It's called a Mac. Look into it. I tell all my newbie friends to buy a mac and don't bother with anything else. When they come over I let them fiddle with my themes and they LOVE that but I would not subject them to trying to set up PPP or nothing.
I don't understand how any governmental institution could trust their top secrets to an operating system they don't have the source code to. Even countries that are allies spy on each other (US and Israel for example). How can the British government be sure that some code did not lurk in there that could be used to reveal secrets. How can our own government be sure that some spy did not infiltrate M$ and is planting back doors to be used against us.
When lives of soldiers are at stake it is imperitive to be 100% sure.
I think a BSD based system is the best bet for any government. They have the source and are not obligated to share any enhancements they make to the OS.
Where you shop and how you spend your money is in many ways more important then how you vote. I started shopping at Amazon because as a protest against BN and their M$ like tactics against small bookstores. Now I shop at Powells.
Corel is trying becuase it recognized the value of Linux long before any other corporation did. Now that the bandwagon is rolling and every tom dick and harry is jumping on it is easy to overlook this fact.
As to why corel is trying I think the answer is simple. It is just about impossible to compete with M$ in the windows marketplace and corel sees Linux as an opportunity to sell their software without competing with M$. They are corporation and this is a wise and prudent thing for them to do. In fact Corel saw this before everyone else did.
If linux is a community then you ought to treat members of your community better. If they make a mistake (especially if it was an honest one) you correct them gently. If they deserve critisicm then you critisize constructively. Instead we seem to want to beat the crap out of them at every opportunity.
Sure Corel ought to participate in slashdot (actually does any other corporation do so regularly?) but let's be honest they shouldn't Have to. Also I think it might be little naive to say that slashdot is the open source community. Open source is bigger then slashdot.
Needless to say I agree with you 100% but too bad this discussion is taking place in a dead thread. I wonder how we can get it discussed by a wider audience. I think it needs to be done.
I don't know why everybody is so eager to bash Corel at every opportunity As far as I am concerned they need to be supported by the Open source movement 100%. Here are a few facts.
corel contributes both money and manpower for important open source projects (ie Wine)
Corel chose Debian as a base. According to slashdot polls the Debian distro is the best but it was very difficult to install or set up for the average user. Corel needs to be applauded for their efforts to put a higher degree of usability to Debian.
Corel was amongst the first major software companies to embrace Linux. they ported Wordperfect before any other major software company ported anything else. They are about to port their entire suite over soon. Where is IBM with smartsuite? Where is MS?
If they port Paradox over they will bring a sorely needed desktop database and a RAD database front end tool to Linux.
I know there is a large number of people who believe that all software on Linux must be open source but I disagree. There has to be both. competition is good. By continually bashing one of the early adopters of Linux you are sending a signal to all other commercial software companies. Don't come here. Don't help us, don't contribute because we will pound on you no matter what you do. We will ignore every positive thing you have done and instead zero in on every little mistake. Oh yea we will also threaten to sue you once in while just for good measure.
Is a front end tool for databases a-la Microsoft access. Every small (and large) business needs a database app and there is HUGE cottage industry of independant consultants who do nothing but churn out one access app after another. Think of the power of running headless X stations to access a robust server with a postgresql or oracle back end. Letf face it as good as php/mod_perl are HTML can not provide the same degree of friendliness or help to a data entry person.
I am waiting anxiously for Corel to post Paradox to linux I think it will be huge leap forward if the Linux version is anywhere close to what the windows version was (minus the crashing of course).
It's true that we a need to keep state in writing out web apps but maybe we should retink this whole web app thing in the first place. Trying to write a serious commerce app over a stateless anonymous protocol is a recipe for disaster. What we need is another protocol for delivering code over the net and leave http for delivering content. Something like RMI but language independent if possible.
BTW I know CORBA is language independent but honestly it's bit complicated for the average developer. HTML was great because it was so simple to learn and effective at what it wanted to accomplish.
Not only that but they tried their damnest to get as many hackers in on the deal as possible. What this means is that a sizable percent of RH stockholders are hackers! This is very assuring for me.
They bought the stupid RSA license and now you can use a secure apache for a hundred bucks (plus the key of course). This is a very significant although much overlooked developement. Now we don't have to pay stronghold a thousand dollars.
I would say that most unions are probably OK but even if you are right then what? Are you suggesting that each individual fight a corporation by himself? Yea me against Times/Warner I got a chance huh? A corporation (especially if it owns media) is all powerful. You need the might of thousands if not millions to fight it and even then you will be likely to get killed or thrown in jail.
"now in this case nothing illegal has occurred... he was not charged with anything, the FBI _asked_ the ISP to take down the site, the ISP prob had a clause in the contract that allowed them to do so at anytime, provided they handed back that month's money or whatever... and that is what happened."
The problem is that FBI can coerce someone to shut down a web site just by asking. They know nobody wants to be dragged to court so they make a couple of vauge threats in the process of asking and voila no pesky court orders or that stupid constitution getting in the way. One can only hear the conversation now...
If you don't shut down that site we will comb through your web servers till we find some child pornography you don't want that do happen do you? We will give your name to the IRS for an audit. You don't want that to happen do you? Look what happened to the people who got in Ken Starr's way, they are all in debt up to their necks. you don't want that to happen do you? So won't you please take that web site down. Good boy now go sit.
I disagree. You can write some serious spaghetti code in VB. VB almost forces you to use a lot of global variables. OOP in vb is absolutely horrible
The only way to write maintanable code in VB is to use some other language to write activeX controls and use VB to script them. Everytime I write in VB I feel like sticking toothpicks into my eyeballs.
The law already makes judgments like that. Killing a cop or a federal officer will get you a harsher sentence. The law sees this as a more serious matter then killing you or your wife. The law is not blind and does make judgements on who was killed, how they were killed, and what the motivation and intent of the killer were. Hate crimes is nothing special just a modification of scope.
Motivation and intent are a HUGE part of our criminal system. What's the difference between manslaughter and murder? Look into it before you spout off.
It won't matter in serious cases like this. Where it will matter is when someone paints a shwastika on somebodies house. The current law will treat this as a simple act of vandalism whereas a hate crimes legislation will elevate the crime to something more serious. When someone burns a cross on your lawn they do a lot more damage then a few burnt blades of grass.
Do you know of a document that compares Postgresql to MS SQL 7.0? I am looking for a features comparison as well as a speed comparison. I have read a bit of the manual for Postgresql and combed through their site a bit but I can't seem to find such a document.
IANAL but from what what I understand it's just about impossible to appeal findings of fact. So far MS has not been found guilty of breaking any law. The judgement if it goes against MS can be appealed though.
It is hard to install. The latest version asks you which IDE interface, which device your CD rom is plugged into. How many people know that off the top of their heads. It also does almost no hardware detection. Definately not for newbies. Having installed all of the popular Linux and a few *BSD distributions many times I'd say that debian is the hardest for the average user (if not impossible). Having said all that I think it's also the most logical install procedure (install just enough to dselect the rest). Dselect of course rocks and the whole debian project is very well conceived and executed. I am looking forward to the corel distro.
If you want to know how valid treaties are just ask the indians. Most treaties are worthless pieces of junk. Who is going to enforce them the UN? That's a laugh isn't it. The fact is in international politics might makes right. As long as we got the arms, nukes, and the willingness to use them the rest of the world has to do what we say. Now that Russia is just a discarded shell of an empire they can not stop us from doing anything we want to.
Lets say that in your area the going rate for consultants is $75.00. Use this as a baseline. Next ask yourself "how much do I want to do this". If you are not very excited about the project bid higher (say $100.00) if you get the job at least you'll have incentive to finish it. If you really want the job bid less (say $60.00). Don't bid too low they will dimiss you. Same goes for "how much do I like these people". Oh yea if anybody complains about the price leave immediately. If you lowball them you are going to have a very hard time finishing this project and your reputaion is going to suffer. Most likely they will try to get out of paying you too.
One of my Network Engineer friends told me this story.
A large insurance company with offices in Chicago had outsourced their IT dept. One day the said Engineer got a call from the dallas branch wondering why it was taking so long for the workstations to boot (2 hours!). He was able to trace the problem down to the fact that for some insane (and unknown to him) reason the dallas PCs were authenticating against the Chicago servers.
This is a silly argument. If it were true it would apply to everything which is subject to competition. The price would drop, profits would wither etc. Having low cost (or free) alternatives keeps the businesses honest and competitive. It prevents them from gauging the consumers and that a Good Thing.
FreeBSD is most definately not for beginners. If you are a win98 user go get yourself a copy of caldera 2.3. Pop the CD into your drive and less then a half hour later you will have a nice, slick linux system that you can play around with. Keep your win98 partition for running your current apps and try the apps in Linux. After using both of them for a while you may prefer linux. If you don't prefer it just wipe it out and all you are out is $30.00. I would recommend against getting a cheap bytes version unless you also buy some application CDs too. The commercial Caldera box comes with both Star office and Applixware and you can try them out to see if you like them.Most people use a computer mainly for word processing, spreadsheets, email and web browsing. You will find Linux very good at these functions. If you have a fairly fast internet connection you can also download some images and do an over the internet install of RH6.1. Then go visit Anywhere office from applix and you can use their java based office suite for free. I think you will find it more then adequate for most of your needs. Whereever you are there is probably a Linux users group, go to one of the meetings and you will find lots of friendly knowledgable people who are just dying to help you out. Good luck and welcome to the adventure.
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It's called a Mac. Look into it.
I tell all my newbie friends to buy a mac and don't bother with anything else. When they come over I let them fiddle with my themes and they LOVE that but I would not subject them to trying to set up PPP or nothing.
I don't understand how any governmental institution could trust their top secrets to an operating system they don't have the source code to. Even countries that are allies spy on each other (US and Israel for example). How can the British government be sure that some code did not lurk in there that could be used to reveal secrets. How can our own government be sure that some spy did not infiltrate M$ and is planting back doors to be used against us.
When lives of soldiers are at stake it is imperitive to be 100% sure.
I think a BSD based system is the best bet for any government. They have the source and are not obligated to share any enhancements they make to the OS.
Where you shop and how you spend your money is in many ways more important then how you vote. I started shopping at Amazon because as a protest against BN and their M$ like tactics against small bookstores. Now I shop at Powells.
Corel is trying becuase it recognized the value of Linux long before any other corporation did. Now that the bandwagon is rolling and every tom dick and harry is jumping on it is easy to overlook this fact.
As to why corel is trying I think the answer is simple. It is just about impossible to compete with M$ in the windows marketplace and corel sees Linux as an opportunity to sell their software without competing with M$. They are corporation and this is a wise and prudent thing for them to do. In fact Corel saw this before everyone else did.
If linux is a community then you ought to treat members of your community better. If they make a mistake (especially if it was an honest one) you correct them gently. If they deserve critisicm then you critisize constructively. Instead we seem to want to beat the crap out of them at every opportunity.
Sure Corel ought to participate in slashdot (actually does any other corporation do so regularly?) but let's be honest they shouldn't Have to. Also I think it might be little naive to say that slashdot is the open source community. Open source is bigger then slashdot.
Needless to say I agree with you 100% but too bad this discussion is taking place in a dead thread. I wonder how we can get it discussed by a wider audience. I think it needs to be done.
I know there is a large number of people who believe that all software on Linux must be open source but I disagree. There has to be both. competition is good. By continually bashing one of the early adopters of Linux you are sending a signal to all other commercial software companies. Don't come here. Don't help us, don't contribute because we will pound on you no matter what you do. We will ignore every positive thing you have done and instead zero in on every little mistake. Oh yea we will also threaten to sue you once in while just for good measure.
Give them a break folks at least they are trying.
Is a front end tool for databases a-la Microsoft access. Every small (and large) business needs a database app and there is HUGE cottage industry of independant consultants who do nothing but churn out one access app after another. Think of the power of running headless X stations to access a robust server with a postgresql or oracle back end. Letf face it as good as php/mod_perl are HTML can not provide the same degree of friendliness or help to a data entry person.
I am waiting anxiously for Corel to post Paradox to linux I think it will be huge leap forward if the Linux version is anywhere close to what the windows version was (minus the crashing of course).
It's true that we a need to keep state in writing out web apps but maybe we should retink this whole web app thing in the first place. Trying to write a serious commerce app over a stateless anonymous protocol is a recipe for disaster. What we need is another protocol for delivering code over the net and leave http for delivering content. Something like RMI but language independent if possible.
BTW I know CORBA is language independent but honestly it's bit complicated for the average developer. HTML was great because it was so simple to learn and effective at what it wanted to accomplish.
Not only that but they tried their damnest to get as many hackers in on the deal as possible. What this means is that a sizable percent of RH stockholders are hackers! This is very assuring for me.
They bought the stupid RSA license and now you can use a secure apache for a hundred bucks (plus the key of course). This is a very significant although much overlooked developement. Now we don't have to pay stronghold a thousand dollars.
I would say that most unions are probably OK but even if you are right then what? Are you suggesting that each individual fight a corporation by himself? Yea me against Times/Warner I got a chance huh? A corporation (especially if it owns media) is all powerful. You need the might of thousands if not millions to fight it and even then you will be likely to get killed or thrown in jail.
"now in this case nothing illegal has occurred... he was not charged with anything, the FBI _asked_ the ISP to take down the site, the ISP prob had a clause in the contract that allowed them to do so at anytime, provided they handed back that month's money or whatever... and that is what happened."
The problem is that FBI can coerce someone to shut down a web site just by asking. They know nobody wants to be dragged to court so they make a couple of vauge threats in the process of asking and voila no pesky court orders or that stupid constitution getting in the way.
One can only hear the conversation now...
If you don't shut down that site we will comb through your web servers till we find some child pornography you don't want that do happen do you? We will give your name to the IRS for an audit. You don't want that to happen do you? Look what happened to the people who got in Ken Starr's way, they are all in debt up to their necks. you don't want that to happen do you? So won't you please take that web site down. Good boy now go sit.
Rasmus.
You rock man. PHP is awsome and you (and your cohorts) deserve everything you get.
Good luck to ya.
You can write some serious spaghetti code in VB.
VB almost forces you to use a lot of global variables.
OOP in vb is absolutely horrible
The only way to write maintanable code in VB is to use some other language to write activeX controls and use VB to script them. Everytime I write in VB I feel like sticking toothpicks into my eyeballs.
The law already makes judgments like that. Killing a cop or a federal officer will get you a harsher sentence. The law sees this as a more serious matter then killing you or your wife. The law is not blind and does make judgements on who was killed, how they were killed, and what the motivation and intent of the killer were. Hate crimes is nothing special just a modification of scope.
Motivation and intent are a HUGE part of our criminal system. What's the difference between manslaughter and murder? Look into it before you spout off.
It won't matter in serious cases like this. Where it will matter is when someone paints a shwastika on somebodies house. The current law will treat this as a simple act of vandalism whereas a hate crimes legislation will elevate the crime to something more serious. When someone burns a cross on your lawn they do a lot more damage then a few burnt blades of grass.
Do you know of a document that compares Postgresql to MS SQL 7.0? I am looking for a features comparison as well as a speed comparison. I have read a bit of the manual for Postgresql and combed through their site a bit but I can't seem to find such a document.
IANAL but from what what I understand it's just about impossible to appeal findings of fact. So far MS has not been found guilty of breaking any law. The judgement if it goes against MS can be appealed though.
It is hard to install. The latest version asks you which IDE interface, which device your CD rom is plugged into. How many people know that off the top of their heads. It also does almost no hardware detection. Definately not for newbies. Having installed all of the popular Linux and a few *BSD distributions many times I'd say that debian is the hardest for the average user (if not impossible).
Having said all that I think it's also the most logical install procedure (install just enough to dselect the rest). Dselect of course rocks and the whole debian project is very well conceived and executed. I am looking forward to the corel distro.
If you want to know how valid treaties are just ask the indians. Most treaties are worthless pieces of junk. Who is going to enforce them the UN? That's a laugh isn't it. The fact is in international politics might makes right. As long as we got the arms, nukes, and the willingness to use them the rest of the world has to do what we say. Now that Russia is just a discarded shell of an empire they can not stop us from doing anything we want to.
Lets say that in your area the going rate for consultants is $75.00. Use this as a baseline. Next ask yourself "how much do I want to do this". If you are not very excited about the project bid higher (say $100.00) if you get the job at least you'll have incentive to finish it. If you really want the job bid less (say $60.00). Don't bid too low they will dimiss you. Same goes for "how much do I like these people".
Oh yea if anybody complains about the price leave immediately. If you lowball them you are going to have a very hard time finishing this project and your reputaion is going to suffer. Most likely they will try to get out of paying you too.
One of my Network Engineer friends told me this story.
A large insurance company with offices in Chicago had outsourced their IT dept. One day the said Engineer got a call from the dallas branch wondering why it was taking so long for the workstations to boot (2 hours!). He was able to trace the problem down to the fact that for some insane (and unknown to him) reason the dallas PCs were authenticating against the Chicago servers.
This is a silly argument. If it were true it would apply to everything which is subject to competition. The price would drop, profits would wither etc. Having low cost (or free) alternatives keeps the businesses honest and competitive. It prevents them from gauging the consumers and that a Good Thing.
FreeBSD is most definately not for beginners. If you are a win98 user go get yourself a copy of caldera 2.3. Pop the CD into your drive and less then a half hour later you will have a nice, slick linux system that you can play around with. Keep your win98 partition for running your current apps and try the apps in Linux. After using both of them for a while you may prefer linux. If you don't prefer it just wipe it out and all you are out is $30.00. I would recommend against getting a cheap bytes version unless you also buy some application CDs too. The commercial Caldera box comes with both Star office and Applixware and you can try them out to see if you like them.Most people use a computer mainly for word processing, spreadsheets, email and web browsing. You will find Linux very good at these functions.
If you have a fairly fast internet connection you can also download some images and do an over the internet install of RH6.1. Then go visit Anywhere office from applix and you can use their java based office suite for free. I think you will find it more then adequate for most of your needs.
Whereever you are there is probably a Linux users group, go to one of the meetings and you will find lots of friendly knowledgable people who are just dying to help you out. Good luck and welcome to the adventure.