The tabbed browsing is almost up to galeon-level, though the speed is still slow, and its missing an (X) to close individual tabs. Use ctrl-w to close tabs in the meantime. This feature is quickly becoming my favorite.
The (x) isn't in the 0.9.6 branch, but it's back in
recent trunk builds so it should show up again in 0.9.7. Not quite sure why they dropped it in the first place, but enough people complained and it's back.
The OSOpinion article refers to Greg Roelofs'
forum post. My favorite part of the Roelofs' post is this classic line:
" So I nominate this for the 2001 tempest-in-a-teapot award... But since the/. crowd lives for this stuff, I wouldn't presume to imagine that my comments will have any discernable effect on the (flame)festivities.:-) "
How many posts did that article get the other day?:)
What this former Mandrake user / now FreeBSD fan likes is that FreeBSD assumes that you want a minimal setup out of the box. I performed a net installation from a pair of floppies and got just enough *NIX so that I could add whatever other crap I wanted/needed at my own pace, knowing the whole time what was getting installed where and why.
I've only been running FreeBSD for a month and a half, after running various Linux distros for about 2 years, and at this point I'd rather fight than switch back.
Are you talking about "BASIC Computer Games" and "More BASIC Computer Games" by David Ahl? Two ~150 page softcover books, one yellow, one red, as I recall.
The last beige Mac was formally discontinued in
August 1999, but the "new style" case designs realistically took over totally in January 1999 with the introduction of the B&W G3's.
It would be an interesting bit of trivia if it were possible to do a census of Macs in active use.
I love Fossil. Their outlet stores are fantastic -- their designs (both watches and sunglasses and the other stuff they sell like wall clocks and lunchboxes) adhere to the retro-futuristic aesthetic (think Hugo Gernsback and the Jetsons), but their products are priced for consumers, not fashion snobs.
I don't have any links off-hand, but I've read many accounts of people who have worked with RMS and came away hating the man because he would couldn't stand to let go of control.
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Because Apple's close hardware/software integration (via tools like iTunes, iMovie, iDVD, etc.) is one of the central focuses of their marketing now. It's not that they expect that people will buy Macs solely for the iPod, but rather that buyers will see the iPod alongside iTunes & iMovie and all the rest and decide that it's worth paying a premium to stay with the platform where they can expect integrated engineering.
What are you talking about? How does culr "taint" anything? Curl is dually licensed under an MIT/X-derived license and the MPL. The MIT/X license is GPL compatible. Are you trolling or just confused?
Alot of good osx is doing for the bsd community anyway.. heh heh
Um, how about the fact that engineers working for Apple on Apple's dime are contributing time, debugging, and new code to quite a few open projects? I'd call paying engineers salaries to work free codewhen a lot of other corporations are cutting programmers loose on the streets a pretty major contribution in itself.
I run MacOS X at home, and I have Xfree86 installed on it to. Even though I can run it rootless, I find that usually when I need to fire up X11 I'll end up running it rooted (on its own screen -- I use Windowmaker) because the cognitive dissonance is so high switching between OSX apps and X11 apps. Mac and X11 applications aren't the same -- the menus function differently, keystrokes do different things, they don't share a clipboard, etc. etc. etc. I find it's easier to keep things straight if I let each environment have a screen to itself. I can flip between them with a single user-definable keystroke (I use F13) and the switch is instantaneous.
Which platform? I know on MacOSX, for example, there was some major NSPR work necessary to fix MP bugs that seems to have had a performance impact (there are bugs open on this, and they're working on getting the perf back where it was.)
This isn't part of the core Mozilla project. This is an optional new feature being worked on independently. The fact that this feature can be installed on every platform Mozilla supports via the XPI mechanism (using no platform dependent code) shows the strength of the underlying XUL interface layer.
Is it just me, or does mozillaquest seem a very much like a plant?
Mike Angelo has been trolling for hits with these "Mozilla has 10 billion bugs and won't ship 1.0 until 2010" articles for months. Every time Slashdot links to one of these silly things, his ad impressions jump through the roof. It's just like the nonsense ZDNet posts when they want a quick traffic boost, only ZD's page layout isn't as nasty on the eyes as MozillaQuest's "MyFirstHomepage" visuals.
Anyone who has ever worked retail in the computer industry can tell you that cables are the highest profit-margin item sold in any computer shop. Working at a shop in college we routinely sold cables for $24.95 that we bought from distributors for $3-$4 bucks, not because we were gouging, but because that was the retail price.
@Home isn't a government service and you can't pound your firsts and express moral outrage because they don't do things the way you want: Again they don't owe you, but rather they offer you a given service at a given price.
Here's where it gets sticky: local cable services are quite often monopolies in a given region. If the only internet service available over these lines is controlled by a single corporate entity (which is the usual case, at least in the US), then your "if you don't like it go somewhere else" solution doesn't work.
Not stable enough yet. The carbon app is Fizzilla. I suppose that Fizzilla will replace OS9 build at a time. But it is definitely not ready.
The Carbon builds currently arent being tested under OS 9, although they _should_ work, there are no guarantees.
On the (very positive) side, it's been a wonder to watch Mozilla go from being almost unusable on OS X to being easily the best browser on the platform in the span of about two months. Kudos to everyone involved, especially Mike Pinkerton and Simon Fraser, who not only did a ton of hacking on the code to make it this nice but who have also been very active in the newsgroups (and other forums like Versiontracker) letting people know what's going on with build plans, branching, etc.
I have exactly the same model Mac, and while no speed demon compared to top-of-the-line hardware it feels (subjective, I know) dramatically faster than the two 500 Mhz Dell PIII's I use at work (one running NT, the other running a 2.4 kernel) for the "everyday" tasks: browsing, text editing, light graphics work, etc.
How much RAM do you have in it? Taking my iMac from 128 MB to 384 MB about doubled its subjective performance in OS X.
[blockquote]Sounds promising. Which reminds me, how is the BSD Ports conversion going? that would be very nice to have done, but an awful lot of those items are not exactly high priority consumer items.[/blockquote]
Like this:
http://gnu-darwin.sourceforge.net/ports/
.rtfd is a bundled directory format (like.app and.kext, among others) IIRC, an.rtfd bundle contains an.rtf file along with any embedded graphics. Like the other types of bundles on OSX, users can manipulate (i.e. move, copy, rename, etc.) the bundles as discrete objects from the gui. Try cd'ing into a.rtfd directory from the shell... As to how open and/or documented it is, I don't know.
Hear hear! I have Mozilla branch nightlies set as my primary browser on OSX and about the only thing I use the IE 5.1 preview browser for anymore are sites that insist on sniffing for IE. The current Mozilla _NIGHTLY BUILDS_ crash less than IE 5.1 on OSX 10.0.4.
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The (x) isn't in the 0.9.6 branch, but it's back in
recent trunk builds so it should show up again in 0.9.7. Not quite sure why they dropped it in the first place, but enough people complained and it's back.
The OSOpinion article refers to Greg Roelofs'
/. crowd lives for this stuff, I wouldn't presume to imagine that my comments will have any discernable effect on the (flame)festivities. :-) "
:)
forum post. My favorite part of the Roelofs' post is this classic line:
" So I nominate this for the 2001 tempest-in-a-teapot award... But since the
How many posts did that article get the other day?
I've only been running FreeBSD for a month and a half, after running various Linux distros for about 2 years, and at this point I'd rather fight than switch back.
Are you talking about "BASIC Computer Games" and "More BASIC Computer Games" by David Ahl? Two ~150 page softcover books, one yellow, one red, as I recall.
August 1999, but the "new style" case designs realistically took over totally in January 1999 with the introduction of the B&W G3's.
It would be an interesting bit of trivia if it were possible to do a census of Macs in active use.
I love Fossil. Their outlet stores are fantastic -- their designs (both watches and sunglasses and the other stuff they sell like wall clocks and lunchboxes) adhere to the retro-futuristic aesthetic (think Hugo Gernsback and the Jetsons), but their products are priced for consumers, not fashion snobs.
Howza bout this?
Because Apple's close hardware/software integration (via tools like iTunes, iMovie, iDVD, etc.) is one of the central focuses of their marketing now. It's not that they expect that people will buy Macs solely for the iPod, but rather that buyers will see the iPod alongside iTunes & iMovie and all the rest and decide that it's worth paying a premium to stay with the platform where they can expect integrated engineering.
What are you talking about? How does culr "taint" anything? Curl is dually licensed under an MIT/X-derived license and the MPL. The MIT/X license is GPL compatible. Are you trolling or just confused?
Um, how about the fact that engineers working for Apple on Apple's dime are contributing time, debugging, and new code to quite a few open projects? I'd call paying engineers salaries to work free codewhen a lot of other corporations are cutting programmers loose on the streets a pretty major contribution in itself.
I run MacOS X at home, and I have Xfree86 installed on it to. Even though I can run it rootless, I find that usually when I need to fire up X11 I'll end up running it rooted (on its own screen -- I use Windowmaker) because the cognitive dissonance is so high switching between OSX apps and X11 apps. Mac and X11 applications aren't the same -- the menus function differently, keystrokes do different things, they don't share a clipboard, etc. etc. etc. I find it's easier to keep things straight if I let each environment have a screen to itself. I can flip between them with a single user-definable keystroke (I use F13) and the switch is instantaneous.
Which platform? I know on MacOSX, for example, there was some major NSPR work necessary to fix MP bugs that seems to have had a performance impact (there are bugs open on this, and they're working on getting the perf back where it was.)
I walked in, the clerk said "I've seen you in here before", and handed me my upgrade pack.
Compare that to calling Redmond and having to provide a DNA sample and a TRW report.
This isn't part of the core Mozilla project. This is an optional new feature being worked on independently. The fact that this feature can be installed on every platform Mozilla supports via the XPI mechanism (using no platform dependent code) shows the strength of the underlying XUL interface layer.
Mike Angelo has been trolling for hits with these "Mozilla has 10 billion bugs and won't ship 1.0 until 2010" articles for months. Every time Slashdot links to one of these silly things, his ad impressions jump through the roof. It's just like the nonsense ZDNet posts when they want a quick traffic boost, only ZD's page layout isn't as nasty on the eyes as MozillaQuest's "MyFirstHomepage" visuals.
Here's where it gets sticky: local cable services are quite often monopolies in a given region. If the only internet service available over these lines is controlled by a single corporate entity (which is the usual case, at least in the US), then your "if you don't like it go somewhere else" solution doesn't work.
The Carbon builds currently arent being tested under OS 9, although they _should_ work, there are no guarantees.
On the (very positive) side, it's been a wonder to watch Mozilla go from being almost unusable on OS X to being easily the best browser on the platform in the span of about two months. Kudos to everyone involved, especially Mike Pinkerton and Simon Fraser, who not only did a ton of hacking on the code to make it this nice but who have also been very active in the newsgroups (and other forums like Versiontracker) letting people know what's going on with build plans, branching, etc.
I have exactly the same model Mac, and while no speed demon compared to top-of-the-line hardware it feels (subjective, I know) dramatically faster than the two 500 Mhz Dell PIII's I use at work (one running NT, the other running a 2.4 kernel) for the "everyday" tasks: browsing, text editing, light graphics work, etc.
How much RAM do you have in it? Taking my iMac from 128 MB to 384 MB about doubled its subjective performance in OS X.
[blockquote]Sounds promising. Which reminds me, how is the BSD Ports conversion going? that would be very nice to have done, but an awful lot of those items are not exactly high priority consumer items.[/blockquote]
Like this:
http://gnu-darwin.sourceforge.net/ports/
.rtfd is a bundled directory format (like .app and .kext, among others) IIRC, an .rtfd bundle contains an .rtf file along with any embedded graphics. Like the other types of bundles on OSX, users can manipulate (i.e. move, copy, rename, etc.) the bundles as discrete objects from the gui. Try cd'ing into a .rtfd directory from the shell... As to how open and/or documented it is, I don't know.
Hear hear! I have Mozilla branch nightlies set as my primary browser on OSX and about the only thing I use the IE 5.1 preview browser for anymore are sites that insist on sniffing for IE. The current Mozilla _NIGHTLY BUILDS_ crash less than IE 5.1 on OSX 10.0.4.
Will Mandrake PPC work from a partition on an
external FireWire drive? I'd like to play,
but my internal HD belongs to OSX.
One of the two "let's port everything in the world to Darwin and OSX" projects uses Debian's packaging tools extensively.
Performance and footprint test results are
posted regularly to the
netscape.public.mozilla.performance newsgroup.
You can see graphs and performance notes from
engineers working on footprint and bloat issues.