At least TR had the good sense to die quickly in that movie. Why wait for the second reel when you can cash your cheque and be off to make "Antitrust" right now?
Um, how about looking at where the measurements were taken?
The NK test results were recoded in South Korea. Your Pakistan test results were taken in Canada! Gee, I wonder if a seismic event might not last as long, or be as strong when measured from across the frickin' world as opposed to a couple of hundred miles away.
(For a while, Be, Inc. thought Apple would buy their OS and make it the center of the next-generation MacOS. When Steve Jobs became head of Apple again, however, he brought the NeXT system with him and now MacOS X is basically NeXTSTEP on more competitive hardware and with a somewhat more familiar interface. There was serious bad blood between Be fans and Apple fans over this.)
Just some clarification... It was Gil Amelio who bought NeXT instead of BeOS. Jobs was still in exile at NeXT and wasn't named (interim) CEO until 14 months after the merger. The bad blood that exists from Be fans can generally be tracked back to Gassee putting all of Be's eggs in Apple's basket. When Apple balked at paying $400M+ for Be (widely rumored to be the value Jean-Louis Gassee pegged for Be, and coincidentally the same amount Apple paid for NeXT), Be was kaput. I would say an equal portion of Be loyalist anger is placed with Gassee for asking too much for Be and killing the company, and Amelio/Apple for choosing NeXT instead. Jobs doesn't really enter the picture.
Also, BeOS in 1996 had fine internet/networking capabilities. I doubt that even entered into the decision to choose NeXT over Be.
Passenger rail in the US is pretty much screwed and has been since we made the decision to go with highways instead - it would take major Federal funding and interest to get it to any reasonable level, and theres just not the citizen-level demand for it.
There will be if the price of oil continues to rise.
"Very speedy, no crashes" isn't enough, which is what I meant. "Enough" means supporting AppleScript, Services, menu at the top of the screen instead of the window, etc.
Apparently, you want a native Mac application. OpenOffice will never be that, nor should it. Perhaps you should stick to AppleWorks.
Swing has nothing to do with AppleScript, Services, or the locaiton of the menu bar, nor should it. You're confusing Swing with two proprietary platform-specific technologies and one proprietary platform-specific LaF implementation. You use the Swing API for cross-platform consistency, and the latest version (5 on Mac OS) does a great job.
Don't spout off saying Swing on Mac OS sucks when you don't even know what Swing is.
Well, here's the thing: even if you do use Java it still takes time to port to Mac because Swing Java is not the same as Cocoa Java. And believe me -- Swing apps do NOT cut it on Mac OS.
I'm having no problems with Netbeans and JEdit. The new Java 5 update for Mac OS seems indistinguishable from WinXP. Very speedy, no crashes.
Right on. IntelliJ is very slick. I'm a bit annoyed how the Eclipse fanboys hijack any thread about Java. In typical IBM fashion, they seem to think the Java world revolves around them.
Easy there, fanboy. The article was about Netbeans, not Eclipse.
All I have to say is that I percieve SWT to break the core reason for Java in the first place--write once, run anywhere. That will never be the case for SWT, and that is why SWT will always be marginalized. Try running your favorite SWT app (including Eclipse) on a Mac. Java was supposed to alleviate platform differences.
As an example, you mention ClearType. ClearType is a platform-specific technology, and although it looks pretty on SWT apps in Windows, running that same app on other platforms produces no benefit. Granted, sub-pixel rendering is a nice feature, but why not implement it at the LaF level, and not at the native peer-esque SWT level, so that it requires no extra platform-specific manipulation. The Mac OS Aqua LaF already does this quite well, and I'm sure the other Swing LaFs will have it soon. (Interesting to note, Java 5 now supports AA type, so sub-pixel hinting is sure to follow.)
Just because Swing started out slow doesn't mean it's not fully functional now. There are a bevy of good Swing apps (including NetBeans and JEdit) that are a testament to this fact. Also, you completely forget to mention the NetBeans platform as a viable alternative to Eclipse platform apps. So before you extoll Eclipse as the saviour of Java you may want to compare NetBeans on its merits, and not on your zeal for Windows-only Java apps.
You may want to debate C#/.NET, since it seems to be better positioned for what you appear to want to do.
I think everyone can still agree on the technical superiority [of Betamax] over VHS.
Betamax was very cool. Sony however has a long history of poor decisions regarding new technology. They generally aren't a consumer market-friendly company. UMD is another perfect example of this. Lets hope that they shed their past transgressions by moving toward solidifying on a single next-gen DVD standard.
It just cracks me up when people talk about Betacam in derisive terms, since a lot of what you've seen on TV for the last 20 years has been sourced from a Betacam tape.
People dis Betamax because it was proprietary, too expensive, too rare, and had no commercial content (movies). I think everyone can still agree on the technical superiority over VHS (scanlines, tape durability, and size of cassette).
If you thought Adobe products were expensive before, just wait until there is no more competition. They are free to extort as much as they can, since the consumer is trapped.
Don't forget that a main cause of North American's hesitance toward diesel is the type of diesel sold here. The high sulphur content in NA's diesel causes dirty, smelly exhaust. With the more refined, low-sulphur diesel in Europe, the difference is very noticeable.
I'm not necessarily for "[dropping BSD's] proud culture," although I think the case can me made that a li'l devil isn't the best choice of a mascot from a marketing perspective. To those who scoff at "marketing," think of this: FreeBSD needs to work at becoming mainstream or else risk being left behind. I think that the beastie needs a serious overhaul, including making one-colour and spot-colour versions that can easily be put in to print (or t-shirts:).
I have nothing against DragonFly BSD. I don't think forking the 4 tree helps BSD adoption, though. It definitely muddies the waters. Their logo is very nice (and useable).
I think FreeBSD could use a redesign of their "corporate" identity. I'm not saying get rid of the beastie, but a new look, one that isn't so stale, is definitely required.
OpenBSD had a very cool 3D wire-frame beastie several versions ago. Something different like that could spark interest in FreeBSD. If nothing else, you can say that NetBSD's logo change has brought them publicity.
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Wicket is pretty cool.
If you haven't already, check out Groovy and Grails. They will change your life :)
At least TR had the good sense to die quickly in that movie. Why wait for the second reel when you can cash your cheque and be off to make "Antitrust" right now?
Um, how about looking at where the measurements were taken?
The NK test results were recoded in South Korea. Your Pakistan test results were taken in Canada! Gee, I wonder if a seismic event might not last as long, or be as strong when measured from across the frickin' world as opposed to a couple of hundred miles away.
Asshat.
All this talk of Hot Coffee... Excuse me, I have to go rub one out. Where did I leave GTA again?
The phones are tapped.
US Mail, baby.
Didn't anyone see The Postman
No, it isn't. :)
Holy crap! You're user number one!
ducks
(For a while, Be, Inc. thought Apple would buy their OS and make it the center of the next-generation MacOS. When Steve Jobs became head of Apple again, however, he brought the NeXT system with him and now MacOS X is basically NeXTSTEP on more competitive hardware and with a somewhat more familiar interface. There was serious bad blood between Be fans and Apple fans over this.)
Just some clarification... It was Gil Amelio who bought NeXT instead of BeOS. Jobs was still in exile at NeXT and wasn't named (interim) CEO until 14 months after the merger. The bad blood that exists from Be fans can generally be tracked back to Gassee putting all of Be's eggs in Apple's basket. When Apple balked at paying $400M+ for Be (widely rumored to be the value Jean-Louis Gassee pegged for Be, and coincidentally the same amount Apple paid for NeXT), Be was kaput. I would say an equal portion of Be loyalist anger is placed with Gassee for asking too much for Be and killing the company, and Amelio/Apple for choosing NeXT instead. Jobs doesn't really enter the picture.
Also, BeOS in 1996 had fine internet/networking capabilities. I doubt that even entered into the decision to choose NeXT over Be.
It's either jury-rigged or jerry-built. English is fun.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/jerry.html
My guess is that Bill makes more money selling retail copies of MS Office for Mac OS than he does for OEM copies of Windows.
Bill's never seen a dollar he didn't like.
Everything was moving along swimmingly at /. until some monkey decided to allow CmdrTaco to start posting stories.
There will be if the price of oil continues to rise.
Apparently, you want a native Mac application. OpenOffice will never be that, nor should it. Perhaps you should stick to AppleWorks.
Swing has nothing to do with AppleScript, Services, or the locaiton of the menu bar, nor should it. You're confusing Swing with two proprietary platform-specific technologies and one proprietary platform-specific LaF implementation. You use the Swing API for cross-platform consistency, and the latest version (5 on Mac OS) does a great job.
Don't spout off saying Swing on Mac OS sucks when you don't even know what Swing is.
I'm having no problems with Netbeans and JEdit. The new Java 5 update for Mac OS seems indistinguishable from WinXP. Very speedy, no crashes.
Right on. IntelliJ is very slick. I'm a bit annoyed how the Eclipse fanboys hijack any thread about Java. In typical IBM fashion, they seem to think the Java world revolves around them.
Easy there, fanboy. The article was about Netbeans, not Eclipse.
All I have to say is that I percieve SWT to break the core reason for Java in the first place--write once, run anywhere. That will never be the case for SWT, and that is why SWT will always be marginalized. Try running your favorite SWT app (including Eclipse) on a Mac. Java was supposed to alleviate platform differences.
As an example, you mention ClearType. ClearType is a platform-specific technology, and although it looks pretty on SWT apps in Windows, running that same app on other platforms produces no benefit. Granted, sub-pixel rendering is a nice feature, but why not implement it at the LaF level, and not at the native peer-esque SWT level, so that it requires no extra platform-specific manipulation. The Mac OS Aqua LaF already does this quite well, and I'm sure the other Swing LaFs will have it soon. (Interesting to note, Java 5 now supports AA type, so sub-pixel hinting is sure to follow.)
Just because Swing started out slow doesn't mean it's not fully functional now. There are a bevy of good Swing apps (including NetBeans and JEdit) that are a testament to this fact. Also, you completely forget to mention the NetBeans platform as a viable alternative to Eclipse platform apps. So before you extoll Eclipse as the saviour of Java you may want to compare NetBeans on its merits, and not on your zeal for Windows-only Java apps.
You may want to debate C#/.NET, since it seems to be better positioned for what you appear to want to do.
Mod parent up.
I didn't realize the difference either. Thanks for all the Wiki legwork!
I also was a kid when Betamax/VHS was playing out. I still can't believe that JVC somehow slayed the Sony dragon (if only this one particular battle).
That is what i said:
I think everyone can still agree on the technical superiority [of Betamax] over VHS.Betamax was very cool. Sony however has a long history of poor decisions regarding new technology. They generally aren't a consumer market-friendly company. UMD is another perfect example of this. Lets hope that they shed their past transgressions by moving toward solidifying on a single next-gen DVD standard.
People dis Betamax because it was proprietary, too expensive, too rare, and had no commercial content (movies). I think everyone can still agree on the technical superiority over VHS (scanlines, tape durability, and size of cassette).
If you thought Adobe products were expensive before, just wait until there is no more competition. They are free to extort as much as they can, since the consumer is trapped.
Very dire times indeed.
Actually, MS's Mac software was driving some serious sales back in the mid-80s.
It's there because they developed a lot of software for it.
Don't forget that a main cause of North American's hesitance toward diesel is the type of diesel sold here. The high sulphur content in NA's diesel causes dirty, smelly exhaust. With the more refined, low-sulphur diesel in Europe, the difference is very noticeable.
I'm not necessarily for "[dropping BSD's] proud culture," although I think the case can me made that a li'l devil isn't the best choice of a mascot from a marketing perspective. To those who scoff at "marketing," think of this: FreeBSD needs to work at becoming mainstream or else risk being left behind. I think that the beastie needs a serious overhaul, including making one-colour and spot-colour versions that can easily be put in to print (or t-shirts :).
I have nothing against DragonFly BSD. I don't think forking the 4 tree helps BSD adoption, though. It definitely muddies the waters. Their logo is very nice (and useable).
I think FreeBSD could use a redesign of their "corporate" identity. I'm not saying get rid of the beastie, but a new look, one that isn't so stale, is definitely required.
OpenBSD had a very cool 3D wire-frame beastie several versions ago. Something different like that could spark interest in FreeBSD. If nothing else, you can say that NetBSD's logo change has brought them publicity.
Time for FreeBSD to do the same. FreeBSD needs something other than a 20-year-old drawing of a devil to appeal to the masses, right?
Would polarizing the window glass help? It would prevent the glass from being discoloured.