Breaking into a computer and breakign into a house are not the same thing whatsoever, dispite the similar wording. When you "hack in", the target machine and you are having a conversation. If you just had to find a house analogy, it's more like having your house and the target house merged together through spacial dimension warp...
So, if you want to find a good analogy like this, think of this:
You are on a train, heading to work. There is a man sitting next to you, bumping up against you everytime the train lurches on the track, nothing abnormal, nothing that you really notice. The before you get off, he tells you, "Hi, I'm a doctor. While I was bumping up against you, I was secretly feeling your chest for lumps. I have found a massive tumor in your left breast. You are free to leave it there, but one of these days, it's going to kill you. I am an excellent cancer surgeon, and I will perform the operation (or show your regular doctors how to) for free."
Now, what is your response? Assuming the cancer really *is* there, is your first thought to have him arresed for sexual molestation? Do you curse him for trying to save your life? Would you rathar have found out this way, or would you have preferred to find out after the cancer has spread and it's too late?
If the NYT didn't have this good samartian helping them, then they would eventually have been in serious jeapordy. Considering how fickle the economy is these days, he may have saved thier lives (how much would it have cost them if they ran a ficticious, slanderous story, of if someone subtly re-wrote all the ads to make them look bad, or if their servers were used to host mountians of RIAA goodies, or if al-queda decided to use them as thier cyber commad post)?
I wouldn't feel like thanking someone who broke into my house while I was on vacation, nosed around in my papers, and then told me about my "security problem" when I returned home. Why would I, or any business, reward the same kind of behavior inside someone else's network? Both examples are, at minimum, illegal invasions of another's property.
Wrong analogy. Being "in" a machine is not the same thing as being "in" a house. Instead the analogy is more like a doctor looking at you via X-ray or physical examination. If you met a doctor on the train, and he could see by looking at you that you have the first stages of SARS, would you think to toss him in the slammer for letting you know it (and offering to help you cure it)? Or, like the NY Times, would you prefer to find out about it AFTER your lungs were filled with fluid and you were choking and wheezing on your death-bed?
Do you want to come home to your house, turn on the lights only to find someone sitting on your sofa waiting to explain to you how insecure your house is because he was easily able to pick the locks? Even if he does no damage to your house and steals nothing is that something you'd like to come home to?
And lime Lamo, would he be willing to help me install pick-proof locks? In that case, sure! It'd be great!
Here's one for you: Would you mind a doctor coming over to you on the train and telling you that he can see you have an operable cancer, and that he'd be willing to treat you for free? Or would you rathar find that out when you collapse on the floor as the tumor begins to press on a major artery?
The NY Times is 2 products; an offline and an online newspaper. You knock the online version out and you've killed half the products the company offers.
So, I'm confused... The guy actually helped prevent this kind of thing from happening in the future, so it sounds like you are agruing that the kids did right... right?
United States 14.24; England and Wales 0.41; Japan 0.05
And the sales figures for GTA: Vice City
United States: 5,221,935 England and Wales: 800,000 (extrapolating from full UK figures) Japan: 0
Which just goes to prove that Take 2/Rockstar have a lot to answer for, the murdering scum.
These same figures may correlate interestingly with quality of dental care... Perhaps bearing those perfectly pearly white fangs stir up homicidal insticts?
It's no fun at all if the difficulty is becuase of a single puzzle that you KNOW how to complete, but can't because:
1) you have to constantly press buttons a random complicated sequence as fast as possible (jump from one spinning disk to the other through five screens while doging the robot lasers, no saving allowed at this point in the game).
2) you have to do long repetitive tasks over and over again (travel across the island, press a button, travel back flip a switch, travel back again press the second button, etc...) just to open a friggin' door.
3) figure out a puzzle that makes no logical sense (give the wrench to the fox and tell him to use it to bash the witch on the head)
4) figure out a puzzle that is complicated for the wrong reasons, or is so totally random that it is impossible to determine without the walkthrough guide (The secret code for the door lock can be found by taking the first letters of each name of the security staff, taking the greek equivlent of thos eletter, dividing by the floor that the elevator starts on in level 4 and then adding 3)
5) adding some kind of arcade-style game into your rpg-style game that is REQUIRED to progress pass a certian point (The king says, "in order to be my royal quard, you must first beat me at tiddlywinks!").
Making games challenging means you actually have to work at it. Dumping a puzzle that pulls you out of the story and takes ten frustrating days to solve doesn't make the game any more fun.
Customs has been advised that the servers did not contain personal, business-related or national security information.
Okayy.... So just what was on them, then?
They were completely empty. Completely. They never were used to and never inteded to be used, ever. Ever. Seriously. They were shut off since they were bought in 1982 and never, never, ever used for anything secret or anything. Especially not for anything secret at ALL... I SWEAR! This is a complete non-story, please stop asking about it. Nothing to see, nothing to write about, just normal EDS maintence contract gone wrong on some completely unused servers, pretty standard stuff. Here, look at the monkey.
The men, described as being of Pakistani-Indian-Arabic appearance
No no no! It's not like that at all... These men CLEARLY came from a mixed Pakistani, Indian and Arabic heratiage (20%/15%/65%, respectivly). What else are people who majored in Physical Anthropology in Austrailia going to do if they aren't going to schlep it as security guards? They have to make a living somehow, as there are only so many days that you can eat spit-roasted kangaroo in a row before you need a decent chicken wing or two...
Rapid touch typing like you are thinking can be a cause of carpel tunnel... So, if you have a choice between touch typing or cronic hand pain for the next 40 years, which one is it going to be?
With Rainbox Six, for example, they took a man, punched him *really hard* in various spots with a pole, and recorded him falling down. That simulates being shot.
Actually, I doubt this worked. I've seen people shot, and most of the time they just stand there for a second, totally unaware of what just happened, and the drop. A pole moves too slowly and will knock you down in a way that a bullet might not.
I have a wife and four kids and have been out of work for 2-1/2 months, but I'll clean toilets for a living before I'll stoop to threatening someone with violence to get a job.
And the managers and executives who laid you off so that they could raise the profit margin by half a percentage point and get themselves a nice fat raise will thank you for that service... After all, they're used to taking a dump on you, it's only logical that you'd clean it up for them too.
What does the RIAA have to say about you using their copyrighted material to generate music - music which is arguably not unique, but rather derivatives of their property?
Not much unless they want to start paying me for breathing in the air my plants expel... Just because you make something doesn't mean somone else can't use it if you are just giving it away for free... or at least one woul dhope for society's sake.
Someone in India can live off of $5000 a year, but an American can't even pay rent and utilities with that in a year.
If no one can their rent in America, the rent will go down.
Oddly, out here in San Francisco, the rents DIDN'T go down signifigantly once the dotcomer's left. They stayed nearly as high as they were for YEARS, the apartments completely empty, becuase real estate holders were hoping against hope that the rich people would return. They started laying off people instead of lowering thier rent prices. Even today there are daily layoffs at local title offices and rela estate agents. Sure, if you are willing to wait another 5-7 years, maybe the prices will become livable again, but 5-7 years is a loooong fucking time to out of a house.
Actually, that is the entire point of motion capture: It captues the fluidity of the actor exactly.
Actually, I see this as one of the main problems. Since the actors aren't really hurtling off 600 foot towers or doging real mini-missles fired by real mech commandos, the movements seem "wrong" somehow. They are all done in a green room with little reflective ping-pong balls which makes even the best actor lose some of his natural motivation. Without the set and scenery, he has a hard time "acting natural" and tends to overact, mime-like, to emphasize the things that are supposedly around him, but that he cannot see. So once the special effects are added in, he's making these big unnaturally sweeping gestures to pick up a pencil when an animator would never have done that, so the animation looks more "real" than the real life guy...
Of course, I still waste your bandwidth and mailbox capacity, but you no longer complain to uce@ftc.gov, my access providers, or anyone else who might cause me problems.
Actually, my email is set up to do exactly the opposite. Everything that SA tags as spam *automatically* gets forwarded to uce@ftc.gov without any effort by me.
Well I think to do it legally from California, they would have to set up a "business presence" in Japan, which would mean paying a nice hefty sum to the Japanese governemnt (way more than my own salary is worth). I would certianly be willing to take a pay cut for them, they really are a great company, but I think it is more than an issue of just jumping through hoops.
I must ponder this question: Before we create machines with human-level intelligence, shouldn't we first ask "why?".
As it is, we're running out of human jobs to do (McDonald's for example is toying with the idea of fully-automated vending machines), so what will happen when we can make machines that can work for almost nothing, and start replacing human jobs?
How about this.. Everybody replaced by a robot gets thier current salary paid for the next 20 years. Why would a company continue to pay you when a robot is working in your place? 24/7 workers are way better than 8/5 workers, and by looking like the "good guys" they don't have to worry about public or union backlah and end up getting a lot more utility out of thier workers for 1/3rd of the cost!
Well, it sounds logical to me and you, but supposedly it actually matter where you physically do the work, not where you live. I could easily keep an address here and do direct deposit, but the lawyers seem to think this wouldn't stop my company from getting sued by the labor office if they found out.
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Breaking into a computer and breakign into a house are not the same thing whatsoever, dispite the similar wording. When you "hack in", the target machine and you are having a conversation. If you just had to find a house analogy, it's more like having your house and the target house merged together through spacial dimension warp...
So, if you want to find a good analogy like this, think of this:
You are on a train, heading to work. There is a man sitting next to you, bumping up against you everytime the train lurches on the track, nothing abnormal, nothing that you really notice. The before you get off, he tells you, "Hi, I'm a doctor. While I was bumping up against you, I was secretly feeling your chest for lumps. I have found a massive tumor in your left breast. You are free to leave it there, but one of these days, it's going to kill you. I am an excellent cancer surgeon, and I will perform the operation (or show your regular doctors how to) for free."
Now, what is your response? Assuming the cancer really *is* there, is your first thought to have him arresed for sexual molestation? Do you curse him for trying to save your life? Would you rathar have found out this way, or would you have preferred to find out after the cancer has spread and it's too late?
If the NYT didn't have this good samartian helping them, then they would eventually have been in serious jeapordy. Considering how fickle the economy is these days, he may have saved thier lives (how much would it have cost them if they ran a ficticious, slanderous story, of if someone subtly re-wrote all the ads to make them look bad, or if their servers were used to host mountians of RIAA goodies, or if al-queda decided to use them as thier cyber commad post)?
I wouldn't feel like thanking someone who broke into my house while I was on vacation, nosed around in my papers, and then told me about my "security problem" when I returned home. Why would I, or any business, reward the same kind of behavior inside someone else's network? Both examples are, at minimum, illegal invasions of another's property.
Wrong analogy. Being "in" a machine is not the same thing as being "in" a house. Instead the analogy is more like a doctor looking at you via X-ray or physical examination. If you met a doctor on the train, and he could see by looking at you that you have the first stages of SARS, would you think to toss him in the slammer for letting you know it (and offering to help you cure it)? Or, like the NY Times, would you prefer to find out about it AFTER your lungs were filled with fluid and you were choking and wheezing on your death-bed?
Do you want to come home to your house, turn on the lights only to find someone sitting on your sofa waiting to explain to you how insecure your house is because he was easily able to pick the locks? Even if he does no damage to your house and steals nothing is that something you'd like to come home to?
And lime Lamo, would he be willing to help me install pick-proof locks? In that case, sure! It'd be great!
Here's one for you: Would you mind a doctor coming over to you on the train and telling you that he can see you have an operable cancer, and that he'd be willing to treat you for free? Or would you rathar find that out when you collapse on the floor as the tumor begins to press on a major artery?
The NY Times is 2 products; an offline and an online newspaper. You knock the online version out and you've killed half the products the company offers.
So, I'm confused... The guy actually helped prevent this kind of thing from happening in the future, so it sounds like you are agruing that the kids did right... right?
Does fedex count for mail fraud?
3. In the World of Darkness, vampires "have the strength of ten men." In Underworld, vampries "have the strength of ten men."
In my world they have the strength of ten go-rillas!
Seriously, though, how, exactly, is this not stolen directly from Anne Rice?
United States 14.24;
England and Wales 0.41;
Japan 0.05
And the sales figures for GTA: Vice City
United States: 5,221,935
England and Wales: 800,000 (extrapolating from full UK figures)
Japan: 0
Which just goes to prove that Take 2/Rockstar have a lot to answer for, the murdering scum.
These same figures may correlate interestingly with quality of dental care... Perhaps bearing those perfectly pearly white fangs stir up homicidal insticts?
It's no fun at all if the difficulty is becuase of a single puzzle that you KNOW how to complete, but can't because:
1) you have to constantly press buttons a random complicated sequence as fast as possible (jump from one spinning disk to the other through five screens while doging the robot lasers, no saving allowed at this point in the game).
2) you have to do long repetitive tasks over and over again (travel across the island, press a button, travel back flip a switch, travel back again press the second button, etc...) just to open a friggin' door.
3) figure out a puzzle that makes no logical sense (give the wrench to the fox and tell him to use it to bash the witch on the head)
4) figure out a puzzle that is complicated for the wrong reasons, or is so totally random that it is impossible to determine without the walkthrough guide (The secret code for the door lock can be found by taking the first letters of each name of the security staff, taking the greek equivlent of thos eletter, dividing by the floor that the elevator starts on in level 4 and then adding 3)
5) adding some kind of arcade-style game into your rpg-style game that is REQUIRED to progress pass a certian point (The king says, "in order to be my royal quard, you must first beat me at tiddlywinks!").
Making games challenging means you actually have to work at it. Dumping a puzzle that pulls you out of the story and takes ten frustrating days to solve doesn't make the game any more fun.
So after all these years he's still being pressured by big, pompous gas-bags? When will the guy get a break?
Customs has been advised that the servers did not contain personal, business-related or national security information.
Okayy.... So just what was on them, then?
They were completely empty. Completely. They never were used to and never inteded to be used, ever. Ever. Seriously. They were shut off since they were bought in 1982 and never, never, ever used for anything secret or anything. Especially not for anything secret at ALL... I SWEAR! This is a complete non-story, please stop asking about it. Nothing to see, nothing to write about, just normal EDS maintence contract gone wrong on some completely unused servers, pretty standard stuff. Here, look at the monkey.
The men, described as being of Pakistani-Indian-Arabic appearance
No no no! It's not like that at all... These men CLEARLY came from a mixed Pakistani, Indian and Arabic heratiage (20%/15%/65%, respectivly). What else are people who majored in Physical Anthropology in Austrailia going to do if they aren't going to schlep it as security guards? They have to make a living somehow, as there are only so many days that you can eat spit-roasted kangaroo in a row before you need a decent chicken wing or two...
Rapid touch typing like you are thinking can be a cause of carpel tunnel... So, if you have a choice between touch typing or cronic hand pain for the next 40 years, which one is it going to be?
With Rainbox Six, for example, they took a man, punched him *really hard* in various spots with a pole, and recorded him falling down. That simulates being shot.
Actually, I doubt this worked. I've seen people shot, and most of the time they just stand there for a second, totally unaware of what just happened, and the drop. A pole moves too slowly and will knock you down in a way that a bullet might not.
I have a wife and four kids and have been out of work for 2-1/2 months, but I'll clean toilets for a living before I'll stoop to threatening someone with violence to get a job.
And the managers and executives who laid you off so that they could raise the profit margin by half a percentage point and get themselves a nice fat raise will thank you for that service... After all, they're used to taking a dump on you, it's only logical that you'd clean it up for them too.
What does the RIAA have to say about you using their copyrighted material to generate music - music which is arguably not unique, but rather derivatives of their property?
Not much unless they want to start paying me for breathing in the air my plants expel... Just because you make something doesn't mean somone else can't use it if you are just giving it away for free... or at least one woul dhope for society's sake.
Someone in India can live off of $5000 a year, but an American can't even pay rent and utilities with that in a year.
If no one can their rent in America, the rent will go down.
Oddly, out here in San Francisco, the rents DIDN'T go down signifigantly once the dotcomer's left. They stayed nearly as high as they were for YEARS, the apartments completely empty, becuase real estate holders were hoping against hope that the rich people would return. They started laying off people instead of lowering thier rent prices. Even today there are daily layoffs at local title offices and rela estate agents. Sure, if you are willing to wait another 5-7 years, maybe the prices will become livable again, but 5-7 years is a loooong fucking time to out of a house.
Actually, that is the entire point of motion capture: It captues the fluidity of the actor exactly.
Actually, I see this as one of the main problems. Since the actors aren't really hurtling off 600 foot towers or doging real mini-missles fired by real mech commandos, the movements seem "wrong" somehow. They are all done in a green room with little reflective ping-pong balls which makes even the best actor lose some of his natural motivation. Without the set and scenery, he has a hard time "acting natural" and tends to overact, mime-like, to emphasize the things that are supposedly around him, but that he cannot see. So once the special effects are added in, he's making these big unnaturally sweeping gestures to pick up a pencil when an animator would never have done that, so the animation looks more "real" than the real life guy...
Do you know how many Americans pray out their deepest darkest secrets on their knees by their bedsides each night?
In America? This happens? Ooooh, you mean those two wierd guys, yeah I think they are all that're left.
You should be monitoring what your kid does in their free time.
Spoken like somebody who doesn't have kids.
Likewise, spoken by someone who SHOULDN'T have kids.
Of course, I still waste your bandwidth and mailbox capacity, but you no longer complain to uce@ftc.gov, my access providers, or anyone else who might cause me problems.
Actually, my email is set up to do exactly the opposite. Everything that SA tags as spam *automatically* gets forwarded to uce@ftc.gov without any effort by me.
One doesn't have to be John Ashcroft or Oral Roberts to believe that maybe six-year-olds don't need to learn the word "cocksucker."
You have a problem with roosters?
Well I think to do it legally from California, they would have to set up a "business presence" in Japan, which would mean paying a nice hefty sum to the Japanese governemnt (way more than my own salary is worth). I would certianly be willing to take a pay cut for them, they really are a great company, but I think it is more than an issue of just jumping through hoops.
and metal teeth. but why so short?
Well, in this case, they ARE mimicing 5-year olds, so breaking the five-foot barrier isn't much of an issue.
I must ponder this question: Before we create machines with human-level intelligence, shouldn't we first ask "why?".
As it is, we're running out of human jobs to do (McDonald's for example is toying with the idea of fully-automated vending machines), so what will happen when we can make machines that can work for almost nothing, and start replacing human jobs?
How about this.. Everybody replaced by a robot gets thier current salary paid for the next 20 years. Why would a company continue to pay you when a robot is working in your place? 24/7 workers are way better than 8/5 workers, and by looking like the "good guys" they don't have to worry about public or union backlah and end up getting a lot more utility out of thier workers for 1/3rd of the cost!
Well, it sounds logical to me and you, but supposedly it actually matter where you physically do the work, not where you live. I could easily keep an address here and do direct deposit, but the lawyers seem to think this wouldn't stop my company from getting sued by the labor office if they found out.