No worries about Getting modded down. I have excellent Karma now, I had excellent Karma in the past, and in between I've had BAD Karma. Easy come easier go. The time it took me to go from Excellent to bad was about two days (experiment), to get back to Excellent took about a month.
Which only proves one thing, it is easier to lose Good Karma Points than it is to get it back.
The thing that I change wasn't my view, it was simply how I presented my view.
The/. summary presents Microsoft as a "loser" that "steals" from those making money, and i feel a strange urge to make an analogy with social leeches and hard-working people, but 2 things stop me: 1) it's a bad analogy, because Microsoft contributes something (its patents - so others can use them and make money) 2) my "karma" is already bad, one day after signing up...
What is the advantage of having good "karma" instead of bad "karma"?
Well, (at least) one advantage of having good (/.) "karma" is that your comments start with more than "Score:0" (my current comments start with the same score as of any "Anonymous") - at least one DISadvantage of having good (/.) "karma" is that you become a libtard... oh, i fucked up my (/.) "karma" again!
My account is just 2 days old and i already managed to have a "terrible" (/.) "karma" (mostly because yestardays discussion about Microsoft's patents, with me defending Microsoft... and patents!) - hmmm, i must suppress my urge to re-define a "patent troll" as just an entity that buys its research and development from other entity(ies).
The choice isn't pay a high wage or pay a low wage. The choice is grow strawberries that you can sell at a price people will pay, or don't grow strawberries.
In Greece we grow strawberries, with most of the production exported to northern Europe. Northern Europe eats strawberries because to grow strawberries at a price people will pay you need low wages (or robots!) - despite Greece's huge (25%) unemployment, no Greek is working in the fields as a strawberries picker (that's the hard labour), so we must employ (paying -illegaly- low wages) all those illegal immigrants (they are illegal, and it's important to note that because it's important for the point i try to make - AND because they are illegal...) invading Greece/Europe seeking higher wages than those they earn in their places of origin (but are satisfied with lower wages than those legal in Greece/Europe - so, by both being illegal immigrants and illegal worker, they steal the ability of legal workers, some of them legal immigrants by the way, to buy strawberries).
I don't try to blame only the illegal immigrants (our Greek producers that illegaly employ them are also to blame), just to claim that this problem is much more complicated than just "sell at a price people will pay, or don't grow strawberries", and the choises you present must include other factors - some of them quite embarrassing for the usual left-wing person that wants both "open borders" and "wage equality" (those problematic situations -together with the cultural problems Muslim, legal or illegal, immigrants create- contributes to the nationalist rise in Europe).
The rise in nationalism is more to do with sloppy, lazy logic like yours than any inherent qualities of specific immigrants. It's easier to point the finger of blame at conspicuous immigrants than it is to admit you might be part of the problem. I don't want to Godwin, so I won't draw any comparisons, regardless of how chillingly accurate they are.
Well, you don't want to Godwin... but you already compare me to a NaZi!!!
But don't fell so bad, because at least it is in a discussion that has in its title the word "immigrants", and i understand that for many people the only discussion about immigrants must be how to forbid us "NaZi's" discussing about immigrants! Unfortunately for you my dear fellow slashdoter, we "NaZi's" still discuss the immigration issue (despite all the "anti-racism/discrimination" gag laws), we just do it mainly in forums where its users can at least correct any lazy logic we may have without screaming "racist, racist, racist... NaZi, NaZi, NaZi". You should stop that - you don't help anyone: not yourself, not immigrants, and not us "NaZi".
The choice isn't pay a high wage or pay a low wage.
The choice is grow strawberries that you can sell at a price people will pay, or don't grow strawberries.
In Greece we grow strawberries, with most of the production exported to northern Europe. Northern Europe eats strawberries because to grow strawberries at a price people will pay you need low wages (or robots!) - despite Greece's huge (25%) unemployment, no Greek is working in the fields as a strawberries picker (that's the hard labour), so we must employ (paying -illegaly- low wages) all those illegal immigrants (they are illegal, and it's important to note that because it's important for the point i try to make - AND because they are illegal...) invading Greece/Europe seeking higher wages than those they earn in their places of origin (but are satisfied with lower wages than those legal in Greece/Europe - so, by both being illegal immigrants and illegal worker, they steal the ability of legal workers, some of them legal immigrants by the way, to buy strawberries).
I don't try to blame only the illegal immigrants (our Greek producers that illegaly employ them are also to blame), just to claim that this problem is much more complicated than just "sell at a price people will pay, or don't grow strawberries", and the choises you present must include other factors - some of them quite embarrassing for the usual left-wing person that wants both "open borders" and "wage equality" (those problematic situations -together with the cultural problems Muslim, legal or illegal, immigrants create- contributes to the nationalist rise in Europe).
Enlightenment is very much dependent on the amount of wealth and education available to the population
While true, let's not forget that Saudi Arabia is swimming in money, but is one of the most retrograde regimes in the world, with its educational system ceded to the Wahabi Muslim clerics in exchange for their support in Gulf 1. Women can't drive, and are routinely killed for "honor" crimes (imagined and/or real), imprisoned for being raped, forced to have their rapist's child, etc. etc.
So wealth does not convey enlightenment, nor does education unless the education itself is enlightened. Which is a bit of a catch-22 that christian Europe was in some ways lucky to achieve at all.
If you're waiting for an Islamic enlightenment, you're going to wait a long time. People who believe they already possess all the answers are impossible to enlighten.
Yes, Islamists are racially impure and incapable of being enlightened. That is why over a quarter of the world population are terrorists and backwards people with their thumbs up their asses. They should be more racially pure like our forward thinking societies that have no concept of misogyny, exploitation, and oppression. Sure, sometimes we have to shoot and gas the odd rebel in our society, but that is because they are racially impure. Why can't these lower people think and be more flawless like us?
Sir, where -in the (anonymous') comment you reply to- a racial remark was made, for you to start the (usual) "i am a (probably left-wing) Westerner that will defend Muslims (for Allah knows why!) by describing as a racist someone opposing Islam on the basis of culture, like Muslims/Islam was some kind of a race..."?
which are approximately 1,000 times smaller than our galaxy
Does this mean 1/1000th the size of our galaxy? "Times smaller", "times less" and their ilk are terrible phrases.
I understand it as "1/1000th the size of our galaxy", but without absolute confidence and not before spending some "brain cycles", so i agree with you that are terrible phrases.
"The Bible" consist of two books: the "Old Testament" (i.e., the one that is the basis of the Jewish AND Muslim religions) and the "New Testament" (i.e., the Christian book, which is about Christ and his teachings, killed by the Jews because of the NEW teachings) - so, the "New Testament" is called "new" for a reason... because it updates (the Greek word -i am a Greek by the way- is "Kaine", which also means "updated") the "old".
As a Greek (and Christian), i read the New Testament in the original text (i.e., in Greek, since it was the most common and popular language at that time - but even the most popular version of the Old Testament, used for the most popular translations in other languages, is a Greek translation from the original Jewish called "Greek Old Testament / Septuagint"), and i can assure you that Christ (and His Apostoles) specifically update and elevate the role of women, contrary to what you believe (and contrary to the Muslim religion).
An Italian (i am a Greek - "una fatsa, una ratsa"!) plans to live a year in Greenland... a moment before departure "mamma" starts "dying"... plans change...
The competition didn't bother because the law says that you have to pay royalties even if you came up with the idea independently.
The competition didn't bother because they did NOT came up with the idea independently OR the law says that you have to pay royalties even if you came up with the idea independently (which is the way the law deals with tangible property actually: "first come, first served").
Be nice. He may just not know anything about software patents and is pretending he does.
Thanks dude - actually i don't know everything about software patents (which are a -problematic- specialization of patents), but i know few things, e.g., they are RARE.
If you claim you are, you are either lying or not a very creative one.
I am a software developer - creative enough (and obviously not modest enough...) to understand that software patents may be problematic, but also RARE cases.
Microsoft contributes something (its patents - so others can use them and make money)
Scenario A: Google back when they initially developed Android ran into a design roadblock. They saw no way to solve the particular problem until one of the developers read a MS patent that solved their issue. MS is therefore paid royalties on their patent.
Scenario B: Google developed Android without ever having heard of any MS patents. Once Android became popular MS lawyers studied their patents trying to stretch them enough to find infringement. They bully the Android phone makers into paying billions. In this scenario Android would have been exactly the same product without the MS patents and MS is being paid billions for nothing.
Well, very good (and "logically binary") scenarios - but one problem: in your "B" scenario, if "Android would have been exactly the same product without the MS patents" then (if not about something trivial) it would have been a very rare situation of a technical solution discovered twice (firstly by Microsoft).
Scenario A is what the patent system was supposed to be.
Yes.
Scenario B is reality most of the time today.
No - most of the time today it's your "A" scenario (patents -as i am sure you know- are about the implementation of a technical solution to a problem - if two different technical solution to a problem exist, then 2 different patents exist).
Question is if the few cases of Scenario A justifies all the Scenario B's.
Well, as i already mentioned, it's the opposite: usually the "A" scenario, with few "B's". But about your (corrected by me) question: i don't know.
What is the advantage of having good "karma" instead of bad "karma"?
Well, (at least) one advantage of having good (/.) "karma" is that your comments start with more than "Score:0" (my current comments start with the same score as of any "Anonymous") - at least one DISadvantage of having good (/.) "karma" is that you become a libtard... oh, i fucked up my (/.) "karma" again!
"Stop learning so much about the world around you. Knowing why complex natural events happen makes it harder to control people through fear of our magic invisible sky ruler."
Thank God i am a Christian, like most of those who advanced science!
The/. summary presents Microsoft as a "loser" that "steals" from those making money, and i feel a strange urge to make an analogy with social leeches and hard-working people, but 2 things stop me: 1) it's a bad analogy, because Microsoft contributes something (its patents - so others can use them and make money) 2) my "karma" is already bad, one day after signing up...
I know that a stupid Greek like me should not talk about productivity, but: some people play video games for some charity, and some other people watch the people that play video games for charity, and donate to that charity because they watched some people playing video games for some charity...
Apparently their definition of "secure network" is different from what I thought it was.
A "secure network", depending on security and networking requirements, may be a "network" that -to be useful- is connected to external resources (thus "bad guys" may attempt to connect), and "secure" enough to detect unauthorized access, so further actions could be taken (i.e., dealing with the "bad guys").
Aye, as long as I can still get piss drunk at the pub, beat me bitch wife, and spit on an Englishman, then I'm alright with it!
Yes, no problem mate, just remember our (greetings from Greece fellow European) "anti-racism/discrimination" laws and make sure the "Englishman" is not some Muslim/Brown from who knows where, and he is not a homo... ah, wait, you can't spit on an Englishman.
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Java>Android>YunOS
You are -at least- helpful... like Gabriel!
I hear great things about that new-fangled VanillaJS framework. Very lightweight and fast, and already more popular than jQuery.
Now hiring a VanillaJS developer with a minimum of 10 years experience - info: thisjokedoesnotwork@slashdot.sucks
No worries about Getting modded down. I have excellent Karma now, I had excellent Karma in the past, and in between I've had BAD Karma. Easy come easier go. The time it took me to go from Excellent to bad was about two days (experiment), to get back to Excellent took about a month.
Which only proves one thing, it is easier to lose Good Karma Points than it is to get it back.
The thing that I change wasn't my view, it was simply how I presented my view.
Thanks dude, you are quite helpful - i tried to be helpful to someone yesterday but it didn't go well (Score:-1, Troll):
The /. summary presents Microsoft as a "loser" that "steals" from those making money, and i feel a strange urge to make an analogy with social leeches and hard-working people, but 2 things stop me: 1) it's a bad analogy, because Microsoft contributes something (its patents - so others can use them and make money) 2) my "karma" is already bad, one day after signing up...
What is the advantage of having good "karma" instead of bad "karma"?
Well, (at least) one advantage of having good (/.) "karma" is that your comments start with more than "Score:0" (my current comments start with the same score as of any "Anonymous") - at least one DISadvantage of having good (/.) "karma" is that you become a libtard... oh, i fucked up my (/.) "karma" again!
Was it something i wrote?
Be a man and post at zero.
At zero? Son... with my "terrible" (/.) "karma" i automaticaly posted* at minus one, something an anonymous coward like you have not experienced yet!
* miraculously my (/.) "karma" just raised to just "bad" - glory to Zeus for sending distress to the /. crowd!
You know nobody gives a crap, right?
You know you just gave a crap, right?
My account is just 2 days old and i already managed to have a "terrible" (/.) "karma" (mostly because yestardays discussion about Microsoft's patents, with me defending Microsoft... and patents!) - hmmm, i must suppress my urge to re-define a "patent troll" as just an entity that buys its research and development from other entity(ies).
The choice isn't pay a high wage or pay a low wage. The choice is grow strawberries that you can sell at a price people will pay, or don't grow strawberries.
In Greece we grow strawberries, with most of the production exported to northern Europe. Northern Europe eats strawberries because to grow strawberries at a price people will pay you need low wages (or robots!) - despite Greece's huge (25%) unemployment, no Greek is working in the fields as a strawberries picker (that's the hard labour), so we must employ (paying -illegaly- low wages) all those illegal immigrants (they are illegal, and it's important to note that because it's important for the point i try to make - AND because they are illegal...) invading Greece/Europe seeking higher wages than those they earn in their places of origin (but are satisfied with lower wages than those legal in Greece/Europe - so, by both being illegal immigrants and illegal worker, they steal the ability of legal workers, some of them legal immigrants by the way, to buy strawberries).
I don't try to blame only the illegal immigrants (our Greek producers that illegaly employ them are also to blame), just to claim that this problem is much more complicated than just "sell at a price people will pay, or don't grow strawberries", and the choises you present must include other factors - some of them quite embarrassing for the usual left-wing person that wants both "open borders" and "wage equality" (those problematic situations -together with the cultural problems Muslim, legal or illegal, immigrants create- contributes to the nationalist rise in Europe).
The rise in nationalism is more to do with sloppy, lazy logic like yours than any inherent qualities of specific immigrants. It's easier to point the finger of blame at conspicuous immigrants than it is to admit you might be part of the problem. I don't want to Godwin, so I won't draw any comparisons, regardless of how chillingly accurate they are.
Well, you don't want to Godwin ... but you already compare me to a NaZi!!!
But don't fell so bad, because at least it is in a discussion that has in its title the word "immigrants", and i understand that for many people the only discussion about immigrants must be how to forbid us "NaZi's" discussing about immigrants! Unfortunately for you my dear fellow slashdoter, we "NaZi's" still discuss the immigration issue (despite all the "anti-racism/discrimination" gag laws), we just do it mainly in forums where its users can at least correct any lazy logic we may have without screaming "racist, racist, racist... NaZi, NaZi, NaZi". You should stop that - you don't help anyone: not yourself, not immigrants, and not us "NaZi".
The choice isn't pay a high wage or pay a low wage.
The choice is grow strawberries that you can sell at a price people will pay, or don't grow strawberries.
In Greece we grow strawberries, with most of the production exported to northern Europe. Northern Europe eats strawberries because to grow strawberries at a price people will pay you need low wages (or robots!) - despite Greece's huge (25%) unemployment, no Greek is working in the fields as a strawberries picker (that's the hard labour), so we must employ (paying -illegaly- low wages) all those illegal immigrants (they are illegal, and it's important to note that because it's important for the point i try to make - AND because they are illegal...) invading Greece/Europe seeking higher wages than those they earn in their places of origin (but are satisfied with lower wages than those legal in Greece/Europe - so, by both being illegal immigrants and illegal worker, they steal the ability of legal workers, some of them legal immigrants by the way, to buy strawberries).
I don't try to blame only the illegal immigrants (our Greek producers that illegaly employ them are also to blame), just to claim that this problem is much more complicated than just "sell at a price people will pay, or don't grow strawberries", and the choises you present must include other factors - some of them quite embarrassing for the usual left-wing person that wants both "open borders" and "wage equality" (those problematic situations -together with the cultural problems Muslim, legal or illegal, immigrants create- contributes to the nationalist rise in Europe).
Enlightenment is very much dependent on the amount of wealth and education available to the population While true, let's not forget that Saudi Arabia is swimming in money, but is one of the most retrograde regimes in the world, with its educational system ceded to the Wahabi Muslim clerics in exchange for their support in Gulf 1. Women can't drive, and are routinely killed for "honor" crimes (imagined and/or real), imprisoned for being raped, forced to have their rapist's child, etc. etc. So wealth does not convey enlightenment, nor does education unless the education itself is enlightened. Which is a bit of a catch-22 that christian Europe was in some ways lucky to achieve at all. If you're waiting for an Islamic enlightenment, you're going to wait a long time. People who believe they already possess all the answers are impossible to enlighten.
Yes, Islamists are racially impure and incapable of being enlightened. That is why over a quarter of the world population are terrorists and backwards people with their thumbs up their asses. They should be more racially pure like our forward thinking societies that have no concept of misogyny, exploitation, and oppression. Sure, sometimes we have to shoot and gas the odd rebel in our society, but that is because they are racially impure. Why can't these lower people think and be more flawless like us?
Sir, where -in the (anonymous') comment you reply to- a racial remark was made, for you to start the (usual) "i am a (probably left-wing) Westerner that will defend Muslims (for Allah knows why!) by describing as a racist someone opposing Islam on the basis of culture, like Muslims/Islam was some kind of a race..."?
which are approximately 1,000 times smaller than our galaxy
Does this mean 1/1000th the size of our galaxy? "Times smaller", "times less" and their ilk are terrible phrases.
I understand it as "1/1000th the size of our galaxy", but without absolute confidence and not before spending some "brain cycles", so i agree with you that are terrible phrases.
"The Bible" consist of two books: the "Old Testament" (i.e., the one that is the basis of the Jewish AND Muslim religions) and the "New Testament" (i.e., the Christian book, which is about Christ and his teachings, killed by the Jews because of the NEW teachings) - so, the "New Testament" is called "new" for a reason... because it updates (the Greek word -i am a Greek by the way- is "Kaine", which also means "updated") the "old".
As a Greek (and Christian), i read the New Testament in the original text (i.e., in Greek, since it was the most common and popular language at that time - but even the most popular version of the Old Testament, used for the most popular translations in other languages, is a Greek translation from the original Jewish called "Greek Old Testament / Septuagint"), and i can assure you that Christ (and His Apostoles) specifically update and elevate the role of women, contrary to what you believe (and contrary to the Muslim religion).
An Italian (i am a Greek - "una fatsa, una ratsa"!) plans to live a year in Greenland... a moment before departure "mamma" starts "dying"... plans change...
You seem to know very much about how all those Christians that advanced science were/are pretending to be Christians... you must be God!
The competition didn't bother because the law says that you have to pay royalties even if you came up with the idea independently.
The competition didn't bother because they did NOT came up with the idea independently OR the law says that you have to pay royalties even if you came up with the idea independently (which is the way the law deals with tangible property actually: "first come, first served").
Be nice. He may just not know anything about software patents and is pretending he does.
Thanks dude - actually i don't know everything about software patents (which are a -problematic- specialization of patents), but i know few things, e.g., they are RARE.
You're obviously not a software developer.
If you claim you are, you are either lying or not a very creative one.
I am a software developer - creative enough (and obviously not modest enough...) to understand that software patents may be problematic, but also RARE cases.
Microsoft contributed something only if you can show that competitors got their ideas from reading Microsoft's patents, and not independently.
But since competition did not show that got their ideas independently, and accept Microsoft's patents... Microsoft contributed something!
Microsoft contributes something (its patents - so others can use them and make money)
Scenario A: Google back when they initially developed Android ran into a design roadblock. They saw no way to solve the particular problem until one of the developers read a MS patent that solved their issue. MS is therefore paid royalties on their patent. Scenario B: Google developed Android without ever having heard of any MS patents. Once Android became popular MS lawyers studied their patents trying to stretch them enough to find infringement. They bully the Android phone makers into paying billions. In this scenario Android would have been exactly the same product without the MS patents and MS is being paid billions for nothing.
Well, very good (and "logically binary") scenarios - but one problem: in your "B" scenario, if "Android would have been exactly the same product without the MS patents" then (if not about something trivial) it would have been a very rare situation of a technical solution discovered twice (firstly by Microsoft).
Scenario A is what the patent system was supposed to be.
Yes.
Scenario B is reality most of the time today.
No - most of the time today it's your "A" scenario (patents -as i am sure you know- are about the implementation of a technical solution to a problem - if two different technical solution to a problem exist, then 2 different patents exist).
Question is if the few cases of Scenario A justifies all the Scenario B's.
Well, as i already mentioned, it's the opposite: usually the "A" scenario, with few "B's". But about your (corrected by me) question: i don't know.
What is the advantage of having good "karma" instead of bad "karma"?
Well, (at least) one advantage of having good (/.) "karma" is that your comments start with more than "Score:0" (my current comments start with the same score as of any "Anonymous") - at least one DISadvantage of having good (/.) "karma" is that you become a libtard... oh, i fucked up my (/.) "karma" again!
"Stop learning so much about the world around you. Knowing why complex natural events happen makes it harder to control people through fear of our magic invisible sky ruler."
Thank God i am a Christian, like most of those who advanced science!
The /. summary presents Microsoft as a "loser" that "steals" from those making money, and i feel a strange urge to make an analogy with social leeches and hard-working people, but 2 things stop me: 1) it's a bad analogy, because Microsoft contributes something (its patents - so others can use them and make money) 2) my "karma" is already bad, one day after signing up...
I know that a stupid Greek like me should not talk about productivity, but: some people play video games for some charity, and some other people watch the people that play video games for charity, and donate to that charity because they watched some people playing video games for some charity...
Apparently their definition of "secure network" is different from what I thought it was.
A "secure network", depending on security and networking requirements, may be a "network" that -to be useful- is connected to external resources (thus "bad guys" may attempt to connect), and "secure" enough to detect unauthorized access, so further actions could be taken (i.e., dealing with the "bad guys").
Aye, as long as I can still get piss drunk at the pub, beat me bitch wife, and spit on an Englishman, then I'm alright with it!
Yes, no problem mate, just remember our (greetings from Greece fellow European) "anti-racism/discrimination" laws and make sure the "Englishman" is not some Muslim/Brown from who knows where, and he is not a homo... ah, wait, you can't spit on an Englishman.