Yes I'm an OS bigot too... plus I'm an application segragist. Only mail readers should be able to read mail. Not my editor, web browser, cell phone ( with web browsing technology ), toaster and french poodle.
Really though, this is good for the community, at least get people to ask wtf is this cd?
Not to troll too badly, but sounds to me like almost everybody here is an OS bigot. It is terribly uncool for Microsoft to package their OS with anything, yet it is great for Corel to do it because it is Linux. I bet this wouldn't be a good thing if it were a flavor of Windows.
Now to be fair, this isn't a full system and it isn't being forced down my throat on a hard drive. Certainly I have the option of pitching these disks in the dumpster if I don't accept the liscence as opposed to MS's mandatory compliance.
Heck, even I tried to return my copy of Windows 9x to Toshiba and Microsoft and neither of them wanted it. I could've used the cash too, oh well. I'll assume that Corel is giving this for 'free' as marketing so I can't return it for cash either, but again this is different.
Anyone happen to know or have a gander at what the terms are for this distribution agreement?
Okay, so I lied, that stuff does interest me and I did look:).
Yeah, some of that stuff looks like what my friends and I looked at and played with at RIT. Well okay, they played and I got to BS with them and see the wafers. Not really the same as doing it is it?:)
Trust me, there is *plenty* of room for silicon to still grow. As I recall, the highest frequency you can get the silicon to work at is roughly 1.6 Ghz. Yes this figure is being rapidly approached... but that number also corresponds to how many cycles a CPU has to perform given operations.
For some quick math, assume your average instruction takes 10 cycles on this processor, that mean you can perform 160,000,000 instructions in one second. That's quite a few, but if you can get your average instruction to take 9 cycles, you can now run 177,777,777 instructions per second. That is a ten percent speed increase due to optimization of the instruction set.
If you can manage to get a FISC CPU running all instructions in 1 clock cycle, then you can run 1,600,000,000 instructions in a second.
Other areas of technology can also increase this number. Adding execution pipes to the processor so you can execute multiple instructions at the same time can greatly increase the speed of the processor ( to what factor I have no idea, with a good compilor I still doubt it gets anywhere close to double ). I think the Power PC has three execution pipes which *could* effectively triple your execution time, but I highly doubt that.
Increasing cache speed and memory lookup times will speed up the amount of time that a processor has to sit around idle twiddling it's thumbs waiting for the next instruction or the next piece of data to get to it.
"Best guess" compilors have the ability to start executing code that it thinks has a higher probability of executing so when you make the decision on a statement you're ahead of the game.
I'm sure there is a lot more technology being looked at to increase the speed of a processor, and I really doubt that the most research is going into non-silicon based products.
Sorry to all you computer engineers out there for not using proper terms and probably bungling concepts, I am a lowly computer scientist and don't really care so much how it works as that it works consistently. So if you want to tell me my head from my ass you are more than welcome to:)
It seems to me that BSD is a rather low profile operating system, but it would certainly be my choice over Linux. Was the decision to use Linux made to increase awareness about operating system alternatives or even to increase awareness to the open source community?
oh, I thought that one was non-complete. I suffer from a non-complete dating prowess. I can get the first date, but apparently my good looks, charm and income aren't all they are cracked up to be.
I was about ready to bow down to a great master who understood the inner workings of nature and the universe. I was ready for you to teach me that video and audio signals are really the same thing just interpretted in different ways. In a word I wanted to learn about context... but then I realized you had made a typo.
The reason that qt and other things are not fully GPL'd is probably due to 'artistic' control. If Netscape was to GPL Mozilla anybody could roll their own.
Basically it depends if you are a control freak or not. I've been thinking of releasing some source code under the GPL, but it is scary. What if somebody a split occurs, or worse still somebody just takes over the project and becomes the 'official' source.
I think most of the problems people have with the GPL is the lack of control they can exert after putting it out to the public. I'm still not sure if I like GPL'ing or BSD'ing code yet. I'll still have to think on that.
This isn't anything new being done here. TurboLinux might have modified the kernel internals a bit and that is fine. As most Linux users know, you probably have no reason to go get the latest and greatest kernel anyway. If what you have now works fine then don't upgrade.
Users that choose to use TurboLinux should be made aware of the fact that these aren't 'official' kernel patches though. But as long as TurboLinux doesn't have to make an 'unofficial' kernel patch for every major kernel release I'd think that we'd be fine.
If the technology is cool enough to drive sales for TurboLinux anyway then more than likely it will be added into the basic kernel distribution wether TurboLinux or somebody else does it. Just because TurboLinux is showing us the way doesn't mean they have to provide the only solution.
Given enough market demand this will be included into Linux, otherwise it will take the back seat and get done when somebody is bored enough or wants an interesting project.
Exactly, and to take this to the next logical step you can then have criminal profiling so that if somebody exhibits a certain behavioral traits you can just lock them up in jail before they do any 'real' damage.
IIRC there was a Maxx Headrom (sp?) about this topic. A man was arrested for a crime that they didn't have evidence to convict him, but his 'profile' fit. He just happened to have certain knowledge that made it plausible for him to do the crime.
With this sort of technology innocent until proven guilty goes out the door.
What we as slashdot readers ought to do is band together. The easiest way to make a patent now-a-days is to just stick the word web or the letter in front of everything and you can have a patent for it.
Now we can have great things like eToaster, which is obviously *much* better than standard Toasters. Why is this? Because you can use a web browser to do an electronic transaction with your eToaster from your webbed(patent pending) to order some Toast.com.
Not only all this, but I think we could patent concepts too. How about eLogic? Heck why settle for that when we could patent the entire language with webEnglish!
Another thing that I find tiresome is companies that insist on being 'savy' by putting.com at the end of their name so they appear to be one company, but they are in reality something else. Why don't we create companies like cocacola.com or intel.com it makes sense to me!
So why not do Amazon.com one better. We can create a e-one-click-shopping and we'll create Amazon.com.com, that'll show 'em!
Well if you are using the UART a lot you are going to suck the batteries dead. Once you start using the device for work (hehe) and not doing so many hotsyncs to get all the neatest and greatest programs you'll probably see much longer battery life. I go for about two to three months without changing the batteries now.
Don't think of it in *those* terms, think of it from ABC or NBC's perspective. This would be a great way for them to destroy CBS's show. They are technically out of US jurisdiction so they can do whatever they want. I'm all for live cluster bombing on tv. That would be the best! They just need to make sure this special operative also has one of those cool 'crazy guy' laughs that makes your spine chill. Yeah baby yeah... blow up the baby seals and make coral snake pit traps!
1. Java has developers... where else did the Compiler and VM come from? I am not 100% sure if blackdown offers a open sourced Java VM, but I know that there are others doing it.
2. There are several open source movements for Java. Come on, you can't have truly open standards anyway. The linux kernel is rather tightly guarded as to what are the 'official' releases. Sure you can patch the hell out of the kernel yourself, but don't expect Linus to okay just anything. That is why we have *stable* kernels. So Sun having control over Java is a good thing, because when it comes to the final say on what stays and what goes somebody has to do it.
Yes, it might cost me $5.6 billion to buy all of the existing Red Hat stock but Red Hat didn't make nearly that much. Obviously when they did their IPO they greatly under estimated the value of their stock. When Red Hat went public the should have been selling stock for pennies under it's value, not seventy dollars.
I was rather confused by this myself. JonKatz doesn't usually seem like the 'hip' geek who is 'with it'. I'm not so sure I really understand which issues of Wired he's been reading, but I must imagine it must've been from the first handful of ground breaking years and not the last disgusting blatant advertisement years.
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you mean father Al Gore?
and what better market to hit than the people who already put their own computers together...
Yeah Yeah... I know, it is different.
Yes I'm an OS bigot too... plus I'm an application segragist. Only mail readers should be able to read mail. Not my editor, web browser, cell phone ( with web browsing technology ), toaster and french poodle.
Really though, this is good for the community, at least get people to ask wtf is this cd?
Not to troll too badly, but sounds to me like almost everybody here is an OS bigot. It is terribly uncool for Microsoft to package their OS with anything, yet it is great for Corel to do it because it is Linux. I bet this wouldn't be a good thing if it were a flavor of Windows.
Now to be fair, this isn't a full system and it isn't being forced down my throat on a hard drive. Certainly I have the option of pitching these disks in the dumpster if I don't accept the liscence as opposed to MS's mandatory compliance.
Heck, even I tried to return my copy of Windows 9x to Toshiba and Microsoft and neither of them wanted it. I could've used the cash too, oh well. I'll assume that Corel is giving this for 'free' as marketing so I can't return it for cash either, but again this is different.
Anyone happen to know or have a gander at what the terms are for this distribution agreement?
Okay, so I lied, that stuff does interest me and I did look :).
:)
Yeah, some of that stuff looks like what my friends and I looked at and played with at RIT. Well okay, they played and I got to BS with them and see the wafers. Not really the same as doing it is it?
Trust me, there is *plenty* of room for silicon to still grow. As I recall, the highest frequency you can get the silicon to work at is roughly 1.6 Ghz. Yes this figure is being rapidly approached... but that number also corresponds to how many cycles a CPU has to perform given operations.
:)
For some quick math, assume your average instruction takes 10 cycles on this processor, that mean you can perform 160,000,000 instructions in one second. That's quite a few, but if you can get your average instruction to take 9 cycles, you can now run 177,777,777 instructions per second. That is a ten percent speed increase due to optimization of the instruction set.
If you can manage to get a FISC CPU running all instructions in 1 clock cycle, then you can run 1,600,000,000 instructions in a second.
Other areas of technology can also increase this number. Adding execution pipes to the processor so you can execute multiple instructions at the same time can greatly increase the speed of the processor ( to what factor I have no idea, with a good compilor I still doubt it gets anywhere close to double ). I think the Power PC has three execution pipes which *could* effectively triple your execution time, but I highly doubt that.
Increasing cache speed and memory lookup times will speed up the amount of time that a processor has to sit around idle twiddling it's thumbs waiting for the next instruction or the next piece of data to get to it.
"Best guess" compilors have the ability to start executing code that it thinks has a higher probability of executing so when you make the decision on a statement you're ahead of the game.
I'm sure there is a lot more technology being looked at to increase the speed of a processor, and I really doubt that the most research is going into non-silicon based products.
Sorry to all you computer engineers out there for not using proper terms and probably bungling concepts, I am a lowly computer scientist and don't really care so much how it works as that it works consistently. So if you want to tell me my head from my ass you are more than welcome to
It seems to me that BSD is a rather low profile operating system, but it would certainly be my choice over Linux. Was the decision to use Linux made to increase awareness about operating system alternatives or even to increase awareness to the open source community?
this is rather silly. I mean if I wanted integrated peripherals I would have bought an iToilet thingy...
oh, I thought that one was non-complete. I suffer from a non-complete dating prowess. I can get the first date, but apparently my good looks, charm and income aren't all they are cracked up to be.
I was about ready to bow down to a great master who understood the inner workings of nature and the universe. I was ready for you to teach me that video and audio signals are really the same thing just interpretted in different ways. In a word I wanted to learn about context... but then I realized you had made a typo.
err... What if someday a split occurs...
I really ought to preview or at least re-read my replies... *before* I submit them.
The reason that qt and other things are not fully GPL'd is probably due to 'artistic' control. If Netscape was to GPL Mozilla anybody could roll their own.
Basically it depends if you are a control freak or not. I've been thinking of releasing some source code under the GPL, but it is scary. What if somebody a split occurs, or worse still somebody just takes over the project and becomes the 'official' source.
I think most of the problems people have with the GPL is the lack of control they can exert after putting it out to the public. I'm still not sure if I like GPL'ing or BSD'ing code yet. I'll still have to think on that.
Does that mean that people will then suffer Venus envy?
Users that choose to use TurboLinux should be made aware of the fact that these aren't 'official' kernel patches though. But as long as TurboLinux doesn't have to make an 'unofficial' kernel patch for every major kernel release I'd think that we'd be fine.
If the technology is cool enough to drive sales for TurboLinux anyway then more than likely it will be added into the basic kernel distribution wether TurboLinux or somebody else does it. Just because TurboLinux is showing us the way doesn't mean they have to provide the only solution.
Given enough market demand this will be included into Linux, otherwise it will take the back seat and get done when somebody is bored enough or wants an interesting project.
IIRC there was a Maxx Headrom (sp?) about this topic. A man was arrested for a crime that they didn't have evidence to convict him, but his 'profile' fit. He just happened to have certain knowledge that made it plausible for him to do the crime.
With this sort of technology innocent until proven guilty goes out the door.
Now we can have great things like eToaster, which is obviously *much* better than standard Toasters. Why is this? Because you can use a web browser to do an electronic transaction with your eToaster from your webbed(patent pending) to order some Toast.com.
Not only all this, but I think we could patent concepts too. How about eLogic? Heck why settle for that when we could patent the entire language with webEnglish!
Another thing that I find tiresome is companies that insist on being 'savy' by putting .com at the end of their name so they appear to be one company, but they are in reality something else. Why don't we create companies like cocacola.com or intel.com it makes sense to me!
So why not do Amazon.com one better. We can create a e-one-click-shopping and we'll create Amazon.com.com, that'll show 'em!
I guess this finishes my e-rant. Till next time!
Obviously you haven't gotten your Transmeta system yet. You just sound bitter.
Well if you are using the UART a lot you are going to suck the batteries dead. Once you start using the device for work (hehe) and not doing so many hotsyncs to get all the neatest and greatest programs you'll probably see much longer battery life. I go for about two to three months without changing the batteries now.
Don't think of it in *those* terms, think of it from ABC or NBC's perspective. This would be a great way for them to destroy CBS's show. They are technically out of US jurisdiction so they can do whatever they want. I'm all for live cluster bombing on tv. That would be the best! They just need to make sure this special operative also has one of those cool 'crazy guy' laughs that makes your spine chill. Yeah baby yeah... blow up the baby seals and make coral snake pit traps!
Yes, but at least they aren't smoking to look cool. But who knows, instead of lung cancer maybe they will get brain cancer.
Yeah, useful like shutting up or not breathing.
1. Java has developers... where else did the Compiler and VM come from? I am not 100% sure if blackdown offers a open sourced Java VM, but I know that there are others doing it.
2. There are several open source movements for Java. Come on, you can't have truly open standards anyway. The linux kernel is rather tightly guarded as to what are the 'official' releases. Sure you can patch the hell out of the kernel yourself, but don't expect Linus to okay just anything. That is why we have *stable* kernels. So Sun having control over Java is a good thing, because when it comes to the final say on what stays and what goes somebody has to do it.
Yes, it might cost me $5.6 billion to buy all of the existing Red Hat stock but Red Hat didn't make nearly that much. Obviously when they did their IPO they greatly under estimated the value of their stock. When Red Hat went public the should have been selling stock for pennies under it's value, not seventy dollars.
:)
Can't journalists get this straight?
You might note that you posted to the wrong article... but as a side issue:
With quantum computing does that mean we could only view the contents of a Micros~1 Word document or modify them but not both?
I was rather confused by this myself. JonKatz doesn't usually seem like the 'hip' geek who is 'with it'. I'm not so sure I really understand which issues of Wired he's been reading, but I must imagine it must've been from the first handful of ground breaking years and not the last disgusting blatant advertisement years.
Keep up the good work Rob!!