So the editor essentially lied to us by leaving that part out?
Well, let's not make it so dramatic by using this "lie" word - as a Greek i think that they just used some of my famous ancestors' ways of making the narrative a bit more tragic by excluding some parts from the prologue... it makes theater more interesting, let's not complain so much and just enjoy this comedy my friend!
in many cases removing/delaying to release features is good *business* tactic
Artificial limits is just a sign of poor management.
I don't fully disagree with that, but consider this case: for financial reasons (e.g., predicting that in the future some assets will be devaluated) R&D gets a huge budget and deliver a product way beyond of what your competitors will have in the far future - from a business point of view it may be a good idea to exploit that investment by gradually releasing features.
The issue, numbnuts, has never been whether it's "okay to murder an unborn child" but whether it's a good idea to empower the government to prevent it, which, as history clearly fucking shows us, results in an even worse situation.
First of all: NEVER use such language if you reply to me again... "numbnuts" - read my signature... i am a Greek struggling with my English, so you could use something more simple like "stupid/full/retard/etc".
About abortions: your argument is like arguing "whether it's a good idea to empower the government to prevent murder" (of ANY type) - don't we *already* "empower the government to prevent murder"?
According to Secunia they, "frequently encounter organizations engaged in wrongful use of Secunia Advisories,"
According to Secunia: "The decision was made to avoid abuse of the advisories for commercial use, and because we frequently encounter organizations engaged in wrongful use of Secunia Advisories." - include that part also from the forum post and avoid much of the "Slashdot drama"...
[...] Yet killing a chimp is not considered "murder".
Perhaps it should be?
I will not answer your question (i am not even the one you replied to), but i think it would be the "insult" missing from the "injury" when we humans allow murdering other humans with abortions and call it pro-choice - note before down-mod: "pro-choice".... this ephemism is already "an insult added to injury"!
You have mixed up you objections with at least 2 legit issues: the method used to cause "frustration" to the mouse (which i thought to be "one of the less or even the least harmful" and one anonymous already replied confirming that) and if this experiment can reveal anything about "depression" (for which the fellow Slashdoter "sleepypsycho" answers very well) - i will give an answer about this 'torturing animals just because one particular subset of well-paid sadists can write it off as some debased form of "science"' you write: if you want to sadisticaly torture animals (i.e., just for the "fun"), you do it in the privacy of your home or somewhere else, but not in the lab - just before i wrote the comment you replied to, i wrote some other where i confess that i used to torture animals as a kid... in the lab, any torture is for science, not for "fun".
I know this kind of thing needs to be done. Still I find it repulsive from an emotional point of view.
Does it? Does it really?
I get research needing to test on animals but a test like this is not necessary. You can prove the same results using less harmful methods.
I believe that the method used may be one of the less or even the least harmful - keep in mind that for *this* experiment... some harmful method *must* be used... i think!
I know this kind of thing needs to be done. Still I find it repulsive from an emotional point of view.
I agree that this kind of things (i.e., experiments on animals) needs to be done, and, even as a hypocrite who has tortured animals just for "fun" as a kid, i understand how you feel - my hope is that we can use this emotional repulsiveness to better the lives of any animals we use as livestock (which are far more than animals we use for experiments and also tortured by our current livestock raising methods).
No, Apple isn't looking to buy it nor does the article that Soulskill linked even say that. Soulskill made up the claim entirely.
It's good that we have an older than i am Slashdoter like you writing how an "Apple should just buy DuckDuckGo" post become "Apple a top contender to buy DuckDuckGo"...
and different business units have different goals for this developer platform when it comes to sales and marketing
When you let sales and marketing drive technical decisions, brace for failure.
Years ago I worked for mini-computer maker Data General (a.k.a "Data Who"). One of the things that took down that company was the the engineers, architects and designers built amazing technology that was far ahead of anyone else. Then marketing would come in and say "Fantastic! Great Job! Now we just need you to remove this feature and that feature, because. as it is. this machine out preforms that bigger, older, more expensive system that we are already selling." Look where that company is now.
While your point is wise (and from experience, so i respect it even more) this "sales and marketing drive technical decisions" is unavoidable, plus not exactly correct in your example, since you could say that S&M respected R&D technical decisions (they even congratulated you!) but after that, what and how they wanted to sell it's their job, not yours - you may be right about the reason of the company's failures, but in many cases removing/delaying to release features is good *business* tactic (it happens all the time - "competing with yourself" is good for sports, but...).
Why would you need MS Office to communicate with others. That's what we have e-mail and phones and a number of other tools for. Using a Word document to communicate something generally gets ignored.
"Communicating" was just an example (it may also be a need from managment to connect Excel and DB), but even that is often done with reports (a form of "communication", like the Word document you mentioned).
Also, most people have evolved to be able to use more than just MSOffice, they can use LibreOffice, Google Docs etc.
That is why i wrote '(or better generally "office suite")', but "MS Office" is the standard.
If your HR drones fail to recognize the technological process since 2000, their performance needs reviewing.
And if DBA's fail to include in their resumes (or worse: use) "MS Office" (or better generally "office suite") in our current times... their performance needs reviewing!
If you are a Greek (like i am) you may want to use the word "[note: Slashdot failed to display this word typed in Unicode because it is Slashdot...]" for measuring the quality of any streaming music service - and similary for any other nationality (using some non-Greek, word of course!), with the exception of Americans/British people - there is a huge audience that will not be serviced by the usual streaming music services because those services stream only the usual USA/UK/etc stuff (that i also listen but are not my only or first choice)
Looking for "MS Office" (or better generally "office suite") on a resume for DBA's is o.k., since some/much of DBA's work inside an organization/business is other than "use that damn database you bought"directly, like for example indirectly"use that damn database you bought" by communicating with other (human) resources of that organization/business ABOUT "that damn database you bought" - so HR staff must make sure DBA's can perform both duties.
I congratulate you because you managed to make a "first post" about something which is both on-topic AND off-topic AS a creative criticism for the recent Slashdot "up(/down)-grade"...
That was a good interview in your link - very polite, but also insisting in the question (even if not answered it makes the point clear: the other guy does not answers the question!). By the way, i am Greek, i don't follow UK media much, but that reporter (Jeremy Paxman, as i read his name from the video) is one of my (few) favourite non-Greek reporters... i have watched some other interviews he made and i always found him polite but (bravely) persistent (you may have some criticism for him, especially if you are from UK, but i write it as someone who only watched him few times).
Many, many years ago, Sourceforge used to be not bad (or even good), plus until some years ago there were no good alternatives - then, some years ago (especially after DICE bought it), Sourceforge decided to make money with the worst possible way (especially since it was against the "spirit" of many/most projects/developers hosted there): by fraud (sure, i am bad with my English, but in Greek i would had call it... "fraud", plus -from the first definition of a dictionary- i quote: "deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.").
A fraudster (Sourceforge) can continue to commit his fraud as long as some people continue to trust him (because either they are ignorant of his fraud or forgive him) - we can inform those ignorant about Sourceforge's fraud (which are the majority of those who still trust it), and criticize those still trusting Sourceforge (especially after the latest incidents), but better not do it in a "questioning/interrogating" way, because it may appear that we also blame the victim (e.g., the fellow Slashdoter who as developer hosted his project there, but now informs us that he is leaving - yes he is also a victim, since Sourceforge abused his good faith as a developer and his project as lure for other victims).
Usually many/(most?) Slashdoters are very "sensitive" with my (Greek) Nationalism...
I don't think a little pride in one's country is a problem. Just resist the urge to invade Poland because of it, and we're good;)
I will NOT ask if some Polish blood flows inside you... one of my comments (about a week ago) - in my case, my Nationalism is a bit more than "a little pride in one's country [Greece]", but o.k., i will try to leave Poland out of it*!
* Why i made that promise? Now i have to redraw the "Great Greece" map...
Usually many/(most?) Slashdoters are very "sensitive" with my (Greek) Nationalism - but to "people of history/language/culture/etc", who know about the Battle of Corinth, Latin quotes, Roman poets, etc, i am confident that i can respond with some "nationalistc way (between funny and serious)", without them reacting like... you know... the usual Slashdoter!
I always get Greece and Turkey confused. I think that's because they are mostly the same except that Greece is Muslim and Turkey is Christian and that's why they hate each other.
Even if our only difference between us Greeks and the Turks was that we are Christians and they are Muslims, i think you should try something that will clear up your "confusion" because you may end up like all those fellow Greek Christians (and Armenians/Assyrians/Kurds/etc) murdered by Turkish Muslims - a friendly advise from a Christian Greek Nationalist, for your own safety dear "confused anonymous".
There's also the fact that John Travolta starred in both Greece (with Olivia Newton John) and a turkey (Battlefield Earth).
Good jokes are good jokes, even when they are from assholes... and that was a realy good one!
It's surely a deep American point of view (that i respect very much - i am Greek, you Yankees are more Greek than what you may think!), plus i know that little thing between British and Americans (very recently i made a little joke about that "thing" with my -a bit rough- Greek humor that didn't went so well!), but i am a Greek ethnicaly and citizen (i have been in UK -for business and/or pleasure- just a few times, and totaly not more than few months), so that "majesty" from me was only a "recognition" to British people that she represents and i love so much.
Also: i am a racist/sexist Greek Nationalist! There is an -almost real, even if fake- "Greek" guy in the British royal family that... lets say that he says few things in an "un-diplomatic" way - so, yes, as long as real British (and/or almost real, even if fake "Greeks"!) exist in that family: God Save The Queen/King!
Greeks and barbarians: a beautiful Italian lady (Sophia Loren) singing a beautiful Greek song ("I love you - what is this thing called love?") -in great Greek!-, from a more than 50 years old USA movie ("Boy on a Dolphin") shot in Greece!
Really? The HMRC in the UK is very quick at giving overpayments and corrections back - on a few occasions I have had cheques simply turn up without any requests or even knowing I was due one.
Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC) is THE ONLY goverment organization that after interacting with it i did not felt as raped - and it was about taking money from them... PLUS: i am a Greek - that i had to do some of my interactions with them by phone (i am terrible with writen English, and even worse when speaking them - they even offered me live translation services if i ever needed it!).
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So the editor essentially lied to us by leaving that part out?
Well, let's not make it so dramatic by using this "lie" word - as a Greek i think that they just used some of my famous ancestors' ways of making the narrative a bit more tragic by excluding some parts from the prologue... it makes theater more interesting, let's not complain so much and just enjoy this comedy my friend!
in many cases removing/delaying to release features is good *business* tactic
Artificial limits is just a sign of poor management.
I don't fully disagree with that, but consider this case: for financial reasons (e.g., predicting that in the future some assets will be devaluated) R&D gets a huge budget and deliver a product way beyond of what your competitors will have in the far future - from a business point of view it may be a good idea to exploit that investment by gradually releasing features.
The issue, numbnuts, has never been whether it's "okay to murder an unborn child" but whether it's a good idea to empower the government to prevent it, which, as history clearly fucking shows us, results in an even worse situation.
First of all: NEVER use such language if you reply to me again... "numbnuts" - read my signature... i am a Greek struggling with my English, so you could use something more simple like "stupid/full/retard/etc".
About abortions: your argument is like arguing "whether it's a good idea to empower the government to prevent murder" (of ANY type) - don't we *already* "empower the government to prevent murder"?
According to Secunia they, "frequently encounter organizations engaged in wrongful use of Secunia Advisories,"
According to Secunia: "The decision was made to avoid abuse of the advisories for commercial use, and because we frequently encounter organizations engaged in wrongful use of Secunia Advisories." - include that part also from the forum post and avoid much of the "Slashdot drama"...
Yes, Yahoo would have been a good target for Apple (and i believe it still is - i would not be surpised if someday i see an iYahoo).
[...] Yet killing a chimp is not considered "murder".
Perhaps it should be?
I will not answer your question (i am not even the one you replied to), but i think it would be the "insult" missing from the "injury" when we humans allow murdering other humans with abortions and call it pro-choice - note before down-mod: "pro-choice".... this ephemism is already "an insult added to injury"!
You have mixed up you objections with at least 2 legit issues: the method used to cause "frustration" to the mouse (which i thought to be "one of the less or even the least harmful" and one anonymous already replied confirming that) and if this experiment can reveal anything about "depression" (for which the fellow Slashdoter "sleepypsycho" answers very well) - i will give an answer about this 'torturing animals just because one particular subset of well-paid sadists can write it off as some debased form of "science"' you write: if you want to sadisticaly torture animals (i.e., just for the "fun"), you do it in the privacy of your home or somewhere else, but not in the lab - just before i wrote the comment you replied to, i wrote some other where i confess that i used to torture animals as a kid... in the lab, any torture is for science, not for "fun".
I know this kind of thing needs to be done. Still I find it repulsive from an emotional point of view.
Does it? Does it really?
I get research needing to test on animals but a test like this is not necessary. You can prove the same results using less harmful methods.
I believe that the method used may be one of the less or even the least harmful - keep in mind that for *this* experiment... some harmful method *must* be used... i think!
I know this kind of thing needs to be done. Still I find it repulsive from an emotional point of view.
I agree that this kind of things (i.e., experiments on animals) needs to be done, and, even as a hypocrite who has tortured animals just for "fun" as a kid, i understand how you feel - my hope is that we can use this emotional repulsiveness to better the lives of any animals we use as livestock (which are far more than animals we use for experiments and also tortured by our current livestock raising methods).
No, Apple isn't looking to buy it nor does the article that Soulskill linked even say that. Soulskill made up the claim entirely.
It's good that we have an older than i am Slashdoter like you writing how an "Apple should just buy DuckDuckGo" post become "Apple a top contender to buy DuckDuckGo"...
Apple may buy a search engine used by people who like privacy!
and different business units have different goals for this developer platform when it comes to sales and marketing
When you let sales and marketing drive technical decisions, brace for failure.
Years ago I worked for mini-computer maker Data General (a.k.a "Data Who"). One of the things that took down that company was the the engineers, architects and designers built amazing technology that was far ahead of anyone else. Then marketing would come in and say "Fantastic! Great Job! Now we just need you to remove this feature and that feature, because. as it is. this machine out preforms that bigger, older, more expensive system that we are already selling." Look where that company is now.
While your point is wise (and from experience, so i respect it even more) this "sales and marketing drive technical decisions" is unavoidable, plus not exactly correct in your example, since you could say that S&M respected R&D technical decisions (they even congratulated you!) but after that, what and how they wanted to sell it's their job, not yours - you may be right about the reason of the company's failures, but in many cases removing/delaying to release features is good *business* tactic (it happens all the time - "competing with yourself" is good for sports, but...).
Why would you need MS Office to communicate with others. That's what we have e-mail and phones and a number of other tools for. Using a Word document to communicate something generally gets ignored.
"Communicating" was just an example (it may also be a need from managment to connect Excel and DB), but even that is often done with reports (a form of "communication", like the Word document you mentioned).
Also, most people have evolved to be able to use more than just MSOffice, they can use LibreOffice, Google Docs etc.
That is why i wrote '(or better generally "office suite")', but "MS Office" is the standard.
If your HR drones fail to recognize the technological process since 2000, their performance needs reviewing.
And if DBA's fail to include in their resumes (or worse: use) "MS Office" (or better generally "office suite") in our current times... their performance needs reviewing!
If you are a Greek (like i am) you may want to use the word "[note: Slashdot failed to display this word typed in Unicode because it is Slashdot...]" for measuring the quality of any streaming music service - and similary for any other nationality (using some non-Greek, word of course!), with the exception of Americans/British people - there is a huge audience that will not be serviced by the usual streaming music services because those services stream only the usual USA/UK/etc stuff (that i also listen but are not my only or first choice)
Looking for "MS Office" (or better generally "office suite") on a resume for DBA's is o.k., since some/much of DBA's work inside an organization/business is other than "use that damn database you bought" directly, like for example indirectly "use that damn database you bought" by communicating with other (human) resources of that organization/business ABOUT "that damn database you bought" - so HR staff must make sure DBA's can perform both duties.
I congratulate you because you managed to make a "first post" about something which is both on-topic AND off-topic AS a creative criticism for the recent Slashdot "up(/down)-grade"...
That was a good interview in your link - very polite, but also insisting in the question (even if not answered it makes the point clear: the other guy does not answers the question!). By the way, i am Greek, i don't follow UK media much, but that reporter (Jeremy Paxman, as i read his name from the video) is one of my (few) favourite non-Greek reporters... i have watched some other interviews he made and i always found him polite but (bravely) persistent (you may have some criticism for him, especially if you are from UK, but i write it as someone who only watched him few times).
Many, many years ago, Sourceforge used to be not bad (or even good), plus until some years ago there were no good alternatives - then, some years ago (especially after DICE bought it), Sourceforge decided to make money with the worst possible way (especially since it was against the "spirit" of many/most projects/developers hosted there): by fraud (sure, i am bad with my English, but in Greek i would had call it... "fraud", plus -from the first definition of a dictionary- i quote: "deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.").
A fraudster (Sourceforge) can continue to commit his fraud as long as some people continue to trust him (because either they are ignorant of his fraud or forgive him) - we can inform those ignorant about Sourceforge's fraud (which are the majority of those who still trust it), and criticize those still trusting Sourceforge (especially after the latest incidents), but better not do it in a "questioning/interrogating" way, because it may appear that we also blame the victim (e.g., the fellow Slashdoter who as developer hosted his project there, but now informs us that he is leaving - yes he is also a victim, since Sourceforge abused his good faith as a developer and his project as lure for other victims).
And the (also uninformative, just a bit less...) blog post this article was based on: http://googlecloudplatform.blo...
I don't think a little pride in one's country is a problem. Just resist the urge to invade Poland because of it, and we're good ;)
I will NOT ask if some Polish blood flows inside you... one of my comments (about a week ago) - in my case, my Nationalism is a bit more than "a little pride in one's country [Greece]", but o.k., i will try to leave Poland out of it*!
* Why i made that promise? Now i have to redraw the "Great Greece" map...
Thanks for the link! That's pretty cool.
Usually many/(most?) Slashdoters are very "sensitive" with my (Greek) Nationalism - but to "people of history/language/culture/etc", who know about the Battle of Corinth, Latin quotes, Roman poets, etc, i am confident that i can respond with some "nationalistc way (between funny and serious)", without them reacting like... you know... the usual Slashdoter!
I always get Greece and Turkey confused. I think that's because they are mostly the same except that Greece is Muslim and Turkey is Christian and that's why they hate each other.
Even if our only difference between us Greeks and the Turks was that we are Christians and they are Muslims, i think you should try something that will clear up your "confusion" because you may end up like all those fellow Greek Christians (and Armenians/Assyrians/Kurds/etc) murdered by Turkish Muslims - a friendly advise from a Christian Greek Nationalist, for your own safety dear "confused anonymous".
There's also the fact that John Travolta starred in both Greece (with Olivia Newton John) and a turkey (Battlefield Earth).
Good jokes are good jokes, even when they are from assholes... and that was a realy good one!
Also: i am a racist/sexist Greek Nationalist! There is an -almost real, even if fake- "Greek" guy in the British royal family that... lets say that he says few things in an "un-diplomatic" way - so, yes, as long as real British (and/or almost real, even if fake "Greeks"!) exist in that family: God Save The Queen/King!
Love it. , .
Greeks and barbarians: a beautiful Italian lady (Sophia Loren) singing a beautiful Greek song ("I love you - what is this thing called love?") -in great Greek!-, from a more than 50 years old USA movie ("Boy on a Dolphin") shot in Greece!
Really? The HMRC in the UK is very quick at giving overpayments and corrections back - on a few occasions I have had cheques simply turn up without any requests or even knowing I was due one.
Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC) is THE ONLY goverment organization that after interacting with it i did not felt as raped - and it was about taking money from them... PLUS: i am a Greek - that i had to do some of my interactions with them by phone (i am terrible with writen English, and even worse when speaking them - they even offered me live translation services if i ever needed it!).
As a Greek Nationalist, i now must ask from you: please stand up for the national anthem!