You judge an entire group based on the attributes of a few individuals, but because you joke about it you aren't racist?
"A few individuals"? Stereotypes don't get created because of the actions of "a few individuals." (That's what we're talking about here, BTW--stereotypes, not "racism.") Stereotypes are created when one observes large numbers of individuals in a particular group acting/appearing a certain way.
Stereotypes are not in any way an invalid or distasteful way to view the world. In fact every human being on the planet (that includes you) uses stereotypes every single day to help guide his thoughts and actions. It's a subconscious thing. From a biological/survival point of view, stereotypes are an extremely useful feature, not a bug.
Let me give you an example of a race-related stereotype that proves its validity every single night when I hear a groups of LOUD ASSES walking past my tent raising hell. Guess what race they are, 100% of the time? That's right, they're black. The black people in question are from Georgia, and black people from the south are well known for their loud, rowdy behavior. Plenty of white folks walk past too, but rarely are they ever as disruptive as the black folks are.
If the shoe fits, wear the mother fucker instead of crying about "racism."
Well, your conjecture is wrong. Yes, there are many people who are bad at something and overrate their abilities. There are also many who are good at the same thing and underrate their abilities. There are also plenty of people who are bad and they know it, and plenty who are good and they know it.
I'm good at text messaging while driving, and I know that I'm good at it. I know there are a lot of dumb asses out there who can't manage it, and that's unfortunate. Those people should be pulled over and ticketed for driving unsafely. Instead the cops are too busy writing easy, bullshit tickets like speeding and seatbelt violations.
I am assuming here that you are a typical American who drives 30+ miles a day, 5-7 days a week, since
Yep! Actually, it's more like 60-70 miles a day, on average. Oh, and most of that is in a big ass, big block Cadillac that gets 15 MPG on a good day; that is, a day when I'm not lead footing it everywhere. (Rarely.) I don't have any catalytic converters on it either. And you know what? I don't give a fuck what you think about it.
Yeah but that approach is a one-way destination to eventual divorce. No woman (or man) wants to be married to a jerk that bosses her around like that. Yes I'm sure that approach succeeds in getting some wet-behind-the-knees girl into your bed, maybe even engaged for marriage, but you can't build a lifetime relationship on that "Me Man; Me tell you want to do" method. You only setup longterm failure.
What the fuck do you know about women? Not a god damn thing, apparently.
This is exactly what I've been talking about. You try to help somebody and they just throw it back in your face. You know what? Fuck you. Go out and learn the hard way.
I agree. In fact, I think the same should apply to legal drugs too. Can I see your license and registration? Oh, I see you have a bottle of Tylenol there. Go ahead and choke that down for me, will ya? Thanks.
What's your suggestion for lowering it without having them commit new crimes?
ooh, ooh! I got this one.
How about we QUIT MAKING THEM CRIMINALS in the first place, by repealing BULLSHIT LAWS like the ones that send people to prison over growing/smoking/selling a FUCKING PLANT?
I should apologize for advising people to build mutually empowering and beneficial long-term relationships instead of one night stands? I do have a good grasp on what the "emotional world" of the average guy looks like -- it's mostly a desolate wasteland of drinking buddies, hobbies that long ago lost their luster, and filled with cliched advice from so-called friends and coworkers. They're lucky if they've got that one guy-friend who they can be vulnerable to and trust not to rake their masculinity over the coals for doing so. The end result? When a man's heart breaks, it's not the quiet little death that us girls experience -- it's a suicidal plunge into darkness that takes years, sometimes decades, to repair. I've seen too many nice guys fall apart in the worst ways possible from a broken heart and never fully heal from it... and it's because of crap like what you're saying -- they try for years and years to fill that hole with sex, but it doesn't work and they feel miserable and long for a girl that'll respect and cherish them... But by the time they realize that, every woman in his life has run away for fear of being turned into a sex object. It's a stupid cycle of self-harm.
As the GP said, except more succinctly and less politely: shut the fuck up. You don't have the first clue what you're talking about.
When you start with the wrong premises, you draw the wrong conclusions. Your story is a classic example of a girl who does not understand women and thus draws the wrong conclusions. Let's take it from the top, shall we?
I recall a girl in college. Really cute and a very smart Bio major. Also a sorority girl so I figured I had scored on all fronts - beauty, brains, and sexy.
This is your first fuck up. You haven't scored until you've scored. What really happened: You got too enthusiastic and fixated on this one girl and you blew it.
We went out on a date and it was fantastic, with the night ending with a passionate goodnight kiss.
What really happened: you seemed cool at first so she agreed to go out on a date, but that's when things went wrong. She quickly figured out that you are insecure, clingy, boring, have bad breath, have no sense of fashion, or possess other negative qualities, and that ended her attraction for you. Passionate or not, the goodnight kiss was only out of politeness/lack of assertiveness, or because she felt pressured into it.
BUT I could never get a followup. First she told me "no" because her ex-boyfriend was coming to visit the next weekend.
When she has a boyfriend but doesn't mention him, that's a good sign. When she didn't mention the boyfriend to begin with and then brings him up after your first date as an excuse to not date you, that's when you know you fucked up. And once you've screwed yourself and put yourself into the friend zone, it's over. You're done.
Talk about shock, surprise, and pain.
Why would you feel shock, surprise, or pain to find out some random chick that you thought was interesting and barely know has a boyfriend? To me--and to her--and to anyone else who has a clue (i.e. most women)--that signals insecurity and clinginess. A secure male would not give a shit that she has a boyfriend since he knows he can give her what the boyfriend can't. Either that, or he would just find some other girl to date. Either way, at no point would shock, surprise, or pain enter into the equation.
But I brushed it aside and thought, "Well he's 300 miles way - not a real threat," but she turned me down three more times over the next few months.
What really happened here: You already totally fucked up your chances, but you kept trying and trying anyway, futher proving to this chick that you are clueless, desperate, and not boyfriend material.
Eventually I said, "I just asked you out during Christmas break when we have two weeks of freedom from classes. And you said "no" you're busy. You say no every time I ask you out.
Even though you had totally fucked up your chances long ago, you started off good here. You put her on the spot and made her account for her bullshit. Good move.
If you don't want to go out, please tell me. I'll just stop....."
But then you totally, royally fucked it up again.
At that point she interrupted, "But I do what to go out with you Jim!" "Really?When?"...and again....
"I don't know. Maybe in February..." "That's two months from now!"...and again.
Normally you should have never even gotten to this low, desperate point. But for the sake of argument let's assume you did, and then suddenly had a flash of intuition as to how you should start handling things in order to get her interested in you again. The conversation would go like this:
You: "Let's go out Saturday. I'll pick you up at 7."
Her: "No I can't, [I gotta do my nails/iron my clothes/etc]."
You: "You can put that off to some other day, can't you? I've asked you out several times over the past few months and you keep giving me excuses. I could go hang out with some other girl but I'd rather spend time with you. I'll be there at 7. See you then." *walks away*
^^^ You see what happened there? You were assertive. You didn't accept her bullshit and you didn't take no for answer.
Sometimes, all people need is to be shown why they are wrong.
Sometimes, yes, but rarely is it that simple. Most people's egos won't let them accept the possibility that they are wrong. Kudos to you for discovering your limitations and working to correct them. I too have Asperger's, and while mine is fairly mild it has still caused me enough grief. Actually, depite its challenges it could be argued that Asperger's is helpful in some ways when it comes to self-improvement, since one is more likely to think things through logically and act accordingly rather than rely on ego and emotion to guide one's choices.
Your point is well taken, and thanks, I appreciate seeing an actual intelligent reply to this thread instead of flames for a change. But here's why you're wrong:
I have discovered, through years of wasted effort trying to offer assistance and help to those in need, that most people simply don't want to be helped. They don't want to hear anything unless it agrees with their silly preconceptions. If you agree with somebody that they're not getting laid because women are bitches, you're their buddy, but the instant you suggest it might be because of they themselves are doing, they get all defensive and upset.
I have a lot to offer the world. Not only have I "been there and done that", but I've always had great insight into the human mind and how people work. I understand people, often much better than they understand themselves. I could help a lot of people out if they'd just put their egos aside for a minute and listen. When somebody wants to argue back against whatever I say, anything it takes to justify their own preconceptions, then fuck them. The gloves are off. I'll tell em exactly like it is and leave them to sort the shit out for themselves.
And you know what? That's exactly what these type of people need to hear. They've been coddled and petted and politely brushed off all of their lives and what good has it done them? It's not my place to be this guy's mommy. If he had a real dad instead of an overprotective mommy then he probably wouldn't have all these problems to begin with. I offered my man's perspective, which is exactly what he needs. He can take it or leave it. I really don't care either way because it's not my problem and not my responsibility to solve it.
Touched a nerve, didn't I? I have better things to do than to sit around and argue with some geek. It's readily apparent to anyone who meets you (or talks to you over the internet) that you are an insecure dweeb. If you don't want to listen to what I've already said, and take steps to improve yourself, fine--enjoy your shitty life.
You apparently failed to check the part of my post where I included the links showing an easier time getting ahead if other countries.
America is not about "easy." America has never been about "easy." It's about opportunity. Although I agree that there are plenty of other great countries out there besides just America, it's a fact that America has the most opportunity, and arguably the most freedom (freedom of speech, of the press, right to bear arms, protection against unreasonable searches and seizures, etc) out of any country.
I doubt you'll ever realize your disdain for socialism is motivated by greed. You don't want anyone, regardless of how difficult their situation is or how bad their luck is, to have any of your money.
The promise of America is freedom. Pure socialism, on the other hand, is slavery. Yes, some degree of socialism is necessary to make this a society that is pleasant to live in. Roads have to be built and schools have to be maintained. Furthermore I don't mind helping people who are genuinely down on their luck and need a helping hand. But you know what? It's funny how for every one person who is truly, genuinely just having bad luck, there are 10 more who are just along for the free ride, or who made terrible decisions throughout their life and now expect me to provide for them. Fuck those pieces of shit. Let em starve to death; we're better off without them.
When my hard earned money is being taken from me by force to provide for parasites, that is where I draw the line. Call it greed if you want, I don't give a fuck. I believe that a man who earns his money fair and square ought to be entitled to spend that money how he pleases, on whatever he pleases, without hordes of "have nots" screaming that he ought to give it all away to them.
Hey dumb ass, I'm an introvert so yes, I would say I know what I'm talking about. Being an introvert doesn't mean that you absolutely can't stand interaction with others. If that's the case, then you're an introvert who additionally has no social skills, and yes that is a problem. Deny it all you want, but it's the fucking truth.
True, but the fact is Americans are just plain lazy asses. You'll see people driving around for 10 minutes just so they can get a parking spot close to the entrance. I part towards the end of the lot on purpose. People ask me why, and look at me like I'm a retard when I say I enjoy the walk.
Perhaps teaching the value of work, and showing that his problems are his own fault instead of externalizing everything?
LOL, good luck with that. Kinda like the other story I posted in regarding introversion. I pointed out that most "introverts" are actually nerds with no social skills who'd rather blame everybody else for their problems rather than take active steps to improve themselves. Go read the replies to my post and you'll see exactly why what you suggested simply DOESN'T WORK. You can show somebody irrefutable, double blind, sound evidence that their problems are their own fault and they will still find a way to blame someone else. You just can't help this type of person--and I DAMN sure am not going to pay to take care of them.
.... Also I grew up on welfare. None of my family is on welfare anymore but it was a critical service when dad walked off and refused to pay child support......
But what really incensed me with your post was your assertion that people have an easier time getting ahead in America. BZZZT! Nice try the US is harder to advance out of poverty and it is getting harder all the time. For all our vaunted freedom you can move around in the middle class, but if you want to be an executive you really NEED be in the right class or society to get your funding or to land that job due to your uncle's connection. There are some people who manage to found a company and build it to that level, but what are we talking about one in ten million? I get better odds at the lottery.... Every company founder I personally have known has gotten kicked out when the company stabilized and an interm CEO (who gets along with the VC and board) has been appointed to manage the continued growth of the company. I have yet to personally meet someone who actually manages to fight off the wolves and make it past upper middle class. But hey, they exist, I mean we see them on TV.
I've heard a lot of "OMG America is SOOO tough to get ahead in" arguments but this one is the stupidest yet. Let's take it from the top, shall we?
First you rail against America, talking about how tough it is for poor people to escape poverty. Yet despite this, somehow your family managed to get off welfare? Huh.
Then you rant about how it's soooo tough to become a big powerful executive. That's funny, I was under the impression that most people in these mythical utopian European socialist paradises you dream about are not big powerful business executives either. Most of them are middle class, right?
Nice try comparing success in America to the lottery. LOL, no wonder dumb asses like you think it's SOO hard to make it in America. Success in America isn't about luck. The fact that you are in America and not some third world shithole is the part where you're lucky. From there, it's about hard work and taking advantage of opportunities. Even the poorest, most down in the dirt mother fucker in this country has opportunities, and that's more than 90% of the rest of the world can say. Unless you're a homeless quadraplegic, I don't fucking want to hear about how its impossible for you to help yourself. Of course, it's a hell of a lot easier to just sit back and whine and complain about how tough and mean this country is, instead of making an effort, now isn't it?
I grew up in a POS single wide mobile home in the middle of the woods in Alabama, so I'm no stranger to being poor. Most of my family had no motivation to make anything of themselves, and guess what? Most of them are still living the trailer trash lifestyle, and will continue to do so for the rest of their miserable lives. Meanwhile here I am at 25 years old making well into six figures, and I'm not done yet. By the time I'm 35 I'll be a multi millionaire--you can bet on it. You know how I got to where I am, and how I'll get to where I'm going? It's very simple. I don't listen and never have listened to retards like you who tell me that want I want is not possible or "too difficult." America is the land of opportunity, and if you are too stupid to recognize that then you deserve to remain poor and helpless.
That there shows you don't understand an introvert. You are clearly not an introvert so you are unable to understand why someone would find energy in being alone.
Really? That's funny, because I'd swear that I love being alone. I could be marooned on a big island somewhere by myself and truly not give a fuck. I love to sit at home alone and work on things without having to listen to anyone run their mouth. I don't let anyone spend the night at my house and I don't like spending too much time over at other people's houses, simply because I enjoy by privacy and solitude too much. A lot of times I will spend Friday or Saturday night alone at the house, not because of lack of things to do, but because I want to chill by myself in peace and quiet. I am an introvert, despite your ridiculous assertion to the contrary.
Yet unlike many of the idiots who have responded to my posts thus far, I actually took the time and effort to develop my social skills to the point that I can participate in and enjoy extroverted activities just as much as introverted ones. I know this concept is alien to socially mal-adjusted geeks who, in their ignorance and blindless, assume that a human either can't stand being around others, or can't stand being alone, but nothing in between. Regardless of how revolutionary or unlikely this fascinating new concept may sound to you, I recommend you look into the meaning of the phrase "well balanced individual" as it just might benefit you.
...and here we are with a perfect, shining example of exactly the type of person I'm talking about. I mean, I couldn't ask for a better example if I tried.
That's like saying... people that are not good at reading and spelling should go out and make their living writing books.
No, that's like saying people who are not good at reading and spelling should make an effort to learn and practice. I haven't met the first person who could learn reading and spelling (or social skills) by sitting on his ass and whining about tough it is. What, you thought life was supposed to be easy? LOL.
You know why you'll always be a loser?
Disappointment, rejection and failure are the only consequences out of this retarded advice.
^^ Because you have a negative fucking attitude. "Oh, if I go out and try to learn and improve then I'll just fail. I'll always fail, I'll never be anything. So I'll just sit at home and cry about how unfair life is."
in the end I'd rather stay an introvert with a few true friends than be that extroverted jackass again that gets laid, meets people and "does things" all while not realizing that all of it is meaningless pretend bullshit.
^^ Not to mention your irrational jealousy and hatred of those who actually do get it, those who are successful in ways that you will never allow yourself to be. Your insecurity is showing. It's typical, predictable, and sad.
P.S. your "few true friends"? LOL. They're just as weak as you are, and they'd fuck you over in a heartbeat if someone threatened them. You have a lot to learn about life.
After all, that "life" that you seem to promote so feverishly is mostly lead by people that neither care nor understand what the world is actually about and what matters.
^^ Along with rationalizations such as these, which are your pathetic attempt to convince yourself that it's actually your way of living that's the superior one and that everyone else's way is shallow and petty. Your conscious mind might be fooled by this nonsense, but your subconscious isn't, and neither is anyone you meet.
BTW, the statement you made above is truly ironic, and only serves to further underscore your stupidity, insecurity, and naivete.
but the important thing about turbochargers is that they increase power availability at high rpms, by providing more air.
Turbochargers increase power at ALL operational RPMs, yes. Diesels are still heavily RPM limited due to factors not at all related to air supply, and turbochargers do nothing to correct that.
I spent forty years listening to people like you. I went out, I socialized, met people, all that sort of thing. I never liked it. Everybody told me that I just needed practice and eventually I'd start to enjoy it. That never happened. I finally decided to ignore all that helpful advice and quit. Now I spend most of my time alone and I'm a much happier person.
Then you just might be part of the 10% of people I mentioned who are actually introverted, as opposed to the other 90% who claim they are since it's a lot easier to blame their unhappiness on introversion, rather than the actual reason, which is their poor social skills.
Aparently, he would much rather lead us to water than to let us sit at home and brood about life!
Not sure where you got the idea that I give a shit about any of the people I was addressing, but I don't, and nobody else does either. Nerdy, insecure weirdos are nerdy, insecure, and weird, which is why nobody wants to hang out with them. There is enough information out there on Google for each and every one of you to learn what it takes to fit in socially, make friends, influence people, and fuck the hottest chicks, if you only make the fucking effort to do what it takes. But since it's easier to just sit on your ass and cry, that's what 98% of you will end up doing, and I really don't give a shit either way.
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You judge an entire group based on the attributes of a few individuals, but because you joke about it you aren't racist?
"A few individuals"? Stereotypes don't get created because of the actions of "a few individuals." (That's what we're talking about here, BTW--stereotypes, not "racism.") Stereotypes are created when one observes large numbers of individuals in a particular group acting/appearing a certain way.
Stereotypes are not in any way an invalid or distasteful way to view the world. In fact every human being on the planet (that includes you) uses stereotypes every single day to help guide his thoughts and actions. It's a subconscious thing. From a biological/survival point of view, stereotypes are an extremely useful feature, not a bug.
Let me give you an example of a race-related stereotype that proves its validity every single night when I hear a groups of LOUD ASSES walking past my tent raising hell. Guess what race they are, 100% of the time? That's right, they're black. The black people in question are from Georgia, and black people from the south are well known for their loud, rowdy behavior. Plenty of white folks walk past too, but rarely are they ever as disruptive as the black folks are.
If the shoe fits, wear the mother fucker instead of crying about "racism."
Well, your conjecture is wrong. Yes, there are many people who are bad at something and overrate their abilities. There are also many who are good at the same thing and underrate their abilities. There are also plenty of people who are bad and they know it, and plenty who are good and they know it.
I'm good at text messaging while driving, and I know that I'm good at it. I know there are a lot of dumb asses out there who can't manage it, and that's unfortunate. Those people should be pulled over and ticketed for driving unsafely. Instead the cops are too busy writing easy, bullshit tickets like speeding and seatbelt violations.
What is your excuse for the other 29 days?
I don't need an excuse.
I am assuming here that you are a typical American who drives 30+ miles a day, 5-7 days a week, since
Yep! Actually, it's more like 60-70 miles a day, on average. Oh, and most of that is in a big ass, big block Cadillac that gets 15 MPG on a good day; that is, a day when I'm not lead footing it everywhere. (Rarely.) I don't have any catalytic converters on it either. And you know what? I don't give a fuck what you think about it.
Yeah but that approach is a one-way destination to eventual divorce. No woman (or man) wants to be married to a jerk that bosses her around like that. Yes I'm sure that approach succeeds in getting some wet-behind-the-knees girl into your bed, maybe even engaged for marriage, but you can't build a lifetime relationship on that "Me Man; Me tell you want to do" method. You only setup longterm failure.
What the fuck do you know about women? Not a god damn thing, apparently.
This is exactly what I've been talking about. You try to help somebody and they just throw it back in your face. You know what? Fuck you. Go out and learn the hard way.
I agree. In fact, I think the same should apply to legal drugs too. Can I see your license and registration? Oh, I see you have a bottle of Tylenol there. Go ahead and choke that down for me, will ya? Thanks.
Idiot.
What's your suggestion for lowering it without having them commit new crimes?
ooh, ooh! I got this one.
How about we QUIT MAKING THEM CRIMINALS in the first place, by repealing BULLSHIT LAWS like the ones that send people to prison over growing/smoking/selling a FUCKING PLANT?
I should apologize for advising people to build mutually empowering and beneficial long-term relationships instead of one night stands? I do have a good grasp on what the "emotional world" of the average guy looks like -- it's mostly a desolate wasteland of drinking buddies, hobbies that long ago lost their luster, and filled with cliched advice from so-called friends and coworkers. They're lucky if they've got that one guy-friend who they can be vulnerable to and trust not to rake their masculinity over the coals for doing so. The end result? When a man's heart breaks, it's not the quiet little death that us girls experience -- it's a suicidal plunge into darkness that takes years, sometimes decades, to repair. I've seen too many nice guys fall apart in the worst ways possible from a broken heart and never fully heal from it... and it's because of crap like what you're saying -- they try for years and years to fill that hole with sex, but it doesn't work and they feel miserable and long for a girl that'll respect and cherish them... But by the time they realize that, every woman in his life has run away for fear of being turned into a sex object. It's a stupid cycle of self-harm.
As the GP said, except more succinctly and less politely: shut the fuck up. You don't have the first clue what you're talking about.
When you start with the wrong premises, you draw the wrong conclusions. Your story is a classic example of a girl who does not understand women and thus draws the wrong conclusions. Let's take it from the top, shall we?
I recall a girl in college. Really cute and a very smart Bio major. Also a sorority girl so I figured I had scored on all fronts - beauty, brains, and sexy.
This is your first fuck up. You haven't scored until you've scored. What really happened: You got too enthusiastic and fixated on this one girl and you blew it.
We went out on a date and it was fantastic, with the night ending with a passionate goodnight kiss.
What really happened: you seemed cool at first so she agreed to go out on a date, but that's when things went wrong. She quickly figured out that you are insecure, clingy, boring, have bad breath, have no sense of fashion, or possess other negative qualities, and that ended her attraction for you. Passionate or not, the goodnight kiss was only out of politeness/lack of assertiveness, or because she felt pressured into it.
BUT I could never get a followup. First she told me "no" because her ex-boyfriend was coming to visit the next weekend.
When she has a boyfriend but doesn't mention him, that's a good sign. When she didn't mention the boyfriend to begin with and then brings him up after your first date as an excuse to not date you, that's when you know you fucked up. And once you've screwed yourself and put yourself into the friend zone, it's over. You're done.
Talk about shock, surprise, and pain.
Why would you feel shock, surprise, or pain to find out some random chick that you thought was interesting and barely know has a boyfriend? To me--and to her--and to anyone else who has a clue (i.e. most women)--that signals insecurity and clinginess. A secure male would not give a shit that she has a boyfriend since he knows he can give her what the boyfriend can't. Either that, or he would just find some other girl to date. Either way, at no point would shock, surprise, or pain enter into the equation.
But I brushed it aside and thought, "Well he's 300 miles way - not a real threat," but she turned me down three more times over the next few months.
What really happened here: You already totally fucked up your chances, but you kept trying and trying anyway, futher proving to this chick that you are clueless, desperate, and not boyfriend material.
Eventually I said, "I just asked you out during Christmas break when we have two weeks of freedom from classes. And you said "no" you're busy. You say no every time I ask you out.
Even though you had totally fucked up your chances long ago, you started off good here. You put her on the spot and made her account for her bullshit. Good move.
If you don't want to go out, please tell me. I'll just stop....."
But then you totally, royally fucked it up again.
At that point she interrupted, "But I do what to go out with you Jim!" "Really?When?" ...and again....
"I don't know. Maybe in February..." "That's two months from now!" ...and again.
Normally you should have never even gotten to this low, desperate point. But for the sake of argument let's assume you did, and then suddenly had a flash of intuition as to how you should start handling things in order to get her interested in you again. The conversation would go like this:
You: "Let's go out Saturday. I'll pick you up at 7."
Her: "No I can't, [I gotta do my nails/iron my clothes/etc]."
You: "You can put that off to some other day, can't you? I've asked you out several times over the past few months and you keep giving me excuses. I could go hang out with some other girl but I'd rather spend time with you. I'll be there at 7. See you then." *walks away*
^^^ You see what happened there? You were assertive. You didn't accept her bullshit and you didn't take no for answer.
Sometimes, all people need is to be shown why they are wrong.
Sometimes, yes, but rarely is it that simple. Most people's egos won't let them accept the possibility that they are wrong. Kudos to you for discovering your limitations and working to correct them. I too have Asperger's, and while mine is fairly mild it has still caused me enough grief. Actually, depite its challenges it could be argued that Asperger's is helpful in some ways when it comes to self-improvement, since one is more likely to think things through logically and act accordingly rather than rely on ego and emotion to guide one's choices.
Your point is well taken, and thanks, I appreciate seeing an actual intelligent reply to this thread instead of flames for a change. But here's why you're wrong:
I have discovered, through years of wasted effort trying to offer assistance and help to those in need, that most people simply don't want to be helped. They don't want to hear anything unless it agrees with their silly preconceptions. If you agree with somebody that they're not getting laid because women are bitches, you're their buddy, but the instant you suggest it might be because of they themselves are doing, they get all defensive and upset.
I have a lot to offer the world. Not only have I "been there and done that", but I've always had great insight into the human mind and how people work. I understand people, often much better than they understand themselves. I could help a lot of people out if they'd just put their egos aside for a minute and listen. When somebody wants to argue back against whatever I say, anything it takes to justify their own preconceptions, then fuck them. The gloves are off. I'll tell em exactly like it is and leave them to sort the shit out for themselves.
And you know what? That's exactly what these type of people need to hear. They've been coddled and petted and politely brushed off all of their lives and what good has it done them? It's not my place to be this guy's mommy. If he had a real dad instead of an overprotective mommy then he probably wouldn't have all these problems to begin with. I offered my man's perspective, which is exactly what he needs. He can take it or leave it. I really don't care either way because it's not my problem and not my responsibility to solve it.
LOL
Touched a nerve, didn't I? I have better things to do than to sit around and argue with some geek. It's readily apparent to anyone who meets you (or talks to you over the internet) that you are an insecure dweeb. If you don't want to listen to what I've already said, and take steps to improve yourself, fine--enjoy your shitty life.
You apparently failed to check the part of my post where I included the links showing an easier time getting ahead if other countries.
America is not about "easy." America has never been about "easy." It's about opportunity. Although I agree that there are plenty of other great countries out there besides just America, it's a fact that America has the most opportunity, and arguably the most freedom (freedom of speech, of the press, right to bear arms, protection against unreasonable searches and seizures, etc) out of any country.
I doubt you'll ever realize your disdain for socialism is motivated by greed. You don't want anyone, regardless of how difficult their situation is or how bad their luck is, to have any of your money.
The promise of America is freedom. Pure socialism, on the other hand, is slavery. Yes, some degree of socialism is necessary to make this a society that is pleasant to live in. Roads have to be built and schools have to be maintained. Furthermore I don't mind helping people who are genuinely down on their luck and need a helping hand. But you know what? It's funny how for every one person who is truly, genuinely just having bad luck, there are 10 more who are just along for the free ride, or who made terrible decisions throughout their life and now expect me to provide for them. Fuck those pieces of shit. Let em starve to death; we're better off without them.
When my hard earned money is being taken from me by force to provide for parasites, that is where I draw the line. Call it greed if you want, I don't give a fuck. I believe that a man who earns his money fair and square ought to be entitled to spend that money how he pleases, on whatever he pleases, without hordes of "have nots" screaming that he ought to give it all away to them.
Estimated price without credit: $780
LOL. Thanks, but no thanks.
Hey dumb ass, I'm an introvert so yes, I would say I know what I'm talking about. Being an introvert doesn't mean that you absolutely can't stand interaction with others. If that's the case, then you're an introvert who additionally has no social skills, and yes that is a problem. Deny it all you want, but it's the fucking truth.
True, but the fact is Americans are just plain lazy asses. You'll see people driving around for 10 minutes just so they can get a parking spot close to the entrance. I part towards the end of the lot on purpose. People ask me why, and look at me like I'm a retard when I say I enjoy the walk.
Perhaps teaching the value of work, and showing that his problems are his own fault instead of externalizing everything?
LOL, good luck with that. Kinda like the other story I posted in regarding introversion. I pointed out that most "introverts" are actually nerds with no social skills who'd rather blame everybody else for their problems rather than take active steps to improve themselves. Go read the replies to my post and you'll see exactly why what you suggested simply DOESN'T WORK. You can show somebody irrefutable, double blind, sound evidence that their problems are their own fault and they will still find a way to blame someone else. You just can't help this type of person--and I DAMN sure am not going to pay to take care of them.
Except the GP wasn't talking about retards, he was talking about idiots. There is a difference.
.... Also I grew up on welfare. None of my family is on welfare anymore but it was a critical service when dad walked off and refused to pay child support. .....
But what really incensed me with your post was your assertion that people have an easier time getting ahead in America. BZZZT! Nice try the US is harder to advance out of poverty and it is getting harder all the time. For all our vaunted freedom you can move around in the middle class, but if you want to be an executive you really NEED be in the right class or society to get your funding or to land that job due to your uncle's connection. There are some people who manage to found a company and build it to that level, but what are we talking about one in ten million? I get better odds at the lottery.... Every company founder I personally have known has gotten kicked out when the company stabilized and an interm CEO (who gets along with the VC and board) has been appointed to manage the continued growth of the company. I have yet to personally meet someone who actually manages to fight off the wolves and make it past upper middle class. But hey, they exist, I mean we see them on TV.
I've heard a lot of "OMG America is SOOO tough to get ahead in" arguments but this one is the stupidest yet. Let's take it from the top, shall we?
First you rail against America, talking about how tough it is for poor people to escape poverty. Yet despite this, somehow your family managed to get off welfare? Huh.
Then you rant about how it's soooo tough to become a big powerful executive. That's funny, I was under the impression that most people in these mythical utopian European socialist paradises you dream about are not big powerful business executives either. Most of them are middle class, right?
Nice try comparing success in America to the lottery. LOL, no wonder dumb asses like you think it's SOO hard to make it in America. Success in America isn't about luck. The fact that you are in America and not some third world shithole is the part where you're lucky. From there, it's about hard work and taking advantage of opportunities. Even the poorest, most down in the dirt mother fucker in this country has opportunities, and that's more than 90% of the rest of the world can say. Unless you're a homeless quadraplegic, I don't fucking want to hear about how its impossible for you to help yourself. Of course, it's a hell of a lot easier to just sit back and whine and complain about how tough and mean this country is, instead of making an effort, now isn't it?
I grew up in a POS single wide mobile home in the middle of the woods in Alabama, so I'm no stranger to being poor. Most of my family had no motivation to make anything of themselves, and guess what? Most of them are still living the trailer trash lifestyle, and will continue to do so for the rest of their miserable lives. Meanwhile here I am at 25 years old making well into six figures, and I'm not done yet. By the time I'm 35 I'll be a multi millionaire--you can bet on it. You know how I got to where I am, and how I'll get to where I'm going? It's very simple. I don't listen and never have listened to retards like you who tell me that want I want is not possible or "too difficult." America is the land of opportunity, and if you are too stupid to recognize that then you deserve to remain poor and helpless.
That there shows you don't understand an introvert. You are clearly not an introvert so you are unable to understand why someone would find energy in being alone.
Really? That's funny, because I'd swear that I love being alone. I could be marooned on a big island somewhere by myself and truly not give a fuck. I love to sit at home alone and work on things without having to listen to anyone run their mouth. I don't let anyone spend the night at my house and I don't like spending too much time over at other people's houses, simply because I enjoy by privacy and solitude too much. A lot of times I will spend Friday or Saturday night alone at the house, not because of lack of things to do, but because I want to chill by myself in peace and quiet. I am an introvert, despite your ridiculous assertion to the contrary.
Yet unlike many of the idiots who have responded to my posts thus far, I actually took the time and effort to develop my social skills to the point that I can participate in and enjoy extroverted activities just as much as introverted ones. I know this concept is alien to socially mal-adjusted geeks who, in their ignorance and blindless, assume that a human either can't stand being around others, or can't stand being alone, but nothing in between. Regardless of how revolutionary or unlikely this fascinating new concept may sound to you, I recommend you look into the meaning of the phrase "well balanced individual" as it just might benefit you.
...and here we are with a perfect, shining example of exactly the type of person I'm talking about. I mean, I couldn't ask for a better example if I tried.
That's like saying ... people that are not good at reading and spelling should go out and make their living writing books.
No, that's like saying people who are not good at reading and spelling should make an effort to learn and practice. I haven't met the first person who could learn reading and spelling (or social skills) by sitting on his ass and whining about tough it is. What, you thought life was supposed to be easy? LOL.
You know why you'll always be a loser?
Disappointment, rejection and failure are the only consequences out of this retarded advice.
^^ Because you have a negative fucking attitude. "Oh, if I go out and try to learn and improve then I'll just fail. I'll always fail, I'll never be anything. So I'll just sit at home and cry about how unfair life is."
in the end I'd rather stay an introvert with a few true friends than be that extroverted jackass again that gets laid, meets people and "does things" all while not realizing that all of it is meaningless pretend bullshit.
^^ Not to mention your irrational jealousy and hatred of those who actually do get it, those who are successful in ways that you will never allow yourself to be. Your insecurity is showing. It's typical, predictable, and sad.
P.S. your "few true friends"? LOL. They're just as weak as you are, and they'd fuck you over in a heartbeat if someone threatened them. You have a lot to learn about life.
After all, that "life" that you seem to promote so feverishly is mostly lead by people that neither care nor understand what the world is actually about and what matters.
^^ Along with rationalizations such as these, which are your pathetic attempt to convince yourself that it's actually your way of living that's the superior one and that everyone else's way is shallow and petty. Your conscious mind might be fooled by this nonsense, but your subconscious isn't, and neither is anyone you meet.
BTW, the statement you made above is truly ironic, and only serves to further underscore your stupidity, insecurity, and naivete.
but the important thing about turbochargers is that they increase power availability at high rpms, by providing more air.
Turbochargers increase power at ALL operational RPMs, yes. Diesels are still heavily RPM limited due to factors not at all related to air supply, and turbochargers do nothing to correct that.
I hear those black hole's are pretty loose
Racist!
I spent forty years listening to people like you. I went out, I socialized, met people, all that sort of thing. I never liked it. Everybody told me that I just needed practice and eventually I'd start to enjoy it. That never happened. I finally decided to ignore all that helpful advice and quit. Now I spend most of my time alone and I'm a much happier person.
Then you just might be part of the 10% of people I mentioned who are actually introverted, as opposed to the other 90% who claim they are since it's a lot easier to blame their unhappiness on introversion, rather than the actual reason, which is their poor social skills.
Aparently, he would much rather lead us to water than to let us sit at home and brood about life!
Not sure where you got the idea that I give a shit about any of the people I was addressing, but I don't, and nobody else does either. Nerdy, insecure weirdos are nerdy, insecure, and weird, which is why nobody wants to hang out with them. There is enough information out there on Google for each and every one of you to learn what it takes to fit in socially, make friends, influence people, and fuck the hottest chicks, if you only make the fucking effort to do what it takes. But since it's easier to just sit on your ass and cry, that's what 98% of you will end up doing, and I really don't give a shit either way.