So the providers do this.. The ISP I work for (and others) decideds not to do it, everyone swarms to us.. we make money.. the other guys screw themselves.. yeah how does this help Verizon, et all?
Where are you getting your bandwidth from? Ultimately you have to pay Verizon or whoever your local telco monopoly is so you can resell it to your customers. If they only sell you tiered access, then you have to resell the tiered access, or try and make up the difference with volume.
Right. Care to share your wonderful routing algorithm that will allow you to insert a random IP into the middle of a network?
Called a routing table. Might take a few hours for the update to propagate.
Sorry, but that's not the way routing tables work, or IP for that matter. The Internet is not a single network, but is a set of inter-connected networks, connected by gateways, a.k.a. routers. An IP host can only send a packet to another host on the same network, or to a gateway. How does a host know if the other host is on the same network? By looking at the IP address. But if you start assigning IP address to hosts randomly, then the network concept has no meaning.
Gateways route packets from one network to another using a routing table; they do not map hosts. While you might be able to come up with an algorithm to route packets to arbitrary IP addresses, it wouldn't be using IP. If you don't believe me, try setting up a "network" of 3 hosts using these IP addresses: 192.168.1.90, 172.16.8.8, and 10.0.1.9. I believe you'll find that you need a gateway with 3 interfaces, one for each network.
Yes, let's dispense with acronyms altogether. I, for one, am much too busy to try and decipher all these acronyms. I have to finish converting all my documentation to Hyper-Text-Markup-Language, then I have to debug our Terminal-Control-Protocol/Internet-Protocol stack to figure out why some Hyper-Text-Transfer-Protocol connections are being dropped. And our File-Transfer-Protocol server is on the fritz, so my boss decided we need to put all our documents on a windows fileserver and access them with System-Message-Block.
Meanwhile, my coworkers are busy porting one of our old Disk-Operating-System applications to windows New-Technology. And our Internet-Technology staff is busy trying to stop a Denial-of-Service attack against our Distributed-Name-System servers.
I've got to get all this finished by 4:00 today, so I can renew my United-States passport before going on a Self-Contained-Underwater-Breathing-Apparatus trip this weekend. Not to mention the new Digital-Video-Disc I need to pick up for my son.
As for the gpl/lgpl thing, i was just answering to the article:
" he carefully made sure the proprietary code in his system would only be dynamically linked to the GPL-protected code."
So why is cable so radically different than broadcast television that you would allow something on one, but not the other?
As others have said, the FCC only regulates broadcast, not cable. The interesting thing to note about this is that cable networks can, from a legal standpoint, show pretty much whatever they want. This includes the non-subscription cable networks like MTV, USA, SciFi, etc. Like broadcast, though, non-subscription cable networks rely on advertising for revenue, so they have to keep their sponsors happy. The reason you don't (often) see nudity on MTV or USA is not because of government regulation, but because the networks don't want to risk offending their advertisers and losing revenue. Premium networks like HBO or Showtime get all their revenue from subscriptions, and so don't have to worry about offending an advertiser.
That's also why South Park, for instance, can get away with some of the things they do. It's not the FCC they need to worry about, but the advertisers.
Sorry, but learning to click a mouse is a lot easier than learning "mount -t ntfs/dev/hdc1/mnt/windows"
So? Typing "copy file1.txt file2.txt" is a lot easier to learn than double-clicking My Computer, then double-clicking each directory in the hierarchy until you get to the right one, then right-clicking on file1, selecting Copy, then right-clicking the directory name, clicking Paste, then entering file2.txt. Contrived examples do not prove either point.
Says who? A lot of GUIs are not end-user friendly either. Just because some CLI programs require the user to know arcane options does not mean that the CLI itself is broken. In fact, there is anecdotal evidence to suggest that the command line is easier to learn for people who have never used computers before.
Click a picture with a music note flowing into a CD, you burn your CD. That's much easier than " CD_DA TRACK AUDIO FILE "secret-pregap.wav" START FILE "track1.wav""
Come on, you have to do more than click an icon. At the very least, you have to select which files you want to burn from a list. More likely, you drag and drop the files you want to burn. That's easy for you, but not necessarily intuitive to someone who's never used a mouse before. With a CLI, a you at least have the option to write a script. Aunt Tillie might find it easier to type "burn file1.wav" than figure out which mouse button to press, and which icons to drag where.
I'm not sure what the maximum Virtual Desktops is, but 4 is default I think
No, you misunderstand. I have 4 workspaces, and each workspace has 4 virtual desktops. Granted, it's a very subtle difference betweeen just having 16 virtual desktops, but it's a nice thing to have.
So it really sounds like it does just boil down to liking what you're used to.
That's most of it, yes.
I haven't seen any answers yet that indicate AS does anything WM doesn't.
I haven't seen another pager that has the same functionality as afterstep's. I can see at a glance where all my windows are, and the title of each window (well, most of it anyway, but if you mouse over the window in the pager, the full title of the window shows in a popup).
Mostly you're right, this is just a subtle nicety that I've become accustomed to. But I haven't seen it anywhere else.
I understand all that, but all of it could be said for WindowMaker too, which seems to run a bit faster and 'slicker' if you will... for me at least. Just was curious what you might see as a positive difference between the two.
I've been running AfterStep for about 6 years now. The biggest difference, to me, between AS and WM is in how the virtual desktops are managed. AS has a pager, and it also has a concept of viewports within desktops. It's hard to explain, but think of a workspace that has 4 virtual desktops inside it. You can switch to a different virtual desktop with a keystroke, a mouse click, or by moving the mouse pointer off the edge of the screen. You can move windows to a different desktop by dragging it off the screen, or by dragging it in the pager (there are other ways, but these are what I do the most).
I know that you can now use the Blackbox pager in WM, but AS is what I'm used to, and I see no reason to switch.
The biggest problem with the Kernel guys redoing it, is now they can be considered 'tainted'.
I don't think this matters. Copyright law prevents you from making a copy, but it does not prevent you from "writing it in your own words", just like when you turned in book reports in school.
People are using LINUX and other pieces of the software because they are TOO cheap to pay for Windows. Sure some folks say it is for other reasons. AND if you are paying for Windows or MacOSX then why would you use the software in question?
I don't know where you got this idea. Where I work, all the developers have boxes that came preinstalled with either win2k or XP. Mine runs linux, and I have the nice shiny XP disc and license in my desk drawer, unused.
At home, my computer came preinstalled with windows 98. I paid for it, and it is itemized on my bill. It also dual boots to linux. In fact, it would be more correct to call it a linux box which dual boots to windows 98 for games.
I use linux because I think it is better than windows, not because it is free.
jmorris does have a valid point here: the design of the ssh2 protocol makes it impossible to forward RSA/DSA user credentials to any party other than the party you have connected to.
I never said otherwise. I said a successful MITM attack could still get valuable or sensitive information, even if you use RSA authentication.
Even if you use SSH2, you are still vulnerable to MITM attacks if you blindly type "yes" whenever you get the big scary warning about the host key changing.
Yes, but the post I was replying to was ranting about man in the middle attacks that would affect affect "anyone using SSH"
I wasn't ranting. What I said was "a successful man-in-the-middle attack will affect anyone using SSH, whether they use passwords, RSA keys, or anything else". Maybe I could have been a little more careful with my wording, but the post I was replying to was claiming that only people who use passwords for SSH would be affected by a MITM attack. To which I pointed out that a successful MITM attack would affect any user.
and I contend that anyone who gets nailed after their ssh client throws up a big scary "Someone may be attempting a man in the middle attack...." warning kinda deserves to get screwed into the ground.
Well, yes, that was the whole point of my post. Again, maybe I should have been a little clearer in my wording, instead of assuming that people on Slashdot actually read the whole thread before spouting off a condescending reply. The post I replied to claimed "that only affects those who use passwords for SSH", in reply to this post, which was about people who reflexively type "yes" to the "big scary" warning. This claim is not correct; even if you use RSA or DSA authentication, you are still vulnerable to a MITM attack if you blindly type "yes" to the big scary warning about the host key changing.
If you make it then you are the copyright holder. If you make it for someone else you are still the copyright holder but the person who contracted you can use your work as the contract states. If you are employed then your work belongs to your employer.
Not necessarily. The US Copyright Act allows for "Work for Hire" contracts, in which the copyright for a work goes to the employer who hired the creator to make the work, not to the creator. It all depends on the contract.
I would imagine that most musical artists hold the copyright to their own music.
I'm not going to do the legwork for you, but I imagine you are mistaken.
Well, maybe a little legwork. Start here and here.
You. "Pullet Surprise" was clearly a joke. It's too funny to be a real mistake:)
Well, I'm really confused then. Yes, it was clearly a joke. And not only that, it is a very old joke. That's why I thought it ironic that the original poster didn't get such an obvious joke while calling the person who said it a moron. What am I missing?
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Where are you getting your bandwidth from? Ultimately you have to pay Verizon or whoever your local telco monopoly is so you can resell it to your customers. If they only sell you tiered access, then you have to resell the tiered access, or try and make up the difference with volume.
I think you need to look up the definitions of irony and sarcasm.
Hint: they're synonyms :-)
Sorry, but that's not the way routing tables work, or IP for that matter. The Internet is not a single network, but is a set of inter-connected networks, connected by gateways, a.k.a. routers. An IP host can only send a packet to another host on the same network, or to a gateway. How does a host know if the other host is on the same network? By looking at the IP address. But if you start assigning IP address to hosts randomly, then the network concept has no meaning.
Gateways route packets from one network to another using a routing table; they do not map hosts. While you might be able to come up with an algorithm to route packets to arbitrary IP addresses, it wouldn't be using IP. If you don't believe me, try setting up a "network" of 3 hosts using these IP addresses: 192.168.1.90, 172.16.8.8, and 10.0.1.9. I believe you'll find that you need a gateway with 3 interfaces, one for each network.
Yes, let's dispense with acronyms altogether. I, for one, am much too busy to try and decipher all these acronyms. I have to finish converting all my documentation to Hyper-Text-Markup-Language, then I have to debug our Terminal-Control-Protocol/Internet-Protocol stack to figure out why some Hyper-Text-Transfer-Protocol connections are being dropped. And our File-Transfer-Protocol server is on the fritz, so my boss decided we need to put all our documents on a windows fileserver and access them with System-Message-Block.
Meanwhile, my coworkers are busy porting one of our old Disk-Operating-System applications to windows New-Technology. And our Internet-Technology staff is busy trying to stop a Denial-of-Service attack against our Distributed-Name-System servers.
I've got to get all this finished by 4:00 today, so I can renew my United-States passport before going on a Self-Contained-Underwater-Breathing-Apparatus trip this weekend. Not to mention the new Digital-Video-Disc I need to pick up for my son.
Well, duh. IBM is currently being sued for improperly copying code from AIX into linux. It would stand to reason that they can't just GPL it.
" he carefully made sure the proprietary code in his system would only be dynamically linked to the GPL-protected code."
According to the GPL FAQ even dynamically linking proprietary code with GPL code is not allowed. See in particular GPL and plugins, Mere Aggregation, and Windows Runtime and GPL.
As others have said, the FCC only regulates broadcast, not cable. The interesting thing to note about this is that cable networks can, from a legal standpoint, show pretty much whatever they want. This includes the non-subscription cable networks like MTV, USA, SciFi, etc. Like broadcast, though, non-subscription cable networks rely on advertising for revenue, so they have to keep their sponsors happy. The reason you don't (often) see nudity on MTV or USA is not because of government regulation, but because the networks don't want to risk offending their advertisers and losing revenue. Premium networks like HBO or Showtime get all their revenue from subscriptions, and so don't have to worry about offending an advertiser.
That's also why South Park, for instance, can get away with some of the things they do. It's not the FCC they need to worry about, but the advertisers.
So? Typing "copy file1.txt file2.txt" is a lot easier to learn than double-clicking My Computer, then double-clicking each directory in the hierarchy until you get to the right one, then right-clicking on file1, selecting Copy, then right-clicking the directory name, clicking Paste, then entering file2.txt. Contrived examples do not prove either point.
Says who? A lot of GUIs are not end-user friendly either. Just because some CLI programs require the user to know arcane options does not mean that the CLI itself is broken. In fact, there is anecdotal evidence to suggest that the command line is easier to learn for people who have never used computers before.
Come on, you have to do more than click an icon. At the very least, you have to select which files you want to burn from a list. More likely, you drag and drop the files you want to burn. That's easy for you, but not necessarily intuitive to someone who's never used a mouse before. With a CLI, a you at least have the option to write a script. Aunt Tillie might find it easier to type "burn file1.wav" than figure out which mouse button to press, and which icons to drag where.
What job in the U.S. pays less than a dollar an hour?
Are YOU willing to live on $.75 an hour?
I might be, if I lived in a country where the standard of living was such that $.75 US an hour was comfortable.
How can the first post be redundant?
Cool, thanks!
Not using AfterStep any more? I use this in AS 1.8, and they are very useful. If you're using AfterStep, just put this in your feel file:
I haven't figured out how to use the win key as a modifier, though.
No, you misunderstand. I have 4 workspaces, and each workspace has 4 virtual desktops. Granted, it's a very subtle difference betweeen just having 16 virtual desktops, but it's a nice thing to have.
So it really sounds like it does just boil down to liking what you're used to.That's most of it, yes.
I haven't seen any answers yet that indicate AS does anything WM doesn't.I haven't seen another pager that has the same functionality as afterstep's. I can see at a glance where all my windows are, and the title of each window (well, most of it anyway, but if you mouse over the window in the pager, the full title of the window shows in a popup).
Mostly you're right, this is just a subtle nicety that I've become accustomed to. But I haven't seen it anywhere else.
I've been running AfterStep for about 6 years now. The biggest difference, to me, between AS and WM is in how the virtual desktops are managed. AS has a pager, and it also has a concept of viewports within desktops. It's hard to explain, but think of a workspace that has 4 virtual desktops inside it. You can switch to a different virtual desktop with a keystroke, a mouse click, or by moving the mouse pointer off the edge of the screen. You can move windows to a different desktop by dragging it off the screen, or by dragging it in the pager (there are other ways, but these are what I do the most).
I know that you can now use the Blackbox pager in WM, but AS is what I'm used to, and I see no reason to switch.
I don't think this matters. Copyright law prevents you from making a copy, but it does not prevent you from "writing it in your own words", just like when you turned in book reports in school.
I don't know where you got this idea. Where I work, all the developers have boxes that came preinstalled with either win2k or XP. Mine runs linux, and I have the nice shiny XP disc and license in my desk drawer, unused.
At home, my computer came preinstalled with windows 98. I paid for it, and it is itemized on my bill. It also dual boots to linux. In fact, it would be more correct to call it a linux box which dual boots to windows 98 for games.
I use linux because I think it is better than windows, not because it is free.
I never said otherwise. I said a successful MITM attack could still get valuable or sensitive information, even if you use RSA authentication.
Even if you use SSH2, you are still vulnerable to MITM attacks if you blindly type "yes" whenever you get the big scary warning about the host key changing.
I wasn't ranting. What I said was "a successful man-in-the-middle attack will affect anyone using SSH, whether they use passwords, RSA keys, or anything else". Maybe I could have been a little more careful with my wording, but the post I was replying to was claiming that only people who use passwords for SSH would be affected by a MITM attack. To which I pointed out that a successful MITM attack would affect any user.
and I contend that anyone who gets nailed after their ssh client throws up a big scary "Someone may be attempting a man in the middle attack...." warning kinda deserves to get screwed into the ground.
Well, yes, that was the whole point of my post. Again, maybe I should have been a little clearer in my wording, instead of assuming that people on Slashdot actually read the whole thread before spouting off a condescending reply. The post I replied to claimed "that only affects those who use passwords for SSH", in reply to this post, which was about people who reflexively type "yes" to the "big scary" warning. This claim is not correct; even if you use RSA or DSA authentication, you are still vulnerable to a MITM attack if you blindly type "yes" to the big scary warning about the host key changing.
Thanks for the advice, but I'm already pretty familiar with public key crypto and SSH.
Since a man in the middle won't happen if you pay attention to changes in the host key
Right. How about you go and read the original post before you put your foot in your mouth.
No, a successful man-in-the-middle attack will affect anyone using SSH, whether they use passwords, RSA keys, or anything else.
Because I don't enter my password over the wire, there's no way for it to be intercepted.
Not your login password, no. But anything else you enter or view can be. Su to root? Now they know your root password. Read your mail? They did too.
Not necessarily. The US Copyright Act allows for "Work for Hire" contracts, in which the copyright for a work goes to the employer who hired the creator to make the work, not to the creator. It all depends on the contract.
I would imagine that most musical artists hold the copyright to their own music.
I'm not going to do the legwork for you, but I imagine you are mistaken.
Well, maybe a little legwork. Start here and here.
What the hell are you talking about? What joke is it that I do not get? I'm not the one who called somebody a moron for saying "Pullet Surprise".
Have you even read the original post?
Well, I'm really confused then. Yes, it was clearly a joke. And not only that, it is a very old joke. That's why I thought it ironic that the original poster didn't get such an obvious joke while calling the person who said it a moron. What am I missing?