There are a lot of old G3 macs around that can run only Tiger and are perfect as a browsing machine (if you don't want to watch flash videos).
They're not going to revoke your browsing privileges. They're just not going to update your perfectly fine browser unless you update your perfectly fine OS.
Oh come on, was it really a surprise to anyone that Google does only care about OSS when it suits them and drops out instantly when it doesn't. All of their own sites, business and back-end technology is just as closed as Microsoft's.
Yes, but that's beside the point, which is that unless they want Mac OS X to just die, they won't do it. Most people want options, not limitations. If Apple did this, then Microsoft and Linux would take over a huge consumer base.
And this is where I worry, and where I think we will just have to disagree.
You and I want options (in computers). Most folks are willing if not happy to take limitations. Look at the game console:computer ratio. Look at the iPhone. It's a computer that is also a phone. Compare it to how powerful your first computer was. Or even your computer from 15 years ago. People flock to these closed systems in droves, and a vast majority of them don't care at all that they are closed.
If the iPad takes off, it really would not surprise me at all if OS XI Server looks like OS X, and OS XI User looks like iPhone OS++
Then putting a premium on future machines with the OSX variant.
Only if it wants to alienate almost all of its users and developers.
It won't happen.
I would like to think so, too.
There are more iPhones sold than Macs. There are plenty of apps & developers for the iPhone. There are more xboxes sold than Macs. There are plenty of apps & developers for the xbox. (name that closed system, here)
In a school or business, what is valued? Productivity apps. Security. Low maintenance. Ease of use.
I would like to think that Apple will always sell computers. And that they will always be hackable. But as I look around, I see that there is a distinct possibility that may not be the case.
I'm not interested in an iPhone or an iPad. I want hackable. But I can't ignore what's going on around me. If the iPad takes off *at all*, I would not be even a little surprised if Apple starts to move toward a closed OS.
I make it clear to my management that I have no interest in going into management. Some of them are OK with it. Some of them are frustrated with it.
It is the good ones that are OK with it. They know that I know what I want.
There is some reason you are being offered this different job. Are you good at what you do? Does your management know you are? If that's the case, and you don't want to go, you say no. If you're good, they won't fire you
If you stink at what you do, maybe they are promoting you to take a fall at something you'll fail at miserably. It's possible.
Well... Kinda. If this pans out in 10 years (not bloody likely), and we can build one of these that is actually productive in another 10 years (not bloody likely), then I'd bet all my nickels that China will build a whole bunch of these in 30 years. And while it might not help OUR situation, now, it would sure as hell help ward off the disaster that China will be in 50 years - unless there is a clean alternative.
... I would rather play the old version is all its 640x480 glory then play a LAN game over the WAN. Sure I have the bandwidth, but it's the principle...
So your objection is that you would rather play over a network than over a network.
I've been looking for the reverse of this for some time: The ability to stream itunes to another computer as if it were an airport express. So it would be Airport Express server software.
I can't find anything like that (yes, I've googled). But I didn't even come across JustePort. Do you know of such a thing?
Their guidance systems came within about 2' of each other, at which point it's already absurd to call a "winner" on that factor alone since it will have NO bearing in any real world usage...
I thought the whole point was that there would be NO "real world usage".
You are right. But just because Motorola designed the phone, doesn't mean google had nothing to do with it...This is as much a google device as it is Motorola.
And here you've summarized the problem without stating it.
The iPhone is one company's product: Apple. Really it's one person's phone: Steve's.
And that is why it'll be better: because Steve will fire anyone who makes a phone less than he wants.
Google will enable a superior phone. Moto will fail to deliver. But I hope that someone else delivers. I really dislike the iPhone closed platform.
While of course he himself also goes into the line, like everyone else. After all, the alternative is to take a train. That is borderline communist.
I'm guessing you never priced a train ticket in the US. Besides taking ridiculously long times to get anywhere (as opposed to europe), they are often more expensive than flying.
The bus is cheaper, and for distances less than 300 miles may actually be faster than the train. It's pathetic.
I have to assume that if this is passed, all magazines will add the "This picture was modified..." text to every picture (whther it includes a person or not) rather than having to track which were and which were not.
That's bull. End users don't need to know or do anything. At this point, all we really need is for ISPs to provide IPv6 and the rest will happen without users doing -- or knowing -- a thing.
Hi. I'm an end user. I don't have an IPv6 address because it is too much work and I have to know too much.
Dan is right; if IPv4 were just a subset of IPv6, we'd all have IPv6 [compatible] addresses already. All IPv4 software would continue to work. All IPv4 routing would continue to work. The whole transition would be easier.
Common people where is the news here? You actually think a Blackberry, Nokia or any other phone on the market today has any kind of encryption that can't be broken into with a bit of research.
I'd rather use an iPhone, but company policy is BB. Then again, the BB is encrypted. 10 bad attempts at a password and it nukes itself.
The US does not make it easy to sell encryption products, but this (slip from Apple) is pathetic. I'm generally unhappy with Apple's security standards. AFS mounts in the clear by default, and inconvenient to do securely? Come on.
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There are a lot of old G3 macs around that can run only Tiger and are perfect as a browsing machine (if you don't want to watch flash videos).
They're not going to revoke your browsing privileges. They're just not going to update your perfectly fine browser unless you update your perfectly fine OS.
Oh come on, was it really a surprise to anyone that Google does only care about OSS when it suits them and drops out instantly when it doesn't. All of their own sites, business and back-end technology is just as closed as Microsoft's.
http://golang.org/
Where's the open source c# compiler from MS?
Though it certainly isn't clear how much (if any) they are depending on go.
I'm just picking one example, here.
Yes, but that's beside the point, which is that unless they want Mac OS X to just die, they won't do it. Most people want options, not limitations. If Apple did this, then Microsoft and Linux would take over a huge consumer base.
And this is where I worry, and where I think we will just have to disagree.
You and I want options (in computers). Most folks are willing if not happy to take limitations. Look at the game console:computer ratio. Look at the iPhone. It's a computer that is also a phone. Compare it to how powerful your first computer was. Or even your computer from 15 years ago. People flock to these closed systems in droves, and a vast majority of them don't care at all that they are closed.
If the iPad takes off, it really would not surprise me at all if OS XI Server looks like OS X, and OS XI User looks like iPhone OS++
I hope I'm wrong.
As much as I wish I could agree with you unreservedly...
I can totally see Apple releasing a new mac mini with this OS because *it just works*.
Then it won't be branded as "Mac OS X,"
Mac OS XI?
and surely won't become the primary OS sold by Apple.
Primary...
By units, OS X has been Apple's secondary OS for a while. In fact, if you count the ipod OS, then it is third.
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/four_years_of_apple_unit_revenue_graphs_illustrate_growth/
By dollar, I don't know.
Then putting a premium on future machines with the OSX variant.
Only if it wants to alienate almost all of its users and developers.
It won't happen.
I would like to think so, too.
There are more iPhones sold than Macs. There are plenty of apps & developers for the iPhone.
There are more xboxes sold than Macs. There are plenty of apps & developers for the xbox.
(name that closed system, here)
In a school or business, what is valued? Productivity apps. Security. Low maintenance. Ease of use.
I would like to think that Apple will always sell computers. And that they will always be hackable. But as I look around, I see that there is a distinct possibility that may not be the case.
I'm not interested in an iPhone or an iPad. I want hackable. But I can't ignore what's going on around me. If the iPad takes off *at all*, I would not be even a little surprised if Apple starts to move toward a closed OS.
... We need to know at what speeds the motion detection fails, lest the server room be broken into by someone with alot of patience.
But not if they have just alittle patience? Wait, that doesn't look right...
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/alot
I make it clear to my management that I have no interest in going into management. Some of them are OK with it. Some of them are frustrated with it.
It is the good ones that are OK with it. They know that I know what I want.
There is some reason you are being offered this different job. Are you good at what you do? Does your management know you are? If that's the case, and you don't want to go, you say no. If you're good, they won't fire you
If you stink at what you do, maybe they are promoting you to take a fall at something you'll fail at miserably. It's possible.
Half the time significance isn't even a requirement.
Half? Where is this wonderful version of slashdot you have access to?
Well... Kinda. If this pans out in 10 years (not bloody likely), and we can build one of these that is actually productive in another 10 years (not bloody likely), then I'd bet all my nickels that China will build a whole bunch of these in 30 years. And while it might not help OUR situation, now, it would sure as hell help ward off the disaster that China will be in 50 years - unless there is a clean alternative.
... I would rather play the old version is all its 640x480 glory then play a LAN game over the WAN. Sure I have the bandwidth, but it's the principle...
So your objection is that you would rather play over a network than over a network.
I bet someone at Google will get fired soon...
Either 1 of 2 things may have happened:
1) They used Microsoft Bing to search for potential trademark violations
2) They were too lazy and didn't check at all.
I think you missed the flaming obvious third option:
The name is different: Go vs. Go!
They don't care about a non-trademarked name for a language that [virtually] nobody uses, and they like the name Go.
I've been looking for the reverse of this for some time:
The ability to stream itunes to another computer as if it were an airport express. So it would be Airport Express server software.
I can't find anything like that (yes, I've googled). But I didn't even come across JustePort. Do you know of such a thing?
Their guidance systems came within about 2' of each other, at which point it's already absurd to call a "winner" on that factor alone since it will have NO bearing in any real world usage...
I thought the whole point was that there would be NO "real world usage".
har har
You are right. But just because Motorola designed the phone, doesn't mean google had nothing to do with it...This is as much a google device as it is Motorola.
And here you've summarized the problem without stating it.
The iPhone is one company's product: Apple. Really it's one person's phone: Steve's.
And that is why it'll be better: because Steve will fire anyone who makes a phone less than he wants.
Google will enable a superior phone. Moto will fail to deliver. But I hope that someone else delivers. I really dislike the iPhone closed platform.
While of course he himself also goes into the line, like everyone else. After all, the alternative is to take a train. That is borderline communist.
I'm guessing you never priced a train ticket in the US. Besides taking ridiculously long times to get anywhere (as opposed to europe), they are often more expensive than flying.
The bus is cheaper, and for distances less than 300 miles may actually be faster than the train. It's pathetic.
I agree. I believe that solar is on the cusp of becoming 'cool' in California. If that happens, I expect these kinds of rules/laws to be struck down.
My partner was an ICU nurse and used continuous flow VADs (Ventricular Assist Device) for years.
Here's an article from 2000: http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/circulationaha;101/4/356
There is some controversy about continuous flow, but the notion is that most of the body experiences nearly continuous flow, anyway.
Implanted continuous flow notes from April: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19324130
And another from 2008 implying that pulseless does not matter:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18442710?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
How much faster - outta curiousity? We talking 20% or 2x?
I have to assume that if this is passed, all magazines will add the "This picture was modified..." text to every picture (whther it includes a person or not) rather than having to track which were and which were not.
Personally, I prefer COMPLETE BULLSHIT
That is totally whack.
And kinda cool. What is it?
I've been slowly reading Traffic: Why We Drive the Way We Do (and What It Says About Us). Tom Vanderbilt has some interesting things to say about car cameras, driving habits, and what can be learned by reviewing them.
I think it might be instructive to see what happens when your family is driving. And not just for the teenager.
If they want a shot at faking another moonlanding they really need to hire a better set designer, that didn't look anything like the moon!
How would anyone know?
Well, that's fine when it comes to computers. Mobile phones are different.
Mobile phones are computers targeted for a single principle application.
As soon as Apple realizes that and lets me install what I want, they'll get my money.
That is, if Google Voice/SwitchBoard and some other palm/phone device don't get there first.
(typed from my bookpro)
That's bull. End users don't need to know or do anything. At this point, all we really need is for ISPs to provide IPv6 and the rest will happen without users doing -- or knowing -- a thing.
Hi. I'm an end user. I don't have an IPv6 address because it is too much work and I have to know too much.
Dan is right; if IPv4 were just a subset of IPv6, we'd all have IPv6 [compatible] addresses already. All IPv4 software would continue to work. All IPv4 routing would continue to work. The whole transition would be easier.
Am I the only one who wonders if this might be the true precursor to the Metaverse?
Cute username.
...
Common people where is the news here? You actually think a Blackberry, Nokia or any other phone on the market today has any kind of encryption that can't be broken into with a bit of research.
Yes.
http://www.resourcecenter.blackberry.com/resource/xHCO-BlackBerry_Enterprise_Solution_Security_version_4.pdf
I'd rather use an iPhone, but company policy is BB. Then again, the BB is encrypted. 10 bad attempts at a password and it nukes itself.
The US does not make it easy to sell encryption products, but this (slip from Apple) is pathetic. I'm generally unhappy with Apple's security standards. AFS mounts in the clear by default, and inconvenient to do securely? Come on.