The writers of Yes Minster and Yes Prime Minster had contacts within the government at the time they used as sources. An awful lot of those scripts are inspired by real-life politics. Which is largely why it was so good.
It was so good that i can compare it to only to serious "how to be a politician manuals" (e.g., Machiavelli's "The Prince"), that is why i insist in calling it documentary! Gentle British humor can break bones...
Last year, British officials claimed that flight log records, which might have shed light on those rendition operations, were "incomplete due to water damage” thanks to “extremely heavy weather in June 2014.” A week later, they suddenly reversed themselves, saying that the “previously wet paper records have been dried out.” Two months later, they insisted the logs had not dried out at all and were “damaged to the point of no longer being useful.” Except that the British government’s own weather data indicates that June 2014 was an unusually dry month on Diego Garcia.
My comment about the BBC documentary (yes... i insist!) "Yes, (Prime) Minister" has been modded as "Funny" BUT:
I was watching an episode of it with some "lessons" about how a politician can avoid a reporter's question, and the advise was "just answer the question by saying 'that's not the question', and change the subject answering something irrelevant" - ABOUT JUST AN HOUR LATER i watched some politician in the T.V. DOING EXACTLY THAT (and the phrase he used in Greek -i am Greek- was an exact translation of "that's not the question")!!!
Since you started quoting, (as a Greek) i like to quote something a bit older: the (about 2 milleniums old) Latin "verba volant, scripta manent" - roughly translated by me to English as "spoken words fly, written words stay".
It's funny that you're a Greek repeating a Latin quote. Glad to see someone remembers who won in the Battle of Corinth!
Of course i remember who won in the Battle Of Corinth my dear barbarian... we did, the Greeks!
With the words of the Roman poet Horace: "Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artes intulit agresti Latio" (roughly translated by me to English as: "Conquered Greece conquered its barbaric conqueror and civilized Latins!"), in the same spirit with the similar, and better known to barbarians "Roman arms conquered Greece, Greek civilization conquered Rome"...
That Latin quote was brought to you by a Greek Nationalist (and i could mention our little revenge in WW2... but let's not mention the war!) - for any Italian that wants to mod me down: "una fatsa, una ratsa" (as we say it in Greece, or "una faccia una razza" more correctly).
Never visited Japan, but i have some friends who have visited it (either for business or just tourism) and, by what they told me, they confirm your experiance: huge number of people working in jobs that many Westerners may think that exist just as a justification for employing unskilled people who otherwise they will be unemployed, in a "Japanese style strange Socialism". But i can't call those jobs "pointless", because this situation is compatible with the Japanese culture in my opinion. For example: a person (usually of old age) inside a restaurant's toilet cleaning it after every use and offering some cologne is quite "Japanese" - as "the store greeter" you mentioned is, which is also something coming from their culture. This does not mean that what you describe is not a reality, it just means that "Luddites" can relax: there are plenty of usefull jobs for unskilled/unemployed people ("usefulness" depending on cultural criteria) - of course it is better to do it as the Japanese do it, NOT as Sosialists/Communists would like.
Since you started quoting, (as a Greek) i like to quote something a bit older: the (about 2 milleniums old) Latin "verba volant, scripta manent" - roughly translated by me to English as "spoken words fly, written words stay".
evading the lawful requirement to preserve their own.
Typical.
As explained in the BBC documentary "Yes, (Prime) Minister" by Sir Humphrey Appleby: "some correspondence lost in the floods of 1967..." (now you may ask "Was 1967 a particularly bad winter?" - "No, a marvellous winter. We lost no end of embarrassing files.")
Can you give me an example? Because right now this ability looks like the tiger-repellent rock to me.
I am not the one you asked the question to, but i am "that Greek NATIONALIST".... so allow me please to offer my opinion on what the fellow Slashdoter means: the word diplomat originates from a Greek word (yes... one more Greek word you barbarians use - not so diplomatic to write that!), that as a compound word can mean "double-view" - the fact that it is not easy to offer an example of "prevented wars" is because diplomacy did its thing... but i can give you many examples of UN-prevented wars because of failure for this "double-view"!
That is a good explanation too my friend... but i think that in THIS case (and reason for my "paranoid rant" you respond to) it's not so important the fact that i tell them that i am a Greek (in almost every post... i think i made one comment about systemd that i did not mentioned it!), but the fact that i tell them that i am Greek (ooops... i did it again!) NATIONALIST...
Posting as anon to preserver mods
While I see that this has been modded troll it is really not. You posted your opinion and granted while considered a somewhat controversial one it is none the less one that shouldn't be censored and in this case marked as troll.
I am very glad that you Sir, even if you may disagree with me, understand why i made, AND the point of, my comment - SADLY, and for just keeping it sort (and only about our small "Slashdot universe"), i am afraid that you are the very rare type of Slashdoter/moderator who still tries to save his soul... AND the world!
"... a lot of money in the market looking for homes"
Yeah. That's what happens when interest rates are zero.
Analyst/consultant type smells money...
And one of the reasons that interest rates are so low currently is because banks are full with people's money, since they are trusted more than various "financial analysts/consultants" who mis-advised them recently - not so productive for the economy to have money buried in bank accounts instead of being invested directly to businesses, nor "healthy" for society to mis-trust its "money experts", but when i read about GitHub's "2 billions valuation"... i can only think: bubbles!
IOW, Slashdot now has its very own Golden Dawn operative. Isn't that special.
I never denied that Sir, i actually write it many times (almost as many times i write that i am a Greek!) out of (cultural/politic) honesty (because i believe that anyone's point of view if effected by cultural/politic/etc factors) - i do exist also in this world, and in Slashdot, so why it must be something "special" (if Slashdot is not something "special" where i can not exist in it)?
Well, Mr. Greek, are you trying to see if you can get the EU to come down on Slashdot?
Imagine that: one more "anonymous" (who knows that i am Greek... by reading my signature that only Slashdoters with accounts can?), replying to a comment i made (and already modded down to "Score: -1"!) containing a link to the actual European Court of Human Rights judgment and some parts from it with the actual comments that the judgment is about - you should better ask this question ("are you trying to see if you can get the EU to come down on Slashdot?") to fellow Slashdoters who modded down my comment, because YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT MY ANSWER IS my dear fellow Slashdoter...
Yes, but you get to be censored not by the EU, but by the/. moderators.
I am a Greek NATIONALIST, and (among other things) i am anti-Muslim (i.e., i hate Muslims), because i love the Western (Greek-Roman AND Christian) Civilization that Muslims WILL DESTROY if we don't defend it - i can not express myself freely because i am CENSORED by the E.U. (it is illegal for me to even mention FACTS, not just my opinion - i can go to jail...)
This comment may be modded down by fellow Slashdoters who may disagree with me (as many similar comments i made) BUT at least can make it in this U.S.A. based site - this will NOT be "censorship"... censorship is what we do in E.U.!
I pray to God for U.S.A. and its "Yankees" to be safe and protect free-speech, so both, i, the Greek, AND U.S.A. "barbarians", can protect the Western (Greek-Roman AND Christian) Civilization.
B. Article and comments published on the Internet news portal
16. On 24 January 2006 the applicant company published an article on the Delfi portal under the heading “SLK Destroyed Planned Ice Road”. Ice roads are public roads over the frozen sea which are open between the Estonian mainland and some islands in winter. The abbreviation “SLK” stands for AS Saaremaa Laevakompanii (Saaremaa Shipping Company, a public limited liability company). SLK provides a public ferry transport service between the mainland and certain islands. L. was a member of the supervisory board of SLK and the company’s sole or majority shareholder at the material time.
17. On 24 and 25 January 2006 the article attracted 185 comments. About twenty of them contained personal threats and offensive language directed against L.
18. On 9 March 2006 L.’s lawyers requested the applicant company to remove the offensive comments and claimed 500,000 Estonian kroons (EEK) (approximately 32,000 euros (EUR)) in compensation for non-pecuniary damage. The request concerned the following twenty comments:
“1. (1) there are currents in [V]äinameri
(2) open water is closer to the places you referred to, and the ice is thinner.
Proposal – let’s do as in 1905, let’s go to [K]uressaare with sticks and put [L.] and [Le.] in a bag
2. bloody shitheads...
they bathe in money anyway thanks to that monopoly and State subsidies and have now started to fear that cars may drive to the islands for a couple of days without anything filling their purses. burn in your own ship, sick Jew!
3. good that [La.’s] initiative has not broken down the lines of the web flamers. go ahead, guys, [L.] into the oven!
4. [little L.] go and drown yourself
5. aha... [I] hardly believe that that happened by accident... assholes fck
6. rascal!!! [in Russian]
7. What are you whining for, knock this bastard down once and for all [.] In future the other ones... will know what they risk, even they will only have one little life.
8.... is goddamn right. Lynching, to warn the other [islanders] and would-be men. Then nothing like that will be done again! In any event, [L.] very much deserves that, doesn’t he.
9. “a good man lives a long time, a shitty man a day or two”
10. If there was an iceroad, [one] could easily save 500 for a full car, fckng [L.] pay for that economy, why does it take 3 [hours] for your ferries if they are such good icebreakers, go and break ice in Pärnu port... instead, fcking monkey, I will cross [the strait] anyway and if I drown, it’s your fault
11. and can’t anyone defy these shits?
12. inhabitants of Saaremaa and Hiiumaa islands, do 1:0 to this dope.
13. wonder whether [L.] won’t be knocked down in Saaremaa? screwing one’s own folk like that.
14. The people will chatter for a couple of days on the Internet, but the crooks (and also those who are backed and whom we ourselves have elected to represent us) pocket the money and pay no attention to this flaming – no one gives a shit about this.
Once [M.] and other big crooks also used to boss around, but their greed struck back (RIP). Will also strike back for these crooks sooner or later. As they sow, so shall they reap, but they should nevertheless be contained (by lynching as the state is powerless towards them – it is really them who govern the state), because they only live for today. Tomorrow, the flood.
15. this [V.] will one day get hit with a cake by me.
damn, as soon as you put a cauldron on the fire and there is smoke rising from the chimney of the sauna, the crows from Saaremaa are there – thinking that... a pig is going to be slaughtered. no way
16. bastards!!
You are overlooking that there are large differences in IQs based on other factors. Look up the Flynn effect. Back around 1930, the average American had what would now be an IQ around 80. They weren't genetically different from the average American nowadays. There's debate on what caused the difference, but by citing an average black IQ score of 80 you're putting them on a par with the 1930 US.
Shall we just accept the biological fact that 1930s US people were inferior?
I don't overlook them, i just think you may overestimate their effect, and in any case (most of) those other factors are still biological/physiological (e.g., nutrition) - yes, i think the white race's IQ level was in the (far) past where the black's is now (and i think that the black's level can be elevated... not so much, not so quickly, but surely it can - just by better nutricion it can gain at least 1-3 IQ points in the next few generations).
I really appreciate your (good) advice my friend, and understand it very well, but: a) anonymous can not read my signature b) as a (Greek) NATIONALIST i *want* to emphasize cultural differences (not only between "Greeks and barbarians" but between any nationality and others) that exist among people and effect most discussions (even about systemd?!) - it is impossible to avoid that "love" i get from fellow Slashdoters because most Slashdot's discussions are not about systemd and similar technical issues but about politics and stuff like that!
But anyway... thanks for getting in to the trouble of "warning the new kid on the block"!
Calling that kind of government activity "babysitting" is what an ultra-capitalist greek corporate shill would do.:)
Now that we have this "Greek" thing right, let's deal with the other parts: i am "ultra-capitalist" (and/or ANTI-statist as you understand) BUT i am NOT a "corporate shill" (i don't even have a facebook account!) - so, you was 1/3 right, now you are 2/3!
AC comment above wasn't me... I wouldn't personally insult you because of disagreeing with you. Especially not in that kind of language.
Don't worry about that my friend, most of the times it is easy for me to understand "who is who" (and i never thought it was you), plus, i am used to it (i am a Greek NATIONALIST, most of this "love" i am getting from "anonymous" is actually from Slashdoters who don't like my "nationalistic racist/sexist ways" - most probably you don't like them either, but i am old enough to know how to make the distinction between people who just disagree with me and assholes!).
I look forward to yet another xenophobic or misogynist post from you.
I am here to serve fellow Slashdoters... but i already explained to you how problematic this "xenophobic/misogynist" terms are (both Greeks words by the way... and i am a -racist/sexist- Greek!)
Shouldn't you be paying taxes instead of giving the world a bad impression of Greeks?
I am Greek NATIONALIST - i always paid and still pay my (heavy this year) taxes religiously Sir.
"we like our goverments to treat us like babies who can't enter in to an agreement with a business"
Let's be clear:
This court case is, among other things, about the like- and connect-buttons Facebook uses to track people on other websites on the web even if they have NO agreement with this company.
Yes, i agree Sir (since you keep it "straight to facts only")- BUT you may want to read some other comments i and other Slashdoters made about that (my basic point there is that it is legal to gather *general* personal data without consent).
if the data controller or a third party has a legitimate interest in doing so, as long as this interest does not affect the interests of the data subject, or infringe on his or her fundamental rights, in particular the right to privacy. This provision establishes the need to strike a reasonable balance between the data controllers' business interests and the privacy of data subjects.
First of all: this is a directive (it is more than 2 decades old, and it become -some of its provisions- law in my country Greece just a couple of years ago), plus... read the the part in bold.
Yes, and directives are the basis for national laws, meaning that national laws have to at least reach that level.
Also, please explain to us how Facebooks interest in collecting data from people that are not Facebook members is more legitimate than the interest of said people not having their data collected by a company they have no contractual relationship with?
The link included in my previous reply leads to an attempt i made to (badly) define a "directive" that you should read it, if you didn't already, plus read the reply you had from some anomymous poster - you quoted some parts of a directive, i put emphasis to a part i think it is relevant and told you to read it (it says something about "reasonable balance")... the rest is facebook's problem, i am not their lawyer my friiend!
Yea, we Europeans are really super extra great, not like Yankees... it is just that we like our goverments to treat us like babies who can't enter in to an agreement with a business
I expect my government to protect me so that I can focus on my life. I thought this was one of the reasons I pay taxes.
I would hope that keeping me safe from bullshit and invasive practices of corporations is part of that protection.
Calling that kind of government activity "babysitting" is what an ultra-capitalist american corporate shill would do.
Thank Zeus i am Greek then, so i can call that kind of government activity "babysitting" without being accused by some statist as "ultra-capitalist american corporate shill"...
Slashdot Mirror
This site is supposed to be about the tech itself, not the financial problems of the people behind it.
Slashdot has been posting mostly non-tech stories for more than a decade now. Get over yourself.
There, i fixed that for you - you are welcomed!
The writers of Yes Minster and Yes Prime Minster had contacts within the government at the time they used as sources. An awful lot of those scripts are inspired by real-life politics. Which is largely why it was so good.
It was so good that i can compare it to only to serious "how to be a politician manuals" (e.g., Machiavelli's "The Prince"), that is why i insist in calling it documentary!
Gentle British humor can break bones...
Amazingly:
My comment about the BBC documentary (yes... i insist!) "Yes, (Prime) Minister" has been modded as "Funny" BUT:
I was watching an episode of it with some "lessons" about how a politician can avoid a reporter's question, and the advise was "just answer the question by saying 'that's not the question', and change the subject answering something irrelevant" - ABOUT JUST AN HOUR LATER i watched some politician in the T.V. DOING EXACTLY THAT (and the phrase he used in Greek -i am Greek- was an exact translation of "that's not the question" )!!!
Since you started quoting, (as a Greek) i like to quote something a bit older: the (about 2 milleniums old) Latin "verba volant, scripta manent" - roughly translated by me to English as "spoken words fly, written words stay".
It's funny that you're a Greek repeating a Latin quote. Glad to see someone remembers who won in the Battle of Corinth!
Of course i remember who won in the Battle Of Corinth my dear barbarian... we did, the Greeks!
With the words of the Roman poet Horace: "Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artes intulit agresti Latio" (roughly translated by me to English as: "Conquered Greece conquered its barbaric conqueror and civilized Latins!"), in the same spirit with the similar, and better known to barbarians "Roman arms conquered Greece, Greek civilization conquered Rome" ...
That Latin quote was brought to you by a Greek Nationalist (and i could mention our little revenge in WW2... but let's not mention the war!) - for any Italian that wants to mod me down: "una fatsa, una ratsa" (as we say it in Greece, or "una faccia una razza" more correctly).
Never visited Japan, but i have some friends who have visited it (either for business or just tourism) and, by what they told me, they confirm your experiance: huge number of people working in jobs that many Westerners may think that exist just as a justification for employing unskilled people who otherwise they will be unemployed, in a "Japanese style strange Socialism". But i can't call those jobs "pointless", because this situation is compatible with the Japanese culture in my opinion. For example: a person (usually of old age) inside a restaurant's toilet cleaning it after every use and offering some cologne is quite "Japanese" - as "the store greeter" you mentioned is, which is also something coming from their culture. This does not mean that what you describe is not a reality, it just means that "Luddites" can relax: there are plenty of usefull jobs for unskilled/unemployed people ("usefulness" depending on cultural criteria) - of course it is better to do it as the Japanese do it, NOT as Sosialists/Communists would like.
Since you started quoting, (as a Greek) i like to quote something a bit older: the (about 2 milleniums old) Latin "verba volant, scripta manent" - roughly translated by me to English as "spoken words fly, written words stay".
evading the lawful requirement to preserve their own.
Typical.
As explained in the BBC documentary "Yes, (Prime) Minister" by Sir Humphrey Appleby: "some correspondence lost in the floods of 1967..." (now you may ask "Was 1967 a particularly bad winter?" - "No, a marvellous winter. We lost no end of embarrassing files.")
"Yes, Minister - The Skeleton in the Cupboard"
Can you give me an example? Because right now this ability looks like the tiger-repellent rock to me.
I am not the one you asked the question to, but i am "that Greek NATIONALIST".... so allow me please to offer my opinion on what the fellow Slashdoter means: the word diplomat originates from a Greek word (yes... one more Greek word you barbarians use - not so diplomatic to write that!), that as a compound word can mean "double-view" - the fact that it is not easy to offer an example of "prevented wars" is because diplomacy did its thing... but i can give you many examples of UN-prevented wars because of failure for this "double-view"!
That is a good explanation too my friend... but i think that in THIS case (and reason for my "paranoid rant" you respond to) it's not so important the fact that i tell them that i am a Greek (in almost every post... i think i made one comment about systemd that i did not mentioned it!), but the fact that i tell them that i am Greek (ooops... i did it again!) NATIONALIST...
Posting as anon to preserver mods While I see that this has been modded troll it is really not. You posted your opinion and granted while considered a somewhat controversial one it is none the less one that shouldn't be censored and in this case marked as troll.
I am very glad that you Sir, even if you may disagree with me, understand why i made, AND the point of, my comment - SADLY, and for just keeping it sort (and only about our small "Slashdot universe"), i am afraid that you are the very rare type of Slashdoter/moderator who still tries to save his soul... AND the world!
"... a lot of money in the market looking for homes"
Yeah. That's what happens when interest rates are zero.
Analyst/consultant type smells money...
And one of the reasons that interest rates are so low currently is because banks are full with people's money, since they are trusted more than various "financial analysts/consultants" who mis-advised them recently - not so productive for the economy to have money buried in bank accounts instead of being invested directly to businesses, nor "healthy" for society to mis-trust its "money experts", but when i read about GitHub's "2 billions valuation"... i can only think: bubbles!
IOW, Slashdot now has its very own Golden Dawn operative. Isn't that special.
I never denied that Sir, i actually write it many times (almost as many times i write that i am a Greek!) out of (cultural/politic) honesty (because i believe that anyone's point of view if effected by cultural/politic/etc factors) - i do exist also in this world, and in Slashdot, so why it must be something "special" (if Slashdot is not something "special" where i can not exist in it)?
Same AC here. I actually think your comment should be modded as +1, Informative. I did not mod you down. My jest was a bit flat.
Don't worry Sir, i understand what Slashdot is and what is happening around here with OUR fellow Slashdoters, that is why i asked you to ask them what you asked me!
... and parent's post is exactly why websites need to proactively publish comments, instead of being retroactive, or doing nothing at all.
Since I did that post, and since i made one more for this story... my answer to you is: a link to a third one i made!
Well, Mr. Greek, are you trying to see if you can get the EU to come down on Slashdot?
Imagine that: one more "anonymous" (who knows that i am Greek... by reading my signature that only Slashdoters with accounts can?), replying to a comment i made (and already modded down to "Score: -1"!) containing a link to the actual European Court of Human Rights judgment and some parts from it with the actual comments that the judgment is about - you should better ask this question ("are you trying to see if you can get the EU to come down on Slashdot?") to fellow Slashdoters who modded down my comment, because YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT MY ANSWER IS my dear fellow Slashdoter...
Yes, but you get to be censored not by the EU, but by the /. moderators.
I am a Greek NATIONALIST, and (among other things) i am anti-Muslim (i.e., i hate Muslims), because i love the Western (Greek-Roman AND Christian) Civilization that Muslims WILL DESTROY if we don't defend it - i can not express myself freely because i am CENSORED by the E.U. (it is illegal for me to even mention FACTS, not just my opinion - i can go to jail...)
This comment may be modded down by fellow Slashdoters who may disagree with me (as many similar comments i made) BUT at least can make it in this U.S.A. based site - this will NOT be "censorship"... censorship is what we do in E.U.!
I pray to God for U.S.A. and its "Yankees" to be safe and protect free-speech, so both, i, the Greek, AND U.S.A. "barbarians", can protect the Western (Greek-Roman AND Christian) Civilization.
B. Article and comments published on the Internet news portal 16. On 24 January 2006 the applicant company published an article on the Delfi portal under the heading “SLK Destroyed Planned Ice Road”. Ice roads are public roads over the frozen sea which are open between the Estonian mainland and some islands in winter. The abbreviation “SLK” stands for AS Saaremaa Laevakompanii (Saaremaa Shipping Company, a public limited liability company). SLK provides a public ferry transport service between the mainland and certain islands. L. was a member of the supervisory board of SLK and the company’s sole or majority shareholder at the material time. 17. On 24 and 25 January 2006 the article attracted 185 comments. About twenty of them contained personal threats and offensive language directed against L. 18. On 9 March 2006 L.’s lawyers requested the applicant company to remove the offensive comments and claimed 500,000 Estonian kroons (EEK) (approximately 32,000 euros (EUR)) in compensation for non-pecuniary damage. The request concerned the following twenty comments: “1. (1) there are currents in [V]äinameri (2) open water is closer to the places you referred to, and the ice is thinner. Proposal – let’s do as in 1905, let’s go to [K]uressaare with sticks and put [L.] and [Le.] in a bag 2. bloody shitheads... they bathe in money anyway thanks to that monopoly and State subsidies and have now started to fear that cars may drive to the islands for a couple of days without anything filling their purses. burn in your own ship, sick Jew! 3. good that [La.’s] initiative has not broken down the lines of the web flamers. go ahead, guys, [L.] into the oven! 4. [little L.] go and drown yourself 5. aha... [I] hardly believe that that happened by accident... assholes fck 6. rascal!!! [in Russian] 7. What are you whining for, knock this bastard down once and for all [.] In future the other ones ... will know what they risk, even they will only have one little life.
8. ... is goddamn right. Lynching, to warn the other [islanders] and would-be men. Then nothing like that will be done again! In any event, [L.] very much deserves that, doesn’t he.
9. “a good man lives a long time, a shitty man a day or two”
10. If there was an iceroad, [one] could easily save 500 for a full car, fckng [L.] pay for that economy, why does it take 3 [hours] for your ferries if they are such good icebreakers, go and break ice in Pärnu port ... instead, fcking monkey, I will cross [the strait] anyway and if I drown, it’s your fault
11. and can’t anyone defy these shits?
12. inhabitants of Saaremaa and Hiiumaa islands, do 1:0 to this dope.
13. wonder whether [L.] won’t be knocked down in Saaremaa? screwing one’s own folk like that.
14. The people will chatter for a couple of days on the Internet, but the crooks (and also those who are backed and whom we ourselves have elected to represent us) pocket the money and pay no attention to this flaming – no one gives a shit about this.
Once [M.] and other big crooks also used to boss around, but their greed struck back (RIP). Will also strike back for these crooks sooner or later. As they sow, so shall they reap, but they should nevertheless be contained (by lynching as the state is powerless towards them – it is really them who govern the state), because they only live for today. Tomorrow, the flood.
15. this [V.] will one day get hit with a cake by me.
damn, as soon as you put a cauldron on the fire and there is smoke rising from the chimney of the sauna, the crows from Saaremaa are there – thinking that ... a pig is going to be slaughtered. no way
16. bastards!!
You are overlooking that there are large differences in IQs based on other factors. Look up the Flynn effect. Back around 1930, the average American had what would now be an IQ around 80. They weren't genetically different from the average American nowadays. There's debate on what caused the difference, but by citing an average black IQ score of 80 you're putting them on a par with the 1930 US.
Shall we just accept the biological fact that 1930s US people were inferior?
I don't overlook them, i just think you may overestimate their effect, and in any case (most of) those other factors are still biological/physiological (e.g., nutrition) - yes, i think the white race's IQ level was in the (far) past where the black's is now (and i think that the black's level can be elevated... not so much, not so quickly, but surely it can - just by better nutricion it can gain at least 1-3 IQ points in the next few generations).
I wonder how illegal he believes it to be for people to pay him for the food they eat in his restaurant.
I bet he loves laws when it's time to get paid by customers eating his food!
But anyway... thanks for getting in to the trouble of "warning the new kid on the block"!
Fair enough.
Then, let me rephrase that statement:
Calling that kind of government activity "babysitting" is what an ultra-capitalist greek corporate shill would do. :)
Now that we have this "Greek" thing right, let's deal with the other parts: i am "ultra-capitalist" (and/or ANTI-statist as you understand) BUT i am NOT a "corporate shill" (i don't even have a facebook account!) - so, you was 1/3 right, now you are 2/3!
AC comment above wasn't me... I wouldn't personally insult you because of disagreeing with you. Especially not in that kind of language.
Don't worry about that my friend, most of the times it is easy for me to understand "who is who" (and i never thought it was you), plus, i am used to it (i am a Greek NATIONALIST, most of this "love" i am getting from "anonymous" is actually from Slashdoters who don't like my "nationalistic racist/sexist ways" - most probably you don't like them either, but i am old enough to know how to make the distinction between people who just disagree with me and assholes!).
I look forward to yet another xenophobic or misogynist post from you.
I am here to serve fellow Slashdoters... but i already explained to you how problematic this "xenophobic/misogynist" terms are (both Greeks words by the way... and i am a -racist/sexist- Greek!)
Shouldn't you be paying taxes instead of giving the world a bad impression of Greeks?
I am Greek NATIONALIST - i always paid and still pay my (heavy this year) taxes religiously Sir.
"we like our goverments to treat us like babies who can't enter in to an agreement with a business"
Let's be clear:
This court case is, among other things, about the like- and connect-buttons Facebook uses to track people on other websites on the web even if they have NO agreement with this company.
Yes, i agree Sir (since you keep it "straight to facts only")- BUT you may want to read some other comments i and other Slashdoters made about that (my basic point there is that it is legal to gather *general* personal data without consent).
if the data controller or a third party has a legitimate interest in doing so, as long as this interest does not affect the interests of the data subject, or infringe on his or her fundamental rights, in particular the right to privacy. This provision establishes the need to strike a reasonable balance between the data controllers' business interests and the privacy of data subjects.
First of all: this is a directive (it is more than 2 decades old, and it become -some of its provisions- law in my country Greece just a couple of years ago), plus... read the the part in bold.
Yes, and directives are the basis for national laws, meaning that national laws have to at least reach that level.
Also, please explain to us how Facebooks interest in collecting data from people that are not Facebook members is more legitimate than the interest of said people not having their data collected by a company they have no contractual relationship with?
The link included in my previous reply leads to an attempt i made to (badly) define a "directive" that you should read it, if you didn't already, plus read the reply you had from some anomymous poster - you quoted some parts of a directive, i put emphasis to a part i think it is relevant and told you to read it (it says something about "reasonable balance")... the rest is facebook's problem, i am not their lawyer my friiend!
Yea, we Europeans are really super extra great, not like Yankees... it is just that we like our goverments to treat us like babies who can't enter in to an agreement with a business
I expect my government to protect me so that I can focus on my life. I thought this was one of the reasons I pay taxes. I would hope that keeping me safe from bullshit and invasive practices of corporations is part of that protection.
Calling that kind of government activity "babysitting" is what an ultra-capitalist american corporate shill would do.
Thank Zeus i am Greek then, so i can call that kind of government activity "babysitting" without being accused by some statist as "ultra-capitalist american corporate shill"...