Yes, what you write about Muslims is a fact. What i have problems with, is writing "bad" things about Christians...
About Constantine: we know about this story from (Roman) Lactantius, a close advisor of Constantine, who wrote (as Constanine told him, and know about him writing it) that this vision of the Cross with the phrase "with this you win" (in Greek) was during Constantine's sleep (before the battle, and after he prayed to the "Sun God", since until then he was "Heliolatris") - also from (Greek) Eusebius of Caesarea (the first Church's historic) who was a bishop and know Constantine personaly: in his major work he wrote about Constanine's vision without mentioning if it was during his sleep or not (but based to the usual terminology we can assume it was during sleep) - in one work attributed to him, BUT IT IS *ALMOST* CERTAIN IT IS NOT ACTUALLY HIS, called "Life of Constantine", it is mentioned that this vision was while Constantine was awake. For us Greeks, Constantine the Great is very important for some non-religious reasons also: with Greek origins from both parents (his father -Constantius Chlorus- become Caesar), he is the one that as Caesar of the East Roman empire -i.e., the Greek in reality- founded Constantinople and what is known as Byzantine empire. His mother Helen is also an important person for us Greek Orthodox Christians. I just write all that to note that i may know few things - don't take it as an attack because "a 'barbarian' like you made fun of us great Greeks". About BBC: don't let me start... let just say that most Slashdoters will feel very comfortable there, plus any anti-Catholic/Orthodox will find so many (stupid) stories to make fun of us!
I agree Saul/Paul wasn't "spooked into religion" by a meteorite. I just wanted to hear his reasons for thinking that's the case.
Maybe it was wrong from me to judge him by making such assumptions about him without realy knowing him (but changes are i am right, because... Slashdot!). I just wanted to inform you about the "non-Slashdot" version of the story... i understand now that you did not needed my help, since you already know it.
Re: the road to Damascus, it's worth noting that Saul/Paul was already highly "religious" prior to that experience.
Hmmm... i just searched this "road to Damascus" ("Protestantic") phrase that i didn't know (we Orthodox-Greeks use some other terms for this type of conversions) - it may worth repeating (even if i feel that it is NOT a "dogma" you follow) my criticism to the "all religions are the same" mantra of the "religious Atheists"... Saul was a Jew before become Paul the Christian, but Constantine was a Pagan before become Great Constantine the Christian... and a was a "religious Atheist" before become Christian!
For your interesting idea, and from my VERY limited knowledge about glass: bad) you needs a lot of energy to melt it - good) you don't need so much purity for "extra thick construction quality" (not to be confused with usual/real) glass; and if "entire dunes made of glass" exist then things are even better (not for the energy to melt it part, just for the quality of the material part). Anyway, this comment should be archived with the "so stupidly good idea that i had to reply" label!
Just to clarify: i will never accuse a patriot for his patriotism (i am a Greek that does not "live in the stars") - it is just that, since this was about a commercial type of rocket launching system/business, my comments were in a different "spirit" than the "YOU/US against THEM" that is usual for this kind of discussions, so i tried to stay away from that.
I understand that you know enough about the issue, so... i hope we have an understanding!
Could the drilling be done in a way that instead of generating rubble, whole rocks are cut out cleanly, which could then be used for additional constructions?
Since i mentioned that it is "very well known in Special Forces": YES.
While one of the easiest and better ways is this "dig a hole, crawl in", what you mentioned is used for example, in above ground well builded covered shelter in areas without rocks above ground but plenty below it (don't know the word in English for this type of ground - sorry), or "igloos" in my arctic climate survival training.
Of course in SP YOU are the drilling machine... but, anyway, were are talking about NASA, so...!
Wait, scratch that. The majority of the dwellings will need to be underground to avoid the radiation. Instead of a 3D printer, take a tunnel boring machine.
Excellent idea, very well known in Special Forces for example, but not what NASA wants for its "3-D Printed Habitat Challenge".
words have meaning, meaning is important. you even spout that proudly on your own sig.
I am really glad that you read my sig (Antisthenes: "Wisdom begins by examining the words/names.") - it is because of my sig that i wrote to you: "O.K, you are right, this "pirate" term is stupid - YOU ARE A THIEF".
Full Definition of THEFT
1a : the act of stealing; specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it
You are in the right path for wisdom - glory to Antisthenes!
so since i'm not depriving anyone of anything, not even 'loss of rightful revenue" because there never was any to begin with, what i do can harldy be theft, no matter how much you want to put it in bold letters and... well, twist the meaning of words to misrepresent it. catch the irony, troll.
In the right path, but far away from wisdom... yet!
Since in my sig i also write "excuse my English, i am (slightly...) better with my Greek!", can you help me find the right word (not phrase) for a person who uses the product of someone else's work without the producer's permission?
Saul, who became Paul, also was spooked into religion by a meteorite
How do you figure?
He wrote something bad about Muslims so he had to write something bad about Christians also, because you know... it's Slashdot, so "all religions are the same"...
Anyway, he probably is refering to Paul's (a.k.a. Saul) sudden blindness -for few days-, before he became a Christian, but the story is: while persecuting Christians, Jesus appeared to him making Paul blind, BUT also telling him "Saul, Saul, why you persecute me?"... and the great story continues, but if you are interested you should read it in the Acts of Apostloles and his own Epistles, both found in the New Testament - by the way, since New Testament is originally writen in Greek, i can ensure you that Paul was not "blinded by a meteorite", nor was Great Constantine (the other mentioned by the parent comment as "meteorite blinded") who thanks to a vision before a battle with the Cross and the Greek phrase "with this you win" ("En Touto Nika") became a Christian.
As you can understand from my comments, i dislike piracy. And because i agree with you that switching to free software is an option, with many benefits (even if i don't dislike proprietary software), i dislike piracy even more.
and i dislike the bullshit in equating use of software without a license to piracy. so what? do you have something interesting to say about the topic or not?
I made various comments already (some modded as "interesting" from what i see now) - "do YOU have something interesting to say about the topic or not?"
i don't.
So: "YOU don't have something interesting to say about the topic"!
but that's just because i don't give a crap about windows and its licenses.
Hmmm... it's because you are just not interesting in this discussion or because you are a pirate?
i have non-genuine w7 to run games, i would't personally use it for anything else, nor do i want it, so why should i pay any license? and no doubt i will have a non-genuine w-whatever as soon as games ask for it. that's a deal between game developers and microsoft, they should sort that out themselves or else let me choose. i don't think the game developer has any issue with my windows being non-genuine, so why should i?
You just answered my previous question: YOU ARE A PIRATE...
you calling me a pirate because of this only makes you look funny. you know, 'pirates', those guys used to barbecue your guts after pulling them out of you after raping you. you ip zealots really should get a grip already.
O.K, you are right, this "pirate" term is stupid - YOU ARE A THIEF.
With my comment or any of your political issues you may have with Russians and/or GOP? Because i really try not to get in to that.
1) you mentioned that russian parts are used in western rockets. There are exactly TWO rockets that have any major Russian parts. That is OSC and ULA's Atlas. Delta actually has some Russian made parts, or did. And nothing else in Europe uses Russian made, except for your providing a launch site for them and then marketing them.
I just mentioned (not in the comment you reply to but to a previous) "Also keep in mind that some Western rockets use Russian engines and other technology..." - but thanks for the details, i was lazy to write them!
2) you are right that we cooperate. However, for the last 10-15 years, America has been cut out of the competition because Boeing, L-Mart and then ULA were worthless. Now, along comes SpaceX and they are destroying EVERYBODY out there. By next year, there is a real good chance that ArianeSpace and all of the various Russian launch systems will be launching only their gov. systems and nothing more.
Basically, SpaceX will own 100% of commercial space by the start of 2016. The reason is that not only will FH be live, but so will F9R. In addition, they are SpaceX is currently launching at a rate of about 1 every 3 weeks. In 2016, they will bring that down to 1 every 2 weeks or less.
I am not Russian (or Anti-American) - actually i wrote: "note: i am Greek/European - we are "competitors" AND "partners" also!" for anyone to note my comment's "spirit", which is far away from yours (i.e., "YOU" against "THEM" - from what i understand from this and some other comment you made in this discussion).
This is not about YOU vs. US. In fact, I have said here and elsewhere, that I want to see Europe spend some money on building up a CHEAP launch system. SpaceX has done that, and is doing more. BUT, if we are going to the moon and mars, then Europe needs to have a CHEAP and RELIABLE system.
I think you have issues with Russians specificaly, not us Europeans generaly. PLEASE NOTE: I don't blame you, i just note that this is not my "spirit" for those comments.
So, as what i wrote: "The International Launch Services who operates those Proton rockets is a joint venture between a primary private Russian and an American (i think Lockheed Martin) partner"...
ILS has NOTHING to do with the ISS.
But i did not wrote anything about the International Space Station...
10% failure rate is HORRIBLE.
For UNMANNED COMMERSIAL LAUNCHES?
How did you get modded up?
That is something i wonder many times when i read other's comments - anyway, this time it may happened because i answered to YOUR BAD COMMENT!
Well Sir, as someone preaching against piracy, i preach this "use Linux" as a way to save our souls (not our minds!), so this great challenge of yours is something i may use (with appropriate credits) the next time i will write something good about Microsoft.
Except that unauthorized software copying costs the source company nothing - unlike the Mercedes factory that faces considerable per-unit costs. Meanwhile in the *specific case* of OS, office, and a few other genres of software, vendor lock-in is achieved largely via network effects. Get enough people using illegitimate software on their personal PCs, and companies will tend to use the same thing. And *they* run the risk of license audits, so will tend to buy legal software. If most individuals were acclimated to using Libre Office, do you really think companies would still be inclined to pay the MS Office tax and have to keep track of licenses, etc.?
For non-infrastructure software of course the argument evaporates - Valve gets no benefit from people pirating Half Life.
Even if i agree with anything you write (i have many objections), there is something called "ethos/ethics" (a Greek word -yes, a fucking Greek lecturing about fucking Greek!- that means -among other things- the personality we create for ourselves by repeating some behaviour.)
As you can understand from my comments, i dislike piracy. And because i agree with you that switching to free software is an option, with many benefits (even if i don't dislike proprietary software), i dislike piracy even more.
I am glad that you don't have much sympathy for pirates either: and you already gave the solution to yourself (in bold by me, not that you need my help!) - others (even Slashdoters - althrough sometimes i am afraid that some of them don't like people like us...) may help you choose an appropriate distro.
The problem with that is the answer changes, depending on both who you ask and what day of the week it is:-)
I know my dear fellow Slashdoter, that's why i avoided to give a specific answer - i already have enough problems defending Microsoft (!), i don't need any hate for prefering Deb... ooops!
The differece of course being that nobody has ever been directly hurt by software piracy - at worst someone has been deprived of potential profits.
And of course i can use that "of course nobady has ever been directly hurt by stealing [insert product] - at worst someone has been deprived of potential profits. And even that assumes that the infringer would have otherwise resorted to buying the software, which is rarely the case." reasoning for justification if i "help myself" with few things i want/need, provided i don't use violent.
There's tons of extant hardware from the late Core 2 era which would still be perfectly serviceable were they not loaded with XP (obsolete) or Vista (slow and obsolete). Microsoft charges so much for standalone licenses that you might as well buy a new PC these days.
I don't have much sympathy for pirates either, but this also means millions of potential PCs for elderly/low income/third world families will now be just that much e-waste.
And yes, I know Linux is still free, but I've yet to find a distro that the average user can accomplish more with than browsing web sites.
I am glad that you don't have much sympathy for pirates either: and you already gave the solution to yourself (in bold by me, not that you need my help!) - others (even Slashdoters - althrough sometimes i am afraid that some of them don't like people like us...) may help you choose an appropriate distro.
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Yes, what you write about Muslims is a fact. What i have problems with, is writing "bad" things about Christians...
About Constantine: we know about this story from (Roman) Lactantius, a close advisor of Constantine, who wrote (as Constanine told him, and know about him writing it) that this vision of the Cross with the phrase "with this you win" (in Greek) was during Constantine's sleep (before the battle, and after he prayed to the "Sun God", since until then he was "Heliolatris") - also from (Greek) Eusebius of Caesarea (the first Church's historic) who was a bishop and know Constantine personaly: in his major work he wrote about Constanine's vision without mentioning if it was during his sleep or not (but based to the usual terminology we can assume it was during sleep) - in one work attributed to him, BUT IT IS *ALMOST* CERTAIN IT IS NOT ACTUALLY HIS, called "Life of Constantine", it is mentioned that this vision was while Constantine was awake. For us Greeks, Constantine the Great is very important for some non-religious reasons also: with Greek origins from both parents (his father -Constantius Chlorus- become Caesar), he is the one that as Caesar of the East Roman empire -i.e., the Greek in reality- founded Constantinople and what is known as Byzantine empire. His mother Helen is also an important person for us Greek Orthodox Christians. I just write all that to note that i may know few things - don't take it as an attack because "a 'barbarian' like you made fun of us great Greeks". About BBC: don't let me start... let just say that most Slashdoters will feel very comfortable there, plus any anti-Catholic/Orthodox will find so many (stupid) stories to make fun of us!
And this "bonus round" you mention is very important for a mission like that.
VERY INTERESTING and highly on-topic - thanks!
I agree Saul/Paul wasn't "spooked into religion" by a meteorite. I just wanted to hear his reasons for thinking that's the case.
Maybe it was wrong from me to judge him by making such assumptions about him without realy knowing him (but changes are i am right, because... Slashdot!). I just wanted to inform you about the "non-Slashdot" version of the story... i understand now that you did not needed my help, since you already know it.
Re: the road to Damascus, it's worth noting that Saul/Paul was already highly "religious" prior to that experience.
Hmmm... i just searched this "road to Damascus" ("Protestantic") phrase that i didn't know (we Orthodox-Greeks use some other terms for this type of conversions) - it may worth repeating (even if i feel that it is NOT a "dogma" you follow) my criticism to the "all religions are the same" mantra of the "religious Atheists"... Saul was a Jew before become Paul the Christian, but Constantine was a Pagan before become Great Constantine the Christian... and a was a "religious Atheist" before become Christian!
For your interesting idea, and from my VERY limited knowledge about glass: bad) you needs a lot of energy to melt it - good) you don't need so much purity for "extra thick construction quality" (not to be confused with usual/real) glass; and if "entire dunes made of glass" exist then things are even better (not for the energy to melt it part, just for the quality of the material part). Anyway, this comment should be archived with the "so stupidly good idea that i had to reply" label!
I understand that you know enough about the issue, so... i hope we have an understanding!
Part of "being a man" is not being a whiny bitch.
Just sayin'.
As a proudly sexist* man, i approve your message.
* "sexism": see "nature".
Could the drilling be done in a way that instead of generating rubble, whole rocks are cut out cleanly, which could then be used for additional constructions?
Since i mentioned that it is "very well known in Special Forces": YES.
While one of the easiest and better ways is this "dig a hole, crawl in", what you mentioned is used for example, in above ground well builded covered shelter in areas without rocks above ground but plenty below it (don't know the word in English for this type of ground - sorry), or "igloos" in my arctic climate survival training.
Of course in SP YOU are the drilling machine... but, anyway, were are talking about NASA, so...!
Wait, scratch that. The majority of the dwellings will need to be underground to avoid the radiation. Instead of a 3D printer, take a tunnel boring machine.
Excellent idea, very well known in Special Forces for example, but not what NASA wants for its "3-D Printed Habitat Challenge".
The printer will have to do its thing up there. Just add water.
An example of 3D Concrete Printing.
words have meaning, meaning is important. you even spout that proudly on your own sig.
I am really glad that you read my sig (Antisthenes: "Wisdom begins by examining the words/names.") - it is because of my sig that i wrote to you: "O.K, you are right, this "pirate" term is stupid - YOU ARE A THIEF".
http://www.merriam-webster.com...
Full Definition of THEFT 1a : the act of stealing; specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it
You are in the right path for wisdom - glory to Antisthenes!
so since i'm not depriving anyone of anything, not even 'loss of rightful revenue" because there never was any to begin with, what i do can harldy be theft, no matter how much you want to put it in bold letters and ... well, twist the meaning of words to misrepresent it. catch the irony, troll.
In the right path, but far away from wisdom... yet!
Since in my sig i also write "excuse my English, i am (slightly...) better with my Greek!", can you help me find the right word (not phrase) for a person who uses the product of someone else's work without the producer's permission?
Keep Calm - Keep Walking...
How do you figure?
He wrote something bad about Muslims so he had to write something bad about Christians also, because you know... it's Slashdot, so "all religions are the same"...
Anyway, he probably is refering to Paul's (a.k.a. Saul) sudden blindness -for few days-, before he became a Christian, but the story is: while persecuting Christians, Jesus appeared to him making Paul blind, BUT also telling him "Saul, Saul, why you persecute me?"... and the great story continues, but if you are interested you should read it in the Acts of Apostloles and his own Epistles, both found in the New Testament - by the way, since New Testament is originally writen in Greek, i can ensure you that Paul was not "blinded by a meteorite", nor was Great Constantine (the other mentioned by the parent comment as "meteorite blinded") who thanks to a vision before a battle with the Cross and the Greek phrase "with this you win" ("En Touto Nika") became a Christian.
DISCLAIMER: I am a Greek (Orthodox) Christian.
As you can understand from my comments, i dislike piracy. And because i agree with you that switching to free software is an option, with many benefits (even if i don't dislike proprietary software), i dislike piracy even more.
and i dislike the bullshit in equating use of software without a license to piracy. so what? do you have something interesting to say about the topic or not?
I made various comments already (some modded as "interesting" from what i see now) - "do YOU have something interesting to say about the topic or not?"
i don't.
So: "YOU don't have something interesting to say about the topic"!
but that's just because i don't give a crap about windows and its licenses.
Hmmm... it's because you are just not interesting in this discussion or because you are a pirate?
i have non-genuine w7 to run games, i would't personally use it for anything else, nor do i want it, so why should i pay any license? and no doubt i will have a non-genuine w-whatever as soon as games ask for it. that's a deal between game developers and microsoft, they should sort that out themselves or else let me choose. i don't think the game developer has any issue with my windows being non-genuine, so why should i?
You just answered my previous question: YOU ARE A PIRATE...
you calling me a pirate because of this only makes you look funny. you know, 'pirates', those guys used to barbecue your guts after pulling them out of you after raping you. you ip zealots really should get a grip already.
O.K, you are right, this "pirate" term is stupid - YOU ARE A THIEF.
But does it run Linux?
Not "funny" dude... many people run Linux on Windows running on MacBooks!
... for certain non-zero values of "no one"
... used as an exaggeration by every one!
So many things wrong here.
With my comment or any of your political issues you may have with Russians and/or GOP? Because i really try not to get in to that.
1) you mentioned that russian parts are used in western rockets. There are exactly TWO rockets that have any major Russian parts. That is OSC and ULA's Atlas. Delta actually has some Russian made parts, or did. And nothing else in Europe uses Russian made, except for your providing a launch site for them and then marketing them.
I just mentioned (not in the comment you reply to but to a previous) "Also keep in mind that some Western rockets use Russian engines and other technology..." - but thanks for the details, i was lazy to write them!
2) you are right that we cooperate. However, for the last 10-15 years, America has been cut out of the competition because Boeing, L-Mart and then ULA were worthless. Now, along comes SpaceX and they are destroying EVERYBODY out there. By next year, there is a real good chance that ArianeSpace and all of the various Russian launch systems will be launching only their gov. systems and nothing more. Basically, SpaceX will own 100% of commercial space by the start of 2016. The reason is that not only will FH be live, but so will F9R. In addition, they are SpaceX is currently launching at a rate of about 1 every 3 weeks. In 2016, they will bring that down to 1 every 2 weeks or less.
I am not Russian (or Anti-American) - actually i wrote: "note: i am Greek/European - we are "competitors" AND "partners" also!" for anyone to note my comment's "spirit", which is far away from yours (i.e., "YOU" against "THEM" - from what i understand from this and some other comment you made in this discussion).
This is not about YOU vs. US. In fact, I have said here and elsewhere, that I want to see Europe spend some money on building up a CHEAP launch system. SpaceX has done that, and is doing more. BUT, if we are going to the moon and mars, then Europe needs to have a CHEAP and RELIABLE system.
I think you have issues with Russians specificaly, not us Europeans generaly. PLEASE NOTE: I don't blame you, i just note that this is not my "spirit" for those comments.
Nope. ILS is nothing but a marketing arm for using proton vehicles.
So, as what i wrote: "The International Launch Services who operates those Proton rockets is a joint venture between a primary private Russian and an American (i think Lockheed Martin) partner"...
ILS has NOTHING to do with the ISS.
But i did not wrote anything about the International Space Station...
10% failure rate is HORRIBLE.
For UNMANNED COMMERSIAL LAUNCHES?
How did you get modded up?
That is something i wonder many times when i read other's comments - anyway, this time it may happened because i answered to YOUR BAD COMMENT!
Well Sir, as someone preaching against piracy, i preach this "use Linux" as a way to save our souls (not our minds!), so this great challenge of yours is something i may use (with appropriate credits) the next time i will write something good about Microsoft.
No. If you "help yourself" to my car, I am directly hurt because I cannot get to my job, and I have to spend a lot of money to get a new car.
But if i "help myself" to some software, its developers would not have cars and jobs... so i guess problem solved!?
I don't pirate music and movies, but I agree with Immerman about the exaggeration of the results of others doing so.
So... you have ethics.
Except that unauthorized software copying costs the source company nothing - unlike the Mercedes factory that faces considerable per-unit costs. Meanwhile in the *specific case* of OS, office, and a few other genres of software, vendor lock-in is achieved largely via network effects. Get enough people using illegitimate software on their personal PCs, and companies will tend to use the same thing. And *they* run the risk of license audits, so will tend to buy legal software. If most individuals were acclimated to using Libre Office, do you really think companies would still be inclined to pay the MS Office tax and have to keep track of licenses, etc.?
For non-infrastructure software of course the argument evaporates - Valve gets no benefit from people pirating Half Life.
Even if i agree with anything you write (i have many objections), there is something called "ethos/ethics" (a Greek word -yes, a fucking Greek lecturing about fucking Greek!- that means -among other things- the personality we create for ourselves by repeating some behaviour.)
As you can understand from my comments, i dislike piracy. And because i agree with you that switching to free software is an option, with many benefits (even if i don't dislike proprietary software), i dislike piracy even more.
I am glad that you don't have much sympathy for pirates either: and you already gave the solution to yourself (in bold by me, not that you need my help!) - others (even Slashdoters - althrough sometimes i am afraid that some of them don't like people like us...) may help you choose an appropriate distro.
The problem with that is the answer changes, depending on both who you ask and what day of the week it is :-)
I know my dear fellow Slashdoter, that's why i avoided to give a specific answer - i already have enough problems defending Microsoft (!), i don't need any hate for prefering Deb... ooops!
O.K., even that...
The differece of course being that nobody has ever been directly hurt by software piracy - at worst someone has been deprived of potential profits.
And of course i can use that "of course nobady has ever been directly hurt by stealing [insert product] - at worst someone has been deprived of potential profits. And even that assumes that the infringer would have otherwise resorted to buying the software, which is rarely the case." reasoning for justification if i "help myself" with few things i want/need, provided i don't use violent.
There's tons of extant hardware from the late Core 2 era which would still be perfectly serviceable were they not loaded with XP (obsolete) or Vista (slow and obsolete). Microsoft charges so much for standalone licenses that you might as well buy a new PC these days.
I don't have much sympathy for pirates either, but this also means millions of potential PCs for elderly/low income/third world families will now be just that much e-waste.
And yes, I know Linux is still free, but I've yet to find a distro that the average user can accomplish more with than browsing web sites.
I am glad that you don't have much sympathy for pirates either: and you already gave the solution to yourself (in bold by me, not that you need my help!) - others (even Slashdoters - althrough sometimes i am afraid that some of them don't like people like us...) may help you choose an appropriate distro.