Maybe I should have used the term AutoCad"-like" or "-esque." I mean visual design tools in general. There's a ton of design problems which could be solved much more effectively with properly designed touch-based interfaces.
Since when does getting elected as President have anything to do with being smart? Political connections
You just answered your own question.
You do know there is a large and significant portion of our brain dedicated to social skills? Obviously these skills (SMARTS) vary from person to person.
And the argument I'm making is that people would be pretty damn stupid to believe that the entire government of Iran, let alone any individual in it, is "insane." No, they're quite sane.
All the market is waiting for right now is a company to come along with something better than Android (which isn't hard), and they will sweep up the "open" phone segment.
I find Google Wallet a little bit more "friendly" to the user. PayPal, which I've used for years and years, has become more and more, how should I say - arrogant
Yes--arrogant in exactly the same way as Google is being right now.
. Beat match a few songs, mix them with a few beats of your own... 2. Crop out 1:33.17 to 5:47.61 from a video, and then overlay some 3D CGI animation on it... 3. Design a poster for a local fair of 50 companies/organizations/businesses using their logos...
The day is soon coming (within 10 years) when you will be able to do ALL of those better and more productively on a touch screen device. The problem now is the software just isn't there yet. It's coming though.
Microsoft is a big company with a lot of leverage in certain key areas these days, not the least of which is gaming.
Guess what happens when Microsoft starts leveraging its HUGE existing Xbox and PC developer base to develop for the Windows 8 Mobile devices? Why the hell would you, as a hip teenager, buy an Android device if you could get an array of Xbox360-level games on a Win8 Mobile device, as well as tons of other stuff ported/written by the huge droves of people who will flock to a platform you can develop for without having to use fucking JAVA?
The only one who can stop them is Apple, so that's why Microsoft is RUSHING to get this Windows 8 thing in high gear and get the developers on it as quickly as possible. I daresay they may succeed.
I reserve judgment til I see the final product. I'm betting Microsoft knows or suspects this interface is kinda clunky, and it putting it out there to see how the world reacts. There's still a chance some changes will be made before release. Personally, my overall impression was negative. It was too confusing.
No, they are most certainly not a fad. It's just the technology is still in its infancy and there is a ton of development left to be done before this technology is as truly usable as is promised. It's going to be killer for sure.
Today we are basically reliving 1990 all over again, in terms of the state of today's mobile market compared to the PC market then. There is a lot of opportunity out there for people to try new and bold things.
These belong to specific genres of games (social and casual gaming) that don't tend to be I/O intensive
Which are by and large the most important majority of the market.
The ever-increasing speeds of computers makes any "too resource intensive" argument fall flat. What is impossible today will be commonplace a few years down the road.
World of Warcraft is another "most popular" game for which the mobile platform is inadequate.
Because it was designed for a mouse and keyboard. The graphics certainly aren't flashy enough to keep it from running on a tablet. It just might be awkward to use because it wasn't designed for a touch screen.
In other words, a neutered PC with the usual hardware that costs more than a PC with the usual hardware. And it'll have an additional mode of failure, the smart phone/pad.
Correct, which is why the GP is wrong. The future "PC" will be more like a flat screen TV hanging on the wall that you walk up to and start interacting with. The invention of sensing technology that doesn't require you to actually TOUCH it, as well as enabling more complex gestures, combined with very accurate speech recognition, will basically spell the true end of the PC era. The mobile version of the same device is a present-day tablet or smart phone which has more limited versions of some of the same apps, as well as other apps which make sense in that particular platform.
This is the future, and we are building it now.
While there is a small market for dumb terminals, anyone who has tried to make them for the masses and/or general business got burned badly.
Regardless of what happened in the past, the *future* market for dumb terminals is HUGE. When processing power becomes largely irrelevant, as it's becoming, then the attention turns to cost cutting. You will be able to stamp out 100,000 dumb terminals, which require far less power and maintenance, and far cheaper and easier to deal with than 100,000 full featured, self contained micro devices. IT man (the only one at this company) takes it out of the box, plugs it in, turns it on, walk away. Maybe in the process scans it past some kind of automated RFID tool/scanner (tablet-like device) to "provision" it, or select an employee to "assign" it to.
The microcomputer era, in the business world at least, is coming to an end.
The one key enabling technology preventing this is the development of a good and powerful "web" platform that doesn't suck, i.e. NOT HTTP/HTML/AJAX/CSS/JS/WTF/OVR.
...what do you think's going to happen when SolidWorks (or more likely, a startup competitor) comes out with a version designed for a touch screen interface? Or AutoCad, or a hundred other applications which could actually be 10x better on a touch screen than mouse/keyboard, when properly designed?
It takes your program folder, then renames it, to Programs.old, then installs the Windows 8 OS. Everything on your computer is busted up. Your option is to reinstall your old system from scratch.
Being more than a little pissed,
At your own foolishness, I suppose?
Windows 8 was very easy for me to uninstall. I just deleted the VM.
One can only hope that their love for power, money, position, and breathing are more important than whatever crazy nutball religious idea is currently passing behind their eyeballs.
Though I have heard that it is all just a big political act to keep the religious hardliners in the public and positions of power happy and contented, and that action isn't really all that likely.
DUH
Question is how much faith are you willing to put into all of that considering the consequences.
Why rely on faith, when you can have knowledge, from personal experience of how humans work?
Not much if any more than they do now, considering game engine development is a fixed cost. The only reason game engines become "obsolete" is because technology advances. There's nothing stopping someone from taking the Quake 3 engine today and making a game from it, only concentrating on the game/storyline, and not having to worry (much) about the 3d engine stuff.
What the hell else did he expect? You can't make demands on open source. If you want something done, you can (A) offer money, or (B) do it yourself. This isn't an insult to anybody; this is simply reality.
As you touched upon, the whole purpose of doing things and giving them away "free" is to flatter one's ego (stating factually, not judging) which has a need to feel as if one is contributing to society. And yet our ego also tends to become defensive at criticism, shouting things like "well if you don't like it do it yourself!" if anyone has the audacity to mention a way in which our contribution is helpful, but could even be further improved. This is because acknowledging that the other person may be right, would imply to our fragile little ego that it might be WRONG, and it just can't accept that.
So is the problem the person making the feature request...or the developer who is so wrapped up in himself he can't be bothered to listen to or accept another person's ideas? Quite an egotistical position to take indeed, especially considering all of "his" ideas aren't HIS to begin with; they are merely his (in many cases, quite unoriginal) interpretations of ideas already held and propagated through society. There are 7 billion more interpretations where his came from.
The stupidest part of this very commonly-held mindset is that it's self defeating. People spend so much time clinging to mediocrity that they are unable to do anything great. They reject all conscious ideas which originate from anything other than their own thought processes, rather than have to face some negative ones while at the same time accepting good ones and turning them to their own advantage. They doom themselves to failure in the marketplace and at life, sinking into obscurity as their names are buried in history.
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.....and hug you and squeeze you, pet you and love you, and I will call you George.
Maybe I should have used the term AutoCad"-like" or "-esque." I mean visual design tools in general. There's a ton of design problems which could be solved much more effectively with properly designed touch-based interfaces.
Since when does getting elected as President have anything to do with being smart? Political connections
You just answered your own question.
You do know there is a large and significant portion of our brain dedicated to social skills? Obviously these skills (SMARTS) vary from person to person.
And the argument I'm making is that people would be pretty damn stupid to believe that the entire government of Iran, let alone any individual in it, is "insane." No, they're quite sane.
Sounds more like your lack of imagination speaking
Like our politicians with the Constitution, they wiped their asses with it when the scent of money wafted through.
I agree 100%
Insightful
All the market is waiting for right now is a company to come along with something better than Android (which isn't hard), and they will sweep up the "open" phone segment.
I find Google Wallet a little bit more "friendly" to the user. PayPal, which I've used for years and years, has become more and more, how should I say - arrogant
Yes--arrogant in exactly the same way as Google is being right now.
Google is evil.
. Beat match a few songs, mix them with a few beats of your own...
2. Crop out 1:33.17 to 5:47.61 from a video, and then overlay some 3D CGI animation on it...
3. Design a poster for a local fair of 50 companies/organizations/businesses using their logos...
The day is soon coming (within 10 years) when you will be able to do ALL of those better and more productively on a touch screen device. The problem now is the software just isn't there yet. It's coming though.
Microsoft is a big company with a lot of leverage in certain key areas these days, not the least of which is gaming.
Guess what happens when Microsoft starts leveraging its HUGE existing Xbox and PC developer base to develop for the Windows 8 Mobile devices? Why the hell would you, as a hip teenager, buy an Android device if you could get an array of Xbox360-level games on a Win8 Mobile device, as well as tons of other stuff ported/written by the huge droves of people who will flock to a platform you can develop for without having to use fucking JAVA?
The only one who can stop them is Apple, so that's why Microsoft is RUSHING to get this Windows 8 thing in high gear and get the developers on it as quickly as possible. I daresay they may succeed.
I reserve judgment til I see the final product. I'm betting Microsoft knows or suspects this interface is kinda clunky, and it putting it out there to see how the world reacts. There's still a chance some changes will be made before release. Personally, my overall impression was negative. It was too confusing.
Actually more like 1980-1985 in some ways.
No, they are most certainly not a fad. It's just the technology is still in its infancy and there is a ton of development left to be done before this technology is as truly usable as is promised. It's going to be killer for sure.
Today we are basically reliving 1990 all over again, in terms of the state of today's mobile market compared to the PC market then. There is a lot of opportunity out there for people to try new and bold things.
These belong to specific genres of games (social and casual gaming) that don't tend to be I/O intensive
Which are by and large the most important majority of the market.
The ever-increasing speeds of computers makes any "too resource intensive" argument fall flat. What is impossible today will be commonplace a few years down the road.
World of Warcraft is another "most popular" game for which the mobile platform is inadequate.
Because it was designed for a mouse and keyboard. The graphics certainly aren't flashy enough to keep it from running on a tablet. It just might be awkward to use because it wasn't designed for a touch screen.
In other words, a neutered PC with the usual hardware that costs more than a PC with the usual hardware. And it'll have an additional mode of failure, the smart phone/pad.
Correct, which is why the GP is wrong. The future "PC" will be more like a flat screen TV hanging on the wall that you walk up to and start interacting with. The invention of sensing technology that doesn't require you to actually TOUCH it, as well as enabling more complex gestures, combined with very accurate speech recognition, will basically spell the true end of the PC era. The mobile version of the same device is a present-day tablet or smart phone which has more limited versions of some of the same apps, as well as other apps which make sense in that particular platform.
This is the future, and we are building it now.
While there is a small market for dumb terminals, anyone who has tried to make them for the masses and/or general business got burned badly.
Regardless of what happened in the past, the *future* market for dumb terminals is HUGE. When processing power becomes largely irrelevant, as it's becoming, then the attention turns to cost cutting. You will be able to stamp out 100,000 dumb terminals, which require far less power and maintenance, and far cheaper and easier to deal with than 100,000 full featured, self contained micro devices. IT man (the only one at this company) takes it out of the box, plugs it in, turns it on, walk away. Maybe in the process scans it past some kind of automated RFID tool/scanner (tablet-like device) to "provision" it, or select an employee to "assign" it to.
The microcomputer era, in the business world at least, is coming to an end.
The one key enabling technology preventing this is the development of a good and powerful "web" platform that doesn't suck, i.e. NOT HTTP/HTML/AJAX/CSS/JS/WTF/OVR.
...what do you think's going to happen when SolidWorks (or more likely, a startup competitor) comes out with a version designed for a touch screen interface? Or AutoCad, or a hundred other applications which could actually be 10x better on a touch screen than mouse/keyboard, when properly designed?
It takes your program folder, then renames it, to Programs.old, then installs the Windows 8 OS. Everything on your computer is busted up. Your option is to reinstall your old system from scratch.
Being more than a little pissed,
At your own foolishness, I suppose?
Windows 8 was very easy for me to uninstall. I just deleted the VM.
My Model M is full of enough marijuana crumbs to get an elephant high.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm in the middle of rolling this blunt.
Fiction referred to books before it referred to movies
One can only hope that their love for power, money, position, and breathing are more important than whatever crazy nutball religious idea is currently passing behind their eyeballs.
Though I have heard that it is all just a big political act to keep the religious hardliners in the public and positions of power happy and contented, and that action isn't really all that likely.
DUH
Question is how much faith are you willing to put into all of that considering the consequences.
Why rely on faith, when you can have knowledge, from personal experience of how humans work?
So by that definition you are admitting you are dumber than G. W. Bush?
If you think you are smart and capable enough to become President of the United States, then by all means, the world is waiting for you kid.
Just because Bush makes verbal gaffes and believes some things others believe to be wrong, doesn't mean he's stupid.
Then you're a moron
Not much if any more than they do now, considering game engine development is a fixed cost. The only reason game engines become "obsolete" is because technology advances. There's nothing stopping someone from taking the Quake 3 engine today and making a game from it, only concentrating on the game/storyline, and not having to worry (much) about the 3d engine stuff.
What the hell else did he expect? You can't make demands on open source. If you want something done, you can (A) offer money, or (B) do it yourself. This isn't an insult to anybody; this is simply reality.
As you touched upon, the whole purpose of doing things and giving them away "free" is to flatter one's ego (stating factually, not judging) which has a need to feel as if one is contributing to society. And yet our ego also tends to become defensive at criticism, shouting things like "well if you don't like it do it yourself!" if anyone has the audacity to mention a way in which our contribution is helpful, but could even be further improved. This is because acknowledging that the other person may be right, would imply to our fragile little ego that it might be WRONG, and it just can't accept that.
So is the problem the person making the feature request...or the developer who is so wrapped up in himself he can't be bothered to listen to or accept another person's ideas? Quite an egotistical position to take indeed, especially considering all of "his" ideas aren't HIS to begin with; they are merely his (in many cases, quite unoriginal) interpretations of ideas already held and propagated through society. There are 7 billion more interpretations where his came from.
The stupidest part of this very commonly-held mindset is that it's self defeating. People spend so much time clinging to mediocrity that they are unable to do anything great. They reject all conscious ideas which originate from anything other than their own thought processes, rather than have to face some negative ones while at the same time accepting good ones and turning them to their own advantage. They doom themselves to failure in the marketplace and at life, sinking into obscurity as their names are buried in history.
Agreed