Sort of in-between the two is [yet] another Python project, Pylons.
Borrows from Rails most heavily in controller/routing/helper(prototype/scriptaculous) areas, and it's extremely flexible, supports whatever DB layer you want, template layer, and URL dispatch. It heavily uses WSGI but you can ignore that fact if you don't need or want to bother with it to start. It runs on top of Myghty which is a python port of Mason(perl) and runs some heavy sites like bittorrent.com.
Well your new pronunciation is actually closer to correct than the typical American version. So the wine store clerks were probably like "well at least he's making an effort..."
So will freakin' Verizon finally allow me to get "Naked DSL" if it's over fiber?
Right now I'm paying $20/mo for a dial tone. No features, no calling plan, nothing. ~ $9 for the dial tone, the rest taxes and [BS] fees. So my "more affordable" DSL costs the same as just getting Earthlink cable internet from TimeWarner.
As soon as I can get back to cable [or powerline, flying monkeys, whatever] I will...
A more impressive feat would be to get ISPs who do lots of low-end hosting to actually update from the 3.23.x series for starters... which would probably mean Redhat, Debian, etc. need to ship it. So those users will be seeing this version in... 2008 maybe. 2012. Right after Longhorn comes out.
Yeah this is a big clash of marketing cultures - Apple's (which they may be the only citizen of) vs. mobile phones, which are demo'd and announced often months ahead of release. Vastly different philosophies.
I'd bet Apple contractually stopped Moto from unveiling them - I doubt Moto would acquiesce out of kindness. This is the kind of thing Apple would have in legalese in any contract for someone featuring their software so prominently.
I think when you're trying to keep prices up and keep sales volume up, yes it might be too much to ask. I agree though, it's harder and harder to find a decent mobile phone that works well as a phone, first and foremost. Often you have to buy some super-fancy decked out version just to get a decent phone, but pay a huge premium for 45 features you don't want or need. Well, here's your market opening... get out the soldering gun.
Main examples being RedHat and SuSE (Novell). No fat penguins featured on those. And that's what many big companies buy, not boxes with fat tux's on them.
Techs just want things that work well, but once you start selling to execs it's gotta look professional as well. A fat cartoon penguin (or daemon) isn't high up in the 'professional software' design category.
I just want SOMETHING to happen to increase my broadband choices from the current "get ripped off by the cable monopoly, or the telco monopoly -- your choice!" situation.
And the telco's getting PA law changed so municipalities can't offer cheap broadband doesn't sound like a good start.
Both the NYT and WSJ performed substantial redesigns of their print editions over the past few years actually. Without losing their (built up over decades) identity.
They do it by making iterative and evolutionary changes (though the NYT finally using color ink was a bit revolutionary for them). The same could be done here without the site losing its character.
There's a whole world of this type of customization easily possible with clean CSS/XHTML.
User-selectable layouts, colors, fonts, font-size, etc. All without modifying any of the content, or adding a bunch of crap into the HTML.
The only people possibly disserved by this is anyone still using Netscape 4.x, who should be barred from using a computer anyway. If it's a company policy, try a proxy and and/or use Lynx from an external box! Or just don't bother.
Well that's one of the key reasons to convert it - an alternate stylesheet can be provided for PDAs, though I don't know if any actually use it -- but more importantly it will lay out in clean text and respect the semantic structure, showing headlines (H tags), paragraphs, lists, etc., so all the freaks here could check it on their phones and such constantly and it should be good and readable.
While I can understand expressions of relief that this may free non-MS OS users from the annoyance, the bigger danger is, as with all things MS, a large amount of content is only made available in "Sparkle" format.
This hasn't happened to a large degree with Flash, but I don't think Macromedia is as skilled (or rich) in the embrace/extend/extinguish or plain old LOCK OUT strategies MS specializes in. So careful what you wish for!
If you check out the dev's site he said he's gonna get working on it, hasn't set up 10.3 yet. I believe some have theorized it's due to upping gcc from 3.1 to 3.3. Or something along those lines...
It's a showstopper for me as well, but all the other problems arising are also now a showstopper. I think I'm waiting for 10.3.1.
It will be standards-compliant to its specified version number. If you're compliant with HTML 4.01 today, you will be 5 years from now even if the current spec is XHTML 23. You may not be up-to-date, but you're compliant with the specified version, and a client will be able to render the page with the appropriate DTD and so forth. (afaik)
The book clearly states your message - and multiple ways of insuring it, using the w3c validator, and tools such as HTML Tidy; also accessibility guidelines (required for gov't sites for example)
A main strength of the book and something that separates it from every other design or tech book is its focus on the PRACTICAL BUSINESS REASONS for being standards-compliant, not just the warm fuzzy feeling.
And I think he makes the case much better than nearly every programming book that claims you'll save time and money using language X.
I would guess (not being or working with architects) that at least for the good ones/firms, this phase of a project is fundamental -- a key part, unlike the situation with most business software roll-outs, not to mention development.
Maybe a result of less people in between the "producer" and "consumer"?
I think this was answered above somewhere -- basically, the people "using" game software are the purchasers of it - VERY rarely the case with business software.
There are all kinds of differences between dealing with something you got yourself into and something that was mandated - frequently mandated by someone very unfamiliar with the requirements of the "worker bee's" position. And as a (usually) technical person purchasing the business software, they will understandably purchase based on how they assess things - analytically and on technical merits (or ok, features, which are not necessarily related).
This habit (purchasing based on a quantitative basis) is likely strengthened by its self-supporting characteristics when the ol' CYA game comes into play - "But I spec'd out the BEST software, it does way more than that other one!"
Well first off, unix was never built for security either if I remember my history (somewhat) correctly. It's just been around way longer.
Also, achieving more than 90% market share, shady tactics and all, indicates they made the correct business decision by charging ahead and not sitting around and designing the perfectly architected OS.
Don't most of those end up languishing in research labs for decades?
Ideally the market leader would be the *best* product, but people's idea of best varies greatly depending on their needs.
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Sort of in-between the two is [yet] another Python project, Pylons. Borrows from Rails most heavily in controller/routing/helper(prototype/scriptaculous) areas, and it's extremely flexible, supports whatever DB layer you want, template layer, and URL dispatch. It heavily uses WSGI but you can ignore that fact if you don't need or want to bother with it to start. It runs on top of Myghty which is a python port of Mason(perl) and runs some heavy sites like bittorrent.com.
"The firm said it has identified the source of the outbreak and fixed the problem."
So they're not running Windows anymore? ha.
Well your new pronunciation is actually closer to correct than the typical American version. So the wine store clerks were probably like "well at least he's making an effort..."
So will freakin' Verizon finally allow me to get "Naked DSL" if it's over fiber?
Right now I'm paying $20/mo for a dial tone. No features, no calling plan, nothing. ~ $9 for the dial tone, the rest taxes and [BS] fees. So my "more affordable" DSL costs the same as just getting Earthlink cable internet from TimeWarner.
As soon as I can get back to cable [or powerline, flying monkeys, whatever] I will...
Good to hear about RHEL 4. How about Debian stable? (hahahaha! joking...)
A more impressive feat would be to get ISPs who do lots of low-end hosting to actually update from the 3.23.x series for starters... which would probably mean Redhat, Debian, etc. need to ship it. So those users will be seeing this version in... 2008 maybe. 2012. Right after Longhorn comes out.
Yeah this is a big clash of marketing cultures - Apple's (which they may be the only citizen of) vs. mobile phones, which are demo'd and announced often months ahead of release. Vastly different philosophies.
I'd bet Apple contractually stopped Moto from unveiling them - I doubt Moto would acquiesce out of kindness. This is the kind of thing Apple would have in legalese in any contract for someone featuring their software so prominently.
Mentioning PPC gives an Apple topic automatically?
I think when you're trying to keep prices up and keep sales volume up, yes it might be too much to ask. I agree though, it's harder and harder to find a decent mobile phone that works well as a phone, first and foremost. Often you have to buy some super-fancy decked out version just to get a decent phone, but pay a huge premium for 45 features you don't want or need. Well, here's your market opening... get out the soldering gun.
Main examples being RedHat and SuSE (Novell). No fat penguins featured on those. And that's what many big companies buy, not boxes with fat tux's on them.
Techs just want things that work well, but once you start selling to execs it's gotta look professional as well. A fat cartoon penguin (or daemon) isn't high up in the 'professional software' design category.
It's not iKeynote is it? I think they separate their "productivity" apps this way.
I just want SOMETHING to happen to increase my broadband choices from the current "get ripped off by the cable monopoly, or the telco monopoly -- your choice!" situation.
And the telco's getting PA law changed so municipalities can't offer cheap broadband doesn't sound like a good start.
Both the NYT and WSJ performed substantial redesigns of their print editions over the past few years actually. Without losing their (built up over decades) identity.
They do it by making iterative and evolutionary changes (though the NYT finally using color ink was a bit revolutionary for them). The same could be done here without the site losing its character.
There's a whole world of this type of customization easily possible with clean CSS/XHTML.
User-selectable layouts, colors, fonts, font-size, etc. All without modifying any of the content, or adding a bunch of crap into the HTML.
The only people possibly disserved by this is anyone still using Netscape 4.x, who should be barred from using a computer anyway. If it's a company policy, try a proxy and and/or use Lynx from an external box! Or just don't bother.
Well that's one of the key reasons to convert it - an alternate stylesheet can be provided for PDAs, though I don't know if any actually use it -- but more importantly it will lay out in clean text and respect the semantic structure, showing headlines (H tags), paragraphs, lists, etc., so all the freaks here could check it on their phones and such constantly and it should be good and readable.
While I can understand expressions of relief that this may free non-MS OS users from the annoyance, the bigger danger is, as with all things MS, a large amount of content is only made available in "Sparkle" format.
This hasn't happened to a large degree with Flash, but I don't think Macromedia is as skilled (or rich) in the embrace/extend/extinguish or plain old LOCK OUT strategies MS specializes in. So careful what you wish for!
If you check out the dev's site he said he's gonna get working on it, hasn't set up 10.3 yet. I believe some have theorized it's due to upping gcc from 3.1 to 3.3. Or something along those lines...
It's a showstopper for me as well, but all the other problems arising are also now a showstopper. I think I'm waiting for 10.3.1.
Well don't tell his wife, he got married lately. (Congrats!)
It will be standards-compliant to its specified version number. If you're compliant with HTML 4.01 today, you will be 5 years from now even if the current spec is XHTML 23. You may not be up-to-date, but you're compliant with the specified version, and a client will be able to render the page with the appropriate DTD and so forth. (afaik)
The book clearly states your message - and multiple ways of insuring it, using the w3c validator, and tools such as HTML Tidy; also accessibility guidelines (required for gov't sites for example)
A main strength of the book and something that separates it from every other design or tech book is its focus on the PRACTICAL BUSINESS REASONS for being standards-compliant, not just the warm fuzzy feeling.
And I think he makes the case much better than nearly every programming book that claims you'll save time and money using language X.
He also has an excellent list of related resources and links on design and accessibility:
http://zeldman.com/externals/
I would guess (not being or working with architects) that at least for the good ones/firms, this phase of a project is fundamental -- a key part, unlike the situation with most business software roll-outs, not to mention development.
Maybe a result of less people in between the "producer" and "consumer"?
I think this was answered above somewhere -- basically, the people "using" game software are the purchasers of it - VERY rarely the case with business software.
There are all kinds of differences between dealing with something you got yourself into and something that was mandated - frequently mandated by someone very unfamiliar with the requirements of the "worker bee's" position. And as a (usually) technical person purchasing the business software, they will understandably purchase based on how they assess things - analytically and on technical merits (or ok, features, which are not necessarily related).
This habit (purchasing based on a quantitative basis) is likely strengthened by its self-supporting characteristics when the ol' CYA game comes into play - "But I spec'd out the BEST software, it does way more than that other one!"
Well first off, unix was never built for security either if I remember my history (somewhat) correctly. It's just been around way longer.
Also, achieving more than 90% market share, shady tactics and all, indicates they made the correct business decision by charging ahead and not sitting around and designing the perfectly architected OS.
Don't most of those end up languishing in research labs for decades?
Ideally the market leader would be the *best* product, but people's idea of best varies greatly depending on their needs.