Why is this a big deal? I read the 2 emails from Odeon and the one sent to them, and I don't see why Odeon is being outragous in asking them to take down the site.
Well, for one thing, Vetere comes across as a bit of a wanker in those emails to say the least. He could have acknowledged Somerville's intentions, and that the company originally supported his efforts for a start.
Sure, their site should work in other browsers, but that is not the issue.
Of course it is. He wouldn't need to have put up an alternate site if it did. If Odeon wanted the site down, they should have fixed their own pile of crap first, before thanking the guy for his efforts and asking him politely to take it down.
The issue is that some guy is tricking people into submitting info to his site instead of the Odeon site
Well, he made it clear that his site/wasn't/ the official one, so he was hardly "tricking" anyone. And they couldn't submit their info to the official site because it was broken anyway!
Mr. Vetere's email address is LVetere@odeonuk.com - perhaps a short (polite) email might be in order, complaining about his aggressive attitude towards Sommerville and his company's crappy website.
in our labour code, you cannot force and employee to work more than 4 hours per week unless it is an unforseen emergency. I don't think an approaching, or past deadline would qualify
Is that meant to be 40 hours per week? Or 4 hours overtime? If not, where are you working?:)
In my experience, if you have a decent machine, the limiting factor in rendering pages is almost always your connection speed. IE however is rather sluggish all round and slow to respond - particularly when scrolling.
* Altruism. I like to make knowledge available to everyone.
* Sharing knowledge is pleausurable. I think that humans might be hard-wired to be this way - it's a big evolutionary advantage to your community.
* Following on from that, sharers of knowledge are celebrated in the community.
* Wikipedia's interface is very elegant. Connecting something into the web of knowledge is fun in itself, in the same way that writing a nice piece of code or completing a piece of art is. The new category system is quite cool.
* A chance to influence the world's culture. Wikipedia is probably going to be the world's leading enyclopedia soon (if it is not already), so you have a chance to define reality in your own way. Of course, you try to do this within WP's guidelines, and subject to others' opinions, but you have considerable flexibility. You can build it up as you see fit.
"Will be" returning? Shouldn't all this have been finished some time ago? I thought Valve claimed they were c. 2 weeks away from shipping the game last autumn.
If you only use letters and numerals (I believe Hotmail is case-insensitive) then you only have to get up to 7 characters (7^36 + 6^36 +...) before you have more than 80 billion usernames. That's not at all feasible.
For day-to-day things, it really is much easier to use pounds, feet, pints and so forth. A foot is a really sensible length for a ruler - there aren't nearly as many practical uses for a metre rule. And if I'm not going into a pub ordering my beer in millilitres. I can feel a sense of achievement if I eat a pound of meat, but a kilogram would probably make me sick.
Complete bollocks.
First, you're cheating. You're comparing millilitres and (presumably) pints, rather than litres; 1/2 a litre is close to a pint and works fine in pubs in most of Europe. 1/2 a pound is close to 1kg (and if you're eating meat in pounds, you're a fat bastard). Most imperial units are close to metric; yards/metres for example, and others differ only by a factor of 2.
Second, "I don't really see any need to force people into adopting an unfamiliar system". I'm guessing you're British from your mention of pubs and the inflammatory Murdoch-language reference to Brussels. So: it's hardly unfamiliar since kids all get taught metric in school, and therefore forcing them learn two systems is inefficient and just confuses everyone.
No it bloody doesn't. This is bad in itself. My DNA is a blueprint of exactly who I am (minus cultural influence and random factors) and is solely mine. It is not the government's right to take copies of just because some coppers might be incompetent enough to arrest me. FFS, you need a warrant just to tap someone's phone[1], and this is much more invasive. If I was a Californian I'd tell them to fuck off, at least until all the politicians involved in the initiative had agreed to each release DNA samples to the public.
[1] unless this has been overridden by "anti-terror (C)" legislation recently.
I think you understate his importance. He was far more than a code breaker.
It is possible that he is the most important computer scientist of all time. He is of course against some strong competition, but in my opinion the only one in his league is Von Neumann. There is hardly a concept in computer science that was not at least considered in basic form by Turing.
As for the war, the phrase "some decent contributions" doesn't do him justice. An argument can be made that he was the most important individual in WW2. That may be overstating it, but I would consider him to be one of the key persons. I think it is entirely possible that if you removed Turing from history, the Nazis could have ended up winning the war in Europe.
I disagree. The extra TLDs make it harder to remember addresses because you have to remember the TLD as well as the name. It just allows for more confusion and bickering. If I was ruler of the world (or designing the net from scratch) I'd have them removed entirely. Wouldn't it be more elegant if you could just use, say, slashdot to refer to a domain?
If people wanted easy to remember names, they would just have to exercise some ingenuity (hey, you could always register your domain as slashdotdotorg).
The quickest way of working out what it means might be to ask Google if you can use their database to search for any contiguous series of words beginning with D.O.U.O.S.V.A.V.V.M.
If Google wouldn't do this, the first thing I'd do is try the same thing with a dictionary of quotations.
Despite what many people have said in the past it, has nothing to do with what you are aware of
Well, that is the impression I have received when reading about it, but I have assumed I was wrong since I have not heard anyone comment on it.
If you detected a photon, then you did something physical to collapse the wave function
So, let's see if I understand it... any process that occurs that could in theory be used to measure whether a photon had passed through the slit collapses the waveform?
The above seems to be how I read the replies I have been given. However, isn't it the case that the photon's chosen path(s) will cause it to interact with other particles that could in theory be used to detect which slot it has travelled through? Does the photon 'know' in advance whether these are being used used to detect it or not? Essentially, I think my question was: where is the line drawn between interaction with the environment and 'measurement'?
No doubt I am missing several important fundamental concepts of physics, so apologies in advance:)
I believe that you have a very poor understanding of what measurement is
If you're a physicist, perhaps you can answer a question that has been puzzling me for some time when reading about the slit experiment: what exactly is 'a measurement'? Is there a scientific definition? For example, if something detects the photon, but then discards the information does it still count as a measurement (and affect the intereference pattern)?
Windows 95 was never spatial. It was mimicked, poorly. Since Mr. Petreley can't seem to define what spatial is in the first place, and which OS implemented it in which way if at all, we're left with ye olde "Doesn't work like Explorer, it sucks." excuse. There's more to spatial than one folder per window. I'd explain it, but there are plenty of resources available that define this, unfortunately Nicholas failed to comprehend even one of them.
Anyone feel like explaining (or pointing out a link explaining) what this spatial concept is? I've heard it mentioned before, but never explained.
You probably got confused over 0-indexing. I can only guess that you're a novice programmer because the Java API is excellent, possibly the best of any language (though other valid criticisms can be made about the language).
For instance, A volcanic erruption can cause so much more so called "greenhouse" gasses to be released into the atmosphere than all the polutants man has expelled since the first machine of industry.
That is, quite simply, crap. You're wrong and embarassingly so.
"There is no doubt that volcanic eruptions add CO2 to the atmosphere, but compared to the quantity produced by human activities, their impact is virtually trivial: volcanic eruptions produce about 110 million tons of CO2 each year, whereas human activities contribute almost 10,000 times that quantity." - Scientific American
Moderators, please don't mod up silly statements like these where sources aren't cited.
To say that China needs to boost their efficiency rather than the US is ridiculous looking at those figures.
It's not enough to give a shit about the environment; we have to make sure they give a shit too, or at least give a shit about what the industrialized world will do if they don't act like it.
The rest of the world does give a shit about it. Most of the rest of the countries that matter have ratified Kyoto, which, whilst not perfect, will at least go some way towards controlling emissions. It is the US that is doing absolutely nothing.
The person who originally said the utilities were 'free' and 'open' now decides that you must pay for your usage by changing the name of you software.
No, it is a polite request. There is no "must". You don't have to agree to it! But if you decide not to, please don't whine and moan like a little girl about it. You have to grow up sometime!
And don't try to tell me what I should call it (Linux usually, but after listening to you whine about it I'm seriously considering GNU/Linux).
Ah, so you're a Windows user. Why the hell do you care what the rest of us call our OS then? What has it got to do with you?
Anyway, I'm bored so I'll have a look at your site.
Hello...
While I am frustrated by the speed and limitations of Visual Basic, I have found it to be a competant language. The bulk of my programs are therefore written in VB 6.
Bwahahahaha! It's a good thing we have you around to make the fine distinction for us between an app and the OS. And that's compet*e*nt by the way.
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So me saying that your site is a pile of crap is not allowed?
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Why is this a big deal? I read the 2 emails from Odeon and the one sent to them, and I don't see why Odeon is being outragous in asking them to take down the site.
/wasn't/ the official one, so he was hardly "tricking" anyone. And they couldn't submit their info to the official site because it was broken anyway!
Well, for one thing, Vetere comes across as a bit of a wanker in those emails to say the least. He could have acknowledged Somerville's intentions, and that the company originally supported his efforts for a start.
Sure, their site should work in other browsers, but that is not the issue.
Of course it is. He wouldn't need to have put up an alternate site if it did. If Odeon wanted the site down, they should have fixed their own pile of crap first, before thanking the guy for his efforts and asking him politely to take it down.
The issue is that some guy is tricking people into submitting info to his site instead of the Odeon site
Well, he made it clear that his site
Mr. Vetere's email address is LVetere@odeonuk.com - perhaps a short (polite) email might be in order, complaining about his aggressive attitude towards Sommerville and his company's crappy website.
in our labour code, you cannot force and employee to work more than 4 hours per week unless it is an unforseen emergency. I don't think an approaching, or past deadline would qualify
:)
Is that meant to be 40 hours per week? Or 4 hours overtime? If not, where are you working?
In my experience, if you have a decent machine, the limiting factor in rendering pages is almost always your connection speed. IE however is rather sluggish all round and slow to respond - particularly when scrolling.
Speaking as a Wikipedia contributor:
* Altruism. I like to make knowledge available to everyone.
* Sharing knowledge is pleausurable. I think that humans might be hard-wired to be this way - it's a big evolutionary advantage to your community.
* Following on from that, sharers of knowledge are celebrated in the community.
* Wikipedia's interface is very elegant. Connecting something into the web of knowledge is fun in itself, in the same way that writing a nice piece of code or completing a piece of art is. The new category system is quite cool.
* A chance to influence the world's culture. Wikipedia is probably going to be the world's leading enyclopedia soon (if it is not already), so you have a chance to define reality in your own way. Of course, you try to do this within WP's guidelines, and subject to others' opinions, but you have considerable flexibility. You can build it up as you see fit.
"Will be" returning? Shouldn't all this have been finished some time ago? I thought Valve claimed they were c. 2 weeks away from shipping the game last autumn.
If you only use letters and numerals (I believe Hotmail is case-insensitive) then you only have to get up to 7 characters (7^36 + 6^36 + ...) before you have more than 80 billion usernames. That's not at all feasible.
So I got it backwards. I think that only supports my point about having two systems being confusing. Just ask NASA.
For day-to-day things, it really is much easier to use pounds, feet, pints and so forth. A foot is a really sensible length for a ruler - there aren't nearly as many practical uses for a metre rule. And if I'm not going into a pub ordering my beer in millilitres. I can feel a sense of achievement if I eat a pound of meat, but a kilogram would probably make me sick.
Complete bollocks.
First, you're cheating. You're comparing millilitres and (presumably) pints, rather than litres; 1/2 a litre is close to a pint and works fine in pubs in most of Europe. 1/2 a pound is close to 1kg (and if you're eating meat in pounds, you're a fat bastard). Most imperial units are close to metric; yards/metres for example, and others differ only by a factor of 2.
Second, "I don't really see any need to force people into adopting an unfamiliar system". I'm guessing you're British from your mention of pubs and the inflammatory Murdoch-language reference to Brussels. So: it's hardly unfamiliar since kids all get taught metric in school, and therefore forcing them learn two systems is inefficient and just confuses everyone.
This sounds eminently reasonable.
No it bloody doesn't. This is bad in itself. My DNA is a blueprint of exactly who I am (minus cultural influence and random factors) and is solely mine. It is not the government's right to take copies of just because some coppers might be incompetent enough to arrest me. FFS, you need a warrant just to tap someone's phone[1], and this is much more invasive. If I was a Californian I'd tell them to fuck off, at least until all the politicians involved in the initiative had agreed to each release DNA samples to the public.
[1] unless this has been overridden by "anti-terror (C)" legislation recently.
Hey, is line wrapping in your browser broken or are you trying to write in free verse? :/
I think you understate his importance. He was far more than a code breaker.
It is possible that he is the most important computer scientist of all time. He is of course against some strong competition, but in my opinion the only one in his league is Von Neumann. There is hardly a concept in computer science that was not at least considered in basic form by Turing.
As for the war, the phrase "some decent contributions" doesn't do him justice. An argument can be made that he was the most important individual in WW2. That may be overstating it, but I would consider him to be one of the key persons. I think it is entirely possible that if you removed Turing from history, the Nazis could have ended up winning the war in Europe.
I think there's some sort of rule in English that if you correct someone's grammar you have to make a mistake yourself.
You're wrong.
"An" is used before a word starting with a vowel if it is pronounced as if starting with a consonant.
Look it up.
I disagree. The extra TLDs make it harder to remember addresses because you have to remember the TLD as well as the name. It just allows for more confusion and bickering. If I was ruler of the world (or designing the net from scratch) I'd have them removed entirely. Wouldn't it be more elegant if you could just use, say, slashdot to refer to a domain?
If people wanted easy to remember names, they would just have to exercise some ingenuity (hey, you could always register your domain as slashdotdotorg).
The quickest way of working out what it means might be to ask Google if you can use their database to search for any contiguous series of words beginning with D.O.U.O.S.V.A.V.V.M.
If Google wouldn't do this, the first thing I'd do is try the same thing with a dictionary of quotations.
Despite what many people have said in the past it, has nothing to do with what you are aware of
:)
Well, that is the impression I have received when reading about it, but I have assumed I was wrong since I have not heard anyone comment on it.
If you detected a photon, then you did something physical to collapse the wave function
So, let's see if I understand it... any process that occurs that could in theory be used to measure whether a photon had passed through the slit collapses the waveform?
The above seems to be how I read the replies I have been given. However, isn't it the case that the photon's chosen path(s) will cause it to interact with other particles that could in theory be used to detect which slot it has travelled through? Does the photon 'know' in advance whether these are being used used to detect it or not? Essentially, I think my question was: where is the line drawn between interaction with the environment and 'measurement'?
No doubt I am missing several important fundamental concepts of physics, so apologies in advance
I believe that you have a very poor understanding of what measurement is
If you're a physicist, perhaps you can answer a question that has been puzzling me for some time when reading about the slit experiment: what exactly is 'a measurement'? Is there a scientific definition? For example, if something detects the photon, but then discards the information does it still count as a measurement (and affect the intereference pattern)?
From that rebuttal:
Windows 95 was never spatial. It was mimicked, poorly. Since Mr. Petreley can't seem to define what spatial is in the first place, and which OS implemented it in which way if at all, we're left with ye olde "Doesn't work like Explorer, it sucks." excuse. There's more to spatial than one folder per window. I'd explain it, but there are plenty of resources available that define this, unfortunately Nicholas failed to comprehend even one of them.
Anyone feel like explaining (or pointing out a link explaining) what this spatial concept is? I've heard it mentioned before, but never explained.
The Desert Eagle doesn't have enough stopping power... at least not unless you're a sharpshooter and happen to know where to shoot.
The balls?
You're wrong. Quick test:Output: fooba
i.e. string length of 5
You probably got confused over 0-indexing. I can only guess that you're a novice programmer because the Java API is excellent, possibly the best of any language (though other valid criticisms can be made about the language).
For instance, A volcanic erruption can cause so much more so called "greenhouse" gasses to be released into the atmosphere than all the polutants man has expelled since the first machine of industry.
That is, quite simply, crap. You're wrong and embarassingly so.
"There is no doubt that volcanic eruptions add CO2 to the atmosphere, but compared to the quantity produced by human activities, their impact is virtually trivial: volcanic eruptions produce about 110 million tons of CO2 each year, whereas human activities contribute almost 10,000 times that quantity." - Scientific American
Moderators, please don't mod up silly statements like these where sources aren't cited.
China is already using more coal every year than the USA
Handwaving. You have to look at total emissions:
CO2 emissions per year (tons)
China
2,893,000,000 (2.3 / capita)
USA
5,410,000,000 (20.1 / capita)
source: wikipedia
To say that China needs to boost their efficiency rather than the US is ridiculous looking at those figures.
It's not enough to give a shit about the environment; we have to make sure they give a shit too, or at least give a shit about what the industrialized world will do if they don't act like it.
The rest of the world does give a shit about it. Most of the rest of the countries that matter have ratified Kyoto, which, whilst not perfect, will at least go some way towards controlling emissions. It is the US that is doing absolutely nothing.
The person who originally said the utilities were 'free' and 'open' now decides that you must pay for your usage by changing the name of you software.
No, it is a polite request. There is no "must". You don't have to agree to it! But if you decide not to, please don't whine and moan like a little girl about it. You have to grow up sometime!
And don't try to tell me what I should call it (Linux usually, but after listening to you whine about it I'm seriously considering GNU/Linux).
Ah, so you're a Windows user. Why the hell do you care what the rest of us call our OS then? What has it got to do with you?
.html, .shtml) within this site, on any medium provided that the URL is listed in a non-derogatory manner.
Anyway, I'm bored so I'll have a look at your site.
Hello...
While I am frustrated by the speed and limitations of Visual Basic, I have found it to be a competant language. The bulk of my programs are therefore written in VB 6.
Bwahahahaha! It's a good thing we have you around to make the fine distinction for us between an app and the OS. And that's compet*e*nt by the way.
You may place the URL of this site, and any HTML page (.htm,
So me saying that your site is a pile of crap is not allowed?
Images, CGIs and files other than HTML on this site may not be referenced directly on your site without permission of Adam Davis.
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