very interesting. while the usa is probably the most surveilled western country this is not beeing standard already? this is standard here in switzerland since years...
...but I assume in your case you should probably have a look at something backed by a commercial company which will take the hassle to certify the system and your workflows. Have a look at Alfresco (alfresco.com) which already has some certifications (e.g. http://www.alfresco.com/media/releases/2009/10/records-management/).
...of a company which built a datacenter in the late nineties into an old swiss army bunker in the swiss alps. they even made a promotional video with the traditional heidi topic.
you can have a look at it here. internet-hype at it's finest...:)
the company (mount10) does not exist anymore but the datacenter still does and is beeing actively used by Swiss Fort Knox...:)
> There is an infite amount - you only need money to maintain > the structure and people to run it
hmm... i am not sure what i should answer to this. i just can guess you never worked in an serviceprovider environment.
every equipment and technology is limited to a certain amount of bandwidth. with every generation of equipment or technology the amount is raising, but since the equipment is getting every thing than cheaper how should a serviceprovider amortise his invests when the consumers will not pay more?
and a real problem in the backbone is that aggregating 10GigE-Links technically and financially just does not work out while the next-gen standard 100GigE is not jet completely specified...
CMIIW, but Force10 produces some bad-ass 10G-Switches which are more and more adopted at IXPs, but I did not heard of them to produce core internet routers yet...
> If you were to use all of those blacklists at > once, you will have blocked out nearly every > major hosting firm in the USA, and a good chunk > of the world.
Sure you will do. But I do not think the lists are intended to be used in that way and its surely not goot idea to do so.
But imagine this: You are constantly abused by customers of one specific ISP and you do not get any help or reply from its abuse department. You now have useful reconnaissance information for your defenses and are able to block that specific ISPs "customers" without hurting the rest of your system.
Also you can use for example the country lists for influencing spamcop decisions. If you are pretty sure you (and/or your customers) will never get any mails from asia for example you can assign a specific score for that check and so push the overall-score in the right direction. This is quite similar like to prefer some languages over others.
take a look at mount10 (http://www.mount10.ch/index-e.html). they offer their "data fortress" for some years now here in switzerland (where every mountain has holes like swiss chees;).
Here it is possible for AFIAK about a year now. I have some friends which switch operaters. The main reason was mostly the call costs. As far as I know we still have the highest minute-rates of Europe...:(
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...that's one major source for password-cracking rainbowtables... :-)
very interesting. while the usa is probably the most surveilled western country this is not beeing standard already? this is standard here in switzerland since years...
...but I assume in your case you should probably have a look at something backed by a commercial company which will take the hassle to certify the system and your workflows. Have a look at Alfresco (alfresco.com) which already has some certifications (e.g. http://www.alfresco.com/media/releases/2009/10/records-management/).
...of a company which built a datacenter in the late nineties into an old swiss army bunker in the swiss alps. they even made a promotional video with the traditional heidi topic.
:)
:)
you can have a look at it here. internet-hype at it's finest...
the company (mount10) does not exist anymore but the datacenter still does and is beeing actively used by Swiss Fort Knox...
> There is an infite amount - you only need money to maintain
> the structure and people to run it
hmm... i am not sure what i should answer to this. i just can guess you never worked in an serviceprovider environment.
every equipment and technology is limited to a certain amount of bandwidth. with every generation of equipment or technology the amount is raising, but since the equipment is getting every thing than cheaper how should a serviceprovider amortise his invests when the consumers will not pay more?
and a real problem in the backbone is that aggregating 10GigE-Links technically and financially just does not work out while the next-gen standard 100GigE is not jet completely specified...
now tell me: how should they charge less?
> Cisco has some of the most stable operating systems.
Ah, yeah. I am not sure, but it seems you never really worked with Cisco gear in an serviceprovider world...
I just have one word for you: CEF-Bug
CMIIW, but Force10 produces some bad-ass 10G-Switches which are more and more adopted at IXPs, but I did not heard of them to produce core internet routers yet...
how about importing them by yourself: http://liksang.com/
I have a few friends who ordererd them to Switzerland. No problems so far...
cheers
roman
> If you were to use all of those blacklists at
> once, you will have blocked out nearly every
> major hosting firm in the USA, and a good chunk
> of the world.
Sure you will do. But I do not think the lists are intended to be used in that way and its surely not goot idea to do so.
But imagine this: You are constantly abused by customers of one specific ISP and you do not get any help or reply from its abuse department. You now have useful reconnaissance information for your defenses and are able to block that specific ISPs "customers" without hurting the rest of your system.
Also you can use for example the country lists for influencing spamcop decisions. If you are pretty sure you (and/or your customers) will never get any mails from asia for example you can assign a specific score for that check and so push the overall-score in the right direction. This is quite similar like to prefer some languages over others.
> Think before you block...
I second that!
take a look at mount10 (http://www.mount10.ch/index-e.html). they offer their "data fortress" for some years now here in switzerland (where every mountain has holes like swiss chees ;).
Yes, where's the primer about Traci? :)
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sida=03/04/26/23542 45&mode=thread&tid=133&tid=186
Here it is possible for AFIAK about a year now. I have some friends which switch operaters. The main reason was mostly the call costs. As far as I know we still have the highest minute-rates of Europe... :(
Yes!