Windows updates regularly break stuff for people who have unusual non-mainstream peripherals, like scientific devices, specialized astronomy cameras, cnc machine tools, etc. If you are a routine user I buy your argument, but simply put, not everyone is.
And, "it only breaks once every few years" is good enough for some things, but not others. When a forced update breaks something important, maybe a bank or a train system, watch the debates begin in earnest.
Again, you DON'T need to lie:
1) Did it happen?. Yes.
2) Is it often?. No, it just happened 2 or 3 times.
what kind of anal retentive asshole would not want to receive Windows security updates?
The kind that doesn't like his computer breaking randomly because MS decided they knew better for him than he did.
I never had anything broken because an update.
Why is this even an issue?
Because updates regularly break stuff for people, or change things in ways they don't want it to be changed.
Again, that is just a lie, i know MS is not very appreciated here on/., there's no need to lie though.
If I upgrade to Windows 10, I want every security update the second it comes out. Sooner, if possible.
Then you're an idiot who must have someone else do all the work to keep their computer working and have no idea what these updates actually are.
More likely, you're just a really shitty troll.
Either way, if you think this is great, you're a short sighted moron who needs to get some experience working with computers (any of them, not just ones running MS products) and then you'll understand why this is a fucking stupid idea.
Wish i saw earlier how big of an asshole you're, i would have spent time answering to a liying dick.
While of course there's always room for improvement, i applaud Steam, they always seem to be the ones closer to the customers, i'm pretty sure that will pay off on the long run
Anything that claims a 100% success rate is doomed to fail, all you need is a single case to bring it down. Doing such a thing would mean a serious step forward on security. To tell the truth, i'm quite skeptical on this making any difference, at all.
I really can't believe there's still people that need this to be explained. You get one year to update to Windows 10 for free if you have Windows 7, 8, or 8.1, after that year, it will no longer be free.
Piracy on both LG and NG consoles is minimum compared to PC, most income came from them, not PC. Plus, why is it acceptable that since they made fortunes is OK to pirate a game?, Would you be OK if we all consider you make enough money and steal part of it?
Bullshit, stop spreading lies, nobody got banned for modding SP, they do get banned for ruining everybody's fun on MP. SP modders beware of Mods including malware.
While every platform has its own problems. I get you don't develop much on.net. Having the right framework version solves your problems, if you used a external library you must include it on the setup, if don't, well is not really a platform problem. Keeping users up to date?, if you can open a web site you clearly can download the latest version of the app. Windows versions?, are you still on 98?,.net works from XP to 8.1, and it'll work on 10.
I don't pretend anything, i was just talking about the damn UI, which is the only thing web has, Web services are just published, they run on your server, you don't need to worry about DLLs, that is if you were smart enough to don't use stupid frameworks, which required.
I'm talking about how web sites work, you disabled a button and then i press F12 and enable it again, i can mess up the entire page. What about having to "float: left" a tag to align it to the left, not to mention the stupid empty div with the clear: left/both; to keep a tag within its container.
I'm not saying is impossible, but for complex apps, the web is not the place, at least i don't find a good reason why they should be.
The thing is that it never should have, that's why you need 10 different "frameworks" to do the same as a simple desktop app, and not always working, multibrowser compatibility is a utopy. After a year you spend more time making that framework salad work than actually adding new features.
Web is for video playback, reading news and blogs, Business app?, desktop, using web services.
2001 called, it wants its antiquated attitude back. The web evolves: deal with it. You bitching about what the web is now isn't going to make us all suddenly go back to "video playback, reading news and blogs".
Does it evolves?, i just see you have to learn more and more frameworks that get ditched a sometime later forcing you to apply hack after hack after hack.
It's called opinions, you may enjoy learning a new framework each month to do the smallest things, i really don't.
Today you need to learn Knockout, jQuery, Angular, and whatever hipsters are doing now. I could do the same with a desktop app and easily. And believe me, you don't need to apply 10 hacks for a button to be placed in the right place, you don't need to make anything float to align it to the left.
I've been a web developer for 5 years, everyday, i hate it even more.
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Windows updates regularly break stuff for people who have unusual non-mainstream peripherals, like scientific devices, specialized astronomy cameras, cnc machine tools, etc. If you are a routine user I buy your argument, but simply put, not everyone is.
And, "it only breaks once every few years" is good enough for some things, but not others. When a forced update breaks something important, maybe a bank or a train system, watch the debates begin in earnest.
Again, you DON'T need to lie: 1) Did it happen?. Yes. 2) Is it often?. No, it just happened 2 or 3 times.
what kind of anal retentive asshole would not want to receive Windows security updates?
The kind that doesn't like his computer breaking randomly because MS decided they knew better for him than he did.
I never had anything broken because an update.
Why is this even an issue?
Because updates regularly break stuff for people, or change things in ways they don't want it to be changed.
Again, that is just a lie, i know MS is not very appreciated here on /., there's no need to lie though.
If I upgrade to Windows 10, I want every security update the second it comes out. Sooner, if possible.
Then you're an idiot who must have someone else do all the work to keep their computer working and have no idea what these updates actually are.
More likely, you're just a really shitty troll.
Either way, if you think this is great, you're a short sighted moron who needs to get some experience working with computers (any of them, not just ones running MS products) and then you'll understand why this is a fucking stupid idea.
Wish i saw earlier how big of an asshole you're, i would have spent time answering to a liying dick.
Who doesn't know that backdoors are there for everyone who finds them and not just those who put it there?
and quite an advantage over PS4.
Oh no, the facebook generation is reaching Slashdot.
but with a $10,000 annual paycheck, welcome to the third world.
While of course there's always room for improvement, i applaud Steam, they always seem to be the ones closer to the customers, i'm pretty sure that will pay off on the long run
Anything that claims a 100% success rate is doomed to fail, all you need is a single case to bring it down. Doing such a thing would mean a serious step forward on security. To tell the truth, i'm quite skeptical on this making any difference, at all.
Yeah, i realized that that was not the question after i posted, sorry. I don't think they have made that information available yet.
I really can't believe there's still people that need this to be explained. You get one year to update to Windows 10 for free if you have Windows 7, 8, or 8.1, after that year, it will no longer be free.
While i liked both W8 and W8.1, i still miss the Start Button.
You can't pirate PS4 and XBOne games though. The copy protection has not been cracked.
Exactly, current gen consoles are far from being hacked, and last gen took a few years to got cracked
Piracy on both LG and NG consoles is minimum compared to PC, most income came from them, not PC. Plus, why is it acceptable that since they made fortunes is OK to pirate a game?, Would you be OK if we all consider you make enough money and steal part of it?
Bullshit, stop spreading lies, nobody got banned for modding SP, they do get banned for ruining everybody's fun on MP. SP modders beware of Mods including malware.
Why are you out of office, you should be working, you lazy bastard
Again, Business apps, corporate apps, and the "because is not malicious", sure, the web is malware free, right?
Yeah, you don't need a framework to do basic things, and if you do, then your development platform is bullshit
While every platform has its own problems. I get you don't develop much on .net. Having the right framework version solves your problems, if you used a external library you must include it on the setup, if don't, well is not really a platform problem. Keeping users up to date?, if you can open a web site you clearly can download the latest version of the app. Windows versions?, are you still on 98?, .net works from XP to 8.1, and it'll work on 10.
I don't pretend anything, i was just talking about the damn UI, which is the only thing web has, Web services are just published, they run on your server, you don't need to worry about DLLs, that is if you were smart enough to don't use stupid frameworks, which required.
I'm talking about how web sites work, you disabled a button and then i press F12 and enable it again, i can mess up the entire page. What about having to "float: left" a tag to align it to the left, not to mention the stupid empty div with the clear: left/both; to keep a tag within its container.
I'm not saying is impossible, but for complex apps, the web is not the place, at least i don't find a good reason why they should be.
Yes, go tell that to the moron that makes the calls
The thing is that it never should have, that's why you need 10 different "frameworks" to do the same as a simple desktop app, and not always working, multibrowser compatibility is a utopy. After a year you spend more time making that framework salad work than actually adding new features.
Pfff, go luck trying to work with a 60 fields grid on a fucking mobile.
Web is for video playback, reading news and blogs, Business app?, desktop, using web services.
2001 called, it wants its antiquated attitude back. The web evolves: deal with it. You bitching about what the web is now isn't going to make us all suddenly go back to "video playback, reading news and blogs".
Does it evolves?, i just see you have to learn more and more frameworks that get ditched a sometime later forcing you to apply hack after hack after hack. It's called opinions, you may enjoy learning a new framework each month to do the smallest things, i really don't.
Today you need to learn Knockout, jQuery, Angular, and whatever hipsters are doing now. I could do the same with a desktop app and easily. And believe me, you don't need to apply 10 hacks for a button to be placed in the right place, you don't need to make anything float to align it to the left. I've been a web developer for 5 years, everyday, i hate it even more.
50% of the web.
Currently web developer, hate it.