We could get caugh up in theology debates like this for hours, but it would accomplish about as much as the Catholic Church has through the same process.
The point is that the conflict is resolved through the reality as _we_ perceive it. Sure, there's some "higher plane" or whatnot but the Average Joe just don't grok it. That and the "Source" can be traced to a specific point on the geographic plane, unlike within the Matrix in which the Source is controlled by the Machines.
There's a great post earlier as to why the Matrix-Within-A-Matrix idea is stupid. I agree with it. The story is over now, let's just pray the Watchowskis didn't take too many cues from Lucas and decide to tell more inane stories with even worse acting than Keanu in order to cash in on more money.
See, I understand WHAT but not HOW. The HOW he got that vision was generally attributed to his "foresight" which is simply assumed as mystic fact.
Anyways, my point is that it all comes down to Suspension of Disbelief, and if you (the audience, not you personally) can't grok that then why are you watching Science Fiction in the first place?
They don't say that. They say "The powers of the one extend beyond the Matrix." That makes sense. Assuming The Matrix is in the air (and as such hackable to the Freedom Fighters), Neo's expanded brain power (Ability to see beyond the Matrix) may very well enable him to connect with the Machines in general. Nobody really explained in Dune: Messiah why Paul could see when _he_ was blinded other than his "special" powers as Kwizatz Haderach, but nobody seemed to complain there....
Regardless of whether or not the one they show on the FRONT page is Caldera, it's still a Caldera article. Go ahead. look up. Look wayyyyy up. Now what do you see? OH! A Caldera symbol? Dear God No!
If you had Caldera blocked, this whole troll thread would have been avoided. What a pretty concept.
Because God forbid you filter so that Caldera topics don't come up on your front page.
There are those of us who are genuinely intrigued by this whole debacle. I'm personally already signed up for the SCO Roadshow, and I find every little bit of information useful here.
So if you don't want to hear about SCO, just don't read the articles. I'm certain there are enough articles kicking around slashdot that you don't absolutely need to read every single SCO-related one.
Heh. Here I was ready to make a snarky ass comment about my desktop uptime being somewhere around 60 days, and I realized that about 2 hours ago the power flickered off then on.
But what happens when you're at a computer that doesn't have Windows running? What happens when you download the latest version of Office and it doesn't handle older filetypes anywhere near as well as it should because companies like Microsoft don't give two shits about backwards compatibility? If we all bend over and grab our ankles and let Microsoft do whatever the hell they want to, then sooner or later we make our computers do what THEY want them to do instead of what WE want them to do.
http://www.openoffice.org/ Costs about as much as pirated software and it's legal too.
Not to mention handles Office files better than Office does in some cases.
Not to mention, Windows doesn't have any decent native firewalling or anti-virus software, nor does it come natively with any pop-up blockers (though Mozilla does).
And on top of that, Microsoft just more firmly shoves its fist up the anus of IT every time someone pirates their software, so you're doing more damage than good by pirating their software... How about supporting some open standards instead? It seriously costs just as much....
First, where did you get a copy of Linux 9? That's some pretty interesting insider work you got going and I'm sure even Linus would be surprised that you got a copy of that.
First of all, Linux is open source and SCO is not. So how can Linus developers see SCO's code besides using backing tools like decompilers?
Glad to see you've been paying attention.
IBM and SGI have access to SCO's code. What SCO's allegations are is that IBM (and if/when they sue SGI they'll say them too) has put SCO's code into linux. So there's a quite plausible way for the code to get into the kernel. Whether or not this involves malicious intent, who knows. Only IBM can really know it and if they are at fault, then so be it. However, SGI, who also has access to SCO's code, has stated that these allegations are shaky at best, and given SCO's consistent counterproductivity in getting this whole issue resolved already and their contradicting arguments and sound bytes upon sound bytes saying they never made the previous sound bytes (Darl McBride is doing an excellent job at munching on his foot) it looks like if they ever did have a leg to stand on, they've since lost it and can bloody well cope.
If they do things without any of SCO's help in an effort to show that they don't WANT to have this happen, they do everything in their power to help alleviate the situation and as such cut SCO's losses. Something SCO was supposed to do in the first place (called Mitigating your Losses).
SCO is being stupid. SGI mitigates their losses for them and SCO tells them it's not enough. THEN DO IT YOURSELF ALREADY! They're complaining like little 5 year olds who have dropped their ice cream cone. Someone buys them a new one and they complain that they wanted THE FIRST one.
Well tough shit. So far SCO has a fantastic case:
- Code they're not willing to point out to the public, but yet is going to be submitted as public evidence anyways, because otherwise they have ZERO case. - SGI acts of good faith to help mitigate losses that are met with "NOT ENOUGH!" - A plethora of public statements that contradict each other. - Accusing all Linux Users of violating their IP without a single shred of proof thus far. - Examples of code they've backpedalled and said more recently that they weren't examples of code they were talking specifically about. Especially since that code was proven, even though it was in System V, was NOT copywrited or owned by SCO at ALL.
All this is building a bigger and bigger case such that SCO is going to have a shitload of answering to do and that they stand no chance of making ANY money off of these lawsuits... and the only places they're going to make money are (do do do DOO) extortion.
So, a question for any/. lawyers out there: How exactly do we go about filing a class-action lawsuit against SCO? I was debating filing a small-claims case against them, as a linux user, for extortion, and if they show up, great, we'll get to see the code finally, and if not, then I win and get the article slashdotted (Not to mention I get a good $500 or so spending cash at the expense of our good friend Darl).
How plausible is this? I'm serious here. It's about time that we as such a large community (How many hits does slashdot get in a day?) take some action and show that corporate bullying is not a plausible tactic. We need to make SCO fall and fall HARD for their crimes THIS QUARTER before Darl gets praised for two back-to-back positive quarters and then sells all his stock just in time to watch SCO fall in a blaze from his kushy $500,000 summer home in Maine.
So, do I or anybody else have a case? Lawyers, please.... there's probably a good dot-com-like-boom to be had out of this for at least a couple months.
Compensating the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle with perl. Hrm.
Well, that explains why the Star Trek techies always respond with the Heisenberg compensation working "very nicely, thank you"... they can't READ the code!!!
The only thing you can really expect with more consistency on Slashdot than joke-bedraggling memesters is people who complain about joke-bedraggling memesters.
May you be trampled by 1000 AC's discussing how in Soviet Russia, YOU annoy slashdotters, all carrying ghetto blasters blaring Invasion of the Gabber Robots.
But this begs the question: Uh... what have they been doing lately to prevent it? It seems every day that we keep hearing about DOS attacks on them... For crying out loud... If it's broken, FIX IT!
No wonder they weren't making any money on their UNIX sales.
We could get caugh up in theology debates like this for hours, but it would accomplish about as much as the Catholic Church has through the same process.
The point is that the conflict is resolved through the reality as _we_ perceive it. Sure, there's some "higher plane" or whatnot but the Average Joe just don't grok it. That and the "Source" can be traced to a specific point on the geographic plane, unlike within the Matrix in which the Source is controlled by the Machines.
There's a great post earlier as to why the Matrix-Within-A-Matrix idea is stupid. I agree with it. The story is over now, let's just pray the Watchowskis didn't take too many cues from Lucas and decide to tell more inane stories with even worse acting than Keanu in order to cash in on more money.
See, I understand WHAT but not HOW. The HOW he got that vision was generally attributed to his "foresight" which is simply assumed as mystic fact.
Anyways, my point is that it all comes down to Suspension of Disbelief, and if you (the audience, not you personally) can't grok that then why are you watching Science Fiction in the first place?
They don't say that. They say "The powers of the one extend beyond the Matrix." That makes sense. Assuming The Matrix is in the air (and as such hackable to the Freedom Fighters), Neo's expanded brain power (Ability to see beyond the Matrix) may very well enable him to connect with the Machines in general. Nobody really explained in Dune: Messiah why Paul could see when _he_ was blinded other than his "special" powers as Kwizatz Haderach, but nobody seemed to complain there....
GunMEN. GunMEN. /me beats head into wall.
Attaway to "The Lone Gunman Are Dead" that one....
Glad to see everybody caught the joke. =)
I remember when I heard about a big samba patch on slashdot. About an hour after I had already patched it.
Microsoft is still behind. By the time you've heard about it it's already too late.
IE explorer, eh?
Is that anything like DOS Operating System or GPL license?
Or more like GNU's Not Unix?
Uh....
Smoke crack much?
It's under Caldera.
Regardless of whether or not the one they show on the FRONT page is Caldera, it's still a Caldera article. Go ahead. look up. Look wayyyyy up. Now what do you see? OH! A Caldera symbol? Dear God No!
If you had Caldera blocked, this whole troll thread would have been avoided. What a pretty concept.
Because God forbid you filter so that Caldera topics don't come up on your front page.
There are those of us who are genuinely intrigued by this whole debacle. I'm personally already signed up for the SCO Roadshow, and I find every little bit of information useful here.
So if you don't want to hear about SCO, just don't read the articles. I'm certain there are enough articles kicking around slashdot that you don't absolutely need to read every single SCO-related one.
So, like Synaptic?
Well... uh.... uh.... you can make make coffee from halfway across the world......
Heh. Here I was ready to make a snarky ass comment about my desktop uptime being somewhere around 60 days, and I realized that about 2 hours ago the power flickered off then on.
*sigh* Maybe I should go grab one. =)
How wonderfully anarchistic of you.
But what happens when you're at a computer that doesn't have Windows running? What happens when you download the latest version of Office and it doesn't handle older filetypes anywhere near as well as it should because companies like Microsoft don't give two shits about backwards compatibility? If we all bend over and grab our ankles and let Microsoft do whatever the hell they want to, then sooner or later we make our computers do what THEY want them to do instead of what WE want them to do.
Looks like it was pretty obvious that it was a joke.
It just wasn't funny.
But yet the 486 I bought 12 years ago still runs linux.
Funny that.
http://www.openoffice.org/
Costs about as much as pirated software and it's legal too.
Not to mention handles Office files better than Office does in some cases.
Not to mention, Windows doesn't have any decent native firewalling or anti-virus software, nor does it come natively with any pop-up blockers (though Mozilla does).
And on top of that, Microsoft just more firmly shoves its fist up the anus of IT every time someone pirates their software, so you're doing more damage than good by pirating their software... How about supporting some open standards instead? It seriously costs just as much....
How useful for the x86 platform. Read the write up next time how about, hmmm?
First, where did you get a copy of Linux 9? That's some pretty interesting insider work you got going and I'm sure even Linus would be surprised that you got a copy of that.
First of all, Linux is open source and SCO is not. So how can Linus developers see SCO's code besides using backing tools like decompilers?
Glad to see you've been paying attention.
IBM and SGI have access to SCO's code. What SCO's allegations are is that IBM (and if/when they sue SGI they'll say them too) has put SCO's code into linux. So there's a quite plausible way for the code to get into the kernel. Whether or not this involves malicious intent, who knows. Only IBM can really know it and if they are at fault, then so be it. However, SGI, who also has access to SCO's code, has stated that these allegations are shaky at best, and given SCO's consistent counterproductivity in getting this whole issue resolved already and their contradicting arguments and sound bytes upon sound bytes saying they never made the previous sound bytes (Darl McBride is doing an excellent job at munching on his foot) it looks like if they ever did have a leg to stand on, they've since lost it and can bloody well cope.
Good faith.
/. lawyers out there: How exactly do we go about filing a class-action lawsuit against SCO? I was debating filing a small-claims case against them, as a linux user, for extortion, and if they show up, great, we'll get to see the code finally, and if not, then I win and get the article slashdotted (Not to mention I get a good $500 or so spending cash at the expense of our good friend Darl).
If they do things without any of SCO's help in an effort to show that they don't WANT to have this happen, they do everything in their power to help alleviate the situation and as such cut SCO's losses. Something SCO was supposed to do in the first place (called Mitigating your Losses).
SCO is being stupid. SGI mitigates their losses for them and SCO tells them it's not enough. THEN DO IT YOURSELF ALREADY! They're complaining like little 5 year olds who have dropped their ice cream cone. Someone buys them a new one and they complain that they wanted THE FIRST one.
Well tough shit. So far SCO has a fantastic case:
- Code they're not willing to point out to the public, but yet is going to be submitted as public evidence anyways, because otherwise they have ZERO case.
- SGI acts of good faith to help mitigate losses that are met with "NOT ENOUGH!"
- A plethora of public statements that contradict each other.
- Accusing all Linux Users of violating their IP without a single shred of proof thus far.
- Examples of code they've backpedalled and said more recently that they weren't examples of code they were talking specifically about. Especially since that code was proven, even though it was in System V, was NOT copywrited or owned by SCO at ALL.
All this is building a bigger and bigger case such that SCO is going to have a shitload of answering to do and that they stand no chance of making ANY money off of these lawsuits... and the only places they're going to make money are (do do do DOO) extortion.
So, a question for any
How plausible is this? I'm serious here. It's about time that we as such a large community (How many hits does slashdot get in a day?) take some action and show that corporate bullying is not a plausible tactic. We need to make SCO fall and fall HARD for their crimes THIS QUARTER before Darl gets praised for two back-to-back positive quarters and then sells all his stock just in time to watch SCO fall in a blaze from his kushy $500,000 summer home in Maine.
So, do I or anybody else have a case? Lawyers, please.... there's probably a good dot-com-like-boom to be had out of this for at least a couple months.
Don't worry. It's slashdotted anyways so you won't be able to read it for another 12 hours or so anyways. =)
Compensating the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle with perl. Hrm.
Well, that explains why the Star Trek techies always respond with the Heisenberg compensation working "very nicely, thank you"... they can't READ the code!!!
The only thing you can really expect with more consistency on Slashdot than joke-bedraggling memesters is people who complain about joke-bedraggling memesters.
May you be trampled by 1000 AC's discussing how in Soviet Russia, YOU annoy slashdotters, all carrying ghetto blasters blaring Invasion of the Gabber Robots.
You don't think the answer here isn't presupposed?
(Semantic wars are fun, kids.)
But this begs the question: Uh... what have they been doing lately to prevent it? It seems every day that we keep hearing about DOS attacks on them... For crying out loud... If it's broken, FIX IT!
No wonder they weren't making any money on their UNIX sales.