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An anonymous reader writes: For those of us who don't need or want a smartphone, what would be the best dumb phone around? Do you have a preference over flip or candy bar ones? What about ones that have FM radio? Do any of you still use dumb phones in this smart phone era? Related question: What smart phones out now are (or can be reasonably outfitted to be) closest to a dumb phone, considering reliability, simplicity, and battery life? I don't especially want to give up a swiping keyboard, a decent camera, or podcast playback, but I do miss being able to go 5 or more days on a single charge.
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I prefer candybar, but you can't get the indestructible Nokia brick phones anymore. Last 4 or 5 have been cheap flip phones @ $5 a pop.
Some smart phones have an "ultra power saving mode" (see Samsung Galaxy 5/6) that essentially turns them into dumb phones. My Galaxy 5 will last 2 weeks in this mode.
So, you want a dumb phone, but you want it to have smart phone features, and a huge battery charge, and lots of doo-dads and stuff ... just like a smart phone?
Well, good luck with that.
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Those things really are indestructible. I would hop on Amazon or ebay and pick up a used one. Definitely worth it.
If that is not an option, then I would go something candybar. Every phone I have seen broken that had moving parts broke at the moving parts.
Get any old phone that can manage 3 days standby, then put an extended battery in it. Problem solved, and your phone doesn't suck ass.
I don't especially want to give up a swiping keyboard, a decent camera, or podcast playback
Then you're stuck, or get a tablet.
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There are a billion Nokia phones around that are newer than 2003.
It looks like a blackberry, has a real keyboard, and can stay charged for 3-4 days while in use for texting. It has GPS, bluetooth, and web. but really not. I have this phone as a dumb phone...no data plan. It's pretty good.
Wall mount, plug in power block. Totally indestructible in either rotary or touch tone.
Motorola Razr v3xx is probably one of the best handsets of all time.
That said, its old, uses a now non-standard charge port, and all the hacked tools are no longer readily available.(Motorola PST, Qualcom's tool, etc...)
Everything you need in a phone.
What's the best dumb phone? I want calls, voice mail, text message and battery life. That's it.
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That related question that the editors added to the OP's question is going to screw the thread up.
They are hardly related -- and were obviously written by separate individuals.
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My parents still have one of these in their house, and it still works fine (even if dialing is tedious):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Since it's around 50 years old and still working, I'd say it's the best dumb phone.
brick/gumstick nokia phones sold in east asia (india, etc) are often marketed to users who have limited infrastructure. as such they're designed with the resilliance characteristics you mention
I had a previous version of the Nokia 1616: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_1616-3007.php
With 500-600 hours of standby it probably serves your purposes. just make sure to get a version with the transmission bands of the area you want to use it in.
Actually for this set of needs, take a look at the Nokia Lumia 635. Dirt cheap (off contract), good battery life, FM radio inbuilt, and no huge app store full of loads of apps to distract you with complexity (#iceburn). Seriously, I have a few of these on the bench at home for development work, and I recently replaced my in-laws' several-year-old flip phones with 635s. At the time I purchased them I believe they cost $59; they're now $49 (AT&T GoPhone variant).
iPhone would be an option, but that still won't get you five days of battey life.
Many androids out there that you can root and strip down, and even underclock to improve battery life. Again that wont get you 5 days though.
The summary 100% contradicts the entire point of the article.
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I've done a lot of research on this, and the Nokia Asha 501 is the best dumb phone I've found: http://amzn.to/1HncbcC
I purchased it because it was the most smartphone-like phone on which AT&T does not require a data plan (my definition of dumb phone, yours may vary). The battery lasts a few days when using it mostly for music and internet, or a couple weeks (!) when using it for calls only. It's small, but not too small to be useful. With it's built-in WiFi, it's the only dumbphone that I know that will do Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, Email, and even a small number of games.
This is not going to touch any iPhone or Android phone by a long shot, but for the price it does pretty well.
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Personally I always like my old Nokia 5190 built like a tank, it made phone calls, and with the Li-ion battery instead of the NiMH it would go almost 2 weeks on a charge. That said I gave up on non smart phones recently as the last time I needed to replace my phone the only non smartphones available at the store were the flip phone model that went to shit on me in 8 months that I was replacing and the display model for a candy bar phone that they were otherwise out of stock of. I don't play "angry flappy craft" or tweet about my latest bowl movement from the stall at work but I do like the ability of my current phone to accept a huge SD card filled with my music and that it can run Navit but other than that one program I could do everything I currently do with a simple dumb phone.
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It's a smartphone with great battery life. 4/5 days to me.
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I love this phone combination:
1) Samsung Galaxy S4
2) Ginormous battery from ZeroLemon or equivalent
Cost: $300 for phone, $40 for the battery (current Amazon prices) so total is modest at $340
Great phone, lasts me for 3-5 days with moderate to heavy use, and will run any Android stuff I can think of. I use Cyanogenmod on mine, you might choose stock or some other variant, but this thing is quite durable and lasts forever.
>I miss being able to go 5 or more days on a single charge
I have a Lumia, and what is this?
In ultra power saving mode, a galaxy s5 will last two weeks, with very good call quality. Plus it cash become a supercomputer if you find the need.
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Should get you several days if you use it as a dumb phone. All that means is turning off bluetooth, wifi, notifications to all apps, gps to all apps, etc.
Battery cases on Amazon sell for around $50 and it's like doubling the battery size or more, depending on the case you get. Since the phone is so thin, it makes little difference although you can get very thick battery cases that more than triple existing battery.
Available in single or dual sim - and an incredible 30 days (yes, one month) standby time.
I'm still using the Nokia N73 I bought in 2006. It lasts about a week on a charge, but then again I don't really use it that often. I did have to replace the battery about 2 years back, but 7 years on a single battery seems fair enough. The only reason I'd give it up is the text on the screen is tiny and it's getting hard for my old bastard eyes to read it now.
Maybe you should try getting a second hand handset of ebay?
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Get a used yard sale special or two and check the IMEI online before you buy. In much of the US Verizon has the best service in outlying areas so a used verizon flip or candybar is good.
Get a phone with a standard charging port, Micro usb ftw.
If the battery is removable check if it looks puffed up. Avoid those.
Don't spend more than $10 on a used non-smartphone.
Avoid blackberry.
You can check IMEI on various websites. One of them is: http://www.imei.info/
Samsung's flip phone works good. I moved up from a Motorola V120e, (if I remember correctly).
It's not really a dumb phone per say. The term I think is feature phone. It has a quite usable
calendar and contacts, simple messaging, (SMS?), and decent battery life. Meaning if I don't
use it for calls much, it can last 2 weeks or more.
No camera, but some of the places I've worked, any camera would have to be checked in at
the front desk. But, this one is okay.
All that said, I have a MotoG LTE available, which at present I only use with WiFi as a small
tablet, (like an iPOD).
People tend to keep their old phones and there's little reason why you couldn't just re-activate some else's. Perhaps ask a friend for his and use that older model? If that doesn't work for you, Walmart still has old style phones in their electronics departments... I feel your pain though.... I use a phone to communicate, not to look at mini-versions of Facebook. Also touch screens annoy the crap out of me (unresponsive and typo prone). I use a 6 year old Samsung slide phone ATM. Laziness and a physical keyboard is why I keep it. I can wait long enough to open my laptop if I want an "app".
Pretty dumb phone, although with some effort you can browse, text, even take crude pictures. If you choose the right plan at Tracfone and keep to less than 1 minute a day, you can get by for ~$5 a month. Of course at home I wouldn't use anything other than my genuine Western Electric rotary-dial.
Several months ago, I spent many hours researching the same question, and eventually settled on the Nokia 515. I got the phone, and am very happy with it.
http://www.amazon.com/Pantech-txt8045-Txt8045-Jest-2/dp/B00BPWQ08S
Just a cell phone. Camera is 1600x1200, which is grainy. Has a decently useable qwerty keyboard that slides out. Have had it for 4 years now, not a single issue. Battery life is around 2 weeks with light usage. Heavy calling and txting maybe will need a charge before the week is done. My only issue is that the speakerphone button is not protected when the phone is locked, so you can easily hit the speakerphone button when it is you pocket.
I just bought the Exelvan MTK6260A phone watch (2G) and it's great! Battery lasts 4-5 days, 1-2 days when using bluetooth a lot.
http://www.amazon.com/Excelvan...
All the cheap dumbphones I see are 2g only. There are 3g ones, but they cost more (perhaps ~$50 to $100). Problem is, there are cheap Android phones in that price range. There's also the Nokia Asha which is a feature phone series and those cost around $80 as well.
Added to that, a lot of dumbphones aren't sold in the US market.
Obviously the Sony-Ericsson k800i. Great camera for the time, stellar audio and a battery life of 3+ days. Nowadays umm nothing.
If you want a smartphone that isn't a smartphone, I am assuming you want to avoid the app infrastructure of apple and google? I have no idea what your actual goal is, but blackberry solved this ages ago. What you really seem to want is a smartphone from before iPhones ruined the market for practical smartphones.
I submit to you: Blackberry Bold
insane battery life (remember BB was competing with dumb phones not smartphones, so the charge every 8 hours thing hadn't started yet) - 12 days standby 6 hours talk, 50 hours audio playback
camera, sure it has a decent camera
Insanely good Keyboard that openly laughs at "swipe" keyboards.
Podcasts, sure
costs about 80 dollars now.
you didn't say wireless phone...
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Best dumb phone you can get!
I have a Samsung flip phone through T-Mobile.
The PHONE is great. I can't drop it from high enough to break it. Good battery life. Good reception, good microphone. Reasonably easy to use. Small.
BUT, if you get it you're going to get several messages a day from TMobile offering you something you aren't interested in. No matter how often you ask, TMobile continues to send out spam to your phone. (I guess technically it isn't spam, but I don't want it!)
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then just use my laptop/pad for anything resembling internet usage.
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I really enjoy my Samsung Rugby III. http://www.samsung.com/ca/cons... It has a memo feature that is handy, a calendar, and each feature can be locked or kept open depending on your preference.
For POTS lines I prefer the Western Electric 2500 or 2554 depending on a tabletop vs wallmount application. They were designed when the phone company owned them and they were leased with the service, so they were overdesigned to last decades. Nearly every phone in my house is one of these two models.
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It has a camera / video. Only a numeric keypad (with the ability to do SHORT text...).
It is on 24/7 and not used much, but I get a week or two and would not want to give that up.
One secret is "don't charge it unless it needs (1 bar and going somewhere or flashing) it and immediately take it off charge"
Currently using the 2700 c-2, none of the advanced features ever get in my way, it survives kids throwing with it and has great battery life.
Works great.
Calling, Text, Calendar, 2mp camera, and basic functions!
Battery life new: 4-5 days
Battery life old: 2-3 days
Getting trickier to find these days.
Is a smart phone, runs android 4.2, lasts over a week if only dumb phone features are used. 100 or so dollars.
Obviously how much you talk on it like a dumb phone matters, if I don't use it much I can get two weeks
Wanting a feature phone makes about as much sense as wanting an old wooden phone with a separate earpiece and the cone that you have to shout into. Technology doesn't stand still, and most feature phones are going to have poor reception since they won't support any of the newer networks. For example, Bell Canada's network is HSPA+, and does not support 2G GSM at all.
With smartphones available for forty to fifty bucks (like the Lumia 530), feature phones just don't make sense.
Dumb phones are sort of like mechanical keyboards. Robust, archaic technology that works really well for what you need it for. However, they don't have as many flashy lights and can be a bit annoying for some around when you type on them - and in the end are going to rise in price because there isn't enough demand for them.
Get any of the cheap Kyocera. They're indestructible, and inexpensive (~$20 new). My S2100 last easily 2 weeks per charge. Probably closer to 3 with a new battery. I like the flip better than the candy-bar style as I'm abusive with electronics that I carry around. I think the flip protects the screen more...
No keyboard, no touch. Yes, I need to hit '1'-'1'-'1' for C, etc. when TXTing. But I hardly ever send TXTs, so it works for me. Calls are fine.
IP67 waterproofing. Basically indestructible, and a zillion years battery life. What isn't there to like? http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-solid-immerse-review
Western Electric
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_cedar-3404.php
Phillips Nexium is a winner, in my view.
Batteries last almost one month, of course less if you will be talking nonstop. Some models have slots for 2 sim cards, some can have three sim cards.
No need to waste time monkeying around with the smartphone.
i love my LG Tracfone - i charge it, then only turn it on when i need to send a txt msg or make a call or use its calculator in the store - a full charge lasts MONTHS this way - oh, and the price? yep, $49 a year with pay-as-you-go and rollover minutes and triple minutes for life... the phone was $39.95, has a flip QWERTY, takes pics, plays music, etc. - what's not to like? Smartphones are overkill for me, but then again, i'm the type to sit on my front porch and yell at the neighborhood kids to 'Get the hell off my lawn!' :-)
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So, you want a dumb phone, but you want it to have smart phone features, and a huge battery charge, and lots of doo-dads and stuff ... just like a smart phone?
Well, good luck with that.
Why the sarcasm? The W995 from 2009 could have met a lot of the criteria, minus the swiping keyboard:
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_W995
* http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w995-2682.php
Use the (advanced) search functionality of GSM Arena, and you can get pretty good results. Nokia has some pretty good options for the "developing" world that would probably meet the OP's needs.
I'm happy with the low end Blu phones. $20 for an unlocked dual sim phone on newegg. They have dozens of models. I use a candy bar, my wife texts more and used the blackberry style. Run a full week on a charge, and basically bulletproof.
Best dumb phone I've ever had. I still have one that travels with me for using cheap burner chips. Dead reliable and still available for around $40.00 new.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
How aboutsenior citizen phones? Those models are like dumbphones with their long battery life, lack of internet access and classic front buttons (no touch screen).
Where they differ most from regular dumbphones is that they have extra large buttons which also have extra large labelling. The user interface is a bit simplified, often using extra large fonts. Many models also have a dedicated emergency call button.
While senior citizen smartphones exist as well, senior citizen dumphones are an interesting niche market.
I recently bought one for my mother for 50€. It looks a bit idiotic with the large buttons, otherwise it is a very good dumbphone.
It's 8 years old. I don't know if you can still buy them. It has had one battery change about 3 years ago and works great. It's a CDMA phone on the Verizon network. I pay $5.94 (including tax and fees) per month for 20 minutes of talk time. I have disabled voice mail and text messaging on the phone. So the phone rings and I talk, but not for long. In an emergency I can make calls... short calls. That's all I need in a mobile phone.
I should mention that I have a google voice number that rings my cell phone and my computer (Google Talk/ Hangouts). With a Plantronics headset, that computer-phone is the best sound quality I've ever had on a phone call. And it's free assuming you already have a wifi connection. Google records voice mail and allows free texting. So I have all the features of a quality smart phone for a very low cost.
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the highly rated models i think are good enough. qwerty slider keyboards i prefer to 'swype'
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My best dumb phone was also the last dumb phone I had, when it was time to get something new, there was no dumb phone that could match it anymore, everything that could match the functions I relied on, were smart phones.
It was the Sony Ericsson W995. It had everything I need, besides easy to use as a phone, you could call anyone blindfolded and with one hand behind your back, it also had a decent camera, I could check on my mail and it even had google maps. Frequent use with a bluetooth headset still gave more than a week worth of battery life.
I had it for 5 years before I had to get a new phone, a smart phone, that I really don't use much different, and still needs to be recharged once a day.
3 years later and I still miss it, I still have it as a backup but it's been through so much, that it is not 100% reliable anymore. I've dropped it many times, once on a highway in thailand when it was sitting on the dashboard when it flew out the window in a curve. Pieced it together and it still worked...
I would have gotten a new one but realised too late that it was discontinued, so 3 years ago when I had to get a new one there were no w995 to be found anywhere.
In short, a great phone with the extras that you really need from time to time, and when it comes to making calls, way smarter than the phones of today.
Samsung t139. It costs about $15 to $20 brand new (unsubsidized). I spend $5 to $10 per month on minutes (T-Mobile).
No idea what you can get now.
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I am still using my LX5400 (guess, don't want to pull batt) from like 2008 :)
Currently on it's 2nd battery ALSO from 2008. Actually, I also swapped phones last year because my backup was in much better shape cosmeticly.
I am impressed I still have a battery that lasts all week :)
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If they're not keen on the eBay route and getting themselves a second hand Nokia, then they still make these simple/dumb phones, it's just that they're now targeted at seniors, e.g. http://www.phonearena.com/news/7-cell-phones-designed-for-seniors-and-the-elderly_id64671. The 90+ year old over the road from has one of the Doro's, it's simple to use, pretty damn robust, survives on occasional charging, looks wise it's fugly but I doubt that's a particular concern.
I've been getting a bunch of BLU phones for the kids for about $20 - $30 a pop.
http://www.amazon.com/BLU-Unlo...
They're by no means nice phones, but they have a good feature set, and we haven't had any problems with them that weren't caused by dropping them into puddles or sending them on a ride through the laundry machine.
BLU also has a slightly larger one with a full Blackberry-like keyboard for texting that also has a broadcast TV receiver instead of just FM radio.
nokia has a range of smartphones from the 520/521, and on up to 435/535/635/etc. when you get up over $100, you can start looking at the motorola moto e and g.
AT&T 210M Trimline; no battery needed, it gets it's power from your landline so it works in a power outage, never has reception issues.
Hey, if you are going to be retro-technology boy for no good reason, might as well plug your phone into the wall while you are at it.
Answer to the related question... "What smart phones out now are (or can be reasonably outfitted to be) closest to a dumb phone, considering reliability, simplicity, and battery life?".
That's easy: any of them that you don't install all of those crappy, battery-sucking Apps on, and turn off polling for push notifications from Facebook, email, and so on, so they they aren't constantly running the battery down because then they can actually get the application processor into sleep state once in a while without some stupid polling interval waking them up to use more battery every few picoseconds.
I'm using a 6310 and a 6210 here. Nokia from before they sucked. (Someone, everybody, nag them to open that source. For both software and hardware, why not.)
The Motofone F3 is dirt cheap, light, compact and lasts long on a charge. It features an epaper display that is perfectly readable in full sunlight and is always on. It's quite convenient to be able to read the time without pressing the power button first. The disadvantage is that the segment display shows only a few letters at a time. If you want to do any amount of texting, it's too inconvenient.
Really, the only advantage to a dumphone is the inexpensive cost to replace it, should it become lost or broken. Most non-contract wireless providers with a "bring your own phone" option are perfectly happy letting you use a cheap plan on a modern flagship smartphone, so being a Luddite won't save you much on your monthly wireless bill.
Regarding battery life, the main reason smartphones don't have the endurance of dumbphones comes down to how people use them. If you turn off mobile data, WiFi, Bluetooth and background app refresh, even an iPhone 5 can go a week on standby. You could also just buy an extended battery, portable USB pack, car charger, solar charger, etc.
I suspect this is more about longing for the "good old days" when people didn't expect you to be reachable through e-mail and at least 3 different social networks. Sorry, but using a dumbphone won't bring those days back.
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Find a deadstock Nokia E51 or an E72. 310h standby for the E51, 480h standby for the E72. Both have a basic email client, and a webkit based browser... some of the greats of that era of Smartphones. I still use an E72 as a travel phone and/or back when necessary, such as travel to rural areas of Africa and Asia.
One generation newer than the E51, with up to 672h.
Nokia 1616 with a 1020mAh battery lasts more than ten days.
So dumb.
I kinda prefer the 500 (like 2500 but dial), little more classy. Not very good when calling a robot that needs you to press "1" for something, though.
Still have one, but killed the landline some years back now...
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If you're like me, it's the expense of your talk, text and data plan that you dislike, not the features of a smartphone.
I pay $20 every 90 days to Virgin Mobile (works out to $6.67 per month). I'll upgrade to a smart phone if and when the price of a plan that includes a reasonable amount of data drops to $15 per month. Until then, I'll make a mental note of what online content I'd like to consume, and wait until I get home to consume it.
Calculate the annual cost of your cell phone plan; do you find that having instant gratification of your online desires is worth that cost? Not judging; just curious.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
You really don't want any other features. I literally just chucked one into the alleyway. Send me $5 and I'll retrieve it and USPS it anywhere in the US.
If your reason is for extended battery life and limited need for apps you might want ti investigate some androids that have the "ultra power saving mode". My samsung S5 when switched into this mode will tell me how many days it will last, which might be 5..7 or so. You will have both voice an text available and can optionally enable some apps of your own choosing at the expense of battery time. This wat you always have the option to reset it and use it normally for power hungry apps.
The iPhone wins this one too, in my book, hands down.
Maybe it's just me, but I think Siri is getting dumber with each iOS update. In iOS 6 it sounded artificial and it was comical to listen to it try to form English words. This was improved in iOS 7, but it seemed as if it was having a harder time understanding me. When they added the feature that Siri would show what it thought the user was saying in REAL TIME, it would, (and I can't recall if this was in iOS 7 or 8, but one of the two,) get it right, then frustratingly self-autocorrect to something OTHER than what I said, which was maddening to watch, almost like the machine Mike Nesmith was talking to in that one episode of the Monkees when they were all looking for new jobs.
("Mike Not-what"
"No, Nesmith."
"Not, 'Not-what,' Nitwit!")
I actually started yelling at the damned thing, attracting a LOT of unwanted attention, and had to explain I wasn't screaming at someone over the phone, (some very hurtful things,) but at THE PHONE ITSELF. I had to show someone the screen just to prove I wasn't an abusive asshole... which maybe I am, but I wasn't being at just that moment.
Anyway, it's gotten to the point where I don't really even use Siri anymore, because it's become so utterly fucking useless. It SOUNDS great, though. JUST like a human woman, really. Like a stereotypically STUPID, dumb-blonde human woman.
Half the time, it's like I'm getting, "Like, OMG! Siri like, TOE-tally unavailable. You should like, um, totally connect to the Internet! Fer-sure, you know?"
Congratulations Apple, and thanks. You're helping stoke the fires of misogyny by making women sound stupid. Have to wonder if this would still be the case if the man in charge of Apple actually LIKED women... or better-still, WERE one?
Imagine if Gloria Steinem ran Apple? Or Margaret Atwood? That would be a fun project. Envision every smart, influential or powerful woman you've ever heard of as the new CEO of Apple, and what effect that would have.
For example, Anne Rice's Apple would produce iPhones that exploded the instant they were exposed to sunlight, but if you keep them in the dark, they last FOREVER! On the downside, they'd be really tough to update; they'd basically be stuck forever in the year when they were made, unchangeable, one might even say, "decadent, USELESS..."
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It's served me well for about 4 years now - still gets about 10 days on standby from a full charge on its original battery. SO & kids all have Samsung feature phones (not sure of the model - they look like Blackberry ripoffs) that take up to 64Gb MicroSD cards and seem quite happy with them. They're still on sale for around â90 (though sometimes on offer for ~â60) and seem to be in short supply, so I assume they're popular.
Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Low power, only two openings with a sealed keyboard. e-ink display. Two week battery life. Get one!!
You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson: never try.
I have two. One to charge one of the three spare batteries. The other to use all the time. The battery lasts for days. The LCD black/white screen is readable in direct sunlight, like a Casio digital watch. The feel of the buttons means I can operate it without hardly looking at it. I dropped it onto tarmac while cycling. The front and back came off. I snapped the three pieces back together and it still worked. If I do break it, another costs £10. The mobile reception is good so it can make calls when others cannot. When the numbers wore off the keypad, a new keypad made it look much better.
The Nokia boom mic headset HDB-5 is a little masterpiece, it fits neatly on the ear and it can be plugged in by feel alone. Yes, the wire gets tangled sometimes but with no battery to go flat, it is better. For cycling, the mic end in a small piece of black foam trimmed to shape keeps the wind noise out. The stopwatch, alarm clock and calculator are useful. Certain callers I have assigned custom ring tones to, so I know when certain people call without having to look. I hold down a number button to dial certain numbers, for example, I hold button 1 for voicemail and 2 for home.
The only problem with this phone is when the keypad is unlocked, if I start dialling a number straightaway it will 'forget' the first few digits dialled and then I have to try again. There is a delay of about 2 seconds after unlocking the keypad before a number can be dialled manually. If I use the speed dial eg 2 for home then this doesn't happen.
Apart from that, it is in my opinion an almost perfect design. I like the Unix philosophy of small tools, where each does its job very well. I see no reason to ever have any other mobile phone for calls and text messages.
The problem with using a Windows Phone is that AT&T will probably still make you pay for a data plan that you don't use.
http://johnsphones.org/
except no swiping, etc. just a phone.
100 or so dollars.
Plus how much per month? AT&T forces "smartphone" users to buy a data plan.
Plus zerolemon 3.5x battery. This fucker lasts 7 to 9 days with moderate useage. And 4 to 5 with music camera internet email etc. Plus at .75in thick it adds much needed heft to a slippery phone
Now the tethering thing would have value for me, if it would allow me to shut off the expensive DSL service to my home. Is that realistic? Who's your provider, and what kind of speed/reliability do you get?
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
I still have a Model 500 around here somewhere. As a teenager I had modified it to allow me to record telephone conversations to cassette tape.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
There is not a single good dumb phone. I considered carrying a tablet (pre-phablets) and dumb phone for awhile, but gave up when realizing none existed.
or the C6-00 with the slider keyboard.
great phones, great sound quality, weeklong battery life. great camera in good light
too many variables. If you choose a big name provider then there are more cell towers and lower power required by the phone, thus longer battery life, and put it into flight mode at night, or turn it off, for even longer battery life. No-one ever calls while you are asleep. :-) remove all but essential apps, except messaging and phone, turn off bluetooth and Wifi, and there you have a smartphone made dumb. You didn't mention a need for CDMA, 2G, 3G or 4G, which may limit your choices.
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I have had a couple Motorola v19x series for the better part of the last decade (v190, v195, v197). A fantastic dump phone if you want great battery life, great reception, and durability.
I have carried as many as 3 different phones at the same time... with a single exception, the v19x has always had signal where the others do not. Battery life is 10-14 days standby, 6-8 hours talk time. Actual numbers, not marketing baloney, I've been stuck inside a client building on a continuous 7 hour call before, debugging failed routers while talking to remote techs, while on a v195 with wired headset... the phone was still had battery life to go.
The only complaints are:
1) Battery replacements - after about 3-4 years of use the LiIon batteries swell and lose significant capacity. Most of the replacement batteries offered out there are actually 3-6 year old NOS which the seller won't tell you.
2) Several of the T-Mobile firmware versions suck, focused far more on trying to get you to buy ringtones/songs/crappy web access than concentrating on being a phone. The one I have currently is significantly less obnoxious.
3) Its now considered a long obsolete model and close to impossible to find new... Yet you can not find a single current phone that comes close in terms of battery life and signal quality.
trust me, any phone which can withstand the stupidity of that phone number gets a ++ rating
But the post is an obviously Mho-Rhon-ic troll.
You can buy a small battery pack for iPhone and android devices. I can understand why some people think that lugging around a small battery pack around can bee a hassle. I have heard that the battery packs typically provide about three charges to the phone. Of course, after you drain the battery pack, you will need to recharge it.
One nice things about flip, bar and slider phones is that they have an actual numeric keypad the pushes down with my fingertips. Maybe I'm just used to the tactile feedback unlike the screen of a Palm Treo or android device. Just saying.
Old phones can be good or great (even the Motorola F3 is kind of old already) but the chargers problem is a plague, and you might want one to leave at one and one to carry with you. Having the wrong size of "samsung plug" or worse sony-ericsson is frustrating.
It's still an option but if you choose to go with a new, recent dumb phone, there are ones with USB - real, micro-USB. So you're set with just one USB charger at home, and on the move you'll easily find a micro-USB plug at friends's and family's, and you can always bring one with you (if only a USB to micro USB cable) if you really need it. No special USB either, you only have to care about 500mA current.
You will typically get internal SD card slot and 3.5mm jack output on these phones, though you can ignore those features. FM radio is useful (perhaps not in the US if I believe the comments on some stories)
Nokia 215 is such one phone, but it's a not-quite-dumb one with a mini browser baked in (okay..) and a facebook app (and twitter) baked in the firmware.. Crap! if that's what you want go for it maybe. But there are other, dumber phones. e.g. Wiko Lubi 2 and Lubi 3 (present in only some markets, including UK)
Well, have a quick look at what's available, brands vary by region but USB is becoming standard. Samsung seems to be an outlier.
May I recommend a Blackberry? On the surface anyway, they're more 'phone' than 'handheld computer with a phone app', are easier to text on with their keypad than a dumb phone, the battery life is good, music player, 'flashlight', Bluetooth (for transferring camera pictures to your computer and working with headsets), straight-up USB file transfers for music and files... the only thing I don't like about mine is the inability to turn off the touchscreen (I've taped over the surface with packing tape to get this effect, but that's not for the squeamish).
You're pretty dumb to have one.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thelightphone/the-light-phone
Seriously, slashdot TECH news. Dumb phones? get out of here with that backwards crap. Who even makes voice calls?
What is next, who makes the best black and white tube TV with only UHF pickups?
Perhaps a review on banging rocks together.
dumb phones. Get out of here grandpa!
The motorola Quantico or the kyocera dura XT are the dumbphones I've carried - I like riding my motorcycle year round - phones like those can take shock, water, being thrown against a wall and still work.
I've owned both and while I liked the Quantico better - US Cellular moved out of my region so I was forced to the dura XT on Sprint.
_ _ _ Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!
Thing is, I don't want to make or receive phone calls or text messages!
I hate them.
The only reasons I own a phone are because a smart phone is a small handheld computer that can surf the net, play games, play music, show movies, and do other useful tasks (alarm clock, exercise timer - even flashlight). And a smart phone can act as a modem for my laptop to connect to the internet.
So ... remove the smarts - the data, the computer-like features, the hotspot - and all you have left are the two things I don't want: phone calls and SMS.
I am anarch of all I survey.
Somewhat a smart phone but with wifi disabled, data disabled, 2g mode enabled, you can get from 7 to 12 days out of it.
Good reception too, it's definitely the new Nokia dumb phone.
My carrier offers dual SIM cards. Both ring at the same time, SMS messages go to both, etc. I'm now using a pair of preowned Iphone 4S, picked up cheap. One is in the charger cradle, the other with me. Swap them out when needed. Supplement with battery cases when needed.
My mom is unfortunately on my phone plan because she can't manage her own finances well enough to pay for a phone herself.
Last November she lost her closest-thing-to-a-dumb-phone-I-could-get-her. It would still do web stuff, but... in a very dumb way, like "smart" phones before the modern (iPhone/Android/etc) smart phone era did. I simply could not get her a phone that only make phone calls, but that was close enough for those purposes.
And then she lost it, and I had to replace it. I wanted the cheapest goddamn dumbest simplest most basic phone possible. All she wants or needs to do is make phone calls. She doesn't give a flying fuck about texting or internet or anything! (Or she didn't at the time, and I wish it had stayed that way). All. She. Needs. Is. A Phone. But to get her a "dumb" (not even, like before) phone would have actually cost me more than their cheapest generation-or-two-old smart phone, a Galaxy Mini S3. Now she's fucking addicted to it and sucking up all the data (that I barely even use) on my plan.
What the fucking fuck has happened where it is simply impossible to get just basic phone service without paying more for it!?!?
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Are there any dumbphones with GPS? That's really the only thing I *need* from a smartphone, it would be nice to get the battery life of a dumbphone with GPS and client side maps, doesn't need to have a fancy screen I just need to see where I am and how to get to somewhere else
Some have tower or wifi based location stuff for maps but thats not accurate enough
No GPS. No web. No chat. No texting. No apps. No operating system at all, to speak of.
All it can do is make phone calls and receive phone calls. That's it.
It's the ultimate dumb phone.
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
I have settled on the Nokia 208 as my daily dumb phone of choice, using a smartphone only to travel when having a mini computer with me is needed (PDFs of transit schedules, internet access, email, VoIP, etc.). I have used a smart phone for years but got sick of how much it distracted me when I had to get stuff done day to day.
The 208 works because:
Bar phone, no touch screen. Just dial!
Dual SIM
Uses Micro SIM, so can be swapped with most any low to midrange smartphone without futzing with adapters. This is the ONLY bar phone I have found that does this!!
Standard microUSB charger
FM radio (unlimited music streaming, yeah!)
Has MicroSD card slot
Plug into your computer, shows up as USB mass storage (works with EVERY OS!)
Can tether for internet access; tethering works with Linux!
20 days standby battery life (a little low by NOKIA standards)
Global ready
Supports 3G/WCDMA on SIM1 (important in the USA because AT&T is sunsetting their 2G GSM network!)
Coolest feature: set an alarm to wake you up, and then TURN THE PHONE OFF. That's right, just turn it off. The alarm will still go off to wake you up, but nobody can call you in the middle of the night, and you save battery!
Real working Bluetooth
Accepts MMS so that when your smartphone friends text you the message comes through
When I want to be REALLY minimalist, I use my Nokia 100. GSM only, no camera, no memory, nothing. Just talk and text. 35 DAYS standby time.
The LG 305 (Verizon towers) or 306 (AT&T towers) is the best dumb phone I could find. Wifi, Bluetooth, MP3 player, excellent battery life for $4.99 at Amazon and less than $7 a month to TracFone with Triple Minutes For Life (included).
Nokia 515 - 1 week of battery life, dual sim and if you can get used to series 40 OS you're golden.
They mentioned battery life, which implies wireless.
It plugs into the modem in the PHONE plug. It even works when the fibre optick line to town gets chopped killing all cell service. It does not bother me when I'm out of the house.
it's a pretty simple phone but it has a battery that has a 39 days standby time and 20 hours of talk. of course these numbers depend on if you are in a place with a few or lots of overlapping cell tower signals.
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My new smart phone tries to phone home to Facebook (which I don't use from my smart phone to conserve the battery), Instagram (which I also don't use), my cell carrier, Amazon, Samsung, and whole host of others. I'm tired of having to kill stuff, root my phone to disable it, and just generally not be able to uninstall the crap-tastic carrier force-fed apps. Now, thanks to something called Digital Turbine, carriers can now force your phone to download and install apps. Oh yea, and it eats into YOUR data cap when they do it. Some carriers will allow you to remove the apps but others don't. It'a all enough to make you want to go back to a flip phone......
Here is what is important in a phone for me.
The number one is to be able to hear the conversation. I work outside in a noisey eviroment, so audio quality is number one.
To be able to see the damn screen. I work out doors in bright sunlight. A "smart phone" screen is useless. An LCD or "paperwhite" type screen can be viewed in direct sunlight.
The last feature I need a phonebook/dialer. That's it. That's the perfect phone. I don't want texting. I don't want internet on my phone. I don't want a camera on my phone.
Instead of texting me, call me or leave a voice mail. Way faster any way. Internet? Camera? I have a 5" wifi tablet for that. I don't need it on my phone.
I have a Kyocera Jax S1360. It works great, and the battery lasts more than a week per charge.
I truly cannot understand why some people have *any* problems with modern smartphone battery life.
Owner of a OnePlus here - using it mostly for an hour per day browse/news with 3G turned on all the time. I have stopped all applications that might suck the battery out and installed adblock plus (for the operating system, also have the addon in Firefox). Also gmail, pocket (offline reading), a music app and hangouts apart from phone calls and messages.
I can literally charge it once per *four* days with this type of usage. Do charge it once per three, since it's better for the battery to stay between 30% and 80%.
So if the OP downloads his podcasts on the phone, without any smart functions the same model could easily break the 6-7 days limit with up to one hour of phone calls per day.
Guess that it is a no brainer that an hour of Kingdom Rush will deplete the battery to half from full, because of the very hungry and powerful GPU combined with the 5.5" screen.
I take my very basic HUWAEI dumb phone with me on any journey just for the battery life and ease of sending text messages. The menu options include very useful notes, calendar, and alarm. It has also web access and camera but I have little use for them.
I'm rather happy with the little Samsung S150G "Candy Bar" phone that I picked up at a dollar store; it was on sale for 50% off, so it only cost me $5.
The only down side to it is: I have to buy prepaid Tracfone service cards (which have either 60, 120, 200, or 400/450 minutes and 90 extra days of service, or a 1 Year (of extra service) and I think it was 700 minutes), of which the smallest minutes-denomination is available here at the low price of $19.95. (I think the 1 Year cards are about a hundred dollars. I usually get the 120-minute cards, though; they cost about $40, if I recall correctly.) But on the other hand, my phone comes with automatically-doubled minutes for life, so there's that.
It's also not a flip-open phone, so the screen gets smudged and smeared every time I make a call — but it's easy enough to clean it off.
As far as battery life goes: I have its display set to the dimmest setting (and only rarely increase the brightness), and I have the display set to turn off after five seconds; sound profile is almost always set to 'Silent' with no vibration.
I leave my phone on all the time (though I don't often use it), and it lasts for about a week — if not a day or two longer — before I have to charge it. It also only takes about two or three hours to charge.
I've noticed an odd quirk with it, though: if you cross from one Time Zone to another, you have to turn your phone off for a while (maybe as long as an hour or two, but I've never timed it) and turn it back on — otherwise, upon crossing into the new Time Zone area, the phone will constantly report "No Service", even if you ordinarily would have service.
The phone has Internet access, but it's slow, and also terrible because the screen is (for websites, at least) tiny — plus, it costs minutes to access the Internet; I personally view it as a waste of minutes, but perhaps others might be handy in an emergency or something.
It doesn't come with a data cable, unfortunately, but the phone has a MiniUSB or MicroUSB port in the top (usually for the charger(s), or the earbud that I never use); I've borrowed a friend's Kindle Fire HD's USB cable and it fit perfectly.
I think it's a good phone, though. I can call people when I need to, and — if I really need to — I can text people (for a cost of 0.30 minutes per text (or, in English, 18 seconds — but the phone instead shows the silly fraction)). I rarely have problems with service anywhere — the only times I have really had problems with service was when I was crossing Time Zones, and also inside a friend's house that is apparently a Faraday cage for cellular phones (and, in their words, said house is "made of middle fingers" — it's a pretty terrible house).
You just need one of these.
http://www.oldphoneworks.com/rotatone-pulse-to-tone-converter.html
And your rotary phone will allow you to "press 1" or any other number that you like :)
I'd rather just use a blue box.
No camera, no Internet, excellent sound quality, 8 years later and the battery still holds its charge after 10-14 days. Indestructible.
I have two dumb phones that I rarely use, mainly meant for emergencies or travel once or twice a year. One is an old Nokia phone with a old T-Mobile prepay plan. When I got the phone I bought minutes for 100 bucks and whatever minutes are left roll over if I buy new minutes before they expire. I string that plan along for years now and it costs me 10 bucks a year. Sadly, T-Mobile no longer offers this plan (boooo!) and solely for that reason I went with an LG 530G from TracFone. They offer a similar plan that T-Mobile has, but it is not as low cost. The LG phone also has a web browser, but I never used it because it eats minutes like there is no tomorrow. It is not entirely dumb, but all I care about is voice service. I prefer a flip open phone, but they tend to be more 'expensive', I think for either phone I paid 20$ with promos and coupons. That is about as much as I am willing to spend on a mobile phone. The Nokia phone has FM radio in it, but I never used it. I also see no need for FM, but others might. If you are looking for bargain bin pricing without signing a contract and are interested mainly in voice service then the LG 530G from TracFone isn't a bad choice. It has a full keyboard and that is surprisingly easy to use despite the microscopicly small keys. There are also plans out there, that charge a flat fee for each day you use it. If you use the phone a lot only during a few weeks out of a year then that might be the cheaper option. I'd get a smartphone if it wasn't for the ridiculously expensive data plans. I wouldn't even mind to drop 200$ for the phone if the monthly access fees would be around 20-30 $ for unlimited service on everything. Still, I'd see it more as a toy that I splurge on than a necessity. There really isn't anything important enough I'd need to get to online that cannot wait until I am back at home. Besides that, who the heck wants to surf the web on a tiny screen anyway?
An actual typable keyboard like a Blackberry.
2 independently hot-swappable batteries. (I want to have spare batteries sitting at home on a charger)
External charging connection
Wifi hotspot.
Physical power switch for the phone radio.
GPS. with a physical switch.
Physical switch for the wifi radio. 3 positions: (Hotspot, Off, Connect via wifi)
All the smartphone crap can live in my tablet..