its what you like to believe, some say a zillion party democracy (Like most of Europe) is the best way to handle things, some say a two party system is best (The US, in practice).
Some even think one of those "Great Dictator's" is the best. Them silly really.
I have to give MS two thumbs down. Sure, the security is improving, the SUS server is a nice tool.
But what bugs me beyond belief is the amazing lack of information it gives.
SUS out of the box does not:
- Client cannot be controlled, you cant use Windows update to update your system NOW, you will have to rely on reghacks, and stopping and starting services, to make sure your system will be updated in approx 15 minutes..
That is crap, Im the sysadmin, I want to make sure that the system is updated NOW.
- The SUS Server has no simple reporting -who-, -when- and if successfull or not, of events like a client connected and pulled updates.
This is even more crap, I cannot scan the server for activity from clients, unless I go digging in cryptic log files, which are not identified in the MS docs about SUS anyway.
Sure, there is a smart guys script that does that, which involves installing stuff for IIS, without properly explaining how and where. Again unacceptable.
It is that Nachio blasted our network away that we HAVE to be protected so I use it.
But Im very dissapointed in the lack of control and information it gives.
THATS my gripes with MS, stop listing to the damn users already!@ And start listing to the sorrow admins, like me.
NOT just for security in press, but for the daily lives of their admins. After all THEY need to understand whats happening, THATS the basis of REAL security.
G. R. (Rocky) Bush Jr. will announce the destruction of earth as we know it. Nessicary to "strike the final blow to terrorism" were a few Multimega Atomics, that will have the side-effet of disrupting Earth's core.
No problem however, as the mars mission successfully put a man, and a woman on Mars (Both 100% American Mayflower descendants) to ensure "The American Way of Life"
Netware!? Blasfemy! Surely the market has already decided that NT 4.0 + Exchange is a superior product!
Exchange ownz the SMB market, and the MCSE training I had, had this specific question: Exchange is right up there with Notes, and Groupwise! Also, my NCA exams, did NOT contain a question bout what software is regarded a groupware product, so the MS exam MUST be right!
And all types of MS machines are fileservers, after all they invented network sharing, so "netware" can only be a cheap ripoff of MS IP.
-Sigh-, does anyone here even _remember_ LAN manager? Oh those good ole days, where OS'ses where like, compatibel.
DNA id's are composed of junk-DNA strains. They contain NO information on individuals that we are aware of. Its not like they keep a _complete_ DNA picture of you.
Thats the way media portays it. That however is not the way anti-violance activists are seeing it.
THEY are seeing an overly violence-fascinated culture (American first, Western Second) which LEADS to massive violence exposure on Young Kids, which MAY VERY WELL lead to a violence-fascinated grown individual.
It is very clear that Gamez, are at the spearpoint of this cultural phenomenon, and true, the Kill Billz are too.
But when you start fighting The Holly Reich, you loose.
Gamerz, hacksorz, Intarwebby are just easier targets, but the prob is our culture.
But he, why listen to Micheal Moore eh? Left wing nutter pinky commy anti American and what not.
"somebody should hack up a compatible layer for other Unixes"
Hardly possible, since "the other Unix's" might (in SCO case are) be closed source.
Reverse engineering is not trivial, just ask the Wine folks.
The other way around is quite common, SCO and AIX both offer LKP's (Linux Kernel Personalities) , and thus are binary compatible. Thanks to the Open Source nature of Linux, SCO and IBM can do it easy.
So the crap is on us, they can run Linux bins, we cannot run SCO's. Not that this is tremendously important, even Progress forecasts all their apps will be on Linux some time.
Not all progress soft is avail for Linux.. yet. Notably missing are some Oracle connection tools. Im the admin, dont ask me programming specifics.;-)
The reason we run SCO is that a vast majority of our customers run SCO. Legacy and all that.
And no, to my knowladge and exp SCO (at least Open Server) is lightyears behind Linux and contains nothing Linux doesnt do better.
We may even not go Linux, but will support it if customers ask. Instead we might opt for the cheapo's RS6000/AIX route. And step away from Intel as our main platform.
The ability to run Windows is no argument for us, as customers usually buy the complete setup, machine, apps, service and support for the complete life of the hardware.
Reliability is the No1 sales argument in selling our stuff. And Linux _may_ be reliable (We know it is for our firewalls and webservers) but we _know_ AIX is for progress.
Dont forget, that untill the whole mess started, SCO was considered the _only_ (commercial) unix that was worth anything on intel.
I can totally understand the move, first get Linux recognized as great phat iron OS, succesfull in the server market will automagically mean in a year or two (around the K.O. to sco...) some stable desktops will be around, and in the picture too.
He should actually GET the PR officer thou, unlike the statement in the intro I might add, I believe even these answered needed it.
My MOTHER told me today "Oh leenox, thats now not gratis anymore eh?"
This "no desktop" thing should have brought slower and more carefull, and in complete different wording, we should have been told RH Desktop was now "free", not "not there", and Fedora should have been pushed way better and earlier. FIRST you present alternatives, THEN you rip out a product.. Stupid, stupid.
Thats stupid and dangerous thinking. A scientist should consider NOT the consequences of science as a matter of MUST. For a scientist only Science is a MUST. ALL science has good and potentially bad consequences. Trying to "debate" Science into a "less dangerous" direction is both a fallacy and censor invoking mind control device.
"When information is recorded, higher voltages at certain points in the circuit grid would "blow" the PEDOT fuses at those points. As a result, data is permanently etched into the device. A blown fuse would from then on be read as a zero, while an unblown one that lets current pass through is read as a one."
Like a sculpturing, the trick is to carefully -remove- unneeded bits. The program, like the sculpture, is already there waiting to get unraveled.
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Mostly,
its what you like to believe, some say a zillion party democracy (Like most of Europe) is the best way to handle things, some say a two party system is best (The US, in practice).
Some even think one of those "Great Dictator's" is the best. Them silly really.
peace
"/Dread"
Man....
Any clue what that means for your internet connection?
Imagine a few hundred users trying to connect and pull a few multi megabyte updates from the Windows Update Server.
This is why the SUS product was -made- in the first place...
"/Dread"
Where?
"/Dread"
I have to give MS two thumbs down.
Sure, the security is improving, the SUS server is a nice tool.
But what bugs me beyond belief is the amazing lack of information it gives.
SUS out of the box does not:
- Client cannot be controlled, you cant use Windows update to update your system NOW, you will have to rely on reghacks, and stopping and starting services, to make sure your system will be updated in approx 15 minutes..
That is crap, Im the sysadmin, I want to make sure that the system is updated NOW.
- The SUS Server has no simple reporting -who-, -when- and if successfull or not, of events like a client connected and pulled updates.
This is even more crap, I cannot scan the server for activity from clients, unless I go digging in cryptic log files, which are not identified in the MS docs about SUS anyway.
Sure, there is a smart guys script that does that, which involves installing stuff for IIS, without properly explaining how and where. Again unacceptable.
It is that Nachio blasted our network away that we HAVE to be protected so I use it.
But Im very dissapointed in the lack of control and information it gives.
THATS my gripes with MS, stop listing to the damn users already!@ And start listing to the sorrow admins, like me.
NOT just for security in press, but for the daily lives of their admins. After all THEY need to understand whats happening, THATS the basis of REAL security.
"/Dread"
G. R. (Rocky) Bush Jr. will announce the destruction of earth as we know it. Nessicary to "strike the final blow to terrorism" were a few Multimega Atomics, that will have the side-effet of disrupting Earth's core.
No problem however, as the mars mission successfully put a man, and a woman on Mars (Both 100% American Mayflower descendants) to ensure "The American Way of Life"
"/Dread"
Netware!? Blasfemy!
Surely the market has already decided that NT 4.0 + Exchange is a superior product!
Exchange ownz the SMB market, and the MCSE training I had, had this specific question: Exchange is right up there with Notes, and Groupwise!
Also, my NCA exams, did NOT contain a question bout what software is regarded a groupware product, so the MS exam MUST be right!
And all types of MS machines are fileservers, after all they invented network sharing, so "netware" can only be a cheap ripoff of MS IP.
-Sigh-, does anyone here even _remember_ LAN manager? Oh those good ole days, where OS'ses where like, compatibel.
"/Dread"
Ok, so Harry Potter is lame (well not the books, but..), but robots are cool!
I want to build my own Asimo dammit!
Seriously, there should be some market for "lego for grownuppers" where they can hookup play thingies to comp thingies.
"/Dread"
Macy's wont come storming your house pretending to be police, when you are a shoplifting suspect, thats what.
"/Dread"
This GOT to be the coolest thing!
Imagine a mob of Slashdotters, in yellow and black embrazed GNU/FSF TASK FORCE bulletproof vests storming the SCO offices!
"We are PRO's! We HAVE to see your code NOW!"
"/Dread"
Ehh,
Because we understand statistics better?
"/Dread"
DNA id's are composed of junk-DNA strains.
They contain NO information on individuals that we are aware of.
Its not like they keep a _complete_ DNA picture of you.
"/Dread"
Thats the way media portays it. That however is not the way anti-violance activists are seeing it.
THEY are seeing an overly violence-fascinated culture (American first, Western Second) which LEADS to massive violence exposure on Young Kids, which MAY VERY WELL lead to a violence-fascinated grown individual.
It is very clear that Gamez, are at the spearpoint of this cultural phenomenon, and true, the Kill Billz are too.
But when you start fighting The Holly Reich, you loose.
Gamerz, hacksorz, Intarwebby are just easier targets, but the prob is our culture.
But he, why listen to Micheal Moore eh? Left wing nutter pinky commy anti American and what not.
"/Dread"
Dang,
I hate cliffhangers, now I have to return for tomorrow's episode...
"/Dread"
Buh-bull
"Im a anti-mac"
"/Dread"
U forgot OMG...
"/Dread"
You sound like a millionaire who is _about_ to loose his job, and goes stealing bread and butter in advance.
No choice my a$$
"/Dread"
"somebody should hack up a compatible layer for other Unixes"
Hardly possible, since "the other Unix's" might (in SCO case are) be closed source.
Reverse engineering is not trivial, just ask the Wine folks.
The other way around is quite common, SCO and AIX both offer LKP's (Linux Kernel Personalities) , and thus are binary compatible.
Thanks to the Open Source nature of Linux, SCO and IBM can do it easy.
So the crap is on us, they can run Linux bins, we cannot run SCO's. Not that this is tremendously important, even Progress forecasts all their apps will be on Linux some time.
"/Dread"
Not all progress soft is avail for Linux.. yet. Notably missing are some Oracle connection tools. ;-)
Im the admin, dont ask me programming specifics.
The reason we run SCO is that a vast majority of our customers run SCO. Legacy and all that.
And no, to my knowladge and exp SCO (at least Open Server) is lightyears behind Linux and contains nothing Linux doesnt do better.
We may even not go Linux, but will support it if customers ask. Instead we might opt for the cheapo's RS6000/AIX route. And step away from Intel as our main platform.
The ability to run Windows is no argument for us, as customers usually buy the complete setup, machine, apps, service and support for the complete life of the hardware.
Reliability is the No1 sales argument in selling our stuff. And Linux _may_ be reliable (We know it is for our firewalls and webservers) but we _know_ AIX is for progress.
Dont forget, that untill the whole mess started, SCO was considered the _only_ (commercial) unix that was worth anything on intel.
HTH "/Dread"
We use and sell SCO to run progress db apps.
We have made plans to switch away from it.
"/Dread"
"Why do you think a corporation deserves market protection from cheap foreign goods if they're exploiting the lack of labor protection?"
Why do YOU think it is needed to change the law to have luxury laws like "labour protection" WHEN THERE IS NO LUXURY?
Chicken, egg, I say give em some egg's first.
"/Dread"
Absolutely.
Reminds me of this statistic "The older people get, the higher their expectated life-span is"
What a coincidink eh?
"/Dread"
He is *so* correct, I have enjoyed The Hitch hiker's Guide SO much on my palm.
"/Dread"
I can totally understand the move, first get Linux recognized as great phat iron OS, succesfull in the server market will automagically mean in a year or two (around the K.O. to sco...) some stable desktops will be around, and in the picture too.
He should actually GET the PR officer thou, unlike the statement in the intro I might add, I believe even these answered needed it.
My MOTHER told me today "Oh leenox, thats now not gratis anymore eh?"
This "no desktop" thing should have brought slower and more carefull, and in complete different wording, we should have been told RH Desktop was now "free", not "not there", and Fedora should have been pushed way better and earlier. FIRST you present alternatives, THEN you rip out a product.. Stupid, stupid.
"/Dread"
Bulldroppings.
Thats stupid and dangerous thinking.
A scientist should consider NOT the consequences of science as a matter of MUST. For a scientist only Science is a MUST.
ALL science has good and potentially bad consequences. Trying to "debate" Science into a "less dangerous" direction is both a fallacy and censor invoking mind control device.
"/Dread"
"When information is recorded, higher voltages at certain points in the circuit grid would "blow" the PEDOT fuses at those points. As a result, data is permanently etched into the device. A blown fuse would from then on be read as a zero, while an unblown one that lets current pass through is read as a one."
Like a sculpturing, the trick is to carefully -remove- unneeded bits. The program, like the sculpture, is already there waiting to get unraveled.
"/Dread"