Well then I'm out of choices. So much for the fucking market taking care of things.
Fuck those fucking motherfuckers, all of them.
And fuck the FCC. Burn it to the ground. The role of government is not to line their citizens up to be ass-raped by business. If I wanted to live in that kind of society I'd move to fucking mainland China.
The Founding Fathers would tar and feather Kevin Martin. He's a traitor to America.
I wonder if this has anything to do with why DNS "not found" queries suddenly started directing me to a search/advert server run by RoadRunner.
That's some evil shit. If I were a phishing enterprise I'd be watching this closely. When your own ISP is pharming you, it's just a matter of time before something evil crawls out from under a rock and takes notice.
Maybe it was me calling up "www.fuckroadrunnerdnshijackingisevil.com" and a few dozen alternatives, or maybe it was portscanning their server, or maybe they just used caller ID to call up my account, but while I was on the phone complaining to them (I refused to give them my phone number or name), they suddenly turned off the service.
True, but in the meantime one could bring a lot of attention to the issue by mass-abusing the system until it becomes enough of a problem to force them to stop.
I checked this thread just to see who made the "dumping" argument.
According to the article I read, Microsoft has been dumping Windows+Office at $3 into these markets to stunt the OPLC market share. That's dumping by any definition.
The worst was reading some guy from Libya saying they opted for Intel/MS vs OPLC because they didn't want to be a dumping ground for OPLC. Wait 10 years, let MS get their hooks in, then as soon as the competition is gone, no more $3 windows. This is how the developed world always rooks the undeveloped world. The 419ers are just a tiny bit of poetic justice by comparison - it turns out the nuclear weapon Microsoft holds is the same psychology that fuels Ponzi schemes. Just afraid to be left out of the "success" everyone else APPEARS to be having.
Sad, really, that this one official will sell his whole country out to loan sharks because he's scared of not looking like a cool kid ("no one ever got fired for buying IBM!"). Well, that and probably some well-placed bribes.
"My daughter is a fan of yours... were you trying to blow up Boston" is just silly. You have to realize, innocent or not, that once the authorities get into their heads that you are guilty, they are going to try every asinine, stupid, and ridiculous theory and game they can come up with to box you into a "guilty" position.
Once they've decided that you are a "bad guy", they generally don't apply logic or common sense except in pursuit of proving you to be a "bad guy". That's what the rules are for. That's what Miranda is for. That's what human rights are for. That's why we "give" rights to "criminals". Because all to frequently, it's the innocent we're protecting.
That's why, in the USA, we have every fucking right NOT to expect the Spanish Inquisition.
You don't always need a supermajority. For some reason, the Republicans didn't need one prior to 2006 elections.
Pelosi et. al are stupid enough to have forgotten how the game is played. If you can't get a vote to the floor, make them filibuster. Make them look like a bunch of obstructionist, whining babies who are standing in the way of good legislation because they are afraid of losing an actual vote. Argue publicly the merits of your legislation. And even if you can't put enough pressure on them to succeed in getting a vote to the floor, make a big stink and target the offenders by name.
The Republicans are more effective at this kind of Congressional Politics 101 - from a minority - than the Democrats are with many more votes.
The voters took a look at the laziest, do-nothingest Congress ever, and voted out Republicans in droves. The Democratic leadership that has resulted has failed to change anything. But that's excusable, if they simply can't assemble the votes and go down fighting.
What isn't excusable is that if they can't succeed, they don't even try. They never take a stand on values and make the GOP or the administration own up to their repugnant positions (torture, habeas corpus, wiretapping - a total repudiation of a thousand years of the best values of the West). So basically, they act like cowards and fail to stand up for values, because they don't understand that fighting to the end, even when you lose, shows strength. This is a strategy that loses any support they might find among the opposition (because they act weak), among their base (because they fail to fight for anything of value), and among the center, the independents, and the unaffiliated (because they look like a bunch of disorganized pandering losers).
That, and, of course, the fact that polls nearly ALWAYS show that people think "Congress is a bunch of son-of-a-bitches, but my Congress-critter is MY son-of-a-bitch".
Unfortunately, a disturbing number of Americans seem to think that blind obedience to authority is somehow basic citizenship and patriotic. And that the best and most foundational values of the West - valuing rights and the individual human being's dignity - is some sort of disposable convenience.
Don't be fooled - there is a major push towards conditioning Americans for authoritarian takeover.
Anyone who says that you should just do whatever the authorities tell you or surrender your basic rights - that person is a pussy, a coward, a weakling, and utterly un-American. Did the Founding Fathers value obedience to authority as the prime civic virtue? Disgusting.
Steal taxpayer dollars? Wake the fuck up. The pendulum has swung far, far in the other direction. The main beneficiaries of government freebies over the last several years are corporations. Quite literally the governement is letting bridges fall down so that rich people and powerful corprorations can get more money that they didn't earn.
And it gets worse.
Government-sponsored monopolies get to rule our broadband and give nothing back in return. Most places, most of the time, unless you want to pay hundreds a month, your bandwith is capped at 50K up. So you can suck at the tit of major media corporations, or go fuck yourself. And pay attention to net neutrality - the major broadband providers in the US, who operate virtually without competition, want to decide who gets to be on the internet and who doesn't. It could easily be the most powerful anti-freedom move in hundreds of years.
Go fuck yourself. Go back and suck the King's ass. You give not one shit about freedom.
I get your point, but you're overselling it a bit.
I don't know what you use for IM, but I'm quite happy with Kopete. I'm a FreeBSD user so maybe I miss out on some voice chat integration that's totally awesome on one distro somewhere, but I don't really care.
I used XFCE4 for a while, but at the time the taskbar apps were single threaded and just being offline made the weather applet, which was otherwise excellent, unusable.
I've used Windowmaker and Gnome.
KDE just feels less patchy for me.
But I have to say the kdewallet was a killer app for me. I have hundreds of passwords, and it allows me to manage them securely. Gnome had an imitator after a while. It didn't work when I needed it to. Went back.
Basically, Gnome usually looks prettier and acts nicely, but IMO that's due to excellent packagers and distro management. KDE is more broadly a "project" than Gnome has ever been. This does allow individual Gnome apps to be more excellent, in some examples.
KDE's bonus has been, vs Gnome, infrastructure (just look closely at how software configs have been managed for the last few years and you'll see what I mean). KDE4 shows promise for bringing all that hard work together and producing immediately appreciable results.
Funny, I must have missed the black helicopters dumping fertilizer on the forests and fields next to my house.
The whole point of cellulosic plants is that we don't have to use craploads of fertilizer and pesticides to push production of one single overengineered monoculture of corn...
That deserves a mod up. Too subtle for most to appreciate. But true.
And that's why 80 is right about right. If you need to indent that damn much, you should be refactoring. If your variable names are so freakin long, you need to refactor - your code is trying to do too damn much.
Even for reading normal prose, most websites try to prevent excessive width, as it harms readability. For code the rationale is different, but the end result is the same - too wide = illegible. If your code requires excessive width, then it is irreducibly illegible.
I'm going to leave python with it's "significant whitespace" out of this...
Libby asked not to be pardoned so he could still plead the 5th and not testify against the real criminals, still serving in the White House.
Libby was as innocent as OJ.
That you are honestly comparing Sandy Berger to the intentional outing of undercover CIA agents suggests that not only do you give a rat's ass about national security, but that you fail logic at every level.
Fitzgerald put the 1993 WTC bombers behind bars you ignorant fuck.
That's umpty-million percent more than Bush has done to combat terrorism.
Fitzgerald was, is, and always will be, a well-respected prosecutor among his peers. Kenneth Starr is a fucking joke.
How many leaks did you hear during this trial? How many leaks, per hour, did Ken Starr commit?
You haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. But you don't care, you think your nihilism and love of power is a substitute for reasoned civic discourse.
1) You lie, and you have no evidence. Furthermore, Fitzgerald could not know if this was the case because Libby was lying to him. Which is why Libby should be in jail. 2) See number one. Also, there is no "a crime was not committed so the perjury is not a crime" card. 3) See number two - lying and obstruction of justice are crimes. You don't have to prove the underlying crime, precisely because the lying and obstruction of justice prevent it. 4) The judge was firmly within federal sentencing guidelines, period.
STFU, go back under your bridge. Why do you hate America and the Rule of Law? Do you just love the arbitrary excercise of power so much you can't bear to see it criticized? Do you love the Republican party more than you love your country? Or do you just not care at all? What part of "don't out the CIA agents" is hard for you to understand? What part of "restoring honor and dignity" had you and your scumfuck compatriots crossing your fingers behind your backs back in 2000?
You would have been a Good German, back in the day. Another 10% like you and we'll get to relive those days again. Fortunately, that 10%, representing honest Republicans, seems to be holding strong against you and your ilk (the remaining 60% of Americans being poorly represented).
Presidents do not regularly pardon people who were involved in obstruction of justice regarding crimes they themselves might have been involved in. Name one time that ever happened before. Bzzzzt. Shut the fuck up, you unpatriotic bastard.
Second, of course it's obvious this president has hardly ever pardoned anyone. The facts of this case don't remotely justify the commutation of the sentence. So the political bias is more than extremely obvious.
And of course, who did Clinton get the most shit for pardoning? Mark Rich. His lawyer? Scooter Libby.
So, let's get this straight - is Scooter Libby a scumbag lawyer or a scumbag defendant? Either way he deserves to rot.
That's one good theory. Though I'm not sure that military PR types are ever known to have that type of sense of humor.
The other two possibilities are that he's telling the truth, or that the whole UFO thing is a major black propaganda op of indeterminate motive (which could include him being a witting or unwitting participant).
I'd say of the three, the odds that an army PR guy decided to take a piss on his deathbed isn't the likeliest possibility.
The idea of a silent majority among scientists can only be held by someone who doesn't know any scientists.
They have the arrogance of a BOFH and the ruthlessness of a prison gang. They'll put a shiv in your kidneys without a second thought. They equal Wall Street floor traders in pure animal snarl.
And this is a good thing, even though the primary motivation is getting more grant money. It's more competition than you find in most economic markets, by far; it's just far easier to poke a hole in someone else's theory than it is to, say, dislodge an entrenched distribution business.
This is why science works. This is why some theories - say, prions (e.g. the viral proteins that cause mad cow) - stand the test of time even with subsantial hostility, antipathy, and resistance from the scientific community. And it's why other stuff - global warming skepticism, for example - never gets traction. Because it doesn't stand up to the gauntlet/shooting-gallery of peer review.
Well then I'm out of choices. So much for the fucking market taking care of things.
Fuck those fucking motherfuckers, all of them.
And fuck the FCC. Burn it to the ground. The role of government is not to line their citizens up to be ass-raped by business. If I wanted to live in that kind of society I'd move to fucking mainland China.
The Founding Fathers would tar and feather Kevin Martin. He's a traitor to America.
I wonder if this has anything to do with why DNS "not found" queries suddenly started directing me to a search/advert server run by RoadRunner.
That's some evil shit. If I were a phishing enterprise I'd be watching this closely. When your own ISP is pharming you, it's just a matter of time before something evil crawls out from under a rock and takes notice.
Maybe it was me calling up "www.fuckroadrunnerdnshijackingisevil.com" and a few dozen alternatives, or maybe it was portscanning their server, or maybe they just used caller ID to call up my account, but while I was on the phone complaining to them (I refused to give them my phone number or name), they suddenly turned off the service.
I think I'll be switching to DSL soon.
Your optimism regarding other languages suggests inexperience. The majority of coders write total shit in all languages.
Might as well invite the Communist Party of China, as long as you're collecting people who favor restrictions on what you can see.
True, but in the meantime one could bring a lot of attention to the issue by mass-abusing the system until it becomes enough of a problem to force them to stop.
Well done.
Well put. But I have a patent on responding to talking-through-hat with factual claims.
Give me money now please.
I checked this thread just to see who made the "dumping" argument.
According to the article I read, Microsoft has been dumping Windows+Office at $3 into these markets to stunt the OPLC market share. That's dumping by any definition.
The worst was reading some guy from Libya saying they opted for Intel/MS vs OPLC because they didn't want to be a dumping ground for OPLC. Wait 10 years, let MS get their hooks in, then as soon as the competition is gone, no more $3 windows. This is how the developed world always rooks the undeveloped world. The 419ers are just a tiny bit of poetic justice by comparison - it turns out the nuclear weapon Microsoft holds is the same psychology that fuels Ponzi schemes. Just afraid to be left out of the "success" everyone else APPEARS to be having.
Sad, really, that this one official will sell his whole country out to loan sharks because he's scared of not looking like a cool kid ("no one ever got fired for buying IBM!"). Well, that and probably some well-placed bribes.
Well put.
"My daughter is a fan of yours... were you trying to blow up Boston" is just silly. You have to realize, innocent or not, that once the authorities get into their heads that you are guilty, they are going to try every asinine, stupid, and ridiculous theory and game they can come up with to box you into a "guilty" position.
Once they've decided that you are a "bad guy", they generally don't apply logic or common sense except in pursuit of proving you to be a "bad guy". That's what the rules are for. That's what Miranda is for. That's what human rights are for. That's why we "give" rights to "criminals". Because all to frequently, it's the innocent we're protecting.
That's why, in the USA, we have every fucking right NOT to expect the Spanish Inquisition.
You don't always need a supermajority. For some reason, the Republicans didn't need one prior to 2006 elections.
Pelosi et. al are stupid enough to have forgotten how the game is played. If you can't get a vote to the floor, make them filibuster. Make them look like a bunch of obstructionist, whining babies who are standing in the way of good legislation because they are afraid of losing an actual vote. Argue publicly the merits of your legislation. And even if you can't put enough pressure on them to succeed in getting a vote to the floor, make a big stink and target the offenders by name.
The Republicans are more effective at this kind of Congressional Politics 101 - from a minority - than the Democrats are with many more votes.
To summarize:
The voters took a look at the laziest, do-nothingest Congress ever, and voted out Republicans in droves. The Democratic leadership that has resulted has failed to change anything. But that's excusable, if they simply can't assemble the votes and go down fighting.
What isn't excusable is that if they can't succeed, they don't even try. They never take a stand on values and make the GOP or the administration own up to their repugnant positions (torture, habeas corpus, wiretapping - a total repudiation of a thousand years of the best values of the West). So basically, they act like cowards and fail to stand up for values, because they don't understand that fighting to the end, even when you lose, shows strength. This is a strategy that loses any support they might find among the opposition (because they act weak), among their base (because they fail to fight for anything of value), and among the center, the independents, and the unaffiliated (because they look like a bunch of disorganized pandering losers).
That, and, of course, the fact that polls nearly ALWAYS show that people think "Congress is a bunch of son-of-a-bitches, but my Congress-critter is MY son-of-a-bitch".
Unfortunately, a disturbing number of Americans seem to think that blind obedience to authority is somehow basic citizenship and patriotic. And that the best and most foundational values of the West - valuing rights and the individual human being's dignity - is some sort of disposable convenience.
Don't be fooled - there is a major push towards conditioning Americans for authoritarian takeover.
Anyone who says that you should just do whatever the authorities tell you or surrender your basic rights - that person is a pussy, a coward, a weakling, and utterly un-American. Did the Founding Fathers value obedience to authority as the prime civic virtue? Disgusting.
That is, if they can find you. You could be sniping them from a building above the action and they might never figure out where you are.
This is truly a double-edged sword - as is most technology. But I doubt the truncheon-swingers will figure that out quickly.
Go fuck yourself.
Steal taxpayer dollars? Wake the fuck up. The pendulum has swung far, far in the other direction. The main beneficiaries of government freebies over the last several years are corporations. Quite literally the governement is letting bridges fall down so that rich people and powerful corprorations can get more money that they didn't earn.
And it gets worse.
Government-sponsored monopolies get to rule our broadband and give nothing back in return. Most places, most of the time, unless you want to pay hundreds a month, your bandwith is capped at 50K up. So you can suck at the tit of major media corporations, or go fuck yourself. And pay attention to net neutrality - the major broadband providers in the US, who operate virtually without competition, want to decide who gets to be on the internet and who doesn't. It could easily be the most powerful anti-freedom move in hundreds of years.
Go fuck yourself. Go back and suck the King's ass. You give not one shit about freedom.
I get your point, but you're overselling it a bit.
I don't know what you use for IM, but I'm quite happy with Kopete. I'm a FreeBSD user so maybe I miss out on some voice chat integration that's totally awesome on one distro somewhere, but I don't really care.
I used XFCE4 for a while, but at the time the taskbar apps were single threaded and just being offline made the weather applet, which was otherwise excellent, unusable.
I've used Windowmaker and Gnome.
KDE just feels less patchy for me.
But I have to say the kdewallet was a killer app for me. I have hundreds of passwords, and it allows me to manage them securely. Gnome had an imitator after a while. It didn't work when I needed it to. Went back.
Basically, Gnome usually looks prettier and acts nicely, but IMO that's due to excellent packagers and distro management. KDE is more broadly a "project" than Gnome has ever been. This does allow individual Gnome apps to be more excellent, in some examples.
KDE's bonus has been, vs Gnome, infrastructure (just look closely at how software configs have been managed for the last few years and you'll see what I mean). KDE4 shows promise for bringing all that hard work together and producing immediately appreciable results.
Funny, I must have missed the black helicopters dumping fertilizer on the forests and fields next to my house.
The whole point of cellulosic plants is that we don't have to use craploads of fertilizer and pesticides to push production of one single overengineered monoculture of corn...
That deserves a mod up. Too subtle for most to appreciate. But true.
And that's why 80 is right about right. If you need to indent that damn much, you should be refactoring. If your variable names are so freakin long, you need to refactor - your code is trying to do too damn much.
Even for reading normal prose, most websites try to prevent excessive width, as it harms readability. For code the rationale is different, but the end result is the same - too wide = illegible. If your code requires excessive width, then it is irreducibly illegible.
I'm going to leave python with it's "significant whitespace" out of this...
Libby asked not to be pardoned so he could still plead the 5th and not testify against the real criminals, still serving in the White House.
Libby was as innocent as OJ.
That you are honestly comparing Sandy Berger to the intentional outing of undercover CIA agents suggests that not only do you give a rat's ass about national security, but that you fail logic at every level.
Fitzgerald put the 1993 WTC bombers behind bars you ignorant fuck.
That's umpty-million percent more than Bush has done to combat terrorism.
Fitzgerald was, is, and always will be, a well-respected prosecutor among his peers. Kenneth Starr is a fucking joke.
How many leaks did you hear during this trial? How many leaks, per hour, did Ken Starr commit?
You haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. But you don't care, you think your nihilism and love of power is a substitute for reasoned civic discourse.
Let's try agaiun
1) You lie, and you have no evidence. Furthermore, Fitzgerald could not know if this was the case because Libby was lying to him. Which is why Libby should be in jail.
2) See number one. Also, there is no "a crime was not committed so the perjury is not a crime" card.
3) See number two - lying and obstruction of justice are crimes. You don't have to prove the underlying crime, precisely because the lying and obstruction of justice prevent it.
4) The judge was firmly within federal sentencing guidelines, period.
STFU, go back under your bridge. Why do you hate America and the Rule of Law? Do you just love the arbitrary excercise of power so much you can't bear to see it criticized? Do you love the Republican party more than you love your country? Or do you just not care at all? What part of "don't out the CIA agents" is hard for you to understand? What part of "restoring honor and dignity" had you and your scumfuck compatriots crossing your fingers behind your backs back in 2000?
You would have been a Good German, back in the day. Another 10% like you and we'll get to relive those days again. Fortunately, that 10%, representing honest Republicans, seems to be holding strong against you and your ilk (the remaining 60% of Americans being poorly represented).
Because no sane person thinks that a pardon should be granted to cover up the crimes of oneself or one's subordinates. Because that would be retarded.
You stupid fuck. Go back to junior high, because obviously you failed basic civics, as well as the last thousand years of history.
You can blame Rich's lawyer, Scooter Libby.
You unpatriotic turd.
There was no quid pro quo apparent there. But Scooter is still covering up for the criminals in the Oval Office, in a blatant quid pro quo.
Bullshit.
Presidents do not regularly pardon people who were involved in obstruction of justice regarding crimes they themselves might have been involved in. Name one time that ever happened before. Bzzzzt. Shut the fuck up, you unpatriotic bastard.
Second, of course it's obvious this president has hardly ever pardoned anyone. The facts of this case don't remotely justify the commutation of the sentence. So the political bias is more than extremely obvious.
And of course, who did Clinton get the most shit for pardoning? Mark Rich. His lawyer? Scooter Libby.
So, let's get this straight - is Scooter Libby a scumbag lawyer or a scumbag defendant? Either way he deserves to rot.
That's one good theory. Though I'm not sure that military PR types are ever known to have that type of sense of humor.
The other two possibilities are that he's telling the truth, or that the whole UFO thing is a major black propaganda op of indeterminate motive (which could include him being a witting or unwitting participant).
I'd say of the three, the odds that an army PR guy decided to take a piss on his deathbed isn't the likeliest possibility.
I have to agree with you whole-heartedly.
The idea of a silent majority among scientists can only be held by someone who doesn't know any scientists.
They have the arrogance of a BOFH and the ruthlessness of a prison gang. They'll put a shiv in your kidneys without a second thought. They equal Wall Street floor traders in pure animal snarl.
And this is a good thing, even though the primary motivation is getting more grant money. It's more competition than you find in most economic markets, by far; it's just far easier to poke a hole in someone else's theory than it is to, say, dislodge an entrenched distribution business.
This is why science works. This is why some theories - say, prions (e.g. the viral proteins that cause mad cow) - stand the test of time even with subsantial hostility, antipathy, and resistance from the scientific community. And it's why other stuff - global warming skepticism, for example - never gets traction. Because it doesn't stand up to the gauntlet/shooting-gallery of peer review.