"From this point on I aim to only listen to copylefted music. Movies and TV? I'd rather have fun making a copylefted movie than killing my brain cells and liberty with an MPAA offering."
I am trying on the production end of the copylefted music front:
"When it comes to music, listen to local bands playing at pubs or other venues."
Better yet, fund the creation of some decent copyleft type music. Raise some money and pay some of those local bands to write and record a song under a copyleft licnese. Then if it's any good, flog it.
"All we did was build a communications network that spans the globe and allows even the most insignificant person to have access to information that less than a generation ago was the domain of governments and billionaires."
See, that's where you go wrong, that network of tubes was invented by political types and put together by plumbers. Get real!
"I'd almost be willing to say Sun has released more open source code than any other company."
Which goes to show how much Sun's multi-minded talking over the years has seriously hurt their image with many people. I know it has undermined my trust in them. I certainly have liked some of the things they have done over the years but I have not liked others and have not liked a bunch of things they have said.
"What am I missing here? (And I'm not being sarcastic with that, I genuinely don't understand why anyone would want to share the fundamentals of their creation in a way that would compromise any potential future earnings.)"
One thing you are missing is that you can cut costs with Free Software. Your costs. (Your tools can cost less for one.)
Another is that one can get paid up front for one's work. That is good enough for some and if they go the Free Software route, their work can impact your potential future earnings even if you don't.
The world seems to be going that way and to my mind, that is a good thing. The thing is to figure out how to prosper in the new market.
If you wan't to explore this more, give me a shout.
all the best,
drew http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954 Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel Wherein zotz seems to be giving up potential future earnings on his "literary" works...
"Does the amount they contribute back exceed the amount they gain by benefiting from the work of others?"
You know what? It's not a zero sum game.
Secondly, I would guess for most heavy users of Free Software, the amount they contribute back doesn't exceed the amount they gain by benefiting from the work of others.
That is a good thing. I can put in a little and take out a lot. Cool. I can also put something in once and a million people can take it out five million times without me having to lift a finger from there on. Cool. This digital realm has some amazing properties that it seems many don't get or don't want to admit to.
That said, I am not sure I know of any big coproration that I think is all good when it comes to Free Software or that I would trust in the matter.
Yes, but will google blur out the logo? Unless the colonel pays of course.
all the best,
drew http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954 Drop by and read the novel I am writing. (copyleft type license) Or come to ##zotz on irc.freenode.net and watch it being written. Till the end of Nov 2006.
"Remember, patent and copyright monopolies DESTROY free market capitalism. Microsoft, like most large software corporations, are absolutely terrified of a true free market in software."
Bingo. A point I have been trying to make for what seems like ages.
There are no free markets when it comes to goods protected by copyrights or patents. With copyleft you can perhaps get close to a free market in those goods.
"An elderly Japanese bar manager and performer has been arrested for playing copyrighted songs on his harmonica."
"Again, I can't speak for Japanese law, but in the USA it is clear that it is the owner of the performance venue, not the artist, who has to pay this fee."
Perhaps he was an owner manager? Perhaps in Japan, artists can't play in clubs that don't display a "sign" indicating they have a relationship with a rights society? ??
"The difference here is that this guy plays the tunes in his business establishment. One could reasonably argue that he does derive financial benefit from having music as a perk for his patrong."
Right, I think the issue is not his playing, but his owning an establishment where protected music is played. This little "trick" is why more musicians are not up in arms over how copyrights are operated. Musicians are generally not responsible for paying royalties on songs they cover live.
Now if the musicians were responsible and had to build the costs into their rates, more might have something to say.
I am not sure how this works for private parties. Can anyone enlighten us?
This sounds like something I have been talking to my clients about for years.
They should see if people they are thinking of doing business with have provided an exit strategy for them should things not work out. A company/person that put you first would be happy to do so.
So many only want to provide an entrance strategy. They want to get you easily into their world and then lock your hip in.
"According to Dvorak, it's only a matter of time before Linux is 'cracked' by Microsoft, meaning Microsoft figures out a way to run proprietary code on it."
Gee, everyone else knows how to run proprietary code on linux. MS can't be too swift if they can't figure that.
1) that which ensures freedom or 2) that which grants so much freedom that it permits denial of freedom"
Indeed, I had someone make the case that people in a country where slavery was illegal weren't free as they were not free to sell themselves as slaves or to buy people wanting to sell themselves as slaves. How do you (that is a general you, not aimed at the poster of the parent) see the matter.
If you actually my original post, you need to explain this. How in the world does a tech company funding the creation of copyleft music and video raise a trademark violation?
Either you are not seeing something, or I am not.
As you can see, I know the Apple vs. Apple issue was trademarks, I just don't see how that relates to the issue at hand.
all the best,
drew (Who is willing to accept funding from major tech companies to produce copyleft lyrics and other text.) http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
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"From this point on I aim to only listen to copylefted music. Movies and TV? I'd rather have fun making a copylefted movie than killing my brain cells and liberty with an MPAA offering."
I am trying on the production end of the copylefted music front:
http://musicians.opensrc.org/DrewRoberts
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/145261 (I really need to do this one.)
Would you care to brainstorm on the movie side of the equation?
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
CC BY-SA (think copyleft)
"Hmm. Of course...who's working on that free music again?
www.anvilstudio.com"
I am, for one:
http://musicians.opensrc.org/DrewRoberts
May I suggest considering a copyleft type license for your Free music?
Oh and as to programs, people might check:
http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
http://ardour.org/
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
http://www.ferventsoftware.com/
"When it comes to music, listen to local bands playing at pubs or other venues."
Better yet, fund the creation of some decent copyleft type music. Raise some money and pay some of those local bands to write and record a song under a copyleft licnese. Then if it's any good, flog it.
all the best,
drew
http://musicians.opensrc.org/DrewRoberts
A small start - as yet unpaid.
"Why not just sue the Internet and get it over with ;-)."
Al Gore doesn't have enough moola? ~;-) macaroni
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
"It's looking more and more like the only safe user content to host is plain old text, and I think that's a damn shame."
http://musicians.opensrc.org/DrewRoberts
Some people are making works that should be safe to host. Fund the creation of more stuff with licenses you like and host those works.
You will get a positive feedback loop going and things may have a chance of being different.
Talk to your local bands about funding some of their songs under Free licenses.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
"All we did was build a communications network that spans the globe and allows even the most insignificant person to have access to information that less than a generation ago was the domain of governments and billionaires."
See, that's where you go wrong, that network of tubes was invented by political types and put together by plumbers. Get real!
~;-)
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
"But I'm guessing GPLv3 just got a big boost in popularity. I wonder if the FSF is going to send Ballmer a thank-you note?"
c id=16815084
Hey, that's my joke:
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=206202&
Let's call this a case of great minds think alike. We never heard 'fools seldom differ' - no, not us! ~;-)
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
"I'd almost be willing to say Sun has released more open source code than any other company."
Which goes to show how much Sun's multi-minded talking over the years has seriously hurt their image with many people. I know it has undermined my trust in them. I certainly have liked some of the things they have done over the years but I have not liked others and have not liked a bunch of things they have said.
Lost opportunities galore there I guess.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
CC Attribution-ShareAlike
"What am I missing here? (And I'm not being sarcastic with that, I genuinely don't understand why anyone would want to share the fundamentals of their creation in a way that would compromise any potential future earnings.)"
One thing you are missing is that you can cut costs with Free Software. Your costs. (Your tools can cost less for one.)
Another is that one can get paid up front for one's work. That is good enough for some and if they go the Free Software route, their work can impact your potential future earnings even if you don't.
The world seems to be going that way and to my mind, that is a good thing. The thing is to figure out how to prosper in the new market.
If you wan't to explore this more, give me a shout.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
Wherein zotz seems to be giving up potential future earnings
on his "literary" works...
"Does the amount they contribute back exceed the amount they gain by benefiting from the work of others?"
You know what? It's not a zero sum game.
Secondly, I would guess for most heavy users of Free Software, the amount they contribute back doesn't exceed the amount they gain by benefiting from the work of others.
That is a good thing. I can put in a little and take out a lot. Cool. I can also put something in once and a million people can take it out five million times without me having to lift a finger from there on. Cool. This digital realm has some amazing properties that it seems many don't get or don't want to admit to.
That said, I am not sure I know of any big coproration that I think is all good when it comes to Free Software or that I would trust in the matter.
all the best,
drew
http://code.google.com/p/drsoundwall/
dRsoundWall
Yes, but will google blur out the logo? Unless the colonel pays of course.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Drop by and read the novel I am writing. (copyleft type license)
Or come to ##zotz on irc.freenode.net and watch it being written.
Till the end of Nov 2006.
"The Open Source community's biggest weakness: paranoia."
Hey! Just cause I'm paraniod doesn't mean they're not out to get me!
Oh, and count me in the Free Software part of the Venn and not in the Open Source part.
all the best,
drew
http://code.google.com/p/drsoundwall/
A little soundwall app for you DJs out there.
This is just Microsoft trying to get Linus to reconsider and try and move the kernel to the GPLv3.
Move along.
I have something backwards?
What exactly do I have backwards? Are you claiming that copyrights and patents create or enhance Free Market Capitalism?
You will need to bring some serious arguments and lots of whatever to put that case across.
Oh, and those ad hominum references to lemmings don't work too well.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
"Remember, patent and copyright monopolies DESTROY free market capitalism. Microsoft, like most large software corporations, are absolutely terrified of a true free market in software."
Bingo. A point I have been trying to make for what seems like ages.
There are no free markets when it comes to goods protected by copyrights or patents. With copyleft you can perhaps get close to a free market in those goods.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
"An elderly Japanese bar manager and performer has been arrested for playing copyrighted songs on his harmonica."
"Again, I can't speak for Japanese law, but in the USA it is clear that it is the owner of the performance venue, not the artist, who has to pay this fee."
Perhaps he was an owner manager? Perhaps in Japan, artists can't play in clubs that don't display a "sign" indicating they have a relationship with a rights society? ??
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel (in progress)
CC Attribution-ShareAlike license
"The difference here is that this guy plays the tunes in his business establishment. One could reasonably argue that he does derive financial benefit from having music as a perk for his patrong."
Right, I think the issue is not his playing, but his owning an establishment where protected music is played. This little "trick" is why more musicians are not up in arms over how copyrights are operated. Musicians are generally not responsible for paying royalties on songs they cover live.
Now if the musicians were responsible and had to build the costs into their rates, more might have something to say.
I am not sure how this works for private parties. Can anyone enlighten us?
Also, I wonder what the situation is for buskers?
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
Actually,
I have my issues with them. I also appreciate much of what they do.
Do no evil is ok... and do good might be better.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings
A NaNoWriMo contest novel in the writing
use under CC BY-SA (most copyleft license CC provides)
This sounds like something I have been talking to my clients about for years.
They should see if people they are thinking of doing business with have provided an exit strategy for them should things not work out. A company/person that put you first would be happy to do so.
So many only want to provide an entrance strategy. They want to get you easily into their world and then lock your hip in.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings
A NaNoWriMo novel in the making (copyleft type license)
"prepositional mix-up"
I like that. Good one.
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
CC BY-SA licensed just for you
"According to Dvorak, it's only a matter of time before Linux is 'cracked' by Microsoft, meaning Microsoft figures out a way to run proprietary code on it."
Gee, everyone else knows how to run proprietary code on linux. MS can't be too swift if they can't figure that.
Perhaps more is meant by "run on it"???
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel
CC BY-SA
"Which is more free?
1) that which ensures freedom or
2) that which grants so much freedom that it permits denial of freedom"
Indeed, I had someone make the case that people in a country where slavery was illegal weren't free as they were not free to sell themselves as slaves or to buy people wanting to sell themselves as slaves. How do you (that is a general you, not aimed at the poster of the parent) see the matter.
all the best,
drew
Ah, now I see your angle. I don't know what all the settlement called for but I can see how it might be an issue.
s ound_de.html
What was the proverbial sound called? Sosumi?
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/03/24/early_apple_
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
'Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel'
If you actually my original post, you need to explain this. How in the world does a tech company funding the creation of copyleft music and video raise a trademark violation?
Either you are not seeing something, or I am not.
As you can see, I know the Apple vs. Apple issue was trademarks, I just don't see how that relates to the issue at hand.
all the best,
drew
(Who is willing to accept funding from major tech companies to produce copyleft lyrics and other text.)
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
'Q: What would happen if the big tech compamies started funding the production of copyleft music and movies and the like?'
"A: The Beatles' label would sue. One of the biggest names in prosumer audio production is Apple Computer, whose name clashes with Apple Corps."
I don't follow get your reasoning (and you don't supply it.) On what grounds would they sue.
The Apple vs. Apple suit was over Trademarks wasn't it?
all the best,
drew
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/262954
Sayings - Deterred Bahamian Novel