
Slower than a Cray. Less storage than a ZFS SAN. Lame.
But it's got a kickstand! (seriously, it has a kickstand)
Too bad there's no hardware keyboard on this beast. I can't stand using touchscreen keyboards. Hopefully this isn't becoming the norm.
If you look at the Android phones that have been released and shown, this is definitely becoming the norm. This particular phone has a big friggin' screen, though, and if used with something like Swype, should produce better results than most cellphone keyboards, because almost all cellphone keyboards are UTTER CRAP (hello Droid). The new texting speed record was just set by someone using Swype the other day, I think.
Along with the fact that if you can download at over 8Mb/s (I've seen 4G sprint wimax equipment do that) then why the heck not watch hulu on your big tv, using your phone...
During the demo at the announcement yesterday, they used it as a Roku box. Crazy times we live in. I just wish the thing was shipping NOW. *sigh* 'summer'? Lame.
A phone that records 720p video and plays it out via an HDMI jack? WHY?
You seem to be complaining about the HDMI port. If your phone can record HD video, why WOULDN'T you want to be able to play that on a big display?
So under your plan a French national on vacation in the US who experiences a serious injury will be told to just hurry up and die?
Well, a French citizen, for sure.
MOST people (no, not those of us here on Slashdot) don't even need an 80GB drive these days for their computer. OS, apps, and downloaded music generally fits really easily on an 80GB drive. Most people never rip a movie or anything like that. I just got a 64GB SSD to use as a boot drive, from Newegg for $144. With the coming die shrink for flash memory coming in Q4 this year, that price could easily be what you pay for a 128GB drive for the coming holiday season, or early next year, which is all most people will need.
So who is our superhero? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Obamaman? Anyone?
Remember: no capes!
Well, that leaves out Doctorow. Dang. Lessig?
http://www.northernsun.com/n/s/0016.html
Mutants for Nuclear Power!
*)
Delegating! Good leaders know how to delegate better than lesser leaders. Thus, they delegate the lying to the professionals. Rent 'Wag the Dog' for a good example. There's also 'plausible deniability'. By not actually educating themselves on anything, they 'rely on what their researchers told them', when their handlers tell the researchers to tell them what the money men want them to say.
first slashdot goes web2.0, and now 4chan? there'll come a day when you won't be able to look up man pages on the internet without a web browser with javascript and java enabled. mark my words.
Don't forget Flash! :)
Get out your torches, and somebody call Kurt Russell, quick!
Basically - The specs say to do what FF does. (Or, well, FF does what the specs say, really.) The way IE6 uses text-align to center block-level children is, as you say, "odd". Tis nothing to do with the spec, just IE6 being FUBAR as usual.
I'm not too concerned about it; I rarely run into that issue. I'm just super-happy that going with a strict DTD fixes IE6's box model. THAT caused a fair amount of extra code to work around.
> > Those are two different things. text-align: center centers stuff in a div. the margin: 0 auto you set to a div to center that block (the div) in its container.
> Per the standards, correct.
> > Even IE6 works correctly with this, so I don't know what the issue is here.
> IE6 doesn't work correctly with that. Margin:auto won't center a div (even though it should); text-align:center on the parent will (even though as you note, it shouldn't.)
http://interthresh.com/dtdtest.html
Weird. Okay, so IE6 seems to be using text-align: center (on the parent div) to center the child div. Odd. FF doesn't do that. text-align: center on the parent div DOES center align the text inside the child div, which I would expect.
I don't know what the CSS specs specify here - I thought text-align was ONLY for inline elements, not block elements. IE8 in standards mode works the same as FF on this, but IE7 compatibility mode 'works' the same as IE6.
So IE 6 & 7 ARE correctly doing the margin: 0 auto, but not the text-align: center for child block level elements (well, DIVs, anyway).
Fun times.
It's a sad day when it rates a news article when someone uses common sense. *sigh*
"Oops! Thought he was zombie," said Ballmer and shot the reporter's body again. "Double tap!"
Ballmer needs to work on Rule #1, though.