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Adult Dating Site Hack Reveals Users' Sexual Preference, Extramarital Affairs

An anonymous reader notes this report from Channel 4 News that Adult FriendFinder, one of the largest dating sites in the world, has suffered a database breach that revealed personal information for 3.9 million of its users. The leaked data includes email addresses, IP addresses, birth dates, postal codes, sexual preferences, and information indicating which of them are seeking extramarital affairs. There even seems to be data from accounts that were supposedly deleted. Channel 4 saw evidence that there were plans for a spam campaign against these users, and others are worried that a blackmail campaign will follow. "Where you've got names, dates of birth, ZIP codes, then that provides an opportunity to actually target specific individuals whether they be in government or healthcare for example, so you can profile that person and send more targeted blackmail-type emails," said cybercrime specialist Charlie McMurdy.

173 comments

  1. oh no by turkeydance · · Score: 5, Funny

    sorry, gotta go.

    1. Re:oh no by antdude · · Score: 1

      Go to do a turkey dance? :P

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  2. Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The leaked data includes email addresses, IP addresses, birth dates, postal codes, sexual preferences...

    Given that their list of choices for sexual preferences doesn't include tentacle-on-pregnant furry futanari, I think I'm pretty safe.

    1. Re:Not really by Githyanki · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I spent so much time on my profile just to have to go and delete it.

    2. Re:Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tentacle-on-pregnant furry futanari,

      That could be interesting, where do I sign up?

    3. Re:Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tentacle-on-pregnant furry futanari,

      That could be interesting, where do I sign up?

      The internet.

    4. Re:Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's probably some on e621.net, use the keywords to narrow it down.

  3. Lol by stowie · · Score: 0

    If you're gonna cheat, why do it on the Internet? People who continue to trust the anonymity of the web boggle my mind.

    1. Re:Lol by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you're gonna cheat, why do it on the Internet? People who continue to trust the anonymity of the web boggle my mind.

      The physical world doesn't offer much anonymity either. At least the Internet offers more choices. Just don't use your real name, or primary email address, and you'll be fine.

    2. Re:Lol by gbjbaanb · · Score: 3, Funny

      exactly, I wonder who was dumb enough to create a profile saying "Dave Brown of 22 Acacia Avenue AB1 3CD, wants to meet nice ladyboy for extramartial affair"? It'll be "single male, BigBrownie, of 1 nowhere place, wants to meet nice ladyboy"

      And as for the spam emails, I have a couple I use for all kinds of dodgy sites (eg slashdot) and I get loads of spam anyway.

      Still... .9 million users... that's a lot of people! I wonder why these dating sites charge so much per month for membership when they could just charge $1 and rake in the cash. Stack 'em high 'cos extramarital affairs are never going to go out of fashion - the only problem is ending up meeting your blind date and finding it's your wife!!

    3. Re:Lol by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      I wonder why these dating sites charge so much per month for membership when they could just charge $1 and rake in the cash.

      A higher fee is an effective filter. The "free" sites are garbage, with lots of phoney or dead profiles. I paid $99 for an annual membership to match.com, met several nice girls, married one of them, and I now have a wife, two kids and a dog. Compared to all the other expenses I have incurred, the $99 is negligible.

    4. Re:Lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      charging $1 on anything looks suspiciously like theft.

    5. Re:Lol by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

      Sites like AFF require payment. Unless you have a credit card setup under a fake identity, you're going to have to provide real data to use the site.

    6. Re:Lol by jmcwork · · Score: 1

      And that she likes pina coladas

    7. Re: Lol by dr_dank · · Score: 2

      That could happen if you both enjoy Piña Coladas and getting caught in the rain.

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    8. Re:Lol by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Sites like AFF require payment. Unless you have a credit card setup under a fake identity, you're going to have to provide real data to use the site.

      You can use Paypal instead of a credit card. But even if you use a CC, few sites require that the profile name/address and CC billing information match. This is especially true if their marginal cost is $0, as it is for dating sites.

    9. Re:Lol by zlives · · Score: 5, Funny

      you forgot to add the recurring charges ;) in your equation

    10. Re:Lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      and a dog

      So you couldn't have gotten a dog without match.com?

    11. Re:Lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like how you say free sites are garbage but then you say how you used a free site you paid a subscription to like a sucker to meet your wife. Cognitive dissonance much?

    12. Re:Lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they wouldn't get the name from the profile that's shown to other users. They would get it from the account information with the credit card details.

    13. Re:Lol by ATMAvatar · · Score: 1

      you forgot to add the recurring charges

      He mentioned the wife and kids, and then stated the $99 is negligible in comparison. What did he forget?

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    14. Re: Lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      only if you're not into Yoga

  4. How could you protect against this? by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

    You could encrypt all the data in the database, but that would only protect you from somebody able to access the database but not any of the decryption code (somewhat unlikely).

    Assuming full access to the database and code, is there any way to protect against being able to link identification with the rest of the personal information.

    I can only come up with the obvious client-side encryption, but will the network as a whole still be able to use the data as it's supposed to (in this case; find adult friends)?

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    1. Re:How could you protect against this? by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why do you assume the hackers got everything, instead of just pulling a little jimmy droptables, hell all they really needed to get that info is read only access and a select all statement..

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    2. Re:How could you protect against this? by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      How about securing your freaking server by locking down all ports and running only necessary services with access restrictions to allowed IPs? How about NOT using MySQL which is shit poor as far as security? How about not allowing direct DB over a Port and use an API over HTTPS instead? These are but a few obvious things that can be done to prevent someone from getting access to your DB's Data Files or accessing the DB itself.

    3. Re:How could you protect against this? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      You could do things like splitting email addresses off into a different database on a different server and just keeping a hash in the main one, but it's only mm marginally better. Basically you can't be both secure and provide this kind of service.

      As well as the terrible male to female ratio (16:1) the other big issue here is that deleted accounts were not really deleted. The European Right to be Forgotten is designed to force companies operating in the EU to really delete accounts, and this illustrates why it is needed.

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    4. Re:How could you protect against this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't store the information on your servers. A service like that does not need to know who their clients are in real life and where exactly they live. That information only needs to be shared from client to like-minded clients.

    5. Re:How could you protect against this? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

      The European Right to be Forgotten is designed to force companies operating in the EU to really delete accounts, and this illustrates why it is needed.

      I think you're confusing two different things here. The "right to be forgotten", as much discussed recently with regard to Google and the like, is primarily about search engines digging up old information that would otherwise naturally fade into obscurity, and in particular the danger of finding old information that looks plausible but may in fact be misleading without context or now incorrect/outdated.

      Sadly, most of us even in Europe still have rather limited rights to compel businesses not to store personal data about us or to delete that data on demand, if the data is correct, they register the fact that they are doing it with the appropriate national privacy regulator, and they can come up with some vaguely plausible argument for why they want to have the data.

      I guess a few million people are about to find out the hard way why some of us have been arguing for a long time that we should have stronger privacy safeguards in the Internet/big data/data mining age. I wish they didn't have to find out this way, though.

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    6. Re:How could you protect against this? by gbjbaanb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How about:

      a) not putting any kind of direct DB access in your website, using a middle tier layer (webservice?) to act as the DB access
      b) not letting the middle tier server access the DB directly, instead having to go through stored procedures
      c) basically not letting anyone run "select * from users" at all.

      Security can be done, but as long as we have websites that think "webserver" means all the back-end processing has to be running in the web server whether its IIS or Apache, and frameworks that assume all development must be done in 1 web-server hosted language.... then we will continue to see security breaches like this.

      You want to secure your site, split the web handling/presentation from the data processing, and the processing from the data extraction. Then slap as much security on the interfaces between these layers. Do not trust the webserver one bit. Assume the webserver is already hacked. Hell, do not trust the middle tier either - allow it only the limited data it needs for each part of the processing.

      I've done the above, its not nearly as difficult as the webdevs will say.

    7. Re:How could you protect against this? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      The search results thing is not the right to be forgotten. Some stupid journalists got confused and called it that, but that was actually just existing data protection rules dating back to the mid 90s.

      The right to be forgotten is still being looked at, but basically will allow EU citizens to require companies to delete data supplied by them (accounts, uploaded photos etc.) on request. The data must really be deleted, not just marked as dormant or whatever.

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    8. Re:How could you protect against this? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      I can only come up with the obvious client-side encryption, but will the network as a whole still be able to use the data as it's supposed to (in this case; find adult friends)?

      This. It seems sexual preferences, age and location is rather essential for the service they provide and email, well how else are they going to notify you that someone has taken an interest in you or that you got a reply? You can't ask a doctor to not work with medical data, there's of course good and poor security but at the end of the day if there's a total system compromise you're screwed.

      How could you protect against this?

      Best practice seems to be as follows:
      1. Public facing server makes web service call to locked down proxy server.
      2. Proxy server validates every request thoroughly, everything that looks even remotely funny is rejected.
      3. Proxy server queries stored procedure in locked down database, no SELECT * for you.
      4. The results are serialized back to XML and sent to the public facing server for display.

      A lot of work if you want to do it right, but you get a fairly good barrier to a total breach from the outside. Of course they could compromise your web server and start harvesting data, but you should have some sort of tripwire system for that with audits and logs checking for abnormal activity.

      The other way in is of course from your network, if they can compromise someone on the inside with database access or developers to plant vulnerabilities that'll go into the production system. But that's usually a much tougher route and really no different from breaking into any other secure network.

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    9. Re:How could you protect against this? by noxay · · Score: 1

      Its not always the difficulty standing in the way, sometimes its the money. The set up you are talking about is significantly more costly than a shared host with attached database. Granted a site like "Adult Friend Finder" probably has the cash to cover this, but not all sites that deal with eCommerce or saving user data have the funds for this.

    10. Re:How could you protect against this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just protect yourself. When you sign up for one of those sites, you use a separate email address from your normal one. For your credit card, you can use a prepaid VISA. It probably won't make you untrackable to folks like the gub'ment, but it will make it so you don't get any of your Personal Info disclosed.
      As a person posting as an Anonymous coward since it's birth on slashdot, I should know ;-)

    11. Re:How could you protect against this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > You could encrypt all the data in the database
      This is a non-trivial task, given that DBs need things like indexes, joins, statistics etc. to function properly. Solutions like CryptDB do exist, but few entities are responsible enough to deal with its limitations just for the sake of protecting their user's data.

      > but that would only protect you from somebody able to access the database but not any of the decryption code (somewhat unlikely).
      Not that unlikely, many hacks occur through sql injection, where often times the attacker doesn't have ways of reading anything other than db tables.

      > I can only come up with the obvious client-side encryption, but will the network as a whole still be able to use the data as it's supposed to (in this case; find adult friends)?
      In all likelihood, no. Though there is some research on machine learning over homomorphically encrypted data it seems.

    12. Re:How could you protect against this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that sounds damn near impossible with millions of nodes bouncing data around the internet. All it takes is one system that didn't get the memo, and you're shit is still out there.

    13. Re:How could you protect against this? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      The search results thing is not the right to be forgotten. Some stupid journalists got confused and called it that

      Those "stupid journalists" appear to be in good company, starting with official press releases from both the European Commission and indeed the European Court of Justice itself about the 2010 Spanish newspaper case.

      I would be the first to agree that moves towards a more powerful right to be forgotten such as you describe would be a good idea, but as of today, these are mostly just proposals. For example, while there is already a right under some limited circumstances to request deletion of personal data, the UK's data protection regulator has written guidance for data controllers that makes clear that the right is quite tightly constrained for the time being.

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    14. Re:How could you protect against this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you design it properly up front, it's not really much more costly (if at all). The problem is that most web devs don't know or care about proper development principles, let alone security. They know some JavaScript and think they're hot stuff, and no one can dissuade them from the one true language.

  5. NO! Not my IP address!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    After the last big hack I had to give up my old IP address, 192.168.0.1, which I had used for years. What a pain!

  6. Hopefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hopefully some of the users that will be approached will not be good candidates for blackmailing; because they already got out of the relationship they were trying to cheat on or have already come out of the closet with whatever sexual kink they have.

    Hopefully those users will contact police when they receive blackmail attempts and will aid in netting whoever is behind this

    1. Re:Hopefully by PPH · · Score: 2

      I get a kick out of how many people posting here assume that anyone using FriendFinder is a blackmail target due to this leaked information. There are singles who just might not care if others know they are out looking for f*buddies. And there are married people who might have open relationships.

      Some years ago, at an interview for a security clearance, these issues came up. "What would you do, Mr PPH, if someone threatened to publish pictures of you with some stripper?" Being single at the time I just said I'd order copies to be sent out as Christmas cards.

      Things have gotten quite a bit more sane since those days. The DoD is quite willing to work with people involved in alternative lifestyles from a security perspective. And many companies would just as likely remove an intolerant supervisor as an employee that didn't live up to some ideal of a Christian lifestyle.

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    2. Re:Hopefully by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Or maybe the police will use it to blackmail/persecute people they don't like: http://www.theguardian.com/com...

      I wouldn't trust the police to investigate any kind of sex related crime: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-328...

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  7. Re:useful by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 2

    Our government is out of control anyway, anything that allows blackmail, removal from office, misery in their lives. etc is a good thing

    While we're at it let's extend it to programmers, DBAs, sys admins an designers who cause us so much misery because they are too stupid or lazy to build secure systems.

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  8. Nuts and %$@) by tehlinux · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh no, now everyone will know I'm a white male age 18 to 49!

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    1. Re:Nuts and %$@) by tehlinux · · Score: 1

      Dammit, *straight* white male.

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    2. Re:Nuts and %$@) by Githyanki · · Score: 5, Funny

      You realize that putting quotes around it usually indicates that there is a nudge and wink going on at the same time. Reminds me of the joke: Guy sits and drinks at the bar till closing. Bartender tells him "Hey buddy, time to go, your the last one here." Guy pulls a gun on the bartender and forces him to give him a blow job. Partway through, the guy looses concentration and the gun slips down. Bartender picks it up and hands it back to the guy. "Dont want anyone to come in and catch me doing this and think I'm gay!!"

    3. Re:Nuts and %$@) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      You must be young. Asterisks around a word indicate emphasis (bold or italic text), not quotation marks.

    4. Re:Nuts and %$@) by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      You realize that putting quotes around it usually indicates that there is a nudge and wink going on at the same time

      And you realize that *straight*, as written by the poster, would produce bolded text in many editors, right?

      So, maybe you're not as "clever" as you think?

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    5. Re:Nuts and %$@) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) That wasn't quotes, it was asterisks for emphasis. Exact opposite meaning of what you're getting at.

      2) "You're the last one here."

    6. Re:Nuts and %$@) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or possibly too old to see that they were asterisks and not quotation marks.

    7. Re:Nuts and %$@) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who accuse others of being gay are often covering up their own latent homosexuality.

      (of course now I'm the one with "latent homosexuality" in my search history)

    8. Re: Nuts and %$@) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh shut the fuck up, I read it just fine. This is slashdot not a fucking 100 page thesis.

    9. Re:Nuts and %$@) by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      Or not using a large enough font or large enough monitor. Or using a font where the asterisk glyph is visually similar to a quote glyph.

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    10. Re:Nuts and %$@) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In particular the kind of emphasis that you would act on or demonstrate.

    11. Re: Nuts and %$@) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is slashdot not a fucking 100 page thesis.

      The typical response of the stupid is to stand their ground and be proud of it!

    12. Re: Nuts and %$@) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It should be even easier then. At least you know what a thesis is though.. ;)

    13. Re:Nuts and %$@) by OhSoLaMeow · · Score: 4, Funny

      That reminds me of a joke. Guy goes into a bar and orders a scotch. He downs that quickly and goes through three more in the same fashion. The bartender asks him if he's celebrating anything. The guy says "Yeah, just had my first blowjob." Bartender says "Congratulations! Here's another one, on the house." The guy says "No thanks. If four scotches won't get the taste out of my mouth, another one isn't going to help."

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    14. Re:Nuts and %$@) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have accessibility features like screen zoom and a choice of font size in your browser.

      Your fault for not using your tech properly.

      Hand in your nerd card.

  9. The data by Dynamoo · · Score: 5, Informative
    The data is a apparently a subset of 60 million records that the hackers are threatening to release.

    I've had a look at the data, there are very many easily identifiable people, for some of those there is date-of-birth data, ZIP code, "preferences", details of any money spent etc. There are a few people using their .gov email addresses for this, some of those can be verified by the IP address, some other email addresses belonging to other corporations. I would suspect that those are the people who are most at risk of blackmail. Remember too that an email addresses can be used to look people up on Facebook, which would make it easier for blackmailers to find potential victims.

    Not revealed in the breach (so far) are credit card data, real names (although many are obvious from the email addresses) or passwords. Although I notice that some people were smart enough to sign up with a throwaway email address, if they have actually paid for anything then they would have had to supply real contact details somewhere.

    The background story appears to be that a pissed-off affiliate who claims they were owed hundreds of thousands of dollars had a contact hack the database. It seems the hackers are demanding money else they will release the rest of the data.

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    1. Re:The data by QuasiSteve · · Score: 3, Informative

      While I agree with what you're trying to say here, I think GP actually meant that they could confirm that the IP address belongs to a range assigned to government institutions - i.e. it's not just people using their .gov e-mail address from home, but they're using it from what should be their public servant workplace - and not so much tying it to a specific individual.

    2. Re:The data by jittles · · Score: 1

      There are a few people using their .gov email addresses for this, some of those can be verified by the IP address

      No, you can't. Remember, several different court cases have stated, and people on here have wholeheartedly agreed, you can't tie an IP address to a person, even if there is only one person at a residence.

      So either you can use an IP address to tie it to someone or you can't. Which is it?

      You can verify that someone with a .gov email address accessed a website with an IP address that corresponds to a government entity in the US. That's about all you can safely do.

    3. Re:The data by QuasiSteve · · Score: 1

      some other email addresses belonging to other corporations. I would suspect that those are the people who are most at risk of blackmail

      Why even bother with blackmail, which could land you in your own legal hell?

      Instead of racistsgettingfired.tumblr.com, somebody could try setting up cheatersgettingfired.tumblr.com and get people fired for their infidelity (plans).

    4. Re:The data by mtrachtenberg · · Score: 1

      This is a disgrace. In America, only the NSA, other secret police type organizations, and J. Edgar Hoover are entitled to this data. I'll bet this is Snowden's fault. SCHULTZ!!!

    5. Re:The data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The data is a apparently a subset of 60 million records that the hackers are threatening to release.

      I've had a look at the data,

      Like where do you find this data .. for .. like .. um .. research purposes .. yeah that's right I need it for research purposes.

    6. Re:The data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A few jobs ago, I managed a small team, which I took over from a placeholder consultant holding down the fort til they made the permanent placement. I took over his PC and quickly discovered he'd been spending waaay too much time on AFF during work hours. Curious if I could find him in the leaked data...

    7. Re:The data by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      > It seems the hackers are demanding money else they will release the rest of the data.

      Would the hackers instead release the data in exchange for money?

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    8. Re:The data by joe_frisch · · Score: 1

      How does this work?
      Hackers claim they have a huge database of embarrassing information. How do they prove that they didn't simply invent the information?

      I have a "database" showing that Senator XYX has as thing for furries and garden implements. See - here I have a text file with Senator XYZ's name and a list of preferences......

      You could take any list of names and add arbitrary kinks, then threaten to release them. How do you show that this is the *real* database and not one you made up?

    9. Re:The data by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Also Google. But not for any evil purposes.

      Right.

  10. Churches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Suddenly many ministers are all going to 3 week long camps to be cured.

  11. Re:useful by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And, of course, let's not stop there ... let's move to the managers, executives, and sales/marketing assholes who force this shit out the door.

    The poor bastard of a programmer who has been told by the VP or the CEO (or the sales wanker) that the product must ship now, or that security doesn't matter is not always the cause of this. Sometimes they're the ones saying "umm, guys, this could be a problem".

    So, if we're assigning blame, let's go with the people who are actually to blame and who make the decisions.

    In the military, "just following orders" may not be a defense. But in private industry it's often the management who create these problems.

    Which is precisely why I say that corporations should be held to a legal standard for the protection of personal information, and should carry penalties for failure to do so.

    As long as corporations just say "oh, bummer dude" and have no penalties, they'll continue to cut as many corners as possible. Because there simply is no consequence for them.

    I'm as concerned about the management people who don't give a damn. Because they're the ones who make policy and decide that not sucking at security is too costly.

    So, want a secure internet? Kick an MBA or a CEO in the nuts, and tell them you'll keep doing it until they insist on secure code.

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  12. Filter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How did they ever filter out all the fake accounts? Hot horny locals, my ass.

    1. Re:Filter by Dynamoo · · Score: 2

      Actually, there are some clearly invalid or mis-typed email addresses in the list (e.g hotmial.com). So I am guessing that the addresses were not confirmed by the AFF system.

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    2. Re:Filter by PPH · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:Filter by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      I think I have found a e-mail address to use for disposable accounts. Now I wonder if there are lists of spammers e-mail that I can use for creating some perverse circular spam linkage.

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  13. I have 0 sympathy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think if you are having an extramarital affair then you deserve to be found out and/or blackmailed.

    It should be common knowledge that this sort of thing can happen on the internet. You continue at your own risk.

    1. Re:I have 0 sympathy by phayes · · Score: 1

      I have zero sympathy for Anonymous Cowards. I think that if people have something that they really need to say on /. that they should use their normal account. Who cares if they lose mod points. The people like you posting using AC accounts should be outed!

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    2. Re:I have 0 sympathy by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 1

      I have zero sympathy for Anonymous Cowards. I think that if people have something that they really need to say on /. that they should use their normal account. Who cares if they lose mod points. The people like you posting using AC accounts should be outed!

      That the AC was certainly extreme, I don't think anybody deserves to be blackmailed. He did have a point though, if you are cheating on your wife/husband you won't get much sympathy from me if you get found out and there is plenty of people who agree with me. The world is full of people who claim they are saving/improving their marriages/relationships and doing their spouse some sort of favour by cheating behind their backs instead of drumming up the courage to talk to their spouse and working out their relationship problems honestly. These individuals are all delusional and they all deserve to be found out because they are making their spouse's unknowingly waste their lives on a deceitful and untrustworthy excuse for a human being.

    3. Re:I have 0 sympathy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why assume they are having extramarital affairs?

      Back in the '90s I lived in Dallas for a few years. It was reported on the local news that some group had organized to videotape people going in and out of strip clubs.

      I never actually saw them doing this and I went to strip clubs quite often at the time so I assume it was mostly just to scare married men away who would be in trouble with the wife for seeing other women in g-strings and no top..

      I sort of wish I had seen them. I would have waved. I was single at the time and went to far too many strip clubs far too frequently Strip clubs are very eploitative - towards the customers. I can't blame the clubs and the dancers for exploiting me. Nobody ever forced me to go to any of them.

  14. Re:useful by rubycodez · · Score: 3

    You're confused, no one cares what they do in their spare time. In fact, the ones I've worked with that use the services of whores like to talk about it.

  15. Some visualization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How about some neat diagrams visualizing these data? Like relations between age, gender, residence, preferences, etc...

    1. Re: Some visualization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh god yes this please. Fuck all the blackmail stories; there's a sociologic goldmine in this data. Dissertations will be written on this for years to come.

    2. Re: Some visualization by Dynamoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      It goes something like this:
      Male, male, male, male, male, male, male pretending to be female, male, male, OMG what's that.

      --
      Never email donotemail@WeAreSpammers.com
    3. Re:Some visualization by LewekLeonek · · Score: 1

      How about some neat diagrams visualizing these data? Like relations between age, gender, residence, preferences, etc...

      You're absolutely right. This data could be great to use for big data tutorials.

  16. You insensitive clods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GayWAD was right, if yo've used Slashdot beta to find a sex partner, you now have no problems.

    1. Re:You insensitive clods by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 1

      GayWAD was right, if yo've used Slashdot beta to find a sex partner, you now have no problems.

      Actually, if you have managed to find a sex partner using Slashdot beta all you will have achieved is finding another person who needs to read several Wikipedia articles and closely study the diagrams before they can successfully have sex with another human being since both of your previous sexual experience will have been limited to a computer monitor and one or both of the prehensile, multi-fingered extremities attached to the upper limbs of your body.

  17. Delete you're email account... by kiphat · · Score: 1

    You can't send SPAM to an email that doesn't exist. Close the email account associated with the compromised account. Problem solved.

  18. Let's Be Honest by tiberus · · Score: 1
    Adult FriendFinder, one of the largest dating sites in the world

    Dating site of F^@( Buddy site.

    1. Re:Let's Be Honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello dutch person.

  19. Delete YOUR email account... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FTFY

    1. Re:Delete YOUR email account... by kiphat · · Score: 1

      Thanks. ;)

    2. Re:Delete YOUR email account... by DickBreath · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your never going too get you're weigh on this. Their are just two many people out they're using there words wrong too get to upset. Sew don't loose you're cool about it. You can sea mini common examples that exist of incorrect usage. People pick the write words two use according too there porpoises. But you'd have two be a fool to begin or end a sentence with the word "but". And only an idiot would begin or end a sentence with "and". And a preposition is a very bad word too end a sentence with.

      --

      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    3. Re:Delete YOUR email account... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comment, its great! I love it's use of irony.

    4. Re:Delete YOUR email account... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/an idiot/and idiot/

      Thanks...

  20. Re:NO! Not my IP address!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? I had to give up my 127.0.0.1.

  21. Re:NO! Not my IP address!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think that's bad? I had to give up my 127.0.0.1.

  22. Re:NO! Not my IP address!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my brazen, younger days, I used to publicly dare people to hack my site

  23. Trivial by puddingebola · · Score: 1

    I'm sure the information release was trivial and... oh my God. I didn't realize she still had those photos.

  24. OPSEC by lophophore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    my god, people, if you are going to use a site like that, don't use your real name, work email address, etc.

    consider that *everything* is going to get compromised -- if it is not already. use some common sense.

    --
    there are 3 kinds of people:
    * those who can count
    * those who can't
    1. Re:OPSEC by antiperimetaparalogo · · Score: 2

      use some common sense.

      there are 3 kinds of people:
      * those who can use some common sense
      * those who can't

      --
      Antisthenes: "Wisdom begins by examining the words/names." - excuse my English, i am (slightly...) better with my Greek!
    2. Re:OPSEC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my god, people, if you are going to use a site like that, don't use your real name, work email address, etc.

      consider that *everything* is going to get compromised -- if it is not already. use some common sense.

      Absolutely. Dating is easy if you fake all your contact info and use a fake picture. And there are absolutely no repercussions to faking credit card info. /sarcasm

      It is advisable not to use your work email for personal matters, but that seems the smallest part of this.

    3. Re:OPSEC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never give out any information that is not actually required and if they insist go elsewhere or make up fake information although I wonder how long it would take for that fake information to start becoming real simply due to repeating a lie too many times.

      If I really want to sign up for something and they insist on a birthday, I tell them it's 1/1/1970.

      When you sign up with a new ISP or utility they usually ask for a social security number. I tell them I don't have one.

      Sometimes you do have to use actual information (e.g. taxes, banking, voter registration) but most places really don't even need to know who you are as long as they get their money.

    4. Re:OPSEC by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      my god, people, if you are going to use a site like that, don't use your real name, work email address, etc.

      Well, you're making an assumption that people who use those sites are smart.

      I mean, I see ads for Ashley Madison, a site that gears itself for having affairs. Since they're TV ads, I can't imagine the people who log into it looking to have an affair are too bright to not use their real names or anything. Especially since the information contained on that site would be particularly interesting to a lot of people (suspicious partners, for example).

      As for those wanting people to pay so they can track them - I don't see the point. If the hackers were threatened with exposure, the best course of action is to release the entire list online. Sure it screws up future chances to make money, but those wanting to find them will suddenly get exposed (while the hackers take their money and run).

    5. Re:OPSEC by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 1

      my god, people, if you are going to use a site like that, don't use your real name, work email address

      Exactly, instead use your boss's. That was if nothing happens no harm done, and if something does happen a new promotion may be in your future.

      --
      Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the (supposed) good of its victims may be the most oppressive
  25. That raises the question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many Republicans? :-)

    1. Re:That raises the question by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      How many Republicans? :-)

      Probably around 49%. Add in 49% Democrat, and 2% other.
      Or were you trying to make a hyuckhyuck statement?

    2. Re:That raises the question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't be so worried about elected politicians. A lot of them have gotten in trouble for a lot worse than cheating on a spouse.

      It's the unelected bureaucrats I'm worried about (or maybe the staffers of Congressmen whose careers aren't so safe). The military has rules about the behavior of their officers and that includes cheating on their spouse. Such things can be used as leverage to pry out information or something.

    3. Re:That raises the question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How many Republicans? :-)

      Probably around 49%. Add in 49% Democrat, and 2% other.
      Or were you trying to make a hyuckhyuck statement?

      I suspect the implication was that Republicans, especially with Bible-thumping ones, tend to be hypocrites.

      I don't want to get drawn into the political aspect, but my experience has been that in general the louder the 'Christian' the worse the person. [Quiet Christians tend to be nicer.]

    4. Re:That raises the question by random+coward · · Score: 2

      Also implicit is that the only real sin is hypocrisy. Its okay to live an immoral lifestyle; but how dare you hold up morality and yet fall short. So its okay to be a Bill Clinton and dip into the intern pool, but don't be a Larry Craig and be for morality and tap your foot in the bathroom.

  26. Oh, shit. by happily_married · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is horrible.

  27. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I had an account but like all adult sites I sign up for I used a throwaway email, lie about my age and location, and only show my dick and balls in photos.

    And no will recognize the dick and balls as I'm a virgin in my 30s.

    1. Re:Meh by antdude · · Score: 1

      30s? Oh, please. Try 40s like The 40 Year Old Virgin. :P

      --
      Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
  28. Re:NO! Not my IP address!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Nice porn collection!

  29. Where's the sample data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, does anyone have a link to the sample that was released? Even with the e-mails and IP's and birthdates redacted? This kind of data merits some analysis: you don't often get giant dumps of such highly personal information collected from people who think they're protected by some sort of pledge of trust and secrecy. It would make for a fascinating paper.

  30. IRC link bot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I loved the IRC link bots that would read off title of a website/url linked in the room. http://localhost or http://127.0.0.1 would yield interesting results at times. Also a good reminder not to user IRC or browse from your public web server.

  31. This is why adultery is wrong by mi · · Score: 0

    anything that allows blackmail

    This is why people with substantial power — such as, first of all, government officials — must not engage in adultery or anything similarly reprehensible even if it is not illegal for the rest of us. Not because of some wicked "puritanism", but because it opens them up to blackmail, that corrupts government thus affecting all of us.

    Government officials — be they lawmakers, judges, or executives — must be squeaky fucking clean. (Same may apply to CEOs, but that's up to their shareholders.)

    --
    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
    1. Re:This is why adultery is wrong by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Either that or be open about it. It is hard to blackmail someone over something that is public knowledge.

      --
      while(1) attack(People.Sandy);
    2. Re:This is why adultery is wrong by disposable60 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Exactly. Be French about it.

      --
      You're looking for quotes? See my journal.
    3. Re:This is why adultery is wrong by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      This is why people with substantial power — such as, first of all, government officials — must not engage in adultery or anything similarly reprehensible even if it is not illegal for the rest of us. Not because of some wicked "puritanism", but because it opens them up to blackmail, that corrupts government thus affecting all of us.

      And if I do it, it opens me up to getting my throat slit in my sleep.

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    4. Re:This is why adultery is wrong by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Agreed. A while ago there was a big stink kicked up locally because a government official's mistress was about to fly in but his wife found out and was going to catch her, so he called the customs officials and had the mistress held at the airport and then deported to keep his affair under wraps (or at least keep the wife and mistress from meeting). The mistress had no idea why she was being held at the time. Officially it just looks like she was held and deported for no good reason at best - or profiling at worst.

      Of course in a small community, it's not in the news even though everybody knows it, on paper it's "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil."

      --
      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    5. Re:This is why adultery is wrong by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Either that or be open about it. It is hard to blackmail someone over something that is public knowledge.

      Huh. Apparently, you're right. You can be a 50-something politician and have an affair with the 17-year-old daughter of one of your law clients, get a plea deal to misdemeanors instead of a felony, and it's okay as long as you come out with it a couple of years later, present your new baby, and talk about your ambitions to be a leader in the state senate. Truth is stranger than fiction.

      --
      "Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
      --- Jerry Garcia
    6. Re:This is why adultery is wrong by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      remember the politician not wanting to be caught in bed with either dead 17 year old girl or live 17 year old boy

  32. Re:NO! Not my IP address!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad you've finally been forced to give up 192.168.0.1. Your bogus static IP address was causing routing problems on the LAN; some of our machines thought you were the gateway. Fortunately your MAC address wasn't the same as the gateway, so some of us still had Internet access.

  33. contact who has the data you requested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like where do you find this data .. for .. like .. um .. research purposes .. yeah that's right I need it for research purposes.

    I think housewifewhore@hotmail.com has a copy. Reach out to her. Feel me?

  34. Which of them are seeking extramarital affairs? by Pascoea · · Score: 1

    ...and information indicating which of them are seeking extramarital affairs

    Good. Fuck em. Let's see some good old fashioned public shaming. Cheating fucks.

    1. Re:Which of them are seeking extramarital affairs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't fucking them be giving them what they want?

    2. Re:Which of them are seeking extramarital affairs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? What business is it of yours? Go crawl back under your rock.

    3. Re:Which of them are seeking extramarital affairs? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Cheating fucks if your wife is doing it. It's OK if you're doing it.

      --
      Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!
    4. Re:Which of them are seeking extramarital affairs? by AnotherSeattlePrgmr · · Score: 0

      People should be in open relationships. It's the only rational thing to do.

  35. Look up your email address by OzPeter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the Ars story about this they pointed out a website that tracks beaches that I hadn't heard of before: ';--have i been pwned?

    I plugged my email addresses into this and found out that I had been a part of the Adobe breach fro October 2013. And I don't remember Adobe telling me about it

    --
    I am Slashdot. Are you Slashdot as well?
    1. Re:Look up your email address by tlambert · · Score: 2

      In the Ars story about this they pointed out a website that tracks beaches that I hadn't heard of before: ';--have i been pwned?

      Isn't that site just an alias for the "pleasepownmeheresmyemailaddress.com"?

    2. Re:Look up your email address by skegg · · Score: 1

      Hey bud, you would have been better-off using this:

      LastPass Adobe email hack check

      LastPass got a hold of the database and offers a checking service.

    3. Re:Look up your email address by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't remember whether Adobe ever told me about it, but about 6 months after the breach I started getting spam on my custom email address for my adobe account. On a typical weekday, I get 100-200 emails from blacklisted IP addresses, and another 100 IPs get auto-blacklisted because they're not from adobe.

    4. Re:Look up your email address by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no! bob@example.com has been pwned 2 times and been listed in 8 pastes.

  36. Re:useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as corporations just say "oh, bummer dude" and have no penalties, they'll continue to cut as many corners as possible. Because there simply is no consequence for them.

    We should start prediction markets for major data breaches of various websites.
    * If you're worried about a breach of a site you use, you can bet that it will happen as insurance.
    * If you're a website hacker, you can get paid for breaching websites without having to sell the data to cybercriminals.
    * If you're an admin for a website, you can make money off being forced to do stupid things by executives AND by improving security in ways they can't understand.
    * If you're an executive, you can see if a recent change was a good idea or a bad idea by the change in probability.
    * If you really hate a website for some reason you can bet that it won't be breached as a bounty.

  37. Re:useful by Krojack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Joking aside, the managers, executives, and sales/marketing assholes should be strung up for telling people your data was deleted when in fact it wasn't.

  38. Status update from AFF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As the protection of our customers is our utmost concern and in abundance of caution we have temporarily disabled the username search function and have begun to mask usernames of any users we believe were affected by the security issue. Users will still be able to log-in using their username and password but the username search functionality will be disabled until further notice. We are also creating a streamlined and easy process for users to change their usernames and passwords that will be live this weekend.

    If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact customer service. For further information please visit http://www.ffn.com/security-up...

    -------

    FriendFinder Networks Inc. has just been made aware of a potential data security issue and understands and fully appreciates the seriousness of the issue. We have already begun working closely with law enforcement and have launched a comprehensive investigation with the help of leading third-party forensics expert, Mandiant, a FireEye Company.

    Until the investigation is completed, it will be difficult to determine with certainty the full scope of the incident, but we will continue to work vigilantly to address this potential issue and will provide updates as we learn more from our investigation.

    We cannot speculate further about this issue, but rest assured, we pledge to take the appropriate steps needed to protect our customers if they are affected.

  39. Oh no! by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    I made such an effort to conceal my sexual orientation!

    --

    I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
  40. 95% of "women" on adult web sites... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... are horny males.

    The rest are a mix of people out to yank some wanker's chain for the lulz, those out for blackmail, and private investigators with a specific target in mind.

  41. Re:useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have been injured, feel free to sue. Fines are not needed if you can prove your case of damages.

  42. Re:useful by CaptainDork · · Score: 0

    This, precisely this.

    The solution is a class action suit against the company on behalf of the customers.

    --
    It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
  43. ...you may be sure that your sin will find you out by Smoodo · · Score: 1

    What my parents told me growing up comes to mind:
    http://biblehub.com/numbers/32... - "...you may be sure that your sin will find you out."
    At least anyone with fear of finally being exposed as dishonest has a warning sign to make amends with their partner.
    No one can fault you for the truth, although there may be consequences for the truth.

  44. I can understand the wife and kids... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I paid $99 for an annual membership to match.com, met several nice girls, married one of them, and I now have a wife, two kids and a dog.

    What kind of weird ass genetics do you have that you + wife = kid + kid + dog?!?!?

    1. Re:I can understand the wife and kids... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They're each half-dog with recessive genes, two human kids and one dog are the result.

    2. Re:I can understand the wife and kids... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are their own best friends.

  45. AFF was real??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All along I just figured it was a scam harvesting money from lonely guys. People actually used it for dating??? There were actually women on it???

  46. I felt a tremor in the force by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

    As though millions of divorce lawyers just orgasmed at once.

  47. Re:NO! Not my IP address!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tired of the old one? try this new site ::1

  48. My sexual preference by Snotnose · · Score: 3, Funny

    is "yes, please"

  49. Re:useful by CauseBy · · Score: 1

    All computers are vulnerable. The most secure systems in the world can be hacked. This one might have been insecure, but that isn't demonstrated just because it got hacked.

  50. To avoid blackmail by snizzitch · · Score: 1

    ... Let's all just go read all of the data for anyone we know, right now. Then there will be no potential for blackmail.

  51. I've seen the popups for AdultFriendFinder. by baenpb · · Score: 1

    But I honestly never realized that it's a site people go to on purpose. I mentally categorized it alongside any sort of "Click here and we'll install adware for you!" ads. Has anyone here had success using this service? Is it "cragslist-y"? I don't intend to start using it, just curious.

    1. Re:I've seen the popups for AdultFriendFinder. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      My wife and I have used it for years, but we are swingers and that seems to be the main target audience for this kind of site. We've met people over the years, had great experiences and a few bad ones, but we're still very active on AFF and continue to use it as paying members. There aren't many alternatives unfortunately, and while it definitely has that "cheap site that installs adware" feel based on the advertisements, the actual site is fairly decent and not that much different from Facebook.

      The only other real alternative to AFF is swinglifestyle, which is probably about the same size and has most of the same members. We're paying members to both sites, but swinglifestyle is definitely more low key and doesn't really advertise much.

  52. Re:...you may be sure that your sin will find you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was taught The Law: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will."

  53. Re:useful by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    What joking? I wasn't joking.

    I totally think delivering ass-whoopings to MBAs and CEOs for corporate malfeasance would solve a lot of problems.

    Because it would be better than this "non est mea culpa" shit we have now where CEOs issue some drivel apology and have no consequences.

    I'm not joking at all.

    --
    Lost at C:>. Found at C.
  54. Well, duh, it's in the name. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They didn't call it AdultFriendHider.

  55. Re:useful by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

    Are those public ass-whoopings, like getting spanked with a paddle in the town square?

  56. Re:useful by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    How about about a nice bonus for those in charge for firing those horrrible cost centers who provide no value and caused the leak. So smart. Not all scarce talent can be so gifted.

  57. Re:useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, want a secure internet? Kick an MBA or a CEO in the nuts, and tell them you'll keep doing it until they insist on secure code.

    And who do they insist on secure code to? Right, the DBAs, Sysadmins, and other IT guys who keep fucking it up.

    I'm sorry, but this "all my dbs are insecure because some MBA forced me to" wears thin after a while. It's been happening for years - at what point will "knowing how to secure my applications and services properly" be part of the performance standards required of these DBAs and Sysadmins?

    It's nice to just blame upwards and say I told you so... but if you're not actually building your systems with security in mind from the ground up, you're just as much part of the problem as these mythical managers who say "fuck securing things, I want revenue tomorrow and don't care whose data I have to leak to do it!"

  58. Re:useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure. Of course, you're going to prove that it was a management directive, and not just plain old IT incompetence or malice that led to "deleted" profiles being left around in the system, right?

    If the IT guys are partly to blame, they should be lined up right alongside their managers for those whippings. And I'm pretty sure that you'll find more often than not that the IT guys are just as clueless and incompetent as their clueless and incompetent bosses.

  59. "Adult" dating site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, but aren't all dating sites for adults? I mean, I've never heard of one for kids.

  60. Re:useful by ksheff · · Score: 1

    caning and flogging them would be ok.

    --
    the good ground has been paved over by suicidal maniacs
  61. You don't say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Direclty from the article:

    The front page of Adult FriendFinder, which is based in California, features photos of dozens of attractive young women. Yet the hacked data, contained in 15 spreadsheets, reveals how few females appear to use Adult FriendFinder.

    Among the 26,939 users with a UK email address, for example, there are just 1,596 who identified as female: a ratio of one woman to every 16 men.

    This right there is why when I was single I gave on regular dating sites and completely avoided the adult dating sites. Much easier to meet people in person and significantly less competition.

    Not to mention the unrealistic expectations of not just a woman, but a woman that has 10k guys sending her emails. The poor girls end up randomly clicking emails because most of them are the same anyway and there are way to many of them. Good luck.

  62. Re:useful by ATMAvatar · · Score: 1

    Sure. Of course, you're going to prove that it was a management directive, and not just plain old IT incompetence or malice that led to "deleted" profiles being left around in the system, right?

    If the IT guys are partly to blame, they should be lined up right alongside their managers for those whippings. And I'm pretty sure that you'll find more often than not that the IT guys are just as clueless and incompetent as their clueless and incompetent bosses.

    Irrelevant.

    Obviously, if it was a management directive, it's management's fault. However, if the lack of security is due to ignorance/incompetence on the part of IT, it's still management's fault, as it's their job to hire and/or train IT for security (and fire if necessary).

    Internally, management is free to assign blame and take action against IT, be it through improvement plants, pink slips, or (in the case of malice) lawsuits. But make no mistake - management holds final responsibility - that's part of being in leadership.

    --
    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
  63. blackmailing cheaters by HughJazz · · Score: 1

    Those that would blackmail cheaters of course should be treated as criminals as their motives are greed. However, if they happened to put that information all over the Internet I would applaud it. Cheating on a spouse isn't a crime but as close as you can get to one without actually being one. The emotional suffering, that can last for years, that unethical knuckleheads cause their spouses hurts their own children as well. People that are married and cheat not only deserve to be exposed but it's a moral imperative that they are exposed. .

  64. Re:useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry to inform you but anything you put out on the Internet especially a corporate owned site is never fully deleted.

    Never!

  65. Re:NO! Not my IP address!!! by antdude · · Score: 1

    Me too, but with 127.0.0.1! D:

    --
    Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).