This is how organized religion dies -- to thunderous applause.
As they fade into irrelevance day after day, and people discover that they actually value the freedoms their churches have been suppressing, I expect people will abandon them at an even faster pace.
I don't like LBGT (and "t" - i like/. sigs!) - by the way, i am a Greek (Orthodox - which is almost like Catholics) Christian (note: my religion teaches, and my church believes, that LBGTt behavior is very bad, but we should love LBGTt persons). And i don't like the kind of discussion where people will accuse the Catholic church as the reason some civil matters are problematic because it teaches THE TRUTH (that is what i believe!) about LBGTt behavior, EVEN TO LBGTt persons - now that this civil matter is resolved, people still attack the Catholic church: "loss of moral authority of the Catholic church after a series of sex scandals was a strong contributing factor" (from/. summary) - Really? Do you know that the vast majority of those "sex scandals" was caused by homosexuals (and actually not priests but teachers in church funded schools)?
I believe in civil unions between LBGTt people, and i always thought it was the right thing. But i also believe that LBGTt people should repent for their behavior - church can help them. Why you think "organized religion dies" when people like me support the civil rights of LBGTt people? Or you think that the church should stop teaching (or "modify") the truth, to make it compatible with what people believe about civil issues? In a democracy, the citizens who decide about such civil matters may still believe the truth of the church but know the difference between "earth and sky". Most people i know are influenced by religion (that is the case in Greece) like me, but, again like me, support the rights of LBGTt people - what they don't support is having some "fagget pride" inside my church! Because there are people who believe that LBGTt people must be married inside a church, with an Orthodox/Catholic priest giving them blessings, and us, people of religion, giving a "thunderous applause".
The best thing to do is let church be a church, and have civil issues outside it - like what happened in this case. YOU (and everyone else) should not try to connect this with religion because I AM religious: if my religion is threatened i would prefer to stop supporting LBGTt people - my religion is more important for humans (even LBGTt people) than some civil rights (that most LBGTt people will never even practice actually - less than 10% of LBGTt people plans to "marry").
As a person of religion that has civil rights to decide about such issues i want to advise LBGTt people to stop being so irresponsible when demand their rights: civil unions is your civil right, I support it - having sex with Jesus is not! Please stop suppressing my right to religion.... everyone will benefit from that.
You accuse me of a liar, and what you produce to base your accusations is a story from the Los Angeles Times?
Anyway: from the official civil servants census page of the Greek goverment (official title: CENSUS, registry of human resources of the Greek state) - note: every civil servant in Greece must be registered in this to be able to get paid, plus this is checked by European partners: http://apografi.yap.gov.gr/apo... (this is in English) - Ordinary Staff 573.958 - Not Ordinary Staff - By type of contract SUM 65.355 plus 12.045 Special Cases
So, now are about 652000, in 2012 was 735000, AND THE DATA I POSTED FROM OECD ARE FOR 2011 (that was the latest) - i could accept that you are just misinformed IF you had not writen in your previous comment this:"I think Greece better fits as a province of Turkey."
You expressed much better than me what i wanted to be the point of my comment: "immediate access to a programming environment + a real manual that explained everything about the machine. That made it really easy to start programming. Unfortunately it's something you don't see much anymore." - yes, that excellent Locomotive BASIC was my first intro to coding, and it was just fine.
I think Greece better fits as a province of Turkey.
I start from your last sentence because i don't think people should waste time reading my reply to a person like you.
Greece does not belong into EU either - what other EU country does have 10% of its population as civil servants? Even Bulgaria is better than that.
Based on OECD, Employment in general government as a percentage of the labour force: Greece 7%, Germany 11%, USA 15%, UK 18%, France 22% (note: i put USA in for our non-European friend in Slashdot to compare) source
And why not? Greece does not belong into the Euro-zone because they have falsified their papers. Corruption, cheating, nepotism and tax evasion is Greek national past time after all.
I don't deny any of this accusations, and i can accept that we Greeks are the worste people on the world, BUT: don't believe everything you read.
I am glad that you agree, more because you have personal experience of what we (you and i) know: how good is to leave the old life/friends/etc/ behind and start over if you have problems like those we discuss - sometimes people without such personal experiences can't understand (i don't blame them of course) how easy is to return to your "old bad yourself" if you are in your "old bad enviroment".
None can "kick out Greece" (one of the oldest partner)... neither from the European Union (E.U.), nor EUROzone (which is where the current problems exist - and since Greece currently has a surplus on the state's badget...) - i am not writing this with a "nationalistic mood" (i am Greek), but our other partners in the EUROzone try to avoid the scenario that has Greece leaving EUROzone (but staying in the E.U. since they are different kind of unions) and returning to our national currency (i don't want that to happen -like the 80% of Greeks who don't want it neither, based on a week's old poll-, but it is something that may help solve our current issues).
Nooo... a headline that exaggerates?
Anyway, the Bank of Greece has Grexit AND/OR Brexit plans, and it's a TOP but surely not SECRET job of any nation's central bank to do it for its nation and/or any other nation (especialy if they share a union)...
There are a lot of things that can be done to reform prisoners and help them avoid recidivism. For that to happen however you have to actually want to help them rebuild their lives. American "justice" is more about getting revenge and punishing criminals Puritan style. No one really cares what happens afterwards.
While it is good that you personaly care about "what happens afterwards" (helping ex-criminals rebuild their lives is a good thing some good people may choose to do - IF the ex-criminal must want that also...), this is not the responsibility of "justice", since its responsibility are: a) reform the criminal (if this is possible) so he may return to society as a reformed non-criminal free man b) protect society from the criminal while he is still a danger because of his criminal ways c) punishing the criminal as a way of society taking revenge on behalf of the victim (a more civilized way -so not to become exaggerated- to satisfy the -note the double quotes- "civil/human" right of the victim for revenge - also note: as a fellow Slashdoter pointed to me few weeks ago, some victims -e.g., Christians- may not want revenge... but for those that want it is still their "civil/human" right)
From my experience, and related to recidivism, what this sociologist noticed is correct - a similar case is drug users (or even alcoholics): for heroin users in closed drug abuse treatment communities (i don't know how you call them in English), the first thing they teach is to forget any "old friends".
When (some decades ago) i was serving as a conscript in the Greek SP my unit was tasked to use as a "long period test" what was destined to be the regular army's new personal radio communication equipment - with that as my personal experience i can claim that yes, Nokia are indestructible: i have my heavily (ab)used 6303 for 6-7 years now, this thing works and looks like it was new - if i was ever going to war, that's a phone i would take with me... plus, it can be useful if you ran out of bullets... or if you ever need a hamer!
I had an Amstrad CPC 6128, i could turn it on, type some BASIC code (from computer magazines) for some (basic!) games, then modifying it, then creating some original stuff... then end up doing JAVA/SQL, but that's not the point!
"Organ[o]" is a Greek word meaning "Instrument" and, in Greek, a "musical organ" can be any "musical instrument"
Which might be relevant if we were speaking Greek rather than English.
But you speak Greek: you call it "organ", so, speak it like a Greek, not like some "barbarian"! You know: "Greek m*th*rf*ck*r, do you speak it?"
More relevant is that "organ" is used to refer to a lot of keyboard instruments that are intended to imitate (to some extent) the sound of a pipe organ. Whether or not this particular instrument falls into that category or not is probably largely a matter of opinion.
Since "organ" is used to refer to a lot of things other than just musical instruments, even in English...
Since many other Slashdoters have made it clear enough that "Java" is not just "Java applets" (and surely not "Javascript"!), i would like to give some love (trying to balance all the hate...) to "Java applets" - excluding the security problems (for which Java is not the only responsible - browsers, to a lesser degree, must be blamed also), i don't think that exist any other real (i like HTML5, but...) Rich Internet Application (R.I.A.) that is better than (or, nowadays, even alternative to...) "Java applets"!
someone who cannot freely be called sub-human... because of his race
You can call him sub-human (if that means anything) as much as you want, what you can't do is then extrapolate it to say that all people with black skin are sub-human.
I can not even freely call him a "NIGGER", you think i can freely call him a "sub-human" - this "freely" is important: it is not so much about my "Slashdot karma" for example (every fellow Slashdoter has the right to mod me down because he does not like they way i think and/or express myself, as every one -not just in Slashdot- has the right -even if he will be wrong- to answer to me "go fuck youself, you racist"), but it is about laws (like those we have in Europe) that make it illegal to call this nigger a sub-human.
About "extrapolating"... i posted the following "racist facts":
Why you think i did it? I even wrote: "as a contribution to the discussion and to the American society (in which both Abi and Katerina will live - understand this before anyone accuse me for posting "racist facts")"
No my friend, i don't have any problem "extrapolating" - to what extent i will extrapolate is debatable and based on other conditions also, but i am a Greek... from the "racist facts" i posted i can easily become wiser!
Yes, it does, but good can become better (Japanese level "better") (a "must have" for anyone like us, "bidet" aficionados!) - note for any Slashdot moderator: if you mod us down you prove how "i just wipe my butt" disgusting you are...
Organs are defined by their way of operation which works by blowing air into pipes of different length to make a sound. What they built could be best described as an electro-mechanical keyboard (if it even has keys)
"Organ[o]" is a Greek word meaning "Instrument" and, in Greek, a "musical organ" can be any "musical instrument" - the first "musical instrument" that was what is now defined by you "barbarians" (!) as "organ was made by Greeks ("Hydr-a-ylis" - "Hydraylic Pipe [Musical] Organ")
If it hadn't been for the recession, VW would now belong to Porsche.
Well, i wrote that "Porsche belongs to VW", which i think that technically is correct, but, since i think that from the beginning (pre WW2 times) those two companies were very closely connected, i am not sure that (a big part of) VW does not belongs to Porsche, so you may be right!
Are these crazy comments a product of naive machine learning algorithms?
Or code used for illicit communications?
Any ideas?
I have some ideas.
The Savopoulos -Savvas, his wife Amy, and their 10 years old son Phillip (luckily, their 2 daughters, Abi and Katerina, 19 and 16 years old, were not in the house)- is a Greek-American family that (along with their 57 years old El Salvadorian faithful maid Veralicia Figueroa) were, all together, tortured and murdered by someone who cannot freely be called sub-human... because of his race - so, as a contribution to the discussion and to the American society (in which both Abi and Katerina will live - understand this before anyone accuse me for posting "racist facts"):
* Both Abi and Katerina will honor their parents and their little brother (plus, their faithful maid) by living in the American society as their family teached them... o Theos na anapausi tis psixes ton Sabba, Amis, Phillipou, kai Veralicia - Abi kai Katerina, zoi se logou sas.
'Most requests are [...] unlawful [...]' And it gets worse. 'Many users on Hacker's List are trivially identifiable,' [...] The research dataset includes thousands of individuals soliciting federal crimes.
You get new engines for Selection Search via the Mycroft Project, those can be used with Firefox's OpenSearch and Sherlock plugins, and probably with other browsers, too.
The only way to fix this is criminal liability, with very stiff fines.
I agree... have those cyberattackers pay for the rest of their lives.
If they're going to continue to be incompetent at security, hit them where it hurts... right in the profits.
As long as corporations can say "oops" and just pretend that two years of credit tracking like this, nothing at all will change.
Until then, corporations will be as incompetent and lazy as the law allows... which is pretty much as incompetent and lazy as they want to be.
If you don't make the company pay actual fines, escalating to much bigger things for repeat offenses, corporations will simply do whatever their PR consultants tell them they can get away with... basically nothing.
Oh... wait... you mean punish the victim!? If criminal negligence exists, then o.k., but don't accuse the victim (and the "corporations" in this example are victims also) for the success of the criminals.
Thanks for proving my point. You are scared, ignorant, and seemingly very happy with that arrangement. Your ancient Greek forbears would be *oh so thrilled* that you've thrown your cognitive ability down the drain and settled for knee-jerk reaction instead.
Anyone who extrapolates their own experiences to judge the entire world is a demonstrable idiot.
I repeatedly informed you about my knowledge AND experience of Islam/Muslims - you repeatedly answered me that i am an ignorant, stupid, coward, racist, fanatic, etc (while you did not anwered about YOUR knowledge AND experience of Islam/Muslims)
One of the many great things my great ancient Greek ancestors gave to the world is the reasoning proving that "anyone who extrapolates their own experiences to judge the entire world" is... WISE! They were scared of "barbarians" because of their knowledge AND experience of them, and with that reasoning they civilized much of the "barbarian" world.
You attack people (not just me - i read your replies to others in this thread) by accusing them for ignorance, stupidity, cowardness, racism, fanatism, etc, just because they express their objections to Islam/Muslims - i will give you an advise: READ SOME GREEK HISTORY... you may understand the irony of your accusations.
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This is how organized religion dies -- to thunderous applause.
As they fade into irrelevance day after day, and people discover that they actually value the freedoms their churches have been suppressing, I expect people will abandon them at an even faster pace.
I don't like LBGT (and "t" - i like /. sigs!) - by the way, i am a Greek (Orthodox - which is almost like Catholics) Christian (note: my religion teaches, and my church believes, that LBGTt behavior is very bad, but we should love LBGTt persons). And i don't like the kind of discussion where people will accuse the Catholic church as the reason some civil matters are problematic because it teaches THE TRUTH (that is what i believe!) about LBGTt behavior, EVEN TO LBGTt persons - now that this civil matter is resolved, people still attack the Catholic church: "loss of moral authority of the Catholic church after a series of sex scandals was a strong contributing factor" (from /. summary) - Really? Do you know that the vast majority of those "sex scandals" was caused by homosexuals (and actually not priests but teachers in church funded schools)?
I believe in civil unions between LBGTt people, and i always thought it was the right thing. But i also believe that LBGTt people should repent for their behavior - church can help them. Why you think "organized religion dies" when people like me support the civil rights of LBGTt people? Or you think that the church should stop teaching (or "modify") the truth, to make it compatible with what people believe about civil issues? In a democracy, the citizens who decide about such civil matters may still believe the truth of the church but know the difference between "earth and sky". Most people i know are influenced by religion (that is the case in Greece) like me, but, again like me, support the rights of LBGTt people - what they don't support is having some "fagget pride" inside my church! Because there are people who believe that LBGTt people must be married inside a church, with an Orthodox/Catholic priest giving them blessings, and us, people of religion, giving a "thunderous applause".
The best thing to do is let church be a church, and have civil issues outside it - like what happened in this case. YOU (and everyone else) should not try to connect this with religion because I AM religious: if my religion is threatened i would prefer to stop supporting LBGTt people - my religion is more important for humans (even LBGTt people) than some civil rights (that most LBGTt people will never even practice actually - less than 10% of LBGTt people plans to "marry").
As a person of religion that has civil rights to decide about such issues i want to advise LBGTt people to stop being so irresponsible when demand their rights: civil unions is your civil right, I support it - having sex with Jesus is not! Please stop suppressing my right to religion.... everyone will benefit from that.
Anyway: from the official civil servants census page of the Greek goverment (official title: CENSUS, registry of human resources of the Greek state) - note: every civil servant in Greece must be registered in this to be able to get paid, plus this is checked by European partners: http://apografi.yap.gov.gr/apo... (this is in English) - Ordinary Staff 573.958 - Not Ordinary Staff - By type of contract SUM 65.355 plus 12.045 Special Cases
So, now are about 652000, in 2012 was 735000, AND THE DATA I POSTED FROM OECD ARE FOR 2011 (that was the latest) - i could accept that you are just misinformed IF you had not writen in your previous comment this:"I think Greece better fits as a province of Turkey."
You expressed much better than me what i wanted to be the point of my comment: "immediate access to a programming environment + a real manual that explained everything about the machine. That made it really easy to start programming. Unfortunately it's something you don't see much anymore." - yes, that excellent Locomotive BASIC was my first intro to coding, and it was just fine.
I think Greece better fits as a province of Turkey.
I start from your last sentence because i don't think people should waste time reading my reply to a person like you.
Greece does not belong into EU either - what other EU country does have 10% of its population as civil servants? Even Bulgaria is better than that.
Based on OECD, Employment in general government as a percentage of the labour force:
Greece 7%,
Germany 11%,
USA 15%,
UK 18%,
France 22%
(note: i put USA in for our non-European friend in Slashdot to compare)
source
And why not? Greece does not belong into the Euro-zone because they have falsified their papers. Corruption, cheating, nepotism and tax evasion is Greek national past time after all.
I don't deny any of this accusations, and i can accept that we Greeks are the worste people on the world, BUT: don't believe everything you read.
I am glad that you agree, more because you have personal experience of what we (you and i) know: how good is to leave the old life/friends/etc/ behind and start over if you have problems like those we discuss - sometimes people without such personal experiences can't understand (i don't blame them of course) how easy is to return to your "old bad yourself" if you are in your "old bad enviroment".
Start with kicking out Greece. It's a money pit.
None can "kick out Greece" (one of the oldest partner)... neither from the European Union (E.U.), nor EUROzone (which is where the current problems exist - and since Greece currently has a surplus on the state's badget...) - i am not writing this with a "nationalistic mood" (i am Greek), but our other partners in the EUROzone try to avoid the scenario that has Greece leaving EUROzone (but staying in the E.U. since they are different kind of unions) and returning to our national currency (i don't want that to happen -like the 80% of Greeks who don't want it neither, based on a week's old poll-, but it is something that may help solve our current issues).
Nooo... a headline that exaggerates? Anyway, the Bank of Greece has Grexit AND/OR Brexit plans, and it's a TOP but surely not SECRET job of any nation's central bank to do it for its nation and/or any other nation (especialy if they share a union)...
There are a lot of things that can be done to reform prisoners and help them avoid recidivism. For that to happen however you have to actually want to help them rebuild their lives. American "justice" is more about getting revenge and punishing criminals Puritan style. No one really cares what happens afterwards.
While it is good that you personaly care about "what happens afterwards" (helping ex-criminals rebuild their lives is a good thing some good people may choose to do - IF the ex-criminal must want that also...), this is not the responsibility of "justice", since its responsibility are:
a) reform the criminal (if this is possible) so he may return to society as a reformed non-criminal free man
b) protect society from the criminal while he is still a danger because of his criminal ways
c) punishing the criminal as a way of society taking revenge on behalf of the victim (a more civilized way -so not to become exaggerated- to satisfy the -note the double quotes- "civil/human" right of the victim for revenge - also note: as a fellow Slashdoter pointed to me few weeks ago, some victims -e.g., Christians- may not want revenge... but for those that want it is still their "civil/human" right)
From my experience, and related to recidivism, what this sociologist noticed is correct - a similar case is drug users (or even alcoholics): for heroin users in closed drug abuse treatment communities (i don't know how you call them in English), the first thing they teach is to forget any "old friends".
When (some decades ago) i was serving as a conscript in the Greek SP my unit was tasked to use as a "long period test" what was destined to be the regular army's new personal radio communication equipment - with that as my personal experience i can claim that yes, Nokia are indestructible: i have my heavily (ab)used 6303 for 6-7 years now, this thing works and looks like it was new - if i was ever going to war, that's a phone i would take with me... plus, it can be useful if you ran out of bullets... or if you ever need a hamer!
... then end up doing JAVA/SQL, but that's not the point!
Were the cookies any good?
I am a diabetic you insensitive clod...
I had an Amstrad CPC 6128, i could turn it on, type some BASIC code (from computer magazines) for some (basic!) games, then modifying it, then creating some original stuff... then end up doing JAVA/SQL, but that's not the point!
"Organ[o]" is a Greek word meaning "Instrument" and, in Greek, a "musical organ" can be any "musical instrument"
Which might be relevant if we were speaking Greek rather than English.
But you speak Greek: you call it "organ", so, speak it like a Greek, not like some "barbarian"! You know: "Greek m*th*rf*ck*r, do you speak it?"
More relevant is that "organ" is used to refer to a lot of keyboard instruments that are intended to imitate (to some extent) the sound of a pipe organ. Whether or not this particular instrument falls into that category or not is probably largely a matter of opinion.
Since "organ" is used to refer to a lot of things other than just musical instruments, even in English...
use some common sense.
there are 3 kinds of people:
* those who can use some common sense
* those who can't
So I shouldn't post my shatter recipe that uses propane?
NOOO.... o.k. dude, you were right, let's build some firefoxes, it's fun!
https://developer.mozilla.org/... Build Instructions
Dude... don't do that... some kids may try it and cause an explosion or something... you don't want that on your conscience!
Since many other Slashdoters have made it clear enough that "Java" is not just "Java applets" (and surely not "Javascript"!), i would like to give some love (trying to balance all the hate...) to "Java applets" - excluding the security problems (for which Java is not the only responsible - browsers, to a lesser degree, must be blamed also), i don't think that exist any other real (i like HTML5, but...) Rich Internet Application (R.I.A.) that is better than (or, nowadays, even alternative to...) "Java applets"!
someone who cannot freely be called sub-human... because of his race
You can call him sub-human (if that means anything) as much as you want, what you can't do is then extrapolate it to say that all people with black skin are sub-human.
I can not even freely call him a "NIGGER", you think i can freely call him a "sub-human" - this "freely" is important: it is not so much about my "Slashdot karma" for example (every fellow Slashdoter has the right to mod me down because he does not like they way i think and/or express myself, as every one -not just in Slashdot- has the right -even if he will be wrong- to answer to me "go fuck youself, you racist"), but it is about laws (like those we have in Europe) that make it illegal to call this nigger a sub-human.
About "extrapolating"... i posted the following "racist facts":
USA, 2013 - Arrests by Race - Black
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter: 52.2%
Robbery: 56.4%
Population by Race - Black : 13.2%.
sources: FBI - CENSUS
Why you think i did it? I even wrote: "as a contribution to the discussion and to the American society (in which both Abi and Katerina will live - understand this before anyone accuse me for posting "racist facts")"
No my friend, i don't have any problem "extrapolating" - to what extent i will extrapolate is debatable and based on other conditions also, but i am a Greek... from the "racist facts" i posted i can easily become wiser!
feels good, too.
Yes, it does, but good can become better (Japanese level "better") (a "must have" for anyone like us, "bidet" aficionados!) - note for any Slashdot moderator: if you mod us down you prove how "i just wipe my butt" disgusting you are...
Organs are defined by their way of operation which works by blowing air into pipes of different length to make a sound. What they built could be best described as an electro-mechanical keyboard (if it even has keys)
"Organ[o]" is a Greek word meaning "Instrument" and, in Greek, a "musical organ" can be any "musical instrument" - the first "musical instrument" that was what is now defined by you "barbarians" (!) as "organ was made by Greeks ("Hydr-a-ylis" - "Hydraylic Pipe [Musical] Organ")
Porsche belongs to VW
If it hadn't been for the recession, VW would now belong to Porsche.
Well, i wrote that "Porsche belongs to VW", which i think that technically is correct, but, since i think that from the beginning (pre WW2 times) those two companies were very closely connected, i am not sure that (a big part of) VW does not belongs to Porsche, so you may be right!
Are these crazy comments a product of naive machine learning algorithms?
Or code used for illicit communications?
Any ideas?
I have some ideas.
The Savopoulos -Savvas, his wife Amy, and their 10 years old son Phillip (luckily, their 2 daughters, Abi and Katerina, 19 and 16 years old, were not in the house)- is a Greek-American family that (along with their 57 years old El Salvadorian faithful maid Veralicia Figueroa) were, all together, tortured and murdered by someone who cannot freely be called sub-human... because of his race - so, as a contribution to the discussion and to the American society (in which both Abi and Katerina will live - understand this before anyone accuse me for posting "racist facts"):
USA, 2013 - Arrests by Race - Black
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter: 52.2%
Robbery: 56.4%
Population by Race - Black : 13.2%.
sources: FBI - CENSUS
* Both Abi and Katerina will honor their parents and their little brother (plus, their faithful maid) by living in the American society as their family teached them... o Theos na anapausi tis psixes ton Sabba, Amis, Phillipou, kai Veralicia - Abi kai Katerina, zoi se logou sas.
'Most requests are [...] unlawful [...]' And it gets worse. 'Many users on Hacker's List are trivially identifiable,' [...] The research dataset includes thousands of individuals soliciting federal crimes.
"worse"? You mean "better"!
You get new engines for Selection Search via the Mycroft Project, those can be used with Firefox's OpenSearch and Sherlock plugins, and probably with other browsers, too.
Yes, i use Firefox, and you are very helpful Sir!
The only way to fix this is criminal liability, with very stiff fines.
I agree... have those cyberattackers pay for the rest of their lives.
If they're going to continue to be incompetent at security, hit them where it hurts ... right in the profits.
As long as corporations can say "oops" and just pretend that two years of credit tracking like this, nothing at all will change.
Until then, corporations will be as incompetent and lazy as the law allows ... which is pretty much as incompetent and lazy as they want to be.
If you don't make the company pay actual fines, escalating to much bigger things for repeat offenses, corporations will simply do whatever their PR consultants tell them they can get away with ... basically nothing.
Oh... wait... you mean punish the victim!? If criminal negligence exists, then o.k., but don't accuse the victim (and the "corporations" in this example are victims also) for the success of the criminals.
Thanks for proving my point. You are scared, ignorant, and seemingly very happy with that arrangement. Your ancient Greek forbears would be *oh so thrilled* that you've thrown your cognitive ability down the drain and settled for knee-jerk reaction instead.
Anyone who extrapolates their own experiences to judge the entire world is a demonstrable idiot.
I repeatedly informed you about my knowledge AND experience of Islam/Muslims - you repeatedly answered me that i am an ignorant, stupid, coward, racist, fanatic, etc (while you did not anwered about YOUR knowledge AND experience of Islam/Muslims)
One of the many great things my great ancient Greek ancestors gave to the world is the reasoning proving that "anyone who extrapolates their own experiences to judge the entire world" is... WISE! They were scared of "barbarians" because of their knowledge AND experience of them, and with that reasoning they civilized much of the "barbarian" world.
You attack people (not just me - i read your replies to others in this thread) by accusing them for ignorance, stupidity, cowardness, racism, fanatism, etc, just because they express their objections to Islam/Muslims - i will give you an advise: READ SOME GREEK HISTORY... you may understand the irony of your accusations.