Here's a thought. Maybe we could start manufacturing the stuff HERE instead of the far east and have companion recycling/recovery facilities here as well, instead of shipping it BACK to the far east to be irresponsibly dealt with.
Ok, I'll bite. Why should they? Caveat Emptor. You as a parent bought something without knowing what it was. That is YOUR fault. We collectively decided that certain things were not acceptable in our marketplaces and created things like the FDA to be watchdogs for violations of those standards, but ultimately its the parent's responsibility for what a kid has, be it regarding toxicity or stupidity.
From my perspective, everyone's right to be an idiot ENDS when I've told them not to do XYZ 7 times and they decide to do XYZ at 4:30pm on a Friday, knowing full well that every time they do that I have to work until 3am to freakin fix it while they get to take the rest of the day off.
This is the point where being an idiot becomes justifiable homocide.
I think the family should also be able to file a lawsuit against the idiots that started the mess (the asshole passangers) and the Airmarshals that backed them up instead of telling them to grow the fuck up and use the grey squishy thing between their ears.
News Alert - 2008/09/22 - A/V is not keeping up It has become apparent that reliance on Anti-virus software for protection against spam bots is increasingly ineffective, and is reaching "disaster" status.
A large non-profit security organization has recently reported that only 23% of the 30,000 "unique" infections they see per day are detected by _any_ of 35 of the most popular A/V products, and percentage only reaches 50% after the infections have been in the wild for a month. And this includes well-known long standing botnets like Srizbi or Storm.
Many of our correspondants have told us that they've run a whole battery of A/V products on an infected machine that are provably infected with a known bot (by the email they emit), and not found anything.
Given the failure of A/V to help identify/eradicate infections, we can only continue to assert that the best way to prevent bot emission (and CBL detection) is to secure your networks so that ONLY mail servers can send email to the Internet.
Spam bots are out-pacing AV software by leaps and bounds.
Yeah, good luck catching rootkits with an online scanner. If you can even get to one once the malware takes over your network stack.
And is that router of yours just a Linksys NAT router or a real UTP device?
Spend a few years fighting this stuff pretty much full time and you'll see how foolish your assumptions are about both the ability of this stuff to find a way into your system, and your ability to detect it and kill it once its there.
My father did the same (as did all my uncles) without ever being in a union, he was a high school grad who did a stint in the Army before settling down to raise a family. Mom never worked, hell she doesn't even have a driver's license. As you say yourself, anecdotes prove nothing, mine or yours.
The fact is that it IS a different world. Who do you honestly know that can expect (or even WANT to) spend 35 years with the same company these days?
I don't know what the big underlaying thing is that changed it all, maybe it was when a college degree started to be seen as the new high school diploma, but back then you could DEFINATELY live the "Leave it to Beaver" life without having a union job.
Business folk need to get the fuck over themselves. When you're on the road you have a responsibility to everyone on it. Your job doesn't change that, no matter how important you think you are.
In my experience, it's generally OTHER people who think they are so fucking important that I need to take their call at any time, even if I'm driving. Often they are just full of shit, and sometimes there is an actual emergency that needs fast attention. Either way, if I don't take their call a few times they are likely going to dump us for another company that will, most private sector businesses seem to have this mindset.
Everything you put into SS is payed back to you (on average) within 2 to 3 years. Researchers interviewed retirees and asked them how long they thought it took to get everything back that they had put in, most said 20-30! years.
They were all pretty shocked when they were told the reality of the system.
Jenny McCarthy may not know what causes autism, but let's not forget that neither do doctors.
Possibly, however doctors and scientists tend to have stricter standards of proof than "making shit up" or "google searching". Read the site I linked and ask yourself why the media gives this woman a pulpit to preach from. She didn't know vaccines are made with viruses in them and thinks this is a bad thing, she has no knowledge of the subject matter. Her ignorance is so astounding it almost seems to be a form of criminal negligence to put her in front of a camera to spout off about something she obviously knows nothing about, yet has a huge following of stupid people following her.
These people are going to listen to her stupidity, not get their kids vaccinated, they will get sick with something that used to be rare or unheardof due to vaccines. That will mutate and infect ME, since my vaccine-created immunity won't be effective against a mutant strain. At that point I think I'd be justified in taking a baseball bat to any parent who would rather have their kid be a petri dish for the next black plague than get a vaccine.
Unless some unvaccinated kid gets the mumps and it mutates, pathogens tend to do that sort of thing you know, into something that is able to bypass the immunity of those vaccinated. Then you have a potentially serious issue, especially if the new mutation has a high rate of fatality.
The issue is that allowing a pathogen, such as the mumps, to have a breeding ground by not having vaccine-induced immunity casues you to run the risk of it potentially mutating into something much more serious, possibly even potentially fatal, AND able to get around the immunity of those who were vaccinated against the original strain.
I keep hearing this, and it is really off base. If you give a pathogen a place to breed it may mutate into something that can bypass vaccince-created immunity.
So as much as you are gambling that you won't get infected because 80% of others have had the vaccine, those 80% are gambling on YOUR lack of immunity rendering their own immunity null and void if you give the pathogen a place to mutate.
The unvaccinated pose a greater danger to the general population than the vaccines pose to the individual.
Also, and this really bothers me, many parents who don't vaccinate their kids are trading on the fact that the rest of us do. The risk of their kid catching one of the MMR diseases is much lower because everyone else has their shot. This of course eventually leads to a "tragedy of the Commons" situation where, as we see, those diseases become more prevalent.
No, what will happen is that there will be a spike in previously preventable diseases due to unvaccinated kids, which will eventually bring about a mutation in the pathogen which will then infect your vaccinated child, or possibly you yourself, who is no longer protected because the anti-vaccine crowd gave the disease a breeding ground and place to evolve to evade the vaccine-created immunity.
Has Jenny cured her sons supposed vaccine induced autism yet?
The media is eager as hell to hope on board whenever she opens her ignorant mouth.
Seriously, who the fuck in their right mind would take medical advice from this nutbar? And shouldn't spewing such nonsense somehow fall into the realm of practicing medice without a license?
Zebra Syndrome is immediately jumping to the rare possibility when given a piece of evidence. When you hear hoofbeats you should think "horses", not zebras.
Someone gets an ache or pain and hops on Google and suddenly they have Schistosomiasis or something else equally as absurd.
I'll simply insist that - it seems to me - that I've heard for years why light rail is a bad idea because of the great time and cost to build it.
We have a light rail "system". It SUCKS. It is amazingly time consuming compared to driving. And they won't let me take my bike aboard. Thanks public transport, but no thanks. Takes more time than driving, I can't take what I want with me, and if you look at the costs, the fares are more expensive than the gas I use for the same trip.
Yup, held responsible despite her bringing the problem to the attention of several other staff persons INCLUDING the vice principal without receiving any help or guidance.
I'd rather point out things people can do to protect themselves than worry about what should've been done. If what should've been done had been done, there wouldn't have been a problem in the first place.
The first thing she should have done should have been to have some staff person turn off the PC and not have anything to do with it since she was given no information or training about it other that "you can break it by turning it off so don't turn it off". Also, even if she knew what Firefox etc was, do you honestly think she'd have been capable of installing it (ignoring that doing so would have probably gotten herself fired as well) after she'd been mouse-trapped into endless porn popups after trying to use the only available browser to get get FF etc?
Anyhow, Win 98 is just fine, so long as you don't install crap. It doesn't have much of anything listening. So long as you don't install spyware or other crap (or use IE) you're fine. I should know. I managed on Win 98 SE for ages and I visited plenty of dangerous sites.
The only benefit to Win98 is that its so old that malware just isn't written for it anymore, but there are still quite a few things that are capable of screwing it up and the fact that its no longer supported means there is really no way of telling what other vulnerabilities are there. Just because you or I can manage something with a computer means absolutely nothing to someone who doesn't know how (seemingly) ANYTHING about computers, and frankly shouldn't be expected to. The school failed this woman bigtime and them covered for everyone else responsible.
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Here's a thought. Maybe we could start manufacturing the stuff HERE instead of the far east and have companion recycling/recovery facilities here as well, instead of shipping it BACK to the far east to be irresponsibly dealt with.
Ok, I'll bite. Why should they? Caveat Emptor. You as a parent bought something without knowing what it was. That is YOUR fault. We collectively decided that certain things were not acceptable in our marketplaces and created things like the FDA to be watchdogs for violations of those standards, but ultimately its the parent's responsibility for what a kid has, be it regarding toxicity or stupidity.
DBAN. Problem solved, unless you can recover data that's been overwritten 7 times. And if you can, run it twice.
Wow. Only 66 employees? I wonder how many are actually working on products they sell?
Why does a Utah Senator have any sort of say in what happens in New Jersey?
From my perspective, everyone's right to be an idiot ENDS when I've told them not to do XYZ 7 times and they decide to do XYZ at 4:30pm on a Friday, knowing full well that every time they do that I have to work until 3am to freakin fix it while they get to take the rest of the day off.
This is the point where being an idiot becomes justifiable homocide.
I've found a combination of liquor followed by swift and blinding violence generally works for me.
And what about Jews and Catholics?
You really should look into who is included in "Caucasian" at some point.
I think the family should also be able to file a lawsuit against the idiots that started the mess (the asshole passangers) and the Airmarshals that backed them up instead of telling them to grow the fuck up and use the grey squishy thing between their ears.
From the CBL a few months back:
News Alert - 2008/09/22 - A/V is not keeping up
It has become apparent that reliance on Anti-virus software for protection against spam bots is increasingly ineffective, and is reaching "disaster" status.
A large non-profit security organization has recently reported that only 23% of the 30,000 "unique" infections they see per day are detected by _any_ of 35 of the most popular A/V products, and percentage only reaches 50% after the infections have been in the wild for a month. And this includes well-known long standing botnets like Srizbi or Storm.
Many of our correspondants have told us that they've run a whole battery of A/V products on an infected machine that are provably infected with a known bot (by the email they emit), and not found anything.
Given the failure of A/V to help identify/eradicate infections, we can only continue to assert that the best way to prevent bot emission (and CBL detection) is to secure your networks so that ONLY mail servers can send email to the Internet.
Spam bots are out-pacing AV software by leaps and bounds.
Yeah, good luck catching rootkits with an online scanner. If you can even get to one once the malware takes over your network stack.
And is that router of yours just a Linksys NAT router or a real UTP device?
Spend a few years fighting this stuff pretty much full time and you'll see how foolish your assumptions are about both the ability of this stuff to find a way into your system, and your ability to detect it and kill it once its there.
My father did the same (as did all my uncles) without ever being in a union, he was a high school grad who did a stint in the Army before settling down to raise a family. Mom never worked, hell she doesn't even have a driver's license. As you say yourself, anecdotes prove nothing, mine or yours.
The fact is that it IS a different world. Who do you honestly know that can expect (or even WANT to) spend 35 years with the same company these days?
I don't know what the big underlaying thing is that changed it all, maybe it was when a college degree started to be seen as the new high school diploma, but back then you could DEFINATELY live the "Leave it to Beaver" life without having a union job.
Business folk need to get the fuck over themselves. When you're on the road you have a responsibility to everyone on it. Your job doesn't change that, no matter how important you think you are.
In my experience, it's generally OTHER people who think they are so fucking important that I need to take their call at any time, even if I'm driving. Often they are just full of shit, and sometimes there is an actual emergency that needs fast attention. Either way, if I don't take their call a few times they are likely going to dump us for another company that will, most private sector businesses seem to have this mindset.
Everything you put into SS is payed back to you (on average) within 2 to 3 years. Researchers interviewed retirees and asked them how long they thought it took to get everything back that they had put in, most said 20-30! years.
They were all pretty shocked when they were told the reality of the system.
Jenny McCarthy may not know what causes autism, but let's not forget that neither do doctors.
Possibly, however doctors and scientists tend to have stricter standards of proof than "making shit up" or "google searching". Read the site I linked and ask yourself why the media gives this woman a pulpit to preach from. She didn't know vaccines are made with viruses in them and thinks this is a bad thing, she has no knowledge of the subject matter. Her ignorance is so astounding it almost seems to be a form of criminal negligence to put her in front of a camera to spout off about something she obviously knows nothing about, yet has a huge following of stupid people following her.
These people are going to listen to her stupidity, not get their kids vaccinated, they will get sick with something that used to be rare or unheardof due to vaccines. That will mutate and infect ME, since my vaccine-created immunity won't be effective against a mutant strain. At that point I think I'd be justified in taking a baseball bat to any parent who would rather have their kid be a petri dish for the next black plague than get a vaccine.
Listening/reading stupidity has the same effect.
Unless some unvaccinated kid gets the mumps and it mutates, pathogens tend to do that sort of thing you know, into something that is able to bypass the immunity of those vaccinated. Then you have a potentially serious issue, especially if the new mutation has a high rate of fatality.
The issue is that allowing a pathogen, such as the mumps, to have a breeding ground by not having vaccine-induced immunity casues you to run the risk of it potentially mutating into something much more serious, possibly even potentially fatal, AND able to get around the immunity of those who were vaccinated against the original strain.
I keep hearing this, and it is really off base. If you give a pathogen a place to breed it may mutate into something that can bypass vaccince-created immunity.
So as much as you are gambling that you won't get infected because 80% of others have had the vaccine, those 80% are gambling on YOUR lack of immunity rendering their own immunity null and void if you give the pathogen a place to mutate.
The unvaccinated pose a greater danger to the general population than the vaccines pose to the individual.
Also, and this really bothers me, many parents who don't vaccinate their kids are trading on the fact that the rest of us do. The risk of their kid catching one of the MMR diseases is much lower because everyone else has their shot. This of course eventually leads to a "tragedy of the Commons" situation where, as we see, those diseases become more prevalent.
No, what will happen is that there will be a spike in previously preventable diseases due to unvaccinated kids, which will eventually bring about a mutation in the pathogen which will then infect your vaccinated child, or possibly you yourself, who is no longer protected because the anti-vaccine crowd gave the disease a breeding ground and place to evolve to evade the vaccine-created immunity.
Has Jenny cured her sons supposed vaccine induced autism yet?
The media is eager as hell to hope on board whenever she opens her ignorant mouth.
Seriously, who the fuck in their right mind would take medical advice from this nutbar? And shouldn't spewing such nonsense somehow fall into the realm of practicing medice without a license?
http://www.stopjenny.com/
Yeah this sounds like classic zebra syndrome.
Zebra Syndrome is immediately jumping to the rare possibility when given a piece of evidence. When you hear hoofbeats you should think "horses", not zebras.
Someone gets an ache or pain and hops on Google and suddenly they have Schistosomiasis or something else equally as absurd.
I'll simply insist that - it seems to me - that I've heard for years why light rail is a bad idea because of the great time and cost to build it.
We have a light rail "system". It SUCKS. It is amazingly time consuming compared to driving. And they won't let me take my bike aboard. Thanks public transport, but no thanks. Takes more time than driving, I can't take what I want with me, and if you look at the costs, the fares are more expensive than the gas I use for the same trip.
And yet, this poor teacher was held responsible.
Yup, held responsible despite her bringing the problem to the attention of several other staff persons INCLUDING the vice principal without receiving any help or guidance.
I'd rather point out things people can do to protect themselves than worry about what should've been done. If what should've been done had been done, there wouldn't have been a problem in the first place.
The first thing she should have done should have been to have some staff person turn off the PC and not have anything to do with it since she was given no information or training about it other that "you can break it by turning it off so don't turn it off". Also, even if she knew what Firefox etc was, do you honestly think she'd have been capable of installing it (ignoring that doing so would have probably gotten herself fired as well) after she'd been mouse-trapped into endless porn popups after trying to use the only available browser to get get FF etc?
Anyhow, Win 98 is just fine, so long as you don't install crap. It doesn't have much of anything listening. So long as you don't install spyware or other crap (or use IE) you're fine. I should know. I managed on Win 98 SE for ages and I visited plenty of dangerous sites.
The only benefit to Win98 is that its so old that malware just isn't written for it anymore, but there are still quite a few things that are capable of screwing it up and the fact that its no longer supported means there is really no way of telling what other vulnerabilities are there. Just because you or I can manage something with a computer means absolutely nothing to someone who doesn't know how (seemingly) ANYTHING about computers, and frankly shouldn't be expected to. The school failed this woman bigtime and them covered for everyone else responsible.