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Firewire Receives An Emmy
AxsDeny writes: "The makers of the ever-so-popular FireWire, Apple Computer, are being given an Emmy by the television industry. Apple will receive the primetime Emmy, which is given by the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, in a ceremony later Wednesday at the Goldenson Theatre in Hollywood. " So, maybe we can start giving Pulitzers for better keyboards and Oscars for a printer that really prints scripts well. Heh.
Talk about a lame-ass publicity stunt. Does anyone else think this is incredibly stupid?
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As I recall the Newtek Video Toaster got this award once :). Very nice!
Steve Ballmer loves him some software developers.
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The makers of firewire, "Apple"?...
Um....huh?....
Why does Apple get this award and not the IEEE for making the IEEE 1394 spec to begin with?...Apple just slapped a fancy name on it and stuck it in a lot of their computers.
Why was an Intel vice president quoted in an article about Apple, Firewire, and Emmys? What does Intel have to do with it? In an article about Universal Studios winning an award, would they have a quote from a vice president at Warner Bros.? That really doesn't make sense...
In a similar stance, the Coca-Cola Company has been given the lifetime achievement award by the ACM for keeping programmers coding
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there are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
for Steve Jobs to plug Pixar during his acceptance speech.
In regards to an earlier story, I think this further proves that Apple does count. Well some my not like their computers or interface, they have contributed a lot of other technological innovations to the computer market.
You OSS people are all just jealous because Linux didn't get one.
The fact is that all the media people I work with LOVE Apple. They DREAM about G4's, and there's alot of good reason too, as far as what it makes available to the basic user as far as video editing and what-not...Realistically there isn't alot of competition within the price range.
As a Linux fan, its an area that I would like to see the penguin break into a bit more myself, but this happens to be one area where Mac's proprietary archetecture seems to pay off a bit...There is some multimedia software for Linux, but the hardware support just doesn't seem to be there yet.
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Well....I wonder who will go up to get the award...seeing as Firewire was developed before Jobs came back from exile. Maybe it will be Steve Wozniak...maybe...
I bet Steve has his best red bow tie picked out. ;-)
Seriously, though, FireWire is a great thing, not only for the television industry... Many schools have begun using desktop video much more since the FireWire/iMovie combo became available. It really is awesome to see a bunch of third graders put together a movie about a book they just read.
Congrats.
You know it's bad when the main posting is trolling
To the whiners who grumble about Firewire being the basis for an Emmy (in engineering), I say shut up and mod Linux so that it's the freaking best video editing environment ever, and you'll get yerself an Emmy too!
...for DMCA.
Freaking industry whores.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
Actualy, these things are pretty serious, not just publicity stunts.
My Father and his partner once got an Academy award for all the work he did on digitizing audio. (Robert Ingebretsen and Tom Stockham.) Him and his partner 'invented' it, it's actualy a very big thing. I remember the ceremony.
It's not as big as the movie academy awards or the enetertainment emmys, but that's just because the American public is for the most part, idiots.
Apple came up with the technology entirely independent of anyone. It's then handed to the IEEE for standards-recognition. Apple controls the technology, IEEE controls things about branding and reviewing the technology itself, etc.
So you're wrong, it IS Apple's.
FireWire = IEEE 1394 = Sony i.LINK
As of right now, FireWire is the #1 recognized brand of IEEE 1394.
The next comment I write will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and see it early!
who thought firewire now had an enemy?
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Apparently Apple beat out IEEE 802.11, the Be-Sharps and Ron Popiel's combination prune-pitter/diaper squeezer.
Academy awards, non-primetime (technical achievement are the day before).
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Since I don't use video editing software or, for that matter, have a digital video camera, this might not be a relevant question, but here goes: What exactly of this did Apple do? They didn't create "FireWire", just gave it a snazzy name. They didn't shoot the footage, they don't make cameras and, as far as I know, they don't make digital video editing software. If they are given an Emmy for having nice-looking monitors or some sort of Special Achievement in Technology award for making the G4, fine. But did they even do anything to warrant being given an award for FireWire? Am I missing something?
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As television is s technical medium, advances in video arts and sciences have always been the subject of Emmy awards! When I was at Zenith, while it was a real corporation and not just a brand name, we had two Emmy's that were proudly displayed in our lobby. One was for the invention of TV Stereo, and I believe the other was something to do with digital TV.
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I say Linux deserves an Emmy too then. It was, after all, Linux that brought us Shrek and Final Fantasy. Let us not forget that Linux also rendered the Titanic in, well, Titanic. It will no doubt bring us more of such wonders in movie making in the future. It just seems inevitable that the entire industry will switch to Linux rendering farms.
Of course, if anything is learnt from this, the Emmy will probably go to Red Hat under the false pretense that they are the ones responsible for Linux.
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Good God I must have been misinformed, I thought I could do do digital video editing using USB or via an AGP port with a graphic card such as ATI All in Wonder. Better return my PC and buy a Mac.
Now, just think old ladies in jogging suits can download their soap operas to a firewire HD and have their favorite soap beau streamed to them on demand.
It's kind of nice to see that more than M$ is getting some publicity out there. I know more than a few people who purchased their computer to use AOL and watch DVDs.
Let's hope this kind of publicity will give apple a bigger chunk of the consumer pie. Hate Emmys, but love Mac
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who are the other nominees? and will steve jobs gush when they announce the winner?
For what..."Best comedy?"
I mean, the DMCA...it's a joke, right? I mean, all this stuff with Sklyarov, Felten, and that Norwegian kid...it's not really happening, right? I keep waiting for someone to say, "Ha ha, jokes on you!" and suddenly I wake up from the bad dream and the DMCA (Devil's Media Coercion Act) is history...
There's an award for "A Sleazier Piece of Crap Than Temptation Island?"
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It would only classify as a publicity stunt if Apple took action. What do you want them to do, refuse the award?
Firewire is AWESOME, and it makes dealing with audio and video files and applications much eaiser. Having a 1 inch tall hot-swappable 100GB drive is clearly incredible. It brings me great joy, and gives me this wierd fuzzy feeling.
Apple got this award because they invented a quality product which saves the television industry time and money. Perhaps thats why PC's adopted it?
It is a bit silly, giving an emmy to an inanimate entity, but if that post about Video Toaster getting one as well, I think its more than appropriate.
For you unfortuante, stricken, diseased Windoze lovers: Why not contact Jack Valenti and ask him to nominate Bill Gates for an Oscar, presented for making the nightmare of our Orwellian future not just a book, but a reality.
This is pretty dumb. I have never heard of anything like this. Apple is getting desperate in their advertising and marketing.
IIRC, They give out special Technical Oscars.
They aren't awarded at the show, but in a special ceremony before hand.
My former employer, AVID won one, and had it displayed in the lobby for quite some time.
The Mac really has done quite a bit of work in making video editing on a professional level possible. I think that their recognition is a "Good Thing" (tm)
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Colin Davis
I hereby nominate Garden Hose for an Emmy. Join me!
...they're all using Macintoshes.
A cable costing 50 bucks is not low cost. Yes its fast, but it is not low cost in any extent of the imagination. If it was 5 bucks, maby, even 12, but 50 no way. (I am talking Canadian)
On the other hand, this is not news for nerds, and I don't really care much about anyone who wins an Emmy, so I'm a little disappointed to see it on
Cuz this one made me laugh!
Final Cut Pro II (by Apple) is giving Avid Suites a run for their money. The company I used to work for produced a TV series on a G4 and it passed broadcast spec's in the UK. It is good enough for professional video applications.
Also, Quicktime has always been superior to WMP and RealPlayer: you can play it while downloading it (without streaming) and you can easily save and edit the files if the host allows you to.
Why Apple for it's FireWire and not IEEE for it's same 1394-1995 spec or Sony for it's i.Link (again the same)? Because Apple is the one that did the development and the popularizing of the technology thus their holding the majority of the patents & controlling the licensing.)
I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
Maybe we should all just be grateful the it's not Microsoft getting the award for 'helping to integrate the modern computing world', or some crud like that.
It surely won't hurt any for Apple to get some extra money and publicity for a while; perhaps Microsoft will sit up, take notice, and clean out one more bug in Win XP just to be on the safe side. Gaach.
Security through promiscuity is no better than security through obscurity.
This isn't too surprising. The 5C coalition (includes all major video equipment manufacturers and many content producers) are about to eliminate your ability to record any form of audiovisual entertainment without their prior consent.
How? HDCP/DTCP (see http://www.digital-cp.com/). They will require all audiovisual equipment (your receiver, DVD player, cable box, speakers, TV, STB, VCR, etc.) to connect to each other via firewire, to ensure end-to-end digital transmission.
Why end-to-end digital transmission? Two reasons:
1) They don't want you recording anything without their permission. Content will have a set of bits that define if and how many times it may be copied, and at what resolutions. There's a possibility this new equipment will also incorporate the ability to restrict the number of times it may be viewed as well. The entire bitstream will be encrypted. No "approved" device, no content. Period. And they reserve the right to remotely disable any device at any time.
2) They want to control the AV quality of what you watch. Want to watch Pay-per-view? Great. Want to cough up an extra $5 to watch it in 1080i or 720p? You don't? Too bad. 480i for you. Want to watch the Superbowl in anything other than 480i? Are you ready to pay for the privilege? You'd better be. Want to watch HD content? Better be 5C compliant; they won't allow that over analog connectors at all.
Some people already aware of these issues say "Don't worry; it'll be years before even the first pieces of 5C equipment are available at the high-end, and more years before it's achieved enough penetration to matter."
Perhaps. But the penetration has begun. Sony is now selling the KDP-34XBR2, the first in a series of 5C-compliant sets. It's in stores. Sony's cut a deal with Cablevision to roll out 5C-compliant cable boxes (Sony is a member of the 5C coalition).
It's not a matter of if, but when. A matter of months rather than years.
Yes, the movie industry is all aflutter about IEEE 1394 (aka FireWire). And that's because it's the delivery vehicle for their final and total control over what you see, how you see it, and how much you're going to pay for it.
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``ever-so-popular FireWire''
Heh, right. I wish it was more popular -- it seems like great technology, but from what I've seen, so much has been encumbered by proprietary technology and software interfaces. (or, at least, that seems to be why it isn't supported all that well in Linux yet).
Of course, I could be completely wrong..
You've got several good replies, but in bits and pieces...
Apple did...
They created FireWire
They gave it a snazzy name
They got it IEEE ratifed as IEEE-1394
They created workstations and laptops with Firewire integration
They created software (iMovie, iMovie2, and FinalCutPro) to integrate said workstations with FireWire camcorders
Gigabit ethernet, for streaming of large digital files to and fro
What Apple didn't do...
Create digital camcorders
Create FireWire camcorders
Create FireWire hard drives
Create FireWire CDRWs
Those are key components of this award, however =)
GPL Deconstructed
A few years ago I was attending a JPEG meeting where the Emmy that JPEG had just won was being proudly shown around. It's a recognition of contributions to the hard technical work of TV production.
I guess you have been misinformed, at least a little bit.
Macs do all of the above, now, what with iMovie and iMovie2, straight out of the box, without dealing with buying a video card and software, etc.
Grab a digital video camera, an iBook, and you have yourself a portable digital video workstation. Not terribly powerful, mind you, but very convenient.
Working over USB? How the heck do you capture film, then? From a video source to a box to be compressed before sending it over the meager USB line? Last I checked, the video quality over most USB video boxes was 320x240 motion jpeg at a fairly low framerate... as opposed to the DV standard of 720x480 DV compression at 29.xx fps...
Similarly via the ATI AiW card, though they probably get better framerates and resolutions... on the other hand, that's entirely dependent upon the CPU speed and the ability of the AGP bus/drivers to stream the data to the CPU to compress on the fly.
The whole point of the award and the contribution Apple made, with FireWire and their Macs, is that *any* two bit (well, I guess most television studios would prefer a more impressive title) hack director can make movies and films for a measly $2k investment. Television studios can now use FireWire CDRWs, DVD-Rs, HDs, camcorders, Macs, and software to keep the entire production chain digital and seemless.
So that's why Apple gets the award for FireWire =)
FireWire gave them the technical advantage.
GPL Deconstructed
It looks like Linux supports camcorders, storage devices, and even FireWire networking. (Apple invented FireWire, yet they don't even support FireWire networking!) I'm sure there are bugs, but in general I can't think of anything missing.
Is it really that bad?
Anyway, it seems to me that paying per quality of broadcast is reasonable.
On the other hand, being told what I can or can't do with something I've paid for doesn't seem reasonable at all!
GPL Deconstructed
You forgot reason #3, converting between analog and digital adds a process and the risk off loss. While it is theoretically possible with perfect waves to do these conversions loss free, realty results in loss. Additionally, analog signals are more likely to degrade. As long as the bits (1s and 0s) are still detectable, digital signals are "perfect" (as in, they remain identical to the original, which is an imperfect representation of the analog world, of course). Run analog wires by electric fields and you get distortion!
Have you set up a modern AV system? You need component video for digital clarity and HDTV, you run digital outputs for DTS or Dolby Digital discrete codings. You need an intelligent receiver to decode these signals, otherwise each of your devices needs to run 6-8 (5.1 - 7.1) analog outputs into the receiver.
It's a nightmare.
Then for more fun, hook in devices that don't support the latest standards and you run RCA cables or S-Video. Conversion between standards is messy, so either you pick one for your entire system of you have your Television swap around.
Philips has a line of programmable remotes that tops out at $1000 to deal with this situation!
Firewire would eliminate this all. In addition to a digital signal (which we have with digital audio and component video), you have its networking ability. That means no more confusing wiring!
Want to record from the Tivo/Replay to the VCR? Make sure you set up the VCR as an input AND output to the receiver, then set the input to the Replay and the output to the VCR. Receiver can't handle two separate input/output combos? No watching TV while you record.
Contrast this to the potential for a Firewire System. Run a long series of Daisy chains (or connections to the receiver, irrelevant) together and hook it into a MUCH simpler receiver.
Want to record from the Tivo to the VCR? No problem, hit a button, and the Tivo sends the signal straight to the VCR, without involving the receiver.
Want to record a CD mix onto the CD-Recorder while watching a DVD? No problem, the CD-jukebox and CD-R deal with each other without involving the receiver.
An all digital signal produces a better sound and video experience. Hell, some of the speakers do their own amplification so you can keep it digital to the speakers.
Firewire takes this to the next level and empowers the devices to do more.
Will this happen immediately? Of course not.
Will the RIAA and MPAA like it, maybe not.
Will someone produce this tech and take the A/V world by storm? Absolutely.
Firewire makes it possible to do things people don't realize are possible in the A/V world.
Get out of your Slashdot paranoia. Realize that improvements in technology can actually be GOOD for consumers.
...should receive an Emmy for implementing the first .38 cal remote channel control.
Rien n'est plus beau que le creux du 0.
...for producing "copyright infringement devices", which FireWire definitely is, isn't it?
Yes, I believe that was called "Who wants to marry a millionare." Another wonderful show brought to you by Fox Networks.
It's not like they convinced NASA to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars (what's the going $/kg-to-LEO again?) to ship up a cardboard cutout of Steve Martin as part of a lame publicity stunt that doesn't do much more than demonstrate of governmental support of...
Oh, wait, the MPAA already did that with the Oscars, didn't they?
Can we see some flambait on that post... I say something bad about linux i get a -1 score for my post and labled flamebate... Hey mods do your job now.... crack that whip.
(however i would agree about the dinner party thing... that is someone i would never want to sit next to)
We won a technical emmy last year, I was excited at first until I found out what goes into getting an emmy award.
$4000.00 for a table (requirement)
$400.00 per head for every extra person
Gifts for all attendees, $50.00 suggested (total of $5,000.00.
Copies of the statue, $200.00
encouraged to advertise in an NATAS magazine (12,000.00/year)
When I found out about all of this I decided not to go as did most of the rest of the team that worked on the product. Corporate ended up fishing pretty far down in the engineering pool to find any technical representatives to show up at the ceremony. The only corporate staff that went weren't even working for the company at the time we developed the product.
Needless to say, I decided to frame the letter and stay home to watch some movies.
Actually, Pixar got an Oscar recently for Renderman. So it's not that far out of a concept.
http://www.pixar.com/aboutpixar/awards.html
And for those of you bitter, jaded, open source monomaniacs, Apple did develop firewire. So go take your Prozac and relax.
http://www.silha.com/1394/1394what.html
...no not that feeling.
That someone feels like a fool right now. Im sorry but this proves linuxs users are just as smart as mac and win users. They just have more time to spend infront of a computer to write scripts to do things faster so they have to spend less time infront of the computer....
Why not give give the inventor of LSD the noble peice prize... make love not war.
It is going to be amazingly weird in 5 years when every piece of video equipment uses Firewire and DVD is still using RCA cables because of the stupid license limitations placed on digital connectors on DVD players - the DVD licensing agreement prevents digital video connectors from being added to DVD players, for fear of making it too easy to copy high-quality video.
It is going to be amazingly weird in 5 years when every piece of video equipment uses Firewire and DVD is still using RCA cables because of the stupid license limitations placed on digital connectors on DVD players - the DVD licensing agreement prevents digital video connectors from being added to DVD players, for fear of making it too easy to copy high-quality video.
The anonymous coward article of the same title is also mine - my cookies screwed up somewhere
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Standardization in the communications industry works like this:
1) Someone thinks up a cool technology (tokenring)
2) Someone usually thinks up a cool technology like 1) but not quite compatable (ethernet)
3) both (all) competing companies and anybody else who is interested goes to the standards commitiee (ISO, IEEE, etc) where they try and come up with a standard that is a good comprimise
4) sometimes same but incompatable standards are produced and their left to fight it out
In this case Apple invented the technology, but when they put it to the standards commitiee, they loose absolute control over where the technology goes, but they still have a major influence
Future DVD players will be able to have FireWire outputs as long as they use DTCP.
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Perhaps they are getting the emmy for building CPRM into the standard .....?
I can only get an Onyx or O2 from SGI. Grow up.
It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
Accepting the award for Apple will be Tom Boger, worldwide director of Power Mac marketing, and Eric Anderson, one of the engineers who helped develop FireWire for Apple.
asking who will be accepting the award when it SAYS who in the article...
obviously, article not read
Thanks Apple!
Maybe Linux should get an Emmy for its great role in the most wonderful movie Antitrust ;)
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And the Emmy for best OS in a movie goes
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"Retail price" is just a lame excuse. Its a suggested retail price, and if my shop (who would ignore bullshit MSRPs of course) was 2 blocks down from yours, those margins wouldn't mean dick when you only sold 2 cables a month.
Give them time. They'll give themselves the award.
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Check your facts. "Open Firmware is the name given to the IEEE-1275 Standard for Boot (Initialization Configuration) Firmware: Core Requirements and Practices." http://www.openfirmware.org/
No thats not very open nor is it standard!
Apple is all over Hollywood. These guys don't want to have to learn shell scripts. they want to point and click, then deliver.
Every second is important. If Firewire saves a few seconds per download, it more than pays for itself.
Maybe someday Apple will get an Oscar for FinalCut Pro. It is saving big bucks for the indie film makers.
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Apple voted against Son of CPRM earlier this year. Check this out. It's your music - burn it on a Mac!
I first heard about engineering Emmy awards, when I noticed that my boss had one. He got it for developing the closed-captioning system when he was working for PBS.
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The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
There is one MASSIVE difference between FireWire and IEEE 1394 and i.Link. The difference is that FireWire has a powered bus, whereas the others don't.
There has been talk of replacing even the standard electrical configurations of future homes to be low-power FireWire. FireWire may become an intregal part of in-home networking in future homes through their "wall plug".
I got nothin'.
Intel states that ieee 1394 will be a big thing in their motherboards soon (after trying to dilute it with USB 2), Sun includes 1394 on of their new workstations (I recall seeing the ports on a Sun Blade 1000), Sony and most other camcorder manufacturers include it (sony calls it iLink) and it reduces the requirements for processor/disk speed for capturing video, all this because Apple was tired of having to include video digitizing equipment on their motherboards.
I have used firewire to capture/edit video and can say that things are much better for the consumer using it versus the consumer not
using it.
Use to be one could pay several thousand dollars for a system that required raid disk and the best processor available only to still
have to deal with dropped frames.
Now almost anyone with a ieee 1394 enabled
camcorder and a PC with an interface card
can grab video, reorder it and put it back on the tape that it came from.
Even if you paid 50 bucks for the cable, the alternative would cost you more.
So before commenting I would ask you have you use it?
If not IMHO your trolling.
FireWire was developed by Apple. Apple makes iMovie, bundled on every consumer machine, to edit DV. Apple makes Final Cut Pro, which is in direct competition with Avid (and, I must say, easier to use than Avid) and is used in the industry.
I smell jealousy from Hemos...
Instead of ragging on Apple FireWire, why not at least have a pointer to the Linux 1394 project at SourceForge?
http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/
If ya want more links, I got em at IEEE 1394 links
how stupid are you? it would have to be seen by people on tv for it to be a publicity stunt. technical awards are given all the time to companies which invent useful tech. only the apple bigots here would see this as a "strunt"
... says the faggot using is Apple-derivative computer.
Please go back to ignoring Apple so we can skip all the bloody trolls and get some work done.
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Uhuh... How does FireWire work?
You plug one end of the FireWire cable into your Mac
You plug one end of the FireWire cable into your digital camcorder (sorry, you need a FireWire capable digital camcorder for this to work!)
Make sure the camcorder has been rewound (silly, but important)
Open iMovie, Premiere, Final Cut Pro, whatever.
Using the appropriate dialog box... hit import. Stop when all the film has been captured.
A few minutes later, and perhaps 20gb later, you've just transferred all the video at 720x480 at 29.xx fps onto your Mac.
Using the appropriate software, edit movie. Then, if you have PowerBook or iBook, show it to people on a TV, or tape it to VCR, or burn it to a CD, or something.
Worst case, you can dump it back to your digital camcorder via FireWire, and bring that around to show people.
FireWire is a transmission protocol... sorta like ethernet and TCP/IP, sorta like SCSI, sorta like IDE and ATAPI, sorta like USB. It just happens to be simple, like USB, cheap, like IDE, smart, like SCSI, and flexible, like TCP/IP.
The only other PC solution, but the way, even similar to Apple's machines, is Sony, I think.
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For its time, the video toster was the schwaggest piece of cheap hardwre out there for television production. It is still used today because of its grrrrreat pricetag, and that it has just enough tools to get it done without overdoing it.
"...primetime Emmy, which is given by the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences..."
Please note that the name of the institution includes Art AND Science! Science includes FireWire.
"...So, maybe we can start giving Pulitzers for better keyboards and Oscars for a printer that really prints scripts well. Heh...."
Perhaps we SHOULD be "giving Pulitzers for better keyboards and Oscars for a printer that really prints scripts well".
But, as it stands, the goals of those two organizations are not to promote and reward those kind of acheivements.
The Emmys, however, are a different story. Please recognize the difference.
Pulitzers and Oscars are given for art (and professional skill), Emmys are given for art AND science (and scientific/technical achievement). Hence the name of the institution; hence the the awards that are given.
Every Emmy telecast I can recall has had time set aside for the scientific/technical awards ceremony, which is a separate ceremony from the main one you see on TV.
Just because they're televised for four minutes instead of four hours, that doesn't mean the scientific/technical part of the Emmys are any less important. They are simply less titilating, which is why they aren't seriously televised.
Please understand the purpose of the awards you're bashing before you bash them.
I wouldn't drink anything from a company that's worse than Microsoft in fucking with the judicial system. http://www.guerrillanews.com/cocakarma/
A part of the traffic is reserved for isonchronous data (time-sensitive). This is part of the 1394 spec, it's of course impossible to slap it on afterwards. The same principle was later applied to USB (Apple laid the groundwork for Intel).
Your second assumption is also wrong. There is no difference between a IEEE 1394 disk for the Mac or for the PC (except formatting). Just like there is no difference between IDE or SCSI drives for both platforms.
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fuck avid, they suck dick and so does their shitty software.
the ROM is in SOFTWARE now, it's part of Mac OS now, wake up, you could write your own implementation of OF, flash it onto your newworld mac, and macos [x] would boot just fine, jesus.
Well, most of you don't seem to realize that IEEE 1394 is really what made it possible to make digital video editing a serious things. It could have been a market with each vendor having it's own standard and only using analog connections between different vendor equipments. However, IEEE 1394 was developped a long while ago, you might think IEEE1394 is a new thing of two years ago but it is not, it's been around for a while despite apple didn't have time, stability or money (or space in teh price of it's machine) to include it. But video equipment makers took it and used it a lot because it is a good solution for sending a lot of data on a bus. It is simple to use (even if it is extremely complicated inside).
The point of the Emmy is that Apple developed Firewire which eventually became IEEE 1394 when no one was develo0pping that sort of thing becaus ethey didn't see the need for it.
For once we got a standard BEFORE teh industry had really started to develop and it proved to be very beneficial!
While at first glance this seems rather silly, compared to the people that have recieved this award in the recent past, I think the quality of the award winners are going up!
I can't believe half of these dumbasses posting here can read
Geez! How do you people ever get any quality code out the door..
Um, why don't half the people posting here realize that Apple DID invent Firewire?
Apple owns the patent lock, stock, and smoking barrel because they developed it themselves. After thorough review, it was _adopted_ by IEEE as a standard, and anyone else using it is paying Apple for the license.
I see Apple bashed on these boards constantly, and I'll readily admit that sometimes the company deserves it. But for video editors both amatuer and pro, Firewire is the coolest thing to come down the pike in a long time. And the Emmy foundation gives tons of technical awards each year for tools that make work easier -- everything from tripods to camera lenses. I believe Avid and SGI have even captured a few.
So Apple deserves this Emmy, plain and simple. They've earned it.
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Is it really that bad?
Well, that depends on your point of view.
I look at it this way:
1. It is assumed that I will infringe on the copyright holders intellectual property rights. Thus, I am being treated as a criminal. A rather disrepctful way to treat your customers.
2. My fair use rights are ignored and eliminated.
3. I am expected to pay and pay and pay. I find this outright greed offensive.
4. The ability to timeshift, which in the US was held by the supreme court to be legal, is being taken away. This sucks.
5. Further disrespect for your customers by crippling technology. This can be seen in the DVD region encoding system and in CD watermarking today. And in the future by not providing the best format (i.e. 480i vs 720p) or not allowing comercial skipping (available today via ReplayTV's 30 second skip button or via fast forward on Tivo and VCRs). I find this offensive as well.
My overall sense of the situation is that the 'content' companies care not for their customers but only for their bottom lines. Ignoring the fact that if you take care of the customer the bottom line will take care of itself.
And thus, because the content companies want to squeeze every last penny out of their users (think addicts) HDTV, high definition audio (SACD and DVD Audio), digital music (MP3 et al), TV via the web (think of a sporting event in hidef with hyperlinks to stats, player profiles, etc. Broad band's killer app?) have all been delayed.
So is it really that bad? I think so. The technology is there. Yet as with the VCR, (which became a cash cow for the movie industry), instead of embracing new technology and the new revenue streams it would create, they are fighting it every step of the way.
And I think that sucks big time.
Steve M
I think copy protection sucks.
I also think that the rats nest of wires connecting my A/V equipment sucks.
My current system has a digital cable signal coming in with analog out going to a ReplayTV which digitizes the signal to store on the hard drive and reconverts it to analog to send to the TV which has an internal line doubler which redigitizes it. (Along with a DVD player, a VCR, a CD changer, a cassette deck, a turntable, a receiver, a second receiver, eleven speakers, a CD player, a computer, a phone connection, and a power conditioner. And lots of cables.)
So I too look forward to a firewire type single cable system that keeps everything in the digital domain.
A firewire system of this type was demoed at the Consumer Electronics Show a couple of years ago. Only the greed and disrespect for their customers of the content companies has prevented it from showing up in your favorite electronics store.
But an all digital system need not have any copy protection.
If only there was an electronics company that had the balls to tell the content companies to stuff it.
Unfortunately, I don't see that happening any time soon.
And that sucks.
Steve M
"Tonight I attended the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences 2001 Engineering Awards where Apple Computer was presented with an Emmy for the invention of FireWire which the citation described as "the cross-platform industry standard (which) revolutionized digital video production on the desktop." FireWire was further praised because it "has enabled the creation of broadcast-quality video on the desktop at consumer-level prices."
"As reported by cnet, Apple's Worldwide Director of Power Mac Marketing, Tom Boger, did indeed accept the award, alongside a smiling Eric Anderson, a key member of the FireWire development team. In his acceptance remarks, Boger thanked Sony, Canon, Kodak, Hewlett-Packard and other partners who
have helped spread the gospel of FireWire.
"Apple was the only consumer company to receive television's highest technical honor. Other Emmy
winners included Panavision, for their Primo Lens Series, daVinci Systems, for their powerful film to
video color correction system, and Vari*Lite for their Virtuoso lighting control console which, their introductory said, is controlled by a Mac. YAY. More info at the Academy's web site.
"On Sunday, September 16th on CBS, you'll get a quick glimpse of Apple's Emmy (don't blink) when
they recap the technical awards during the Prime Time Emmy Awards."